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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

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This might be a good book to read for some people. If you‘ve never thought about these things before or never thought about the other side of these issues, then this could be a good book. As far as this being a philosophy book, it‘s mostly her thoughts on the issues with a little philosophy sprinkled in here and there. It‘s just not a philosophy book in and of itself.
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GingerAntics The people who need to read it, that would actually get something out of it, won‘t read it. The people who will read it have already had these thoughts and will likely find that she‘s coming at the issues from a level of privilege that may be normal for the UK (though I doubt it), but is far above the average in the US. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 4mo

GingerAntics It‘s not a bad book, it just wasn‘t what I was expecting from a philosophy book, and not what my philosophy group was expecting or looking for. #ArianneShahvisi #ArguingForABetterWorld #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety 4mo

TheBookHippie Perfect summary! 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie thank you 4mo

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We have finally, sort of, reached the end. Any final thoughts? Questions, comments, snide remarks?

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TheBookHippie It‘s not what I thought it‘d be? I learned nada. I think it‘s from a place of privilege??? I‘m crabby 😵‍💫😝🫣😂 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie lol she definitely had privilege that I know I don‘t have, and many others don‘t have. I didn‘t feel like I really learned anything either. In fact, I feel like it was mostly just her thoughts, with some philosophy sprinkled in here and there. 4mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 🎯🎯🎯 4mo

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AlaSkaat I‘m way behind, just finished this yesterday. I‘ve been lost somewhere inside my days, trying to climb back up to life now. The book was alright… I agree it was mostly her thoughts… she seemed to tell us how SHE sees the world rather than building actual sound arguments. She did talk through important issues but it felt more like a ‘listen to me!‘ than a proper exploration of the issues… 3mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat 100%! I get that feeling. I hope you‘re coming back to the surface now. 3mo

AlaSkaat Thank you. I didn‘t realise how bad I was, was completely drowning. I kept reading the book but couldn‘t focus at all; I thought I was just having concentration issues! In reality I was going through a complete burnout. And I was so mad reading the book, I was in such a state that every little injustice/stupidity made me furious. I kept thinking wtf wtf every chapter ready to fight haha 3mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat been there! I don‘t know if I‘ve come out of that or if I‘ve just sort of dissociated from the entire madness of the world. 3mo

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Are We Responsible for Structural Injustice?

Sorry, it‘s been a wild weekend. I swear I‘m getting back on track.
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TheBookHippie I think we have to always be conscious of it. People with privilege do not have to think about it and they should at every turn. 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree… we need to be aware of the system issues, we need to uphold our own personal ethics in doing what we can, and support/encourage the people in a position to chip away at the system. 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie the thing about how much meat Americans eat? Ouch! The “we‘re so manly all we eat is meat” sect of toxic masculinity come to mind as massive offenders! We could all due with more veggies, but that‘s a huge price difference between hot dogs and buns vs veggies, salads, breads to make more meatless dishes. It would be a choice of hotdogs or cereal for many. 4mo

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TheBookHippie @GingerAntics it‘s priced that way on purpose to keep us all sick IMO… I eat vegetables only for lunch everyday and I‘m still here 🤣🤭 we eat too much meat period. Oy 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree. Can I PLEASE get some Alfredo WITHOUT the nasty chicken in?! I just want the Alfredo, people!!! Why is this so much to ask for?! 4mo

kspenmoll I need to catch up! 4mo

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Who is canceling whom?

Alright, we‘re back on track. I hope everyone is doing well.
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GingerAntics I feel like this was saying what I‘ve been saying ever since people started shouting and whining about cancel culture. Before the internet, if you offended people, those people stopped talking to you and stopped including you. It‘s literally the same thing. This is nothing new. Stop whining and maybe reflect on why people don‘t want anything to do with you online. 4mo

TheBookHippie This is old as Jesus dusting his sandals off and walking away…. It‘s not a WOKE thing. It‘s integrity. 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 100% agree 4mo

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GingerAntics @TheBookHippie your comment made me think of the story of an Arab guy in 1909 being declared white because the serpent court would rather call all Arabs white than say Jesus is brown. These folks have made their own Jesus who straight up never existed. I don‘t know if that story is true or not, but it certainly highlights the craziness of some folks. 4mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics oh I‘ve heard that story too. Michelangelo painting a naked man out of desire and eroticism … WHOISTHAT oh it‘s Jesus he says…. And white Jesus continues 😵‍💫😬😳 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie true, but I think he just wanted to see a naked dude… he may have already had a crush on him, so he never intended to do much beyond that. 4mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 🤣🤣🤣🤣🎯 4mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie seriously, people. Just let people love who they love and are attracted to. Just stay up out of people‘s business. Just mind your business! 4mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

Okay, so I just checked the schedule and realised I was WAY ahead. I have no idea where I got so off. Where is everyone in the book? I‘m so sorry if I got everyone confused as all get out… I am equally confused because I‘m not sure how we got here, tbh.

GingerAntics @ravenlee officially, it doesn‘t like the first person listed in a comment. @TheBookHippie it‘s not just you! 5mo

TheBookHippie I thought it was off and I‘ve misplaced my book so…. I‘ll get back to you😵‍💫🤦🏻‍♀️ 5mo

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GingerAntics @TheBookHippie lol I have no clue how I got so far off… then again, two weeks ago I started listening to the audiobook while I was donating plasma and next thing I knew, I was at the conclusion, so maybe I listened too far a couple times? (edited) 5mo

kspenmoll Will get back to you! 4mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll at least I‘m not the only one confused. Sorry guys. 4mo

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Where does a mansplainer get his water?
Sorry guys. I got my days all jumbled up again.
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GingerAntics I feel like I‘ve gotten WAY mixed up. This wasn‘t even supposed to so up until 27 July. I‘m starting to get REALLY confused. 5mo

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Who should we believe?
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GingerAntics This chapter has just confirmed for me that we need to stop believing white men - the richer, the less creditable… also, himpathy is my new favourite word!!! 5mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I feel himpathy is a. brilliant word …… ALSO white men- They know they cannot be in power unless they take everyone else‘s power away. So that‘s their daily task. 5mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie right?! And they assume everyone else is going to treat them as crappy as they‘ve treated everyone else all this time. It‘s a confession. They know how crappy they‘ve been. 5mo

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I am so sorry. It‘s been a crazy weekend.
Do all lives matter?
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GingerAntics In reality, yes. Socially, no. It‘s why we have to say “Black Lives Matter” in the first place! 5mo

TheBookHippie Right?!?!?! the “not all men” makes me vomit. Yes. Men. Most of them. Almost all. So sit down. 5mo

Eggbeater All lives aren't currently being treated by society as though they matter. But if you're a rich, white billionaire with a penis, you just hit the jackpot. 5mo

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TheBookHippie @Eggbeater 💯💯💯💯💯 5mo

Deblovestoread @Eggbeater Got it in one 🎯 5mo

Amiable All lives should matter. But they don‘t. Which is why Black Lives Matter! 5mo

lil1inblue @Eggbeater 🎯🎯🎯 5mo

lil1inblue @TheBookHippie I'm so sick of not all men, too. I just say, "It's all men until it's no men." 5mo

TheBookHippie @lil1inblue 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 5mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie EXACTLY!!! Stop acting like you‘re being attacked and claiming it‘s not you, and tell a man who IS doing this crap to stop. Then we can talk. 5mo

GingerAntics @Eggbeater 🎯🎯🎯 spot on! 5mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue 1000% yes 5mo

GingerAntics @Amiable EXACTLY!!! If Black Lives Matter or “this guy assaulted me” offends you, then maybe you should ask yourself why instead of acting like you‘re somehow offended. You‘re not offended, you‘re pissed that someone is daring to question your authority as a white person or as a man. 5mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics yes this. 5mo

AnnCrystal All Lives Do Matter! Indigenous Americans highlights “All Children Matter.“

I believe that schools need to begin teaching lessons on empathy, and the necessity of being humane. 5mo

GingerAntics @AnnCrystal I totally agree! I would love to see that happen. 5mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue @TheBookHippie Knitting Cult Lady told a story about this time she was in a local community group online, and this woman was asking for help moving because her husband was abusive and she wanted to get her and the kids out… not a single man volunteered. When asked why, every one of them said “he might hurt me.” Bro, you‘re afraid? What do you think she is? Only the women would help her. 5mo

GingerAntics @lil1inblue @TheBookHippie these are the same people who say “why didn‘t she just leave if she was so afraid of him?” 🙄 until men start calling out other men‘s behaviour, until men by default believe women when they say they‘ve been abused, until men show up for women, don‘t come at me with “not all men.” 5mo

lil1inblue @GingerAntics 🎯 🎯 🎯“Until men start calling out other men's behaviour“ 🙌 5mo

lil1inblue I guess along the same lines, it's also Black Lives Matter until all lives matter! 5mo

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I need this early morning philosophy in this hot,war torn world. #adventuresinphosophy #philosophyforsocialjustice

I am only on p. 40 between underlining,note taking,stickies. 🐢🐢

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TheBookHippie 🙃 6mo

AnnCrystal 🫂📚💝. 6mo

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#bookmail #BlameItOnLitsy

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Is it sexist to say ‘men are trash‘? Maybe it‘s better to ask: Can you be sexist to a man?

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TheBookHippie There are no repercussions for being male. Name me a law CURRENTLY that controls men‘s bodies, ability to have a credit card, own property, CHANGE back to your maiden name with out signed permission, etc etc. you cannot be sexist to someone in power. It‘s impossible. White men obviously … but even in other cases the male factor over rides. The government legislates our bodies. So I may be a bit anger biased. 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie 1000000% agree! 6mo

kspenmoll I cannot say it any better than @TheBookHippie 6mo

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Sace

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New information for me. My book is so marked up!
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IriDas It‘s truly one of the best kept secrets. When you try to tell people this they just won‘t believe you. 6mo

GingerAntics This was eye opening. I did not know this existed. I can‘t imagine anyone ever thought it was cool that the descendants of slaves pay taxes toward the reimbursement of their ancestors‘ slave owners. That is just gross. Racism is seriously mind bending. 6mo

quietlycuriouskate I knew about the "compensation" but not the scale of it, nor the fact that my family and I were still paying it back until recently. ? 6mo

sarahbarnes Ludicrous. Especially considering the pushback against the idea of reparations for Black families impacted by slavery in the US. 6mo

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Only 14 pages in, but so much “meat.” Some info I am familiar with but enjoy the historical evidence, research entailed in writing this book. It is always good to review because for me it brings this knowledge to the forefront of my mind & creates pathways to new thinking. Poe‘s tail! 😻😹

Librarybelle Hi to Poe! 6mo

KadaGul Poe is giving his approval of your reading. 6mo

AnnCrystal 😍Kittycat tail💕🐈💝. 6mo

dabbe Perfect #kittytailbookmark! 🤩🤩🤩 6mo

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Has ‘political correctness‘ gone too far? Is there any such thing as ‘politically correct‘ or is it just human decency?
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TheBookHippie Human decency has left the building. The wheels are off the bus. Decorum gone. Politically - correctness left awhile ago. I do think it should be decency moral ethical …. Honestly politeness got us here and it needs to stop. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I get the sentiment of it all. It‘s just not being practiced. And I don‘t think it ever was. It was all a long game to get here. But yes if you think of decorum there did use to be politeness. Across the aisle work. 6mo

kspenmoll I agree with @TheBookHippie such politically correctness can be used as a tool to declare how anti whatever someone is. We went thru training years ago at work & those I would consider racist/sexist in certain ways,did not see not see themselves that way at all.Totally believed in their perception.I remember one student calling out US history teacher for not teaching about any indigenous people unless they were warriors scalping whites, or⬇️ 6mo

kspenmoll ⬆️ or women - or black hispanic history except in wars- never got out of the 1950s. He retired a few years ago… Now all that has changed. 6mo

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TheBookHippie @kspenmoll YES!!! Great examples! 6mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie yes to both of you. Yes to all of this. We need to stop trying to be polite and stop giving the benefit of the doubt. Take people at their word, because people are being stunningly honest about their intentions and thoughts right now. They‘re saying the quiet part loud and proud. I hate to say these folks need to have their feelings hurt, but they do. Your feelings are harming others in very physical, real, life and death 6mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll @TheBookHippie ways. Getting just their feelings hurt is fine. We need to stop trying to convince people. We need to stop hoping people will “come around.” We need to be direct. We need to be brutally honest. We need to stop accepting intolerance in the name of acceptance and tolerance. 6mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics EXACTLY. Decorum is currently dead. 6mo

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After a tough week,news,work, allergies,Netanyahu,Israel/Iran,LA,45 million? we are paying for little t‘s birthday parade, India‘s plane crash, my son‘s rising anxiety due to all this, I dealt with the myriad of feelings these things evoked in me,by having a moscow mule.That‘s not my usual way to cope.I am hoping my exhaustion, anxiety, etc. will lift after Robert & I join in Hartford‘s Protest at the Capital tomorrow.
#NoKingsRally

Librarybelle ❤️❤️❤️ 6mo

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TheBookHippie Sending love & light!!! 6mo

willaful Best of luck tomorrow! Action helps! 6mo

GingerAntics Good luck. Stay safe! 6mo

AnnCrystal ✊🏼🫂🙏🏼💝💝💝. 6mo

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Can you be racist to a white person?
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Sorry I didn‘t post earlier. I‘m still getting my brain working today.

TheBookHippie I don‘t think so. Privilege at the end of the day. I understand people‘s arguments. I just don‘t think so. White for being just white nothing else. At the end of the day, being white is your privilege. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I agree. Also “Karen” is neither sexist nor racist. I think the answer to all of it is “check your privilege!” 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie did this chapter read as pompous as the intro? 6mo

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TheBookHippie @GingerAntics no, misguided maybe. I am interested though and I think it‘s something to read that‘ll give insight to differing ways of thought processes. 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie some of it did sound like maybe giving a pass to behaviours that shouldn‘t be given passes, if that sounds right. That could be my own privilege. I just think the right approach isn‘t “hey, it‘s fine to make race jokes and comments as long as they‘re against white people.” I think that‘s just confirming white nationalist fears that black and brown people are going to do the same things the white people have done to them. 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I don‘t think we should cater to white nationalists by any means, and their fears are entirely unfounded by any measure. I just don‘t think continuing to make skin color an insult is the solution. We need to get away from that entirely. It never should have started, but we can choose to do better, and we need to choose better, and choose to eradicate that entirely. That‘s just my take on it. 6mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics the comments should not be said. That‘s it. 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie exactly! I agree it doesn‘t have the same history behind it, but that doesn‘t make it okay or right. 6mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 🎯 6mo

AlaSkaat I made the mistake of reading the second chapter last week so I just got to this one. If it‘s the case of ‘can you or can‘t you‘ it‘s simple. You can. Although racism towards white people is more or less just the present hate and ignorance and not part of a long history of oppression, violence and exclusion, it doesn‘t make it okay 6mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat well, it‘s never bad to be ahead! Yeah, this one doesn‘t have a simple answer. If it has to be simple, “sorta” might due. lol 6mo

AlaSkaat I feel she had the attitude of ‘other people have it worse‘ in this chapter. I absolutely hate that. It minimises the impact of individual experiences. I was called an immigrant and told to go back to my country at just 13 years old. Is it comparable to what black people, especially women, go through? No. But is that to say it wasn‘t impactful and I should be grateful cause it‘s not worse? 6mo

AlaSkaat Racism towards black people is a huge issue that shouldn‘t be compared. It‘s a whole different kind of racism than we white people experience. I just didn‘t think the argument was right and comparable here 6mo

AlaSkaat People are racist towards me through entitlements mostly, the ‘they‘re stealing our jobs‘ lol, that‘s not the same as hating someone for thinking them so beneath you in human form? Tbf, now I think about it, in this case, you CAN‘T be racist to a white person. But all this really needs a new separate name haha 6mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat yeah, there is racism, there is xenophobia, there is prejudice, sexism, agism that all play a roll in this. Unfortunately, those often get lumped into “racism,” which is a big enough problem without that. I agree with her point that everyone is an intersection of many different isms. You‘re female. You‘re an immigrant. I‘m a female. I‘m poor. We‘re both outspoken and stand up for what we believe in. (edited) 6mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat there is definitely space to say that we have been persecuted, we have dealt with prejudice, without minimising either our experience or black and brown people‘s experiences; there is room to say what happened to us is wrong and it has harmed us while simultaneously knowing that other people are treated worse. Neither is right. Neither is okay. We definitely shouldn‘t act like it‘s only the worst evils that we should deal with or think 6mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat are bad or wrong or whatever. If one person is treated with prejudice, then we are all at risk of it, so all of it must go! I definitely see what you‘re saying about her minimising anything that isn‘t black or brown people as not as bad so it can‘t be racism. 6mo

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Early morning coffee. Nearby rooster crowing,bird song, cool air, blue skies with powder puff clouds. And of course, coffee and a book.
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monalyisha What a perfect morning! 6mo

AnnCrystal Bliss 🤩👍🏼💝💝💝. 6mo

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What is Good?: The Search for the Best Way to Live

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How is everyone doing after the intro? What are your thoughts going forward?
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TheBookHippie I‘ll get to it!! 🤦🏻‍♀️😵‍💫 6mo

kspenmoll I will get to intro etc this week! 6mo

AlaSkaat I like the idea of Show your working, especially in thought/opinion.
When she said how disappointing it is people are so focused on being ‘right‘ and oftentimes not even forming their own opinion, just borrowing others for the sake of being right… and then ‘it‘s not my job to educate you‘ when asked to explain… I wonder how many Trump followers blindly follow him and scream his words without really understanding them.. 6mo

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AlaSkaat Maybe not not understanding it, but rather never forming their own opinion and following his. Cause anyone in their right mind who has really thought about it (enough to show their work in this sense) would go the other way… 6mo

AlaSkaat This reminded me of the tagged book. Good can vary from parson to person. I‘m curious to see how she explains each topic in every chapter. Can you be racist to a white person… there are people of each opinion. Which one is the ‘right‘ one? I hope she goes into detail!

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TheBookHippie She reads pompous know it all but I‘m eager to see how she carries the themes out. I too am of the SHOW your working. I get the call day after CheetoSatan gets elected “ OHNO-what do I do ? What are YOU doing to stop this?” Pisses me off. I‘m doing the same damn thing everyday I always do. Look in the mirror people… own your privilege and use it. 6mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat I loved her idea of showing your work as well. It made so much sense. I had the same thoughts. How many people are just regurgitating ideas without a thought? The next chapter should be interesting. I think “reverse racism” is used often times in ways that aren‘t actually racist. Although, I do think there are situations where people think negative things about white people just because they‘re white, and that IS racism. 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie in the audio I don‘t feel like she came off very pompous, but I was also wasn‘t paying attention to that as much when I was listening. I‘ll have to listen for it this week. My new catch phrase is “have the day you voted for.” So many people upset because his BS is actually harming them now. You voted for this. Have the day you voted for, folks! 6mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics exactly -have the day you voted for !!! 6mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie that‘s my new catch phrase! I love it! 6mo

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Read the into today. Enjoying it so far. Can‘t wait for our discussions.
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kspenmoll I have this in a pile-thanks for the reminder! 6mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I almost missed it. June seriously snuck up on me. I‘m glad I checked my calendar! 6mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

Sorry guys, it‘s been a crazy few weeks. I finally got this done. If this is too early to start, we can push it back some. Let me know.

1 June - Intro
8 June - Can You Be Racist to a White Person?
15 June - Has'Political Correctness' Gone Too Far?
22 June - What's Wrong with Dog Whistles?
29 June - Is It Sexist to Say'Men Are Trash'?
13 July - Do All Lives Matter?
20 July - Who Should We Believe?
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GingerAntics 27 July - Where Does a Mansplainer Get His Water?
3 Aug - Who Is Cancelling Whom?
10 Aug - Are We Responsible for Structural Injustice?
17 Aug - Conclusion #Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
@TheBookHippie @ravenlee @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @AlaSkaat @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp @CatLass007 7mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie this thing is getting rude! 7mo

CatLass007 Thank you for including me in your post group. I look forward to the discussions. 7mo

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TheBookHippie lol!!!! I‘m ready to go put book on hold it was on shelf so I‘m all set! 7mo

Chrissyreadit looks good 7mo

kspenmoll I am ready too! 7mo

DrSabrinaMoldenReads What is this all about? 7mo

GingerAntics @DrSabrinaMoldenReads it‘s the next book we will be reading for the dead philosophers society. You can join us if you‘d like. 7mo

DrSabrinaMoldenReads Thanks!!! That sounds interesting! Please include me. (edited) 7mo

AlaSkaat I‘ve still got to buy this book but it sounds interesting. I‘m slowly getting back into a normal reading routine after the bad few months I‘ve had, so I‘ll try to engage more this time around 🤞 7mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat I hope everything is getting better. Ease yourself back in if you need to. No rush. No pressure. 7mo

AlaSkaat @GingerAntics thank you. I‘ve had a lot of health issues come up in the middle of my grief and the past 3 months have been sooo hard. But it‘s all settling slowly… I‘m definitely making rest a priority now so will definitely have time to read! 7mo

AlaSkaat Thanks for still including me btw, I‘ve been awol for so long haha I came back here after I think a year or more? And you guys were still having these discussions! So awesome 7mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat oh no, I‘m so sorry. That always seems to make things worse. Rest is always a good time to read. Yeah, we‘re still chugging along. I‘m so glad you‘re getting to come back, though. We‘ve missed you. 7mo

AlaSkaat @GingerAntics thank you! I‘ve missed it here too. It‘s really nice to be back, even if I‘m easing in slowly while I get everything back on track. I just hope the world has given me enough ‘lessons‘ for a while and I can stick to reading about them instead 😅 7mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat girl, I know that feeling. Fingers crossed on reading instead of living the lessons. Ugh. 7mo

AlaSkaat @GingerAntics 🤞🤞 the book came today. I‘ll make a start on it. I saw a lot of mixed reviews about it 🧐 7mo

GingerAntics @AlaSkaat fingers crossed, we shall see 7mo

Sace I just ordered a copy today. I know I won‘t get to the discussion, but I‘m enjoying the comments and conversation. 6mo

GingerAntics @Sace that‘s fine. Just jump in when you get there. 6mo

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Arguing for a Better World: How to talk about the issues that divide us | Arianne Shahvisi

Do we want to read this book next, or one of our back catalogue? Also, should we go back to having discussion questions, or did you like having a more informal format?
#Philosophy #AdventuresInPhilosophy #DeadPhilosophersSociety
@TheBookHippie @ravenlee @JaclynW @RavenLovelyReads @AlaSkaat @Chrissyreadit @kspenmoll @bnp

kspenmoll I would like to read this tagged book. Informal is fine- discussion questions if you have the inclination & time. 8mo

GingerAntics @kspenmoll I‘m thinking if I do questions, maybe I would just pick one for the chapter instead of trying to come up with as many as possible. Not looking at everything as a possible discussion question really let me take in the book more. 8mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics yes sounds good!! Informal one per chapter is fine by me! 8mo

Chrissyreadit I was able to get it through Libby and intend to read this one with all of you. 8mo

GingerAntics @Chrissyreadit WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!! 8mo

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