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Astoria: John Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson's Lost Pacific Empire: A Story of Wealth, Ambition, and Survival
Astoria: John Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson's Lost Pacific Empire: A Story of Wealth, Ambition, and Survival | Peter Stark
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MarkoPDX
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Pickpick

Read in 2020. What an adventure. A disastrous adventure.

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Lizwarnerpdx
Pickpick

As an Oregonian I was interested in reading this book. I learned a lot about the exploration & initial settlement of Astoria. I was surprised both to find out that John Jacob Astor never visited this part of the country & also that he didn‘t come up with the name. With a lot of suffering & failure the story is intriguing...but even more so is how this exploration eventually led to creating the route for the Oregon trail.

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Lizwarnerpdx

With as much as the author researched the indigenous people of the area, staying with them, canoeing with them, experiencing ceremonies and rituals...I wish their story featured a bit more as they had a huge impact on the explorers as well as the routes used on the expedition. Most of the explorers would‘ve starved without their help. And the contentious interactions between them & the Americans helped in changing the course of history too.

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Lizwarnerpdx

I find it interesting that the initial curiosity that led to the book came from John Day rather than the town of Astoria or from John Jacob Astor. It‘s funny how one thing will lead you to others and change your thinking.

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Lizwarnerpdx

Thomas Jefferson is merely a blip in the story...not sure why his name is part of the title. Hit the epilogue at 66% of the way through and that part was quite interesting. So much suffering by the Astorians in their attempt to create an empire on the west coast. I had no idea how much Britain was involved in the area at the time. Also shocked that Astor himself never visited the area. His efforts eventually led to the Oregon trail though.

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Lizwarnerpdx

At 60% in the book is much more interesting (and has been since maybe 40%). I like the photo inserts, but on a kindle paper white the maps are nearly illegible which is disappointing. The story is quite interesting...the challenges of travel, communication, rival business, and going to war... while at first the book was kind of a drag, now I want to sit back and read until I‘m done.

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Lizwarnerpdx
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“They were happy. These “Men of the North” well knew this weather and this paddling. Winter was coming.” Channeling Game of Thrones here...

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Lizwarnerpdx

Put together to form one cohesive story. While overall chronological, parts of the story kind of give me spoiler alerts. I‘ll read about X, then something like ‘10 days earlier‘ xyz happened leading to X. You already told me about X, so why did you ruin it. Overall so far it is interesting, but it‘s not one of those books that is hard to put down. 2/2

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Lizwarnerpdx

About 30% in to this one. I generally prefer historical fiction rather than a more documentary style of non-fiction. Being an Oregonian, and visited Astoria and the coast many times, I hadn‘t heard this story before (I did know Astoria was named after Astor). But so far I‘m not drawn in...I don‘t love any characters, I don‘t “care” about any of them yet. I realize this info is garnered from real journals from those on the adventure & put 1/2

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Lizwarnerpdx

Just starting this book, but in the first few pages the west coast is described as mostly unclaimed & available for anyone to take. Which just seems so at odds with all the native people living on those lands at the time. How did people think they just had the right to claim whatever they laid their eyes on?! I know I shouldn‘t be surprised when “that‘s how things were back then”...but human decency, c‘mon.

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PurpleTulipGirl
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I don't quite live in Astoria, but I live nearby. The last couple weeks notwithstanding, the Oregon Coast is a lovely place to live.

I have had brief encounters with a couple of famous people, but nothing beyond a photo op or walking past and getting whiplash from turning to see if I saw who I thought I saw.

Tonight is family pizza night. That's as far into the future as I can look right now!

Thanks @Sace ! @Cosmos_Moon #thankfulthursday

Cosmos_Moon_River Have a fun pizza night 🥰 happy Thursday! 4y
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Sweettartlaura
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Just shy of 4 ⭐️, this book is a really good look at the first American settlement on the West Coast - Astoria (in what is now Oregon).
It‘s a saga, taking place over land & sea, amidst the War of 1812, across the globe, with interactions with Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, & even a Russian Count, thwarting Astor‘s plans to establish a global fur trade.
Essential reading of a forgotten piece of American history.

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Sweettartlaura
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And just like today... Canada sounds wayyy better than the States 🙄😕

charl08 That sounds like a society I'd want to join, but be slightly intimidated by... 5y
Sace 😂 5y
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Sweettartlaura
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I bailed on the first pick for my Bingo/MakeMeReadIt list ... which doesn‘t make me happy, but gets me closer to my #MountTBR goal 🤷🏻‍♀️.
On to the pick by @Samplergal - hoping this one holds my attention better 🙂

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tricours
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Mehso-so

I had some difficulty focusing on this book and keeping track of people. Perhaps not the best audiobook material, but in print I suspect I would never have gotten through it at all...

BarbaraBB Hi Rebecka just checking in. Missing your posts. Hope all is well! 5y
tricours @BarbaraBB thank you, all is well! 😊 I have just REALLY fallen off the reviewing wagon! 5y
BarbaraBB Ah too bad but I‘m happy to hear you‘re okay 😘. Hope you‘ll get back on that wagon 😉 5y
tricours @BarbaraBB I hope so too! Sewing kind of took over my life (so I‘m very active on Instagram at least 😅) but I am getting through a fair amount of audiobooks so I should try to crawl back in here sometime soon! 5y
BarbaraBB I hope so and I love your sewing and that you do it with such passion 😂 5y
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EmilieGR
Mehso-so

Dry and hard to get through but interesting

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JGadz11
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Was supposed to be grading papers. Did this instead.

MicheleinPhilly I wholeheartedly approve! 🤤 6y
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JGadz11
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Livin‘ my best life. ✌🏼

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JGadz11
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I lived in Portland, OR and Vancouver, WA for 8 years and did not know any of this! And the writing is absolutely brilliant - highly recommend, even if you‘re not a fan of nonfiction. Can‘t put it down. 👍🏼

Sweettartlaura I‘ve been in the PNW for 14 years and almost all of this was new to me, too! 5y
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Tomigirl44
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Pickpick

I couldn‘t put this book down. (So much for my library ebooks due soon.) It was part of US history I knew nothing about, and it was especially meaningful since I bought it while in Oregon for the first time, which included traveling through Astoria. It‘s an adventure/wilderness/survival story, both heartbreaking and heartwarming.

Pogue I love the history of Oregon. There is an amazing podcast called Off Beat Oregon History that is just full of goodies. 6y
Tomigirl44 @Pogue thanks for the recommendation - I‘ll look for it 😊 6y
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Tomigirl44
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I‘m loving this book.

shaynarae My husband loved this book too and immediately threw it on my TBR stack! 6y
Tomigirl44 @shaynarae 🙌 It‘s been hard to put down to get other things done. 6y
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8little_paws
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Pickpick

This is nonfiction about how John Astor funded an expedition to the Pacific Northwest to establish a fur trading outpost. Men traveled by sea and over land and faced all kinds of drama on their journey. You would think a tale like this might give men pause in their relentless pursuit of capitalism, but nah. Apparently not. I feel like there wasn't much about Jefferson at all in this, which I found unfortunate.

Why I read it: #litsyatoz A

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Bookended
Pickpick

This book tells the harrowing story of hardship and loss the Astor Expedition experienced as they attempted to reach and establish a new settlement in what is today Astoria, Oregon. This story captures the wild spirit of the Pacific Northwest and the explorers who risked their lives to settle it.

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Smrloomis
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This looks interesting...

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Lea
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"Nearly two centuries ago, the story that follows was well-known to Americans."