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Athene
Athene: Virgin and Mother in Greek Religion | Karl Kerényi
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The author's careful rendering of the many aspects of Athene's myth demonstrates a profound understanding of feminine intelligence both in its fierceness and its darker animal nature - especially apparent in the symbolism of owl, goat, horse and Gorgo.
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ravenlee
Mehso-so

Well, I finished this one yesterday. I‘m not sure what I read, exactly. I am definitely out of practice in scholarly reading, but even so I think this one is challenging.

Kerenyi delves into the opposing roles of Athena, that of the maiden and that of the mother, and proposes the notion that both roles serve to enforce the patriarchy. There‘s more to it, of course, but I‘ll have to read it again. And probably again.

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ravenlee

I tried to start this today while waiting for kiddo‘s STEM class, but it was crazy loud with other moms, little siblings running amok, and various other library din.

I chatted with a few other homeschool moms (new for me - socializing!), and it was mostly fun, but I have now experienced my first moment of “what church do you go to?†and “what do you use for Bible study?†and then the scandalized silence when I respond “we‘re not Christian.â€

Sace Ugh. I wish I could be more eloquent than that. I'm sorry that happened to you. 4y
ljuliel Those types of conversations get on my last nerve. It‘s no one else‘s business if you attend church, if you believe in their religion, if you‘ve been saved, if you‘re going to heaven , etc. Very irritating and uncomfortable. (edited) 4y
ravenlee Thank you, @Sace and @ljuliel . Living in the South it‘s a fact of life, unfortunately, but it seems even more problematic for homeschooling (which is, by far, a religious community). It was also compounded by the mention of several churches where I either work or have worked as a musician or music teacher. Utter confusion. 4y
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Sace @ravenlee I'm in the South too. I hear ya! 4y
ljuliel I live in the North in a small town that is at least 50% religious. Believe me, those same things go on up here. It‘s happened to me at our local gym , twice. Old men who approach me about reading the Bible, getting saved, believing...you know ? I‘ve lived here for my entire life. (61 years ) . I know where every church is. If I wanted to go, I would. People shouldn‘t force their beliefs on you. It‘s invading my space. 4y
ravenlee @ljuliel some old guy approached me at the gym, years ago, and asked if the book I was reading was Christian, and when I said no he asked if I wanted to be “cuz I‘d witness to ya!†When I taught lessons through a church music program one man insisted on meeting all the teachers before signing up his kids, and all he wanted to know was where did we go to church and did we own a bible. Nothing about music or teaching. Back off, creeps! 4y
ljuliel Agreed completely. 4y
BookNAround @ravenlee As another person living in the South, I tend to tell people we worship at the Church of St. Mattress. It‘s kind of funny to watch people work through that until they finally get it. Of course it cements my reputation as a heathen, but... 4y
Amiable @BookNAround The Church of St. Mattress--love it! 😂 Like @ljuliel I live in the North, but in New England which is very live-and-let-live. (Or more like “go-to-church-or-don't-whatever-works-for-you-just-don't-clog-up-the-drive-through-line-at-Dunkin-Donuts-on-your-way.“) I am not sure I could ever be a good fit in a place where people feel the need to proselytize. I don't need to be saved, thank you. I'm good. (edited) 4y
ravenlee I should have just said we‘re secular homeschoolers, not that it would have been much better. Around here, though, it‘s as much a social thing as real faith. My mom (who lives in Idaho) was talking to someone from here once who told her to tell me to go to her son‘s church - and my mom told her I wasn‘t of that faith, and she said it didn‘t matter but to come on down! I just want to be left alone, thanks! 😆 4y
ljuliel @Amiable I think I should move further north up in your neck of the woods. I‘d rather go get a donut 🩠and have people mind their own business. Our town has a large population of a group one rung down from Amish / Mennonite...the other churchy sorts are Holy Rollers. Not a good area for me. The last time I stepped into a church, it caught on fire 🔥. No lie. Fire trucks 🚒 everyplace. I think that‘s a sign. @BookNAround @ravenlee (edited) 4y
Amiable @ljuliel Ah, the “you don't want the church to be struck by lightning and burn down, do you?“ excuse -- brilliant! :) It's a pretty big liberal bubble, here - which can be a huge culture shock when you leave and go somewhere else in the country. My son, who is in the Marines, spent 2+ years in the panhandle of Florida near Alabama. I'm not sure he has yet recovered from it. Things he took for granted in CT were not done the same way down there. 4y
ljuliel @Amiable - I‘ll bet. I don‘t believe you could go to 2 more different areas in our country ! (edited) 4y
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