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HOW TO THINK LIKE A WOMAN
HOW TO THINK LIKE A WOMAN: Four Women Philosophers who Taught Me how to Live a Life of the Mind | REGAN. PENALUNA
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Part philosophy. Part biography. Part autobiography. This definitely got me thinking.
#HowToThinkLikeAWoman #ReganPenaluna #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety

TheBookHippie I loved it. 3mo
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TheBookHippie Everytime I‘m out at night or alone or in situations that I could be in danger. Men never think this way ..EVER. Anytime you give an opinion, are in places of authority you have to be aware of your sex. Absolutely ridiculous. 3mo
kspenmoll A month late but I totally agree with @TheBookHippie . Because of this book, I see myself in the world- my responses, behavior, actions, through a different lens. 2mo
TheBookHippie @kspenmoll SO DO I!!! 2mo
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TheBookHippie Eleanor Roosevelt, Nadya Tolokonnikova, Frida Kahlo, Emily Dickinson, Katharine Hepburn…many more but my brain is fogged 😵‍💫😅😂😂🤪 3mo
kspenmoll My mom, my Aunt Helen, a teacher who mentored me in my professional growth, Megan Rapinoe, Abigail Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt, Rosa Parks- like @TheBookHippie I am sure there are more. 2mo
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kspenmoll Me😀 3mo
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TheBookHippie No. It‘s both and or oxymoron in my opinion. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie that makes sense to me 3mo
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TheBookHippie Autonomy over our lives and bodies. And to be free from harm from men. In other words 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 I can‘t see it happening but I‘d like to be closer to it. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie oh thank God! I thought I was the only one who thought it pretty much was never going to happen. At least not here in the states. 3mo
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TheBookHippie OMG YAAAAS SAME OLD TROUPES!!! 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie right? I‘m like, when was this written? That could have been worn yesterday about Kamala Harris. 3mo
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TheBookHippie Yes. I‘ve had to survive. So lesser of the evils. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie sadly, I feel like “lesser of evils” or “best out of all the bad options” is a staple in women‘s lives in ways they aren‘t in men‘s? 3mo
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics every woman I know. 3mo
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TheBookHippie Yes. Things don‘t even occur to them. However I‘ve know very selfish women. Can‘t say I know selfless men 😅 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie right? I feel like anyone can be selfish, but men tend to be more prone to it, but also blind to how they are being selfish because it‘s “allowed” or “okay.” 🙄 I also believe anyone can be selfless, but I think it comes more naturally to women, as we are expected to be such from a very young age. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I remember a time when I was 8 or 9 years old. My cousin (who was a year older than me) had his glasses in his pocket (no case, just the glasses). We were all wrestling and his glasses got damaged. My mother would not stop yelling at me and blaming me, no matter how much my aunt said this was on him because he knew better than to have them in his pocket like that and he was older than me. 3mo
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics exactly!!! That‘s it in a nutshell!!! Pun intended!! 3mo
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TheBookHippie As an altruistic hippie I feel I live it without even thinking it at this point in my life. It puzzles many 😅🤣 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie the total lack of benevolence in so many people‘s lives is what puzzles me. There is a big difference between being selfish and selfless. Just being a decent human being is apparently extreme benevolence these days. I don‘t get it. 3mo
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics it‘s seen as stupid or less than which blows my mind. 3mo
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Last week‘s chapter was so short, this is the only question I could think of for it… so I figured I would just add it to this week‘s posts.
#HowToThinkLikeAWoman #ReganPenaluna #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
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TheBookHippie HA. No. However I‘ve been in trouble often and hated frequently. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie you and me both! I don‘t defer to people because of gender. Legitimate authority, maybe. Fake authority, absolutely not. 3mo
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I promise I haven‘t forgotten. We had family in this weekend, and I didn‘t realise I hadn‘t come up with any discussion questions when I accidentally listened to this week‘s chapter last week, so I need to go back and do that still. How is everyone doing with the book so far?
#HowToThinkLikeAWoman #ReganPenaluna #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety

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GingerAntics I feel like it went by very quickly and there could have been more. Of course, I also pause to wonder what the sources available on these women are. There may not be that many, and therefore this *could* in theory be the best she could do or a valiant attempt. I‘m still juggling those two opposing thoughts. 4mo
TheBookHippie I think there are many we‘ve no idea about! Matriarch society was a thing but we seem to not have its history.. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I wonder if part of that is because matriarchies don‘t have a need to toot their own horns the way patriarchy does, and outsiders would have been/are patriarchies and just want to tear down the entire concept. 3mo
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TheBookHippie Hahahaha nooooo 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 😂🤣😂 3mo
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TheBookHippie Yes. The hatred of women seems to be at an all time high. 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I feel like I even had female teachers in my day that tried to tamp down the dreams of female students. In fact, I think I‘ve worked for some women like that. 3mo
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GingerAntics I fear that not much has changed, really. This may be different in other countries, but here in America, I fear we are headed backwards right back into the times in this book. 4mo
kspenmoll I agree- but it is an assumption on my part. My niece is a tenured professor in Bio at Williams- I would like to ask her how she feels. 4mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll oooooh, can‘t wait to hear what she has to say. I know that 99% of people (men and women) when they hear that I‘m a historian, assume I study women‘s history because really, what else could I possibly be interested in? 🤪🙄 4mo
TheBookHippie I think they aren‘t taken seriously 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 3mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie often times at all, definitely never as seriously as the men are taken… even if they are spouting total rubbish. 3mo
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TheBookHippie Probably sooner BUT MAN 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 4mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie it‘s always the men screwing stuff up. 4mo
kspenmoll Agree with @TheBookHippie Way before Kant. 4mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie totally agree. I think the men pointing the finger at Kant are just quietly defending their own preferred philosophers and making ridiculous claims that they were somehow better to women. 4mo
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I think so too!!! 4mo
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“…that to be a self is to be profoundly connected to others, and to be free is to aid in the freedom of others.”

Le Fini.

TheBookHippie Amen. 4mo
CBee I love this ♥️♥️♥️ 4mo
kspenmoll @TheBookHippie Thoughts of how you strive to live your life. 💙 4mo
dabbe #broughttomyknees 🩶🖤🩶 4mo
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GingerAntics I love the little Eureka moments of this book! 4mo
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From “Bedtime Stories.” Hildegard of Bingen fascinates me.
I have approximately 50 more pages left to read. It is a slow read, as there are so many philosophers to explore. #HildegardofBingen #adventureinphilosphy #HowtoThinkLikeaWoman #ReganPenaluna

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The last 6 months have been a WILD ride to say the least. Now that a large amount of the wildness has left my life, I look forward to actually getting to engage in our wonderful conversations again and taking better care of myself… which obviously means way more time with books!
#Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
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The last 6 months have been a WILD ride to say the least. Now that a large amount of the wildness has left my life, I look forward to actually getting to engage in our wonderful conversations again and taking better care of myself… which obviously means way more time with books!
#Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
@TheBookHippie @ravenlee @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @AlaSkaat @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp

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TheBookHippie I like it. It‘s dense. I‘m learning. I need to look up a ton!! 4mo
kspenmoll I really have learned a ton! 4mo
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TheBookHippie Yes. And catastrophic 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 and yes I‘d make a different decision… I think. But would I be here is the issue. (edited) 4mo
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TheBookHippie Have to be the survivor is that hero?! 😅 4mo
kspenmoll I think I was a hero in my own story, then HS & boyfriend - I let myself be a sidekick because I knew no other way- was not conscious of that. Mid-20s single so I came into my own but slowly- after a car accident in my 30‘s that took me 5 yrs to recover from( still go to PT) I really become myself/story. 4mo
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kspenmoll Yup. In 2021 our new English curriculum director took away our grammar program- direct instruction with workbooks, then application in sentences, paragraphs, essays. It‘s kind of like the Lucy Calkins approach-they will learn grammar by osmosis. We get 9th graders that are not clear about nouns. We have added it to vocabulary etc. craziness 4mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll that makes exactly zero sense! I had college freshmen who didn‘t know what a contraction was, so I know the feeling. When did it become cool to actively choose to fail our children? 4mo
TheBookHippie @kspenmoll the curriculum changes have been horrific to the learning of grammar. Horrific. Women have to be better spoken, they have to be perfect to even come close to competing with men for jobs in certain fields I feel. And to be taken seriously maybe… 🤪 4mo
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kspenmoll I think it takes strength to not think of others first as we are conditioned to. Maybe its better with this generation. 4mo
TheBookHippie @kspenmoll let‘s hope. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 4mo
TheBookHippie I think it depends how you‘ve been conditioned to be … unfortunately society paints women in a certain light as well. 4mo
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TheBookHippie Ha single women no children live longer yes?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it depends on the relationship but there‘s no way out of giving self at a price even in the best situation. Especially for women. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 4mo
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TheBookHippie The “othering” you don‘t matter or you can‘t sit with us mentality is 😵‍💫. You have to live in community and care for people. It‘s the only way. I‘m alone in this I realise. 4mo
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TheBookHippie I wish. It is set up for men. Especially the medical world. Menopause hasn‘t even been studied!!! Or most women‘s diseases. It is one size fits all which 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫🤣. 4mo
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kspenmoll I think men think that is what they are doing, but they are not thank you very much. Just such thinking is oppressive for women. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I love this take. They just don‘t get that what they‘re claiming isn‘t actually what‘s happening. They genuinely have no clue they are doing it. They sit here and say “yeah, I‘m a good guy. I support women,” but I‘m going to need them to show their work on that one. 5mo
TheBookHippie @kspenmoll I think you‘re right! This is the correct framing. 4mo
TheBookHippie So many so insecure and hateful. Always astounds me. 4mo
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“… she [Wollstonecraft]was also a philosopher.Godwin could have called her a female Rousseau,because Rousseau was her favorite thinker and because,like him she wrote novels, autobiographical fiction,and philosophical works.But this is not how Godwin, a self-described philosopher who also wrote novels,thought of her, and it is not how she is remembered today.Her work is read, but mostly in English studies and women‘s studies.Rarely in philosophy.”

kspenmoll Quote is from tagged book.William Godwin, philosopher & author, was Wollstonecraft‘s partner & father of Mary Shelley of Frankenstein fame.Pictured are a few of the books that were written by or about women that my son read(I also read some of the pictured) in his Philosophy classes at UConn. (edited) 5mo
GingerAntics Isn‘t it sad 5mo
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I have officially caught up. I have the discussions for this past week‘s chapter, I just ran out of time to post at lunch, so I will get those posted tonight.
How is everyone else doing?
#HowToThinkLikeAWoman #ReganPenaluna #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
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kspenmoll I am on my way to catching up. This book is intense! 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll it‘s a lot. Some of the chapters are more biography and others are really dense philosophy. 5mo
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kspenmoll The debate is interesting but I am on the love side. We need one another to be truly human. I think to be enlightened we love & people. (edited) 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll totally agree. I feel like people who cut themselves off from others literally stunt the growth of their minds. 5mo
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kspenmoll I was very intuitive as a kid & could read rooms & people. My mom was freaked my sone of my observations & told me I could not be right, etc. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll why do mother‘s do that?! I swear, mine does that all the time. This woman would show up to my dissertation defence and tell me half way through I didn‘t know what I was talking about, given the opportunity. She was reading this recipe to me a few years back and said “cut in quarters - that means cut it into four pieces.” When I called her on it, she legit said “I didn‘t know if you knew or not.” Yes, I passed 2nd grade, thanks. 5mo
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kspenmoll In college I was definitely beaten back but I did not name it at the time.I just felt so wrong intuitively where I was,but could not find any initiative to change my circumstances.In retrospect, I think i was depressed. I was the 2nd class in an all male Catholic college whose many teachers & make colleagues made it abundantly clear women were not wanted. My 1st semester I called the school clinic & asked to see someone for meds for a yeast 🔽 (edited) 5mo
kspenmoll 🔼 infection (on antibiotics)& I got a call from the Dean‘s office- Intrusive-the inference I got was they thought I was pregnant - my dad was an MD so I called him & got meds mailed to me- so many other stories-being followed by a drunk guy yelling “c..t”. My close friends all transferred by 2nd semester or left. It was my father‘s college & he was proud I was there & I could not talk to him about all this… 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll holy crap! What the hell? This is one of those things that makes me think “tell me again how you‘re the smarter gender.” 🙄 They genuinely have no clue beyond themselves. We‘re still trying to convince these dudes that women aren‘t just smaller men. 5mo
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This quote REALLY got me. America was built on individualism and every man for themselves, with women entirely excluded. If this country wants to call itself a Christian nation, it needs to start there. Either you are a Christian nation and this should be the standard practice, or you‘re all about individualism and everyone for themselves which is the true antithesis of Christianity, even before Rome came and corrupted it.

kspenmoll Agree. We should not be a nation of any religion but obviously in the last few decades Christianity has taken over our government. It is a hypocritical shield for so much greed, evil in my mind, for exclusion of any one with a different philosophy, religion, way of life, world view. (edited) 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll oh my gods yes! From a historical standpoint it‘s been much longer than a few decades, but this is definitely the result either way. They have certainly gotten more extreme and angry in the last few decades for sure. 5mo
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This was something I really struggled with when I was in college and grad school. To look at the world, to look at history, to look at humanity, especially to be a historian as a female is to see where men wax poetic ad nauseam about the dignity of man, but never apply that to women. Sadly, it feels like this is still happening. I don‘t want to be treated better than you because I am not. I simply want to be treated as an equal, because I am.

kspenmoll Some of this book is sad in that such attitudes about women still exist- they are familiar. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I totally had that thought! I‘m sitting here thinking not much has changed. How are we still combatting this bull?! 5mo
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Sorry guys! I totally dropped the ball this week. It‘s been a crazy couple of weeks. I‘ll get the questions up sometime tonight or tomorrow.
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TheBookHippie I‘m behind I‘ve had a lot of appointments and doctoring 😵‍💫🤣😅😝 5mo
kspenmoll No need to apologize. You have mentioned life is nutty for you lately. I just caught up myself. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll it‘s gotten more and less nutty in the last few days. It‘s been a real trip. 5mo
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GingerAntics @TheBookHippie girl, I feel that. I feel like I‘m at the doctor‘s office weekly, even daily at times. 5mo
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics hope to catch up this week! 5mo
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie you got this! This week‘s chapter was mostly biographical, so it wasn‘t as dense as other chapters. 5mo
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Sculptor Gian Lorenzo Bernini created major controversy with his rendition of the Ecstasy of Saint Teresa, based on her own autobiography, The Autobiography of Saint Teresa of Avila.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstasy_of_Saint_Teresa

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Almost a complete page-now I am going down the rabbit hole so to speak regarding Theresa of Avila.
https://www.stmatthewscathedral.org/faith/mystical-word/2023/10/15/mysticism-st-...
Regan converses with her “demon of doubt”because she failed 1 day of a 3 day ordeal of questioning by professors,a step required to pass before be allowed to research her dissertation.
She is an “imposter”, an interloper in this philosophical world.

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kspenmoll I do not think public schools provide that- too many constraints from Boards of Ed, towns, states, etc. A rigorous education would mean a derp study of classics, languages, science, etc. That might be what college is for, & why colleges have requirements to meet before one graduates. 5mo
kspenmoll Let us know how you are. Sending love & hope to you.💛❤️💛 (edited) 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I‘ve had this thought before. Public schools and schools in general are working off a model designed to make good factory workers. Perhaps one has to go to college to get a real education, which is disheartening seeing how expensive it is. 5mo
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kspenmoll To me our senses make our own individual reality. So maybe truth is subjective, depending on one‘s senses & experience in the world. It‘s confusing to me because then is there truth? Truth beyond each one‘s individual truth? How do we define / discover truth? 🤯🥺🤪 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll and thus we have run into the exact mind bending question that you can take a semester long course or more exploring… only to come out the other end, and when asked all you‘ve got is “dunno.” 🤷🏼‍♀️ 5mo
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GingerAntics I have an opinion on this one, that even uses their own theology, but I‘ll keep it to myself for now. 5mo
kspenmoll @GingerAntics Please tell! I have yo contemplate this. 5mo
kspenmoll I think its an interaction between both the world & people. We hurt each other. If by the world is meant nature, then people hurt the earth. If the world is a political one, we hurt each other with decisiveness & and inability to find common ground that dies exist. I want to reread this section to see if I am missing something. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll I can‘t remember now. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I want to say this question has some typos in it. 5mo
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Am I the only one freaked out by this. “Oh, it looks like a saint! We like the saint but not the baby! Look, the mother already screwed it up!” 🙄 I swear.
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kspenmoll This was an astonishing part- so from that he decides woman/mothers are responsible for creating “monsters” due to their original sin & sinful character. Horrible dated message for people with disabilities. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll oh yeah! I feel like this poor kid probably got off easy by not having to live. Then again, babies frequently look like old men, so it seems stupid to be surprised that a baby looks like an old man. It‘s like being surprised by a baby being born bald. 5mo
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Sorry guys, it‘s been a crazy week here. My whole world got flipped upside down, then Litsy wouldn‘t open for me yesterday afternoon.
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kspenmoll Are you doing alright? ❤️ 5mo
DaveGreen7777 Hope everything is okay now! 5mo
kspenmoll To answer the question, I do not think Christianity puts character at the center of its teaching, but rather rules & regulations & sin is in the forefront. Character seems minor to me in my aged old experience. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll oh definitely! I feel like christianity is far more concerned with appearance and theology as opposed to actually having a good character. Sometimes, it feels like they are straight up against having a good character. They expect “good christians” to be just like them, and they have crap characters and low morals. Good character is totally other. 5mo
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John Locke introduced Masham to Astell‘s & Norris‘s philosophical works.She disagreed with some of their thinking,writing in response,”A Discourse Concerning the Love of God.”She took umbrage at their endorsement of Malebranche,who‘s beliefs that a mother was cursed-her imagination could result in a baby‘s physical distortions,but more importantly,that the transmission of original sin, thus human evil was the mother‘s fault(110).

Suet624 I listened to the first half of this and then the library pulled it back. I thought it was fascinating, and forgot to go back to it. 5mo
kspenmoll @Suet624 It is fascinating- I have scribbled sticky notes all over its pages! I am glad i have a background in philosophy, but mostly male with a few exceptions! (edited) 5mo
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kspenmoll Yes, if you read about philosophy‘s history of only paying attention to male‘s philosophical ideas, you know it is an area of study that does not want to include women‘ideas & experiences at all. 5mo
GingerAntics @kspenmoll definitely. I feel like it actively rejects the experiences of women, in fact. 5mo
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