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What About Men?
What About Men?: A Feminist Answers the Question | Caitlin Moran
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With her signature candor and wit, New York Times bestselling author Caitlin Moran attempts to answer society’s weirdly unasked question: What About Men? Like anyone who discusses the problems of girls and women in public, Caitlin Moran has often been confronted with the question: “But what about men?” And at first, tbh, she dgaf. Boys, and men, are fine, right? Feminism doesn’t need to worry about them. However, around the time she heard an angry young man saying he was “boycotting” International Women’ Day because “It's easier to be a woman than a man these days,” she started to wonder: are unhappy boys, and men, also making unhappy women? The statistics on male misery are grim: boys are falling behind in school, are at greater risk of depression, greater risk of suicide, and, most pertinently, are increasingly at risk from online misogynist radicalization. Will the Sixth Wave of feminism need to fix the men, if it wants to fix the women? Moran began to investigate—talking to her husband, close male friends, and her daughters' friends: bringing up very difficult and candid topics, and receiving vulnerable and honest responses. So: what about men? Why do they only go to the doctor if their partner makes them? Why do they never discuss their penises with each other—but make endless jokes about their balls? What is porn doing for young men? Is sexual strangling a good hobby for young people to have? Are men ever allowed to be sad? Are they ever allowed to lose? Have Men's Rights Activists confused “power” with “empowerment”? Are Mid-Life Crises actually quite cool? And what’s the deal with Jordan Peterson’s lobster? In this thoughtful, warm, provocative book, Moran opens a genuinely new debate about how to reboot masculinity for the twenty-first century, so that “straight white man” doesn’t automatically mean bad news—but also uses the opportunity to make a lot of jokes about testicles, and trousers. Because if men have neither learned to mine their deepest anxieties about masculinity for comedy, nor answered the question “What About Men?,” then it’s up to a busy woman to do it.
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I've been a Caitlin Moran fan for a long time, but this one didn't do it for me. I was skeptical from the start; I get frustrated with the line that women have it easier than men, which is where Moran begins, and I also think that many of men's problems - aggression, violence, emotional disconnection - result in great harm to women and shouldn't be our job to fix. I agree with Hannah Gadsby's brisk admonition to guys: "Sort your shit out." ???

TheBookHippie I agree 💯💯💯💯. Lately she and I do not agree. 1y
Andrea313 Moran is far more generous a person than I am, and in spite of the subject matter rubbing me the wrong way, her writing is so funny and personable - I laughed out loud a lot. I'll always love her voice, and I do hope that men who read this feel seen and understood. But I couldn't help but feel angry as I read. Men, systemically, do not listen to women, respect us, or allow us bodily autonomy. I am not interested in swooping in to fix their Sads. 1y
AllDebooks I couldn't agree more. I've seen some of her press coverage promoting the new book and I couldn't be less interested or more irritated. Feels like a real backstep. 1y
Andrea313 @TheBookHippie @AllDebooks Yes to both of you! I was apprehensive about reading this but pushed myself to do so, hoping to gain new perspective and come away feeling more connected and empathetic. Instead I was pissed. Sorry you don't know how to talk to your friends about deep things, dudes. Maybe work on that together, stop blaming us for your problems, and lay off on assaulting us? Thx! 1y
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I was already on the fence about this book, which I'll talk more about when I review it, but shit like this is not helping me to embrace it. Here Moran is addressing men's fears of being falsely accused of rape, and attributing those cases to nothing more than women being "crazy". Which sucks from a feminist perspective but is reprehensible from the perspective of understanding and reducing stigma again people living with mental illness. ???

Andrea313 Mental illness is NOT "any behavior that is bad or that I don't understand". Plenty of people who live without mental illness are capable of being shitty life-ruiners on their own; they don't need a diagnosis for that. And people who do live with mental illness really don't need to have public figures advocating for the general population to be wary and fearful of them, leading to further stress and isolation of an already marginalized community. 1y
Bookwomble Oh, disappointing. I haven't read any of Moran's books, but have read some of her newspaper articles and would have thought better of her. What a pity 😒 1y
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