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Kill All Normies
Kill All Normies: Online Culture Wars From 4Chan And Tumblr To Trump And The Alt-Right | Angela Nagle
5 posts | 8 read | 10 to read
Recent years have seen a revival of the heated culture wars of the 1990s, but this time its battle ground is the internet. On one side the "alt right" ranges from the once obscure neo-reactionary and white separatist movements, to geeky subcultures like 4chan, to more mainstream manifestations such as the Trump-supporting gay libertarian Milo Yiannopolous. On the other side, a culture of struggle sessions and virtue signalling lurks behind a therapeutic language of trigger warnings and safe spaces. The feminist side of the online culture wars has its equally geeky subcultures right through to its mainstream expression. Kill All Normies explores some of the cultural genealogies and past parallels of these styles and subcultures, drawing from transgressive styles of 60s libertinism and conservative movements, to make the case for a rejection of the perpetual cultural turn.
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ladylionbot
Bailedbailed

I was shocked at the closed-minded attitude in this book. The academic jargon was peppered with a role call of internet history, and yet no ideas or even explanation. I had hoped this book would be a starting point for topical and interesting discussion.

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Emilymdxn
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Panpan

Really terrible book. Some value in learning more of the history of the alt right, but her main argument seems to be that young left wing people are so awful we‘re all just as bad as the alt right and should be sorry? She brought out weirdos from weird niche tumblr areas as proof and then never seemed to notice that the alt right examples she gave involved genuinely killing people and the left wing people were just writing silly tumblr posts?

candority Just reading your description made me roll my eyes. I can‘t imagine actually reading the book! Sounds awful. 5y
Graywacke Equating crimes from different sides that belong on different scales is the new misinformation 😡 5y
batsy Ugh. 5y
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Emilymdxn
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Not a big fan so far but I never give up on books and at least it‘s short. Weird for a book about the rise of the alt right to be so inaccurate and unfair on the progressive online communities that are the opposite of the alt right, and also probably the bulk of the books intended audience.

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alisahar
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Mehso-so

Uh wow. Nagle has managed to write a book against the alt-right that will REALLY piss off a lot of the alt-right's enemies. The gist: the alt-right took on the mantle of radicalism, transgression & edginess partly reacting to toxic "Tumblr-liberal" identity politics, and contemporary cultural progressivism needs a paradigm shift if it's going to fight. Lots to debate but worth the read, especially as a basic explanation of the alt-right.

alisahar I should add one of my criticisms is that she doesn't seem to have much to say about how the left can effectively conquer the alt-right. 7y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I saw this one the other day and wasn't quite sure I wanted to read it.... 7y
alisahar @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think it's worth a read (it's also pretty short) but it feels a little hastily written and constructed, too. 7y
alisahar @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Although I should also add the descriptions of alt-right culture are graphic, disgusting and horribly disturbing so .. there's that too. 7y
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alisahar
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God this is true.