theriseofchristianity

The Swerve: How the World Became Modern | Stephen Greenblatt

How very Christian of them. Christianity has feared women since Rome took over.
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Weaponxgirl Grrrrrrr! 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl this whole chapter (ch4) was like that. It was all very violent and aggressive. It was about how Christianity killed the prominence of classical literature (thus ushering in what is sometimes known as the dark ages). The idea that curiosity is a sin still lives for a lot of Christians. I don‘t get it. 6y

Weaponxgirl That attitude kills me! 6y

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GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl right? I can‘t even understand how any belief system could make it to prominence with the idea that knowledge and using your brain is bad. 🤬 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics I don‘t know how true this is but my brother was saying that in some areas of Christianity in America that coming out as an atheist was a big deal since it was assumed that it meant you had no moral compass? This was an insane idea as no I have morals and I‘ve thought very hard about where I stand on certain positions in this world. 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl not some places, ALL places in America. Christians in America firmly believe that it is impossible to be truly moral without Jesus. They believe that non Christians that are “good people” are so because they‘re surrounded by Christians so they have inadvertently learned morality. 🙄 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl but don‘t want to admit that their morality is due to the “saving grace of the lord.” 🙄 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics umm ok. I literally would have nothing to say to that. I think my face would say it all 6y

GingerAntics @weaponxgirl yup, that‘s America!!! It‘s among the reasons I want to leave. I swear, I was born on the wrong bloody continent. The weird part is that if you don‘t have an answer for that (because the statement is so obviously ridiculously stupid) it‘s because they‘re telling the truth and deep down you know it. 🙄 It‘s utter ridiculous tripe. 6y

GingerAntics @weaponxgirl Is there such a think as an intellectual refugee? I‘m well educated. I don‘t mind further training/education. I‘m a hard worker. I love working. I love helping others. I will be a good member of society. Who do I appeal to, here? lol (no but seriously) 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics my thing has always been that I‘m not religious but I‘m also not someone do disrespect someone who is and answering that kind of statement can get dangerously close to that territory. I‘m not going to let someone else‘s ignorance make me appear the same way. I‘m not going to go Richard Dawkins on someone because I think he is obnoxious in so many ways 6y

GingerAntics @weaponxgirl and in my mind that actually makes you more moral, more humane, more of a decent person than someone who can‘t see any good outside of his or her own beliefs. 6y

GingerAntics @weaponxgirl I would never say that to someone holding such a stringent “my view is the only view” stance for similar reasons. I‘d probably just nod and walk away. I try to stay out of conversations like that to begin with, honestly. 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics it‘s the sort of situation I would be raging about to my friends later! Talking of raging I went in a charity shop today and was obviously looking for the book section only to find that they had put them and the vinyl in the back of the shop in a section labelled man cave. Not this way to men‘s clothes, books and stuff just this way to the man cave. I was so 😒 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl wait, so only men listen to music on vinyl (a lovely experience really) and read? I... wha... wh... I don‘t know what to do with that. Is this 1719 and my smartphone is a delusion? Are you real? Am I real? WTF!!! 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl yeah it‘s definitely something you rage about later with friends. Your friends know you enough to know you‘re rage isn‘t against religion or people who are religious or people who are different from you, but against the bigotry of that specific view or that particular person. 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics the worst thing is I don‘t think they even realised what they had done! There were some cookbooks out front and then the rest were in the back and I was just like nope I don‘t think I can buy anything from you guys. 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics it was one of those charity shops that‘s trying to look like a boutique and be cute. 6y

GingerAntics @weaponxgirl I‘m all for whatever gets people to shop on those types of places. They‘re trying to raise money for important causes, so whatever works (and is legal), still I can see just thinking “nope I‘m out. Sorry.” I‘m not entirely sure I‘m sorry, though. 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics yea, and there‘s the occasional charity where I‘m out for morally objectionable things they have done (the Salvation Army and homophobia) 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl yeah, the causes may be good, but if the people supposedly helping are only helping people they “approve of” or the select, then it‘s not really helping is it? 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics that‘s what I think exactly, especially since they market themselves as kinda a blanket force for good. It‘s really sad actually as I know of some small churches that genuinely care and do great work unrelated to the Salvation Army. They run food banks and don‘t expect anything like going to service in return. They just decided that their religion meant they had to help regardless and that I‘m really for supporting. 6y

GingerAntics @Weaponxgirl oh yeah. Exactly. Whatever your religion or not, whatever your spirituality or not, I‘m all about shared humanity and I truly believe that humanity can‘t survive if we don‘t work together, care for each other, and when things happen take care of each other. 6y

Weaponxgirl @GingerAntics hell yes! 6y

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