Love Her, Love Her Not

Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

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The essay on the semiotic brilliance of Hillary's pantsuits was itself brilliant; the essay about Hillary's days as the first lady of Arkansas was informative. Every other essay, including the one written by the anthology's editor, was disappointingly shallow, poorly written, and slapdash. As a news junkie since before Bill Clinton's era, aside from the two essays above, I found absolutely nothing here. Don't waste your time & money on this.

shawnmooney My full review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1497534517 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Darn, your few posts seemed so promising! Sad to hear those were the only real good bits! 8y

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Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

AmyS I just got this book! I'm looking forward to learning more about her. 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I remember it well, I remember thinking to myself that they were going to try and push her into the housewife box no matter what her personal accomplishments were. I was in college & the Clinton election was one of the first I could vote in, but it was also a real eye opener for me at the time... 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...as a woman too. And seeing for myself how an independent smart woman wasn't 'good enough' to be First Lady unless she could convince America she could be the nicey stay at home wifey baking cookies all day too. 8y

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I never realized it until now, and this election session again, but this is probably the first public incident where I really got feminism, and understood the fight for woman's rights was something going on and still happening....Not something that had been won in the past and was over. That ... 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ...although the I grew up believing that I could study hard, and learn and do anything I wanted. Her was a very successful educated woman being bashed because she didn't stay home as a housewife and bake cookies....and the cookie bake off thing to me always struck me as some campaign manager ... 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ..advising her to compete to help her likability. To help her look more like a housewife and 'acceptable'. 8y

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Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

suvata Not! 8y

NatalieR No way! 😳 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Excellent! Everybody's human! 8y

BookishFeminist 😂😂 I'm pretty sure if this happened to me I would need to use it too from excitement. 8y

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Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

Riveted_Reader_Melissa That's great advice! 8y

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Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

BookishFeminist So true & wish more people knew this, especially women! 8y

BookishFeminist True story: I was once criticized for not wearing heels in a courtroom by a professor & in the nicest & most professional way possible, I told her to fuck off. 🙅🏻👠🙅🏻 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I refuse to wear them too! Crazy what people will do for fashion, and because it's expected. I thought there'd be more said about it when, I think it was Cannes Film Festival made them a required dress code for women, but it seemed to blow over faster than I thought it would. 8y

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shawnmooney High heels are even more culturally necessary in Japan, and also the Japanese run in public to show subservience to customers/bosses and when they are late. The sound of high heels stomping on the sidewalk, stairs is like fingers down a chalkboard for me. But I digress. High heels oppress, period. 8y

shawnmooney @BookishFeminist @Riveted_Reader_Melissa (forgot to tag) 8y

BookishFeminist Agreed, I hear it's similar in China, too, but I can't speak on that first hand. The idea a woman has to make herself more "attractive" or taller to appear more powerful is just gross. @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I did at least hear a few women went to the film festival there w/o shoes this year 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookishFeminist Good for them. @shawnmooney Oppression, maybe/maybe not, but definitely bad for your feet and should never be required to wear. 8y

Angelala007 I'm terrified of getting bunions. 8y

BookishFeminist @Riveted_Reader_Melissa ☝🏼️☝🏼 agreed- I don't find it oppressive per se unless it's a requirement, and some social standards unfortunately push that limit. But as long as it's done of someone's own volition, it doesn't bother me a bit. 8y

shawnmooney @BookishFeminist @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Ha ha, guess I overstated things on a topic I have no personal experience with. I just found the surgery thing completely shocking, that's all. 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @shawnmooney That's ok, the surgery thing is shocking. And oppressive depends on who you ask. I tend to say yes, because women feel they need to wear them to be respected, look appropriate, whatever. But I also know that many will argue that it is their choice to wear them, so not oppressive. 8y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @shawnmooney As I get a bit older, wiser, read more, I think that a lot of the beauty standards in the west that women feel necessary are oppressive especially when they lead to foot injury, or anorexia, or any other self harming act. 8y

BookishFeminist @shawnmooney yep no big deal! The surgery is completely shocking, and agreed that it depends on who you ask. I'm Western & think it depends on where/how you grow up & what rules apply where you live 8y

quirkyreader I am small and I refuse to wear heels. To me they are a modern day version on torture. I wore them when I was younger and worked in a office. By the time I got home my body hated me. Now if I can't reach something I get a chair to stand on or ask a tall person to get it for me. 8y

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Kathrin Yeah... The good ole days. 8y

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Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

BookishFeminist Her pantsuits give me life 🙌🏼 8y

Susannah I feel the same about Elizabeth Warren's selection of black pants and shells with three-quarter sleeve jackets in a multitude of colors. If HRC chooses Elizabeth Warren as her running mate, I may attain nirvana.... Well, nirvana may have to wait for their election. 🇺🇸👩👩❤️ 8y

KateTheBookworm My Patronus is her royal blue pantsuit. 🙌 8y

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shawnmooney @BookishFeminist @Susannah @KateTheBookworm At first, I thought this essay was just a bit of fluff but actually it was anything but! Fantastic ruminations! 8y

BookishFeminist @shawnmooney I could seriously write a Ph.D. quality thesis on inherent misogyny surrounding Hillary Clinton's campaign derived solely from commentary about her pantsuits lol 🙌🏼🙌🏼 Fashion goals. 8y

BookishFeminist @KateTheBookworm LOL her bright red pantsuit is my patronus. This is relevant goals: www.thepostturtle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hillary-Clinton-Pantsuit-Rainbow.png 8y

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shawnmooney

Love Her, Love Her Not: The Hillary Paradox | Joanne Bamberger

Just starting in on this book tonight: it's for the "politics" category for the Book Riot Reading Harder challenge. And, timely! Here are the introductory paragraphs…

BookishFeminist This looks fantastic! I'm gonna have to find a copy soon. 8y

shawnmooney @BookishFeminist Great! Are you a Scribd subscriber? I am e-reading it there. 8y

BookishFeminist LOL Yup, I just grabbed it there right before you mentioned it. We think alike! 8y

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shawnmooney @bookfeminist Shall we cofound a 12 step recovery program, bibliophiles anonymous? :-) 8y

BookishFeminist @shawnmooney I think it's anything but anonymous at this point 😆 and do I have to recover? I quite like it here! 8y

KrisConstantReader Sounds like a great book! 8y

BarbaraTheBibliophage @shawnmooney @BookishFeminist Well I know for sure books have power over me (buying many, reading many) but they also change my life for the better. Addicted though I may be, I am not giving them up! 😜 8y

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