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We Oughta Know
We Oughta Know: How Four Women Ruled the '90s and Changed Canadian Music | Andrea Warner
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monalyisha
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A deep dive into the ways in which 4 Canadian artists — Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Alanis Morissette, & Sarah McLachlan — “Ruled the 90‘s & Changed Music”, *and* the author‘s life.

This is an updated version of Warner‘s first edition, originally published in 2015. I don‘t know how the texts differ but this version makes a conscious effort to be intersectional.

An incredibly nostalgic trip down memory lane for me (an American, sadly 🫠).👇🏻

monalyisha 1/2: I don‘t think the book needed to be so long. Warner repeats herself. Her writing is strongest in the Celine Dion section, when she writes critically about “The Cult of Forever Love,” arguing that some loves (both romantic & platonic) aren‘t meant to be forever, that it‘s damaging to think of all love that way, & that a temporary love can be just as bright, vibrant, important, and formative; its transitional nature doesn‘t decrease its value. 3w
monalyisha 2/2: It also shines in the section about McLachlan, when she discusses how the artist‘s music helped her process the grief of losing her father at an early age. I greatly appreciated her alphabetized list in the appendix of other female Canadian 90‘s acts. I have a lot of listening to do… A low pick, with complaints limited mostly to style not (the very thoughtful) substance. 3w
TheKidUpstairs Ooh, love the idea of this. Celebrating 90s female Canadian artists? Yes please! Now I'm off to think of my favourites.... I sense a Spotify playlist coming soon... 3w
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monalyisha @TheKidUpstairs Please share if you end up making one! I was convinced there‘d be an official playlist to accompany the book but I couldn‘t find it upon first glance. I need to look harder. There can‘t NOT be one. 3w
CoffeeK8 This book sounds amazing and @TheKidUpstairs I too would love to hear the playlist you make! 3w
Cuilin @CoffeeK8 @TheKidUpstairs I‘d also love a playlist 🙏 oh the nostalgia of the 90‘s 2w
TheKidUpstairs @monalyisha @CoffeeK8 @Cuilin I'm on it! Will share a link when it's ready. In the meantime, this is one of my favourite female Canadian albums of the late 90s, she's pulled her music from Spotify so I won't be able to include it in the playlist, but you can enjoy it here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mTBsIDAai6wQpBsCFM0yGge196pAUeXyQ&si=m... 2w
Clare-Dragonfly @TheKidUpstairs Ooh, Sarah Harmer! I haven‘t listened to her in ages. She‘s on Bandcamp! https://sarahharmer.bandcamp.com/album/sarah-harmer-you-were-here 2w
monalyisha @TheKidUpstairs @Cuilin @CoffeeK8 I downloaded the ebook and I‘m making a playlist based on the author‘s appendix. I‘ll share when I‘m done, too! 2w
monalyisha @TheKidUpstairs @Cuilin @CoffeeK8 @Clare-Dragonfly I added everything I could find! Here‘s a playlist, 60 songs deep. 🇨🇦 https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5oGaKujKsutvBtWSeEkZrD?si=fReVVZ9kQoqCsRsAcLqL... 2w
Cuilin @monalyisha thank you 🙏😊 2w
TheKidUpstairs Iwas just going down a rabbit hole of my own, here's what I've made so far. I'm going to compare it with yours Alyisha and will continue adding to it! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7iOGuLoW3YCvDZEeFfGtzm?si=GAFq6R52TFKPNkboGnBd... @Cuilin @CoffeeK8 @Clare-Dragonfly 2w
CoffeeK8 This playlist is amazing @TheKidUpstairs @Cuilin @Clare-Dragonfly 2w
monalyisha @CoffeeK8 @TheKidUpstairs @Cuilin @Clare-Dragonfly I haven‘t made it to Megan‘s playlist yet but the biggest revelation for me from the author‘s playlist so far has been that TMBG‘s “New York City” is a cover (by Cub)! 🤯 2w
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monalyisha
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A risky move for me, a mood reader, to try to choose 10 books I‘ll definitely read by the end of the year. As Beth Orton would say (in the spirit of number 9 on my list), “can‘t pin this butterfly down.” Yet, here we are!

1. All Fours
2. The Rachel Incident
3. Wild Dark Shore
4. Rapture
5. Mina‘s Matchbox
6. Small Things Like These
7. Normal Rules Don‘t Apply: Stories
8. Lost Evangeline
9. We Oughta Know OR Pretend We‘re Dead
10. On Mysticism

monalyisha The first two books are my IRL book club selections for November & December, so I‘ll almost definitely get to those. 😉 1mo
ChaoticMissAdventures Great list!! All Fours is so decisive but I enjoyed it. I have The Rachel Incident waiting on my TBR! 1mo
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vivastory I received Wild Dark etc in my botm and am really looking forward to it 1mo
JamieArc The Keegan book is a good one to read in December. I wish I had read it for Jolabokaflod. You can read it in a day. I‘m curious what you will think of All Fours. 1mo
monalyisha @JamieArc Yes! I‘ve been waiting for the Keegan! I‘ve read two others by her and I‘ve loved them both, so I‘m eager to pick up her most popular. 🌲 1mo
monalyisha @JamieArc And I‘m nervous to find out what I think of All Fours…and even more nervous to find out what the rest of my book club will think of it because I picked it for us! 😜 1mo
JuniperWilde I wish I could read Keegan and All Fours for the first time. Both are favourites of mine. 1mo
KT1432 I‘m another big fan of Small Things. It‘s so short I‘m due for a reread. 1mo
JamieArc @monalyisha Like it or not, it‘s probably a good book club choice! 1mo
monalyisha @JamieArc At the very least, right? We‘re reading it VERY close to the time when we vote on next year‘s books. I hope there aren‘t too many of them who hate it enough to view my proposed titles for next year with suspicion. 😅 1mo
monalyisha @JuniperWilde That‘s encouraging! ✨ 1mo
BarbaraBB So many good ones among those ten books. Enjoy! 1mo
monalyisha @BarbaraBB Mina‘s Matchbox is definitely your doing! 1mo
BarbaraBB I hope you‘ll like it. I did but not as much as I expected to! 1mo
monalyisha @BarbaraBB It sounds right up my alley and, though I know they‘re very different stories, I loved The Memory Police. So, I‘m hopeful! 1mo
BarbaraBB I loved that one too and the tagged one even more. She definitely can write! 1mo
BennettBookworm Wild Dark Shore!! Yaaaasssss 1mo
TheKidUpstairs I'm very intrigued to see what you think about All Fours, it's VERY Marmite. I loved it, but many did not. And I loved The Rachel Incident ❤️ 💕 ♥️ 1mo
monalyisha @TheKidUpstairs I voted against The Rachel Incident when we were choosing our books for the year…but I was outvoted. The fact that you enjoyed it is bringing me some hope! 1mo
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rabbitprincess
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I found this an interesting exploration of Canadian music in the 1990s, feminism, and personal reflexivity. I read the 2024 edition with a foreword by Vivek Shraya.

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xicanti
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If you love music, you‘ve gotta check out this book. Warner is concerned with these four artists‘ influence on the 90s musical landscape, but she‘s even more interested in deconstructing her teenage self‘s response to them. Her deep dive into her biases, and the social cues that helped create them, inspired me to look at my own relationship to music from new angles.

Personal bonus: she‘s a by-album listener, like me. That feels rare these days.

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I basically want to quote this entire book.

BiblioLitten That‘s something to ponder upon! 👏🏼 7y
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xicanti
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Sometimes I make fancy meals and sometimes I just plunk a bunch of my favourite Japanese rice seasoning on basmati.

Then I eat it while I read engaging musical nonfiction. This book is doing it for me in a big, big way, y‘all. Warner‘s take on Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Alanis Morissette, and Sarah McLachlan has got me thinking critically about how I react to music now vs when I was a teenager.

Karisa Furikake? Yum! Just had some on a poke bowl myself. 😊 7y
xicanti @Karisa yep, furikake! It makes my tastebuds happy. 7y
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xicanti
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I stopped on top of this hill to read two more chapters of WE OUGHTA KNOW, watch the prairie dogs, and listen to some music. The last few tracks of Led Zeppelin IV started me off, followed by Taylor Swift‘s 1989.

This book is great: scholarly, personal, and highly readable, with lots of responses I can interrogate and argue with. It‘s been a while since I read nonfiction I could approach this way, and I didn‘t realize how much I missed it.

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