The Promise | Litsy

@BarbaraJean I want to read The Promise from your list (and The Chosen, the book that precedes it)…but I‘m also hyper-conscious of the fact that I need to increase my awareness about our current political reality & the history that‘s gotten us here. It feels daunting…and it feels important.

A friend recommended some resources (which I‘ll link to in the comments). If anyone has additional (or contrary) suggestions or advice, please let me know.💞

monalyisha Overview: https://youtu.be/kI_spMxp6t8?si=eh_VjTndfIfxtwJ_ 1y

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monalyisha Book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77920745-a-day-in-the-life-of-abed-salama 1y

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Sapphire I love Chaim Potok. He is one of my all time favorite authors and I have read everything he wrote. He gives a portrayal of observant Judaism of his time (and issues of identity converging with modernity). I am not sure how much it is a history of the nation-state of Israel. 1y

monalyisha @Sapphire I don‘t know that I expect(ed) it to be. It just kind of feels wrong for me to pay attention to the fiction and not to the world, you know? I‘m probably overthinking it. I tend to do that. 😉 But whatever leads me into pursuing more knowledge and awareness can‘t be bad, right? Maybe I‘ll just make these twin commitments adjacent to one another but not consider them inextricably linked, or make one a prerequisite of the other. 1y

Sapphire @monalyisha I totally get that. Not unbiased, but check out Bill Maher on YouTube for his recent statement about the current war. While it‘s not about Israel per se, Mary Doris Russell‘s “Dreamers of the Day” is an amazing tale of how the modern Middle East was drawn by people who had little to no knowledge of the region and its people. The author was an anthropologist before becoming a writer and commits to research I highly recommend it. 1y

monalyisha The book sounds great! Adding it now. 💓 (Will look into the statement, too.) 1y

BarbaraJean I hear you on this. This topic is so charged and so complicated. I‘m going to check out the resources you posted—I haven‘t had the emotional bandwidth to engage with this more deeply, but I know I need to. Also, I echo @Sapphire re: Potok in general, and this book particularly—it examines Judaism much more closely, in a specific place and time (New York City post-WWII), rather than looking at broader historical context. But I very much ⤵️ (edited) 1y

BarbaraJean Cont‘d) …understand the desire to broaden the focus (and the tendency to overthink!). I‘m definitely interested in your adjacent project. For what it‘s worth, I read the tagged book YEARS ago, but it gave me a much more complex perspective on modern Palestine/Israel than I had previously considered. Other recs: I recently added Yehuda Amichai‘s poetry to my TBR, and would also recommend Naomi Shihab Nye, a contemporary Palestinian American poet.

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monalyisha @BarbaraJean OoOo. I may consider the Naomi Shihab Nye an official #AuldLangSpine recommendation. I‘ve loved every poem of hers I‘ve ever stumbled across (especially Valentine for Ernest Mann). 🖤🤍 1y

monalyisha @BarbaraJean Also, should I read The Chosen first, do you think? Would my reading experience be enriched? Or should I just head right into The Promise? 1y

BarbaraJean Oh, definitely put Naomi Shihab Nye in the mix! I love her so much. My favorite is Red Suitcase (which has Valentine for Ernest Mann as well as another favorite, Shoulders). More recent/related to current events is the tagged, which I'd also highly recommend! With The Chosen/The Promise, they both work well as standalones. The Chosen gives you the main characters' growing-up years, but I don't think The Promise suffers without that context.

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BarbaraJean My caveat is that it's been over 10 years since I read The Chosen, so my own memory of it is a bit... faded. The ideas in The Promise were SO fascinating, though, that I wanted to go back and re-read them both--so take that for what it's worth! 14mo

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BarbaraJean

The Promise | Chaim Potok

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The Promise is a sequel to Potok‘s The Chosen, and it‘s just as thought-provoking & reflective. It follows Reuven Malter, a young Orthodox Jew in post-WWII NYC, during his time in seminary, as he struggles to define his faith in contrast to more conservative and more liberal sects within his community. I was fascinated by parallels to contemporary debates between fundamentalist/evangelical Christians & more progressive versions of Christianity.⤵️

BarbaraJean There‘s another thread to the plot that I was conflicted about—Reuven is caught up in helping a troubled boy, the son of a progressive Jewish scholar. The descriptions of and theory behind the treatment this boy receives feels very dated (granted, this was written in the 60s), and that whole thread felt a bit overwrought. But that aside, the ideas this explores are fascinating. I‘m wanting to go back and re-read The Chosen & then read this again! 2y

BarbaraJean #SeriesLove2023 prompted me to finally read this sequel, and I‘m using it for #1969 in the #192025 challenge. @TheSpineView @Andrew65 @Librarybelle (edited) 2y

MommyWantsToReadHerBook It makes me happy that my good friend is reading these books that I love so much and have read so many times! I always find the parallels with conservative Christians fascinating. 2y

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TheSpineView Great job!😊🌞📖 2y

TheLudicReader I remember reading The Chosen as a kid…and seeing the movie with Robby Benson, with whom I was madly in love for most of my teenage years. (edited) 2y

BarbaraJean @MommyWantsToReadHerBook 💜 💜 I think Art of Soul read The Chosen right after I left; I remember reading it on my own and wishing I could join you all to discuss it!! @TheLudicReader I didn't know there was a movie! I will have to track that down! 2y

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The Promise | Chaim Potok

“…often I would read as I walked—and one day I bumped heavily into a sycamore and bruised my knee. But the book I was reading remained undamaged and I walked more carefully from then on, but continued reading. I lived in a world two thousand years in the past, in a time when sages had been remarkably unafraid of new ideas…”

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BarbaraJean

The Promise | Chaim Potok

Well, my goal for #SeriesLove2023 was to finish at least one series book per month (not counting #LittleHouse). I‘ve done that, except I didn‘t mean to start 3 new series! 🤦🏻‍♀️

I caught up on Murderbot & read the new Wayward Children, read two sequels, & have one more sequel in progress (tagged). But I want to focus on in-progress series for the rest of the year: Chronicles of St. Mary‘s and the Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries are top of the list.

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Andrew65 Brilliant 👏👏👏 That is what happens, we start other series! 2y

Karisimo I love Murderbot too! 2y

TheSpineView Fantastic! I always have multiple series going at once. 2y

BarbaraJean @Karisimo When I saw Murderbot on your Auld Lang Spine list, I knew it would be a good list! 😁 2y

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BarbaraJean

The Promise | Chaim Potok

“How is one to react to the discoveries of modern Biblical scholarship? How might one not believe literally in the Bible and still remain a traditional Jew? Are total belief or total abandonment the only available choices, or is it possible to reinterpret ancient beliefs in a way that will make them relevant to the modern world and at the same time not cause one to abandon the tradition?”

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JLaurenceCohen

The Promise | Chaim Potok

The Promise is the sequel to The Chosen. It's fun to see what the now grown up Reuven and Danny are doing, but the story isn't quite as good as the first one.

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The Promise | Chaim Potok

Tucking into a new book today.

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