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Cinfhen
Spinning | Lou Aronica
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My last #BookSpin and #DoubleSpin for 2022 ♥️Thanks so much for hosting and organizing, Sarah!!!!!
Looking forward to spinning in 2023 🎉🎉🎉🎉
My #BookSpin is for #LiteraryCrew @Librarybelle and my #DoubleSpin is an ARC #NetGalley

TheAromaofBooks Yay!!! 11h
Librarybelle Hooray!! 😁 10h
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LitsyEvents
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repost for @Librarybelle

New month, new book for the #LiteraryCrew ! Read at your own pace, with discussion on the 31st. There‘s still time to join this #buddyread …just comment on the original post:
https://www.litsy.com/web/post/2510514

I will post check ins periodically during the month. All welcome to join!

Librarybelle Thanks for reposting!! 1d
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Librarybelle
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New month, new book for the #LiteraryCrew ! Read at your own pace, with discussion on the 31st. There‘s still time to join this #buddyread …just comment below.

I will post check ins periodically during the month. All welcome to join!

Ann_Reads @Librarybelle - I think I'll be joining in. Thanks for hosting. 🙂 1d
CoverToCoverGirl It‘s a good book. I look forward to all the reviews. 1d
Librarybelle Hooray, @Ann_Reads ! I‘m glad to hear this is a good one, @CoverToCoverGirl ! 1d
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Librarybelle @PurpleyPumpkin @Sargar114 @BethM - are you able to join this month? 1d
Sargar114 @Librarybelle got a couple of holds placed at the library so I‘m gonna try! 1d
Cinfhen Waiting for my copy to arrive via #Scribd but I‘m looking forward 😁 1d
Sargar114 @Librarybelle it now popped up as my doublespin too, so I might try and find a hard copy! 18h
Librarybelle @Sargar114 Wonderful! Good luck finding a copy, or hopefully your library hold arrives sooner rather than later! 10h
KristiAhlers I love this author. Super excited for this 6h
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Bklover
Beheld | TaraShea Nesbit
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I read this with the #literarycrew, and it was fascinating. A view of the colonists ten years after they arrived written from mostly the women‘s points of view. I had a hard time putting it down! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

#literaryctew #buddyread
I also bought this from ThriftBooks so I could use sticker for #tbrtarot. (Couldn‘t get into my first choice for #tbrtarot)

Librarybelle So glad you liked this! 2d
CBee Hooray! Glad it worked for more than one thing 😊😊 2d
Bklover @CBee First time I was happy about a ThriftBooks sticker! 1d
CBee @Bklover ha! I understand that! 😂😊 1d
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Librarybelle
Beheld | TaraShea Nesbit
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Discussion questions are up for this month‘s #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead ! I could list a ton more discussion points - like the friendship between Alice and Dorothy - but I‘d be posting all day!

You can find the questions by either searching my feed, the book‘s feed, or using the above hashtags.

If you have not already done so, comment below if you would like to be included in next month‘s tag list for Kate Quinn‘s The Diamond Eye. ⬇️⬇️⬇️

Librarybelle I‘m still taking suggestions for 2023‘s selections, so if you have any thoughts, let me know! Thanks for reading this month!! 3d
Cinfhen I‘m getting ready to go to work, so I‘ll check in later today ❤️ 3d
MoonWitch94 Ohhh can‘t wait! And yes, tag me for next month! 3d
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KristiAhlers Yes tag me for next month! And I‘m super excited for this discussion! 3d
Librarybelle Awesome, @MoonWitch94 @KristiAhlers ! And jump right into the discussion whenever you have a chance! 2d
Librarybelle Sounds good, @Cinfhen ! 2d
Sargar114 Thanks @Librarybelle Another solid pick! 2d
Librarybelle So glad you liked this, @Sargar114 ! 2d
megnews I loved this one!! 2d
Librarybelle So glad you loved this, @megnews ! 1d
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Librarybelle
Beheld | TaraShea Nesbit
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8. The Author‘s Note in the back tells us about the research...to write this novel, as well as that several aspects...were fabricated. What do you think the relationship should be in a historical novel between what can be verified and what an author imagines, particularly when much of the history...has been suppressed, ignored, or cannot—due to a lack of written records...—be verified? ~from LitLovers discussion questions #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead

MoonWitch94 I like when authors “fill in the blanks” fictionally. But I hate when historical fiction authors purposely alter historical facts to fit their story. 2d
KristiAhlers I like when an author backfills but is honest about it upfront. What I don‘t like is when verified historical moments are rewritten. That does a disservice to those who lived through the experience. I felt this author was respectful and did a solid job of offering a possible situation. 2d
Sargar114 Agreed. Filling in the gaps of the facts with a story is great and can really get the reader invested in the history of what happened. But problematic when facts are changed to fit the story. I really enjoyed this authors note. 2d
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kspenmoll I always read afterwards, author‘s notes, etc. Agree with all 2d
Bklover @KristiAhlers Well said! 2d
Librarybelle Agree with everything! It‘s one thing to offer a fictional aspect around a historical moment and another thing to completely rewrite that historical moment. When that happens, it becomes alternative history, which falls under the sci-fi/fantasy category, believe it or not! @MoonWitch94 @KristiAhlers @Sargar114 @kspenmoll @Bklover 2d
megnews I agree with all of the above. With HF being my fav genre, I appreciate sticking to true history while creating fiction in what characters say and do. I appreciate an author‘s note at beginning or end letting me know where they stuck to fact and where fiction came in. 2d
Jerdencon Agree with all of this! 17h
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Librarybelle
Beheld | TaraShea Nesbit
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7. Prior to reading the book, what did you know about the interactions between the puritans and the indigenous peoples...particularly the members of the Wampanoag Nation? Was there anything that surprised you upon? ~from LitLovers discussion questions #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead

Note: I highly recommend This Land is Their Land by David J Silverman - academic in tone, but a solid look at true relations between puritans and the indigenous peoples.

MoonWitch94 I knew that the romanticized version of their relationship, and knew that the colonists were definitely horrible. But it was interesting to hear about more specifics. And it just made me more mad. 2d
KristiAhlers I have a degree in history so much of this I already knew. And of course history is just a collection of stories written by imperfect humans but when it makes you look bad you romanticize it to take the sting away. Unfortunately there is no way we can take the stink and disgusting manner in which we treated those human beings away. 2d
Sargar114 I don‘t really know much other than my skepticism about what was taught in school. So I‘m that sense I really found this book quite interesting. 2d
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kspenmoll I had read a book a few years ago, Prospero‘s America which in parts covered King Philip‘s War & the Pequot War & English attitudes towards America‘s indigenous peoples. Also Excepts from Jill Lepore‘s These Truths,-But I feel like I should know more beyond New England. 2d
Bklover I wish I could remember where I read it but I read that the indigenous people basically kept the colonists alive. They weren‘t prepared and the colonists had not expected to have to work so hard. 2d
Librarybelle I have a degree in history too, @KristiAhlers , and it took quite awhile in my studies to find out the truth of what happened. I‘m glad the full perspective is finally being shown…what‘s the saying, that the “victors write the history…?” @MoonWitch94 @Sargar114 @kspenmoll @Bklover 2d
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6. Although the murder in the colony is a first, death is very common...especially the death of infants and children. Religion—Anglican or puritan—is also important to their lives, and there is much discussion of God‘s tests, signs, and punishments. How do grief and faith shape these people? Do you see differences in the characters‘ personal relationships to God and religion? ~from LitLovers discussion questions #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead

MoonWitch94 The idea of a tragic death or the Native tribes getting ill from the colonists is “God‘s Will” is nauseating. 😳🤯 2d
KristiAhlers @MoonWitch94 sadly that was the attitude. They were seen as less than. Even after they go to the effort of taking on the white man‘s religion. 2d
KristiAhlers In many ways they had to give a reason for things just not going right so it had to be Gods will. Never they had over stepped or this was punishment for being overly arrogant or grasping. I mean historically speaking they left the Netherlands because many found it wrong when the Brit‘s began taking on Dutch attributes. They had to be saved. So take a perilous journey seemed to be the answer. 2d
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Sargar114 It seems “Gods Will” = things we can‘t explain. Hit was terribly upsetting how common death was (especially with the children). 2d
MoonWitch94 @KristiAhlers I know. I think it‘s one thing to know that is how they felt, and it‘s another to read it play out in a story/history. Every culture has their own version of that, but it‘s just awful. And especially terrible given that many Indigenous people gave up their culture for the white man‘s religion—and it got them no where, like you said. 2d
kspenmoll Yes, @MoonWitch94 ! It was lucky if a child lived… 2d
Bklover It appears that they just made every situation they found themselves in conform to their religion, rather than being guided by that religion. 2d
Librarybelle I like that thought, @Bklover ! And, I completely agree, @MoonWitch94 . Just thinking of the mortality rates during that time…it‘s awful and sad. @KristiAhlers @Sargar114 @kspenmoll 2d
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Librarybelle
Beheld | TaraShea Nesbit
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5. The conflict that leads to disaster in the novel is over a parcel of land. What is the significance of land for the colonists? What does it represent specifically for John Billington? ~from LitLovers discussion questions #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead

MoonWitch94 Land is the whole reason many people came to the colonies; they were promised land & freedom in exchange for services. But the Puritans are doing to others what they claimed England did to them. It was frustrating to read. 2d
KristiAhlers Land equated to wealth in some case land rich as it were. That family was so determined to step above their situation. I actually felt bad for them, that they struggled and were seemingly treated ill due to perception. However they didn‘t seem to go far in trying to blend either. 2d
Sargar114 Agreed. I also think that particular land was for Billington‘s son who died and it had added significance. 2d
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kspenmoll Land was everything to the Separatists- what was promised to them- representing a new start in life, a chance to move above their station in Europe- it represented freedom, esp to someone like Billington because he came over as an indentured servant. 2d
Bklover Billington was a recently released indentured servant. As such I imagine he‘d never owned anything of his own. I think this greatly affected his view of his ownership of land as well as his treatment by the other colonists, who looked down on him because of his status. 2d
Librarybelle I agree! Land was everything. Honestly, I feel bad for the Billington had over the land - no sympathy for him when it comes to what he ultimately did, but he did everything he was tasked to do to get the land, and still the Puritans said no. @MoonWitch94 @KristiAhlers @Sargar114 @kspenmoll @Bklover 2d
megnews I was angry they cheated him. 2d
Sargar114 @Librarybelle @megnews @kspenmoll I agree it was terrible how the Puritans treated the Billingtons (including Eleanor after his death) but no reason to kill someone especially someone who had anything to do with their strife. 1d
Jerdencon That was their whole reason for leaving their lives behind to find independence… so I can see the fight. I can also see how billington finally snapped from the years of abuse. 17h
Deblovestoread This is where the book lost me a bit. I was angry he was being cheated but when he snapped he took it out on someone who was a pawn being played rather than on the cheater. I struggle reconciling the man I think Billington was with this action. 16h
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4. Throughout the book, much goes unspoken about Dorothy‘s death. How is our understanding of her death complicated through the course of the novel? How do you make sense of it in the end? ~from LitLovers discussion questions #LiteraryCrew #BuddyRead

KristiAhlers I think it was a weak attempt add mystery maybe? Especially given the fact the Governor married his wife‘s best friend and there seemed to be a drastic difference when it came to those relationships. 2d
Sargar114 Agree @KristiAhlers it was still a bit vague. It seems like it was an accident, but may have been prevented and wasn‘t because she was depressed and nobody really acknowledged that at the time. 2d
kspenmoll I am not sure how Dorothy‘s death fits in, except surely she was depressed which was not recognized then - she saw it as a sign that she was not chosen by God, or could not be hood enough in her God‘ eyes. ??? 2d
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Bklover I thought it was strange how she “fell overboard “ and drowned while the shop was docked. Also found it interesting that Alice had her eyes on William before they even left England. I sort of got the feeling that it was suicide. 2d
Librarybelle I thought it was suicide too, @Bklover . Maybe the point was to show the women‘s lack of control in the colony??? It was a weaker sub-mystery in the overall mystery, in my opinion. And yes…Alice‘s eyes on William before everything happened was a bit jarring and suspicious. @KristiAhlers @Sargar114 @kspenmoll 2d
megnews Like @Bklover and @Librarybelle I interpreted it as suicide. 2d
Jerdencon Like all of you - I assumed suicide - at least that was how the author made it seem. 17h
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