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On Killing
On Killing | Dave Grossman, Back Bay Books
The twentieth century, with its bloody world wars, revolutions, and genocides accounting for hundreds of millions dead, would seem to prove that human beings are incredibly vicious predators and that killing is as natural as eating. But Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman, a psychologist and U.S. Army Ranger, demonstrates this is not the case. The good news, according to Grossman - drawing on dozens of interviews, first-person reports, and historic studies of combat, ranging from Frederick the Great's battles in the eighteenth century through Vietnam - is that the vast majority of soldiers are loath to kill. In World War II, for instance, only 15 to 25 percent of combat infantry were willing to fire their rifles. The provocative news is that modern armies, using Pavlovian and operant conditioning, have learned how to overcome this reluctance. In Korea about 50 percent of combat infantry were willing to shoot, and in Vietnam the figure rose to over 90 percent. The bad news is that by conditioning soldiers to overcome their instinctive loathing of killing, we have drastically increased post-combat stress - witness the devastated psychological state of our Vietnam vets as compared with those from earlier wars. And the truly terrible news is that contemporary civilian society, particularly the media, replicates the army's conditioning techniques and - according to Grossman's controversial thesis - is responsible for our rising rates of murder and violence, particularly among the young. In the explosive last section of the book, he argues that high-body-count movies, television violence (both news and entertainment), and interactive point-and-shoot video games are dangerously similar to the training programs that dehumanize the enemy, desensitize soldiers to the psychological ramifications of killing, and make pulling the trigger an automatic response. About the Author: LT. COL. DAVE GROSSMAN, U.S. Army (Ret.) Director, Warrior Science Group, www.killology.com: Member, American Board for Certification in Homeland Security; Member, American College of Forensic Examiners Institute Lt. Col. Dave Grossman is an internationally recognized scholar, author, soldier, and speaker who is one of the world's foremost experts in the field of human aggression and the roots of violence and violent crime. Col. Grossman is a former West Point psychology professor, Professor of Military Science, and an Army Ranger who has combined his experiences to become the founder of a new field of scientific endeavor, which has been termed "killology." In this new field Col. Grossman has made revolutionary new contributions to our understanding of killing in war, the psychological costs of war, the root causes of the current "virus" of violent crime that is raging around the world, and the process of healing the victims of violence, in war and peace.
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My Goodwill book haul today! $13 for all of these babies! I‘m a huge DS fan (obviously) and collect all of her books. I‘ve never read The Da Vinci Code but I know it‘s wildly popular. Picked up my first Karin Slaughter, and the tagged book was too intriguing to pass up. It‘s about the psychology behind training soldiers to kill when we grow up learning that murder is wrong.

Ruthiella Nice haul! 👍 4mo
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Lest we forget the toll war takes on our soldiers: please read this New York Times Magazine article on one soldier's experience during and after war. Riveting. Heartbreaking. Necessary. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/magazine/afghanistan-soldier-ptsd-the-fighter.... (The book I tagged also deals with the same issues.)

literarymermaid Two others that do a good job on describing this problem (though it does so in terms of the Vietnam vet alongside Homer's epics) are by Jonathon Shay. It gave me better way to approach talking to my husband about PTSD and the longer term effects. I adore Marvel for that element in the MCU. I hope it helps de-stagmatize. 7y
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No all injuries are seen "As a society we seem unable to deal with moral pain or guilt. Instead it is treated as a neurosis or a pathology, 'something to escape rather than something to learn from, a disease rather than-as it may will be for the vets-an appropriate if painful response to the past.'"