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I have some questions. Very thought provoking theory. I look forward to discussing this with the dead philosophers society in the new year. #MerlinStone #WhenGodWasAWoman #audiobook #religion #philosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety

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When God was a Woman | Merlin Stone

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I know this isn‘t exactly philosophy, but it is religion and spirituality which is a part of philosophy. I can just imagine the conversations we could have with this one. I‘m just touching base to see if this is something our group would like to read. No worries, I‘m thinking beginning of the year because the holidays are just careening toward us. Thoughts on this or any other ideas for our next read?

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@ravenlee @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @AlaSkaat @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp @CatLass007 @DrSabrinaMoldenReads @TheBookHippie 4w

GingerAntics @ravenlee apparently Litsy is not a fan of whoever is listed first! lol 4w

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie it‘s not just you! 4w

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TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 😅🤣 4w

ravenlee 😆 Now I feel all special! Yes, I am interested. 4w

GingerAntics @ravenlee you are so special!!! 🧡🧡🧡 4w

DrSabrinaMoldenReads Thanks for thinking of me! 4w

CatLass007 I think this looks like a great selection! I‘m definitely in for this one. 4w

Chrissyreadit i love this book and could reread or reskimm and join in- it is a huge reason for the beliefs i have 4w

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit it‘s definitely making me think through the beliefs I‘ve held my entire life. I look forward to our discussions. 4w

DrSabrinaMoldenReads I cannot follow you 4w

AlaSkaat This looks interesting, something I‘d pick up at this moment! I‘m in 😄 4w

DrSabrinaMoldenReads Oh Ok 4w

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

so-so

This might be a good book to read for some people. If you‘ve never thought about these things before or never thought about the other side of these issues, then this could be a good book. As far as this being a philosophy book, it‘s mostly her thoughts on the issues with a little philosophy sprinkled in here and there. It‘s just not a philosophy book in and of itself.
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GingerAntics The people who need to read it, that would actually get something out of it, won‘t read it. The people who will read it have already had these thoughts and will likely find that she‘s coming at the issues from a level of privilege that may be normal for the UK (though I doubt it), but is far above the average in the US. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 2mo

GingerAntics It‘s not a bad book, it just wasn‘t what I was expecting from a philosophy book, and not what my philosophy group was expecting or looking for. #ArianneShahvisi #ArguingForABetterWorld #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety 2mo

TheBookHippie Perfect summary! 2mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie thank you 2mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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We have finally, sort of, reached the end. Any final thoughts? Questions, comments, snide remarks?

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TheBookHippie It‘s not what I thought it‘d be? I learned nada. I think it‘s from a place of privilege??? I‘m crabby 😵‍💫😝🫣😂 2mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie lol she definitely had privilege that I know I don‘t have, and many others don‘t have. I didn‘t feel like I really learned anything either. In fact, I feel like it was mostly just her thoughts, with some philosophy sprinkled in here and there. 2mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 🎯🎯🎯 2mo

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AlaSkaat I‘m way behind, just finished this yesterday. I‘ve been lost somewhere inside my days, trying to climb back up to life now. The book was alright… I agree it was mostly her thoughts… she seemed to tell us how SHE sees the world rather than building actual sound arguments. She did talk through important issues but it felt more like a ‘listen to me!‘ than a proper exploration of the issues… 2mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat 100%! I get that feeling. I hope you‘re coming back to the surface now. 2mo

AlaSkaat Thank you. I didn‘t realise how bad I was, was completely drowning. I kept reading the book but couldn‘t focus at all; I thought I was just having concentration issues! In reality I was going through a complete burnout. And I was so mad reading the book, I was in such a state that every little injustice/stupidity made me furious. I kept thinking wtf wtf every chapter ready to fight haha 2mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat been there! I don‘t know if I‘ve come out of that or if I‘ve just sort of dissociated from the entire madness of the world. 2mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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Are We Responsible for Structural Injustice?

Sorry, it‘s been a wild weekend. I swear I‘m getting back on track.
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TheBookHippie I think we have to always be conscious of it. People with privilege do not have to think about it and they should at every turn. 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree… we need to be aware of the system issues, we need to uphold our own personal ethics in doing what we can, and support/encourage the people in a position to chip away at the system. 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie the thing about how much meat Americans eat? Ouch! The “we‘re so manly all we eat is meat” sect of toxic masculinity come to mind as massive offenders! We could all due with more veggies, but that‘s a huge price difference between hot dogs and buns vs veggies, salads, breads to make more meatless dishes. It would be a choice of hotdogs or cereal for many. 3mo

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TheBookHippie @GingerAntics it‘s priced that way on purpose to keep us all sick IMO… I eat vegetables only for lunch everyday and I‘m still here 🤣🤭 we eat too much meat period. Oy 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree. Can I PLEASE get some Alfredo WITHOUT the nasty chicken in?! I just want the Alfredo, people!!! Why is this so much to ask for?! 3mo

kspenmoll I need to catch up! 3mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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Who is canceling whom?

Alright, we‘re back on track. I hope everyone is doing well.
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GingerAntics I feel like this was saying what I‘ve been saying ever since people started shouting and whining about cancel culture. Before the internet, if you offended people, those people stopped talking to you and stopped including you. It‘s literally the same thing. This is nothing new. Stop whining and maybe reflect on why people don‘t want anything to do with you online. 3mo

TheBookHippie This is old as Jesus dusting his sandals off and walking away…. It‘s not a WOKE thing. It‘s integrity. 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree 3mo

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GingerAntics @TheBookHippie your comment made me think of the story of an Arab guy in 1909 being declared white because the serpent court would rather call all Arabs white than say Jesus is brown. These folks have made their own Jesus who straight up never existed. I don‘t know if that story is true or not, but it certainly highlights the craziness of some folks. 3mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics oh I‘ve heard that story too. Michelangelo painting a naked man out of desire and eroticism … WHOISTHAT oh it‘s Jesus he says…. And white Jesus continues 😵‍💫😬😳 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie true, but I think he just wanted to see a naked dude… he may have already had a crush on him, so he never intended to do much beyond that. 3mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 🤣🤣🤣🤣🎯 3mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie seriously, people. Just let people love who they love and are attracted to. Just stay up out of people‘s business. Just mind your business! 3mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

Okay, so I just checked the schedule and realised I was WAY ahead. I have no idea where I got so off. Where is everyone in the book? I‘m so sorry if I got everyone confused as all get out… I am equally confused because I‘m not sure how we got here, tbh.

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GingerAntics @ravenlee officially, it doesn‘t like the first person listed in a comment. @TheBookHippie it‘s not just you! 3mo

TheBookHippie I thought it was off and I‘ve misplaced my book so…. I‘ll get back to you😵‍💫🤦🏻‍♀️ 3mo

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GingerAntics @TheBookHippie lol I have no clue how I got so far off… then again, two weeks ago I started listening to the audiobook while I was donating plasma and next thing I knew, I was at the conclusion, so maybe I listened too far a couple times? (edited) 3mo

kspenmoll Will get back to you! 3mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll at least I‘m not the only one confused. Sorry guys. 3mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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Where does a mansplainer get his water?
Sorry guys. I got my days all jumbled up again.
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GingerAntics I feel like I‘ve gotten WAY mixed up. This wasn‘t even supposed to so up until 27 July. I‘m starting to get REALLY confused. 3mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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Who should we believe?
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GingerAntics This chapter has just confirmed for me that we need to stop believing white men - the richer, the less creditable… also, himpathy is my new favourite word!!! 4mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I feel himpathy is a. brilliant word …… ALSO white men- They know they cannot be in power unless they take everyone else‘s power away. So that‘s their daily task. 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie right?! And they assume everyone else is going to treat them as crappy as they‘ve treated everyone else all this time. It‘s a confession. They know how crappy they‘ve been. 4mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

I am so sorry. It‘s been a crazy weekend.
Do all lives matter?
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GingerAntics In reality, yes. Socially, no. It‘s why we have to say “Black Lives Matter” in the first place! 4mo

TheBookHippie Right?!?!?! the “not all men” makes me vomit. Yes. Men. Most of them. Almost all. So sit down. 4mo

Eggbeater All lives aren't currently being treated by society as though they matter. But if you're a rich, white billionaire with a penis, you just hit the jackpot. 4mo

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TheBookHippie @Eggbeater 💯💯💯💯💯 4mo

Deblovestoread @Eggbeater Got it in one 🎯 4mo

Amiable All lives should matter. But they don‘t. Which is why Black Lives Matter! 4mo

lil1inblue @Eggbeater 🎯🎯🎯 4mo

lil1inblue @TheBookHippie I'm so sick of not all men, too. I just say, "It's all men until it's no men." 4mo

TheBookHippie @lil1inblue 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie EXACTLY!!! Stop acting like you‘re being attacked and claiming it‘s not you, and tell a man who IS doing this crap to stop. Then we can talk. 4mo

GingerAntics @Eggbeater 🎯🎯🎯 spot on! 4mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue 1000% yes 4mo

GingerAntics @Amiable EXACTLY!!! If Black Lives Matter or “this guy assaulted me” offends you, then maybe you should ask yourself why instead of acting like you‘re somehow offended. You‘re not offended, you‘re pissed that someone is daring to question your authority as a white person or as a man. 4mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics yes this. 4mo

AnnCrystal All Lives Do Matter! Indigenous Americans highlights “All Children Matter.“

I believe that schools need to begin teaching lessons on empathy, and the necessity of being humane. 4mo

GingerAntics @AnnCrystal I totally agree! I would love to see that happen. 4mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue @TheBookHippie Knitting Cult Lady told a story about this time she was in a local community group online, and this woman was asking for help moving because her husband was abusive and she wanted to get her and the kids out… not a single man volunteered. When asked why, every one of them said “he might hurt me.” Bro, you‘re afraid? What do you think she is? Only the women would help her. 4mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue @TheBookHippie these are the same people who say “why didn‘t she just leave if she was so afraid of him?” 🙄 until men start calling out other men‘s behaviour, until men by default believe women when they say they‘ve been abused, until men show up for women, don‘t come at me with “not all men.” 4mo

lil1inblue @GingerAntics 🎯 🎯 🎯“Until men start calling out other men's behaviour“ 🙌 4mo

lil1inblue I guess along the same lines, it's also Black Lives Matter until all lives matter! 4mo

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