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Into the Dangerous World
Into the Dangerous World | Marina Warner
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Using the method and approach of an anthropologist, Marina Warner describes the tribal behaviour of the new savages - British adults in the late Eighties - and the declining role played by children in this new society.
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"Britain was the last developed country where beating schoolchildren was respectable. This was outlawed last year [1988] - by one vote in Parliament. Parents are now almost the last people left who can hit children without fear of penalty, as long as it's moderate and fitting punishment...the language of authority still derives from violence, mistakenly, tragically."

Bookwomble Britain is still a country in which it is legal for parents, and those adults to whom parents have delegated authority, to hit children for the purpose of 'discipline'. When child violence is sanctioned by the state, it's little wonder that violence is learnt as an acceptable way of relating to others. 2y
Leftcoastzen Not good. 2y
quietlycuriouskate It doesn't feel right to "like" this post, but I do want to acknowledge it. 2y
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Bookwomble @kathedron I'm equally liking the analysis of failed Tory policy in the '80s, and frustrated/angry that it's essentially the same policies they're still pushing. 2y
TrishB It makes me sick. 2y
Bookwomble @TrishB I've had to put it down as Mrs B is complaining about me tutting, sighing, grinding my teeth and muttering, "for fucks sake"! On a positive note, I've ordered another book by Warner on the subject of fairy tales ? 2y
TrishB That should be an easier read! 2y
Bookwomble @TrishB Hopefully! 😁 I think she brings a similar critique to her books on folklore and their place in society, so looking forward to getting it. 2y
The_Book_Ninja When I was at school we used to get “the ruler”. If you were disruptive, like I was😬, you had to hold out your hand, palm up, and my teacher would smack my fingers with a wooden ruler. 2y
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja I got the slipper on the backside from an English teacher, a wooden blackboard eraser thrown at my head by a maths teacher, and a classmate was lightly throttled by a geography teacher. The good old days, eh? 2y
The_Book_Ninja 😂Seeing as we‘re playing “who had the worst teacher”, my PE teacher in secondary school took me outside the gym when I was being stupid and got my nipple between his knuckles and twisted while saying “hurts doesn‘t it?”. Didn‘t realise until I was an adult just how odd that was 2y
Bookwomble @The_Book_Ninja That is so many ways of inappropriate! You win 😉 2y
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"This government has represented benefits as somehow shameful. The point about *universal* benefits is that they affirm the value of such social tasks as having children, rearing them, or caring for relatives; they make benefits themselves an expression of collective approval for the endeavour, not begrudged hand-outs, stigmatising the recipients as beggars and failures."

Bookwomble This short book by cultural anthropologist and mythographer Marina Warner is, perhaps, something of an historical document now, written in 1989 explicitly in the context of 10 years of Thatcher, the Thatcher government and Thatcherism (linked, but separate, entities). However, as Thatcher and her legacy loom large in Johnsonian times, it's also sadly and damningly contemporary. There's a lot of expletives flying around as I'm reading this! 🤬 2y
Readergrrl Such a great review! I will be reading this book!! 2y
Bookwomble @Readergrrl Well, I'm only on page 4, with another 60 to go, so let's see! (Though I'm feeling confident about Warner's position carrying through 🙂) 2y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa And the chapter I just read was all about Reagan, (and the Reagan Government, and Reaganism to paraphrase you 😉)… Stacking this one right now…so much mirrors in those two legacies on opposite sides of the Atlantic, and so much that are most definitely still very relevant. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Oh.. should have said… I was reading Alicia Garza‘s book The Purpose of Power and her childhood shaped by Reagan‘s tenure in politics, and how that period shaped the world we live on now and the social issues of today. 2y
Bookwomble @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yeah, Thatcher and Reagan were the evil twins of Neoliberalism, and their shadows are long. Your book sounds interesting, too. 2y
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwomble So very very long… and they seem almost impossible to get out from under sometimes. Especially now when so much of their politics seems to be coming to fruition in many respects (at least here in the US) 2y
Bookwomble @Riveted_Reader_Melissa The rise of populist authoritarian demogogues is, sadly, a global phenomenon not confined to the USA. I think, though, that the UK and US can take most of the (dis)credit for nurturing the present crop. 2y
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