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monalyisha
All Fours | Miranda July
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I‘m supposed to have strong feelings about this, right? But, I guess…sometimes I liked it a whole lot (eg, “I stood holding the note with that funny little abandoned feeling one gets a million times a day in a domestic setting. I could have cried, but why?”) and sometimes I felt like rolling my eyes — HARD (eg, “The future itself was another lover, reaching backward in time to cup my balls”). I bet Miranda July gets that a lot. 👇🏻

monalyisha 1/6: I neither loved it nor hated it — or…maybe, I loved AND hated it. But “love” feels too strong a word for a reaction to isolated sentences or thoughts and not to a whole. To love well, you‘ve got to love a person (or a book) in their wholeness. 7d
monalyisha 2/6: You can‘t make them excise pieces of themselves to earn your love. You have to just figure out a way to embrace them and let them be — or at least find the “them” that you love *inside of* the thing you don‘t like; each trait has a negative and a positive expression. But I don‘t really want to let certain things in this novel just “be.” I‘d rather they weren‘t there. 7d
monalyisha 3/6: And actually, I know July lost a lot of people with the tampon scene…but she lost me (and then roped me back in, and then lost me again, ad infinitum) when the narrator was preparing for “the dance.” I kept thinking, “This is *still* happening? All of this? Really?” I want to use the term “self-indulgent” but it feels bad. 7d
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monalyisha 4/6: Usually, I feel like women aren‘t allowed to indulge themselves often enough; that‘s a huge part of July‘s whole point (and one that I agree with)! But in the particular case of this novel, I was definitely left wondering if short stories would be a better format for her. And then I remembered that she‘d published a (?) collection already, which has been languishing on my shelf for the better part of a decade. 7d
monalyisha 5/6: So, I‘m sorry for thinking that July is “too much” and for trying to make her smaller…but maybe I should stop apologizing? And also stop ending my sentences with questions? Unapologetic confidence! Let the (book review) world *beg* to cup my balls! 7d
monalyisha 6/6: I know, for certain, that I found this compulsively readable. And I appreciate that the MC neither drives nor flies (nor parks) at the end. She walks. That feels like the character growth we all needed. 7d
ChaoticMissAdventures The Barnes and Noble in my MI's picked this for their October book club and her and I talked about it a lot - a lot about this "too much" idea and what women are "allowed" to do. She was so excited, 7 or 8 people had signed up with her and she wanted to talk about her evolution in thinking about the book. When she got there every single other person bailed and it was just her and the B&N manager! She said they still had a good talk. 7d
Sparklemn The tampon scene was unbearable but I was dying to learn how it all turned out. Glad I finished it. (edited) 7d
monalyisha @ChaoticMissAdventures I picked it for my book club (back at the end of last year; we plan a whole year out). I foresee the rest of the book club members/my friends being mad at me about it — and saying “Nope” a lot. 😅 But maybe they‘ll surprise me! What sorts of things did your MIL have to say? (edited) 6d
monalyisha @Sparklemn I understood the intimacy she was/they were after (and the boundaries that were being intentionally transgressed; didn‘t Fifty Shades notoriously do something similar?). I think it was once she was back at home and still obsessing, with no end in sight, that I became the most uncomfortable and frustrated as a reader. 6d
ChaoticMissAdventures @monalyisha she was really glad she pushed herself! This is not the type of book she would normally read but she is trying to not be in a rut since retiring. She had a lot of the same feelings as you, the thought of what women are allowed to do, even in fiction, also the comparison of male mid life crisis vs perimenopause. She was also super interested in the sexual aspect, how the MC and the guy have a sensual relationship w/o actual sex. 6d
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Gadolby
All Fours | Miranda July
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This is a wild story. Bizarre, unique, totally worth the read. Sometimes cringey, but also revelatory. It has an unabashedly earnest and honest voice about what it is like to lose yourself in middle age as a woman—sexuality, madness—all of it

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Billypar
All Fours | Miranda July
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How much you like All Fours may depend on whether you see a hidden thesis statement about relationships in middle age. But I don't think July wrote any lessons - in fact, it probably took a concerted effort to avoid them. The strange journey the main character takes, if not objectively realistic, felt true to people's struggles to reconcile sexual and relationship needs when they diverge. And way more interesting than the usual cheating narrative.

TheKidUpstairs Great review. I read this one with Camp Litsy last summer, and was fully prepared to hate it - instead I loved it. It was definitely a marmite book, people had VERY strong opinions! 3mo
TheBookHippie @TheKidUpstairs me 😝🎯 I HATED it. 🤦🏻‍♀️ It was a love or hate reaction from readers, I think too. 3mo
BarbaraBB Great review. I loved it too! 3mo
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AmyG Yes. Well said. I enjoyed it, too. It was wild. 3mo
Billypar @TheKidUpstairs Yeah, this one definitely fits into what you mentioned about Bunny. I expected to like it but not as much as I did. Polarizing books are always interesting to me. I know the main character was a dealbreaker for a lot of the bad reviews - not sure if that was true in your case @TheBookHippie ? 3mo
TheBookHippie @Billypar I think it was an insult to women, and a dangerous premise to say this is what women are at this stage. I abhorred the main character yes, but advertising this and publicizing it as how and what women want and are at this stage of life in the climate we are living in is both dangerous and an insult. That was my bigger issue. I found it distasteful on all levels. (edited) 3mo
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Julsmarshall
All Fours | Miranda July
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Mehso-so

This was strange, thought provoking, and honest(maybe more than I would have liked). I understand the discussion around it and suspect I‘ll be thinking about it for awhile.

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vonnie862
All Fours | Miranda July
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Ummmm...I was really close in DNFing this book, but I was curious to see if the MC would find closure and/or made some growth. Did she? I'm not so sure.

I did appreciate how the book touched on topics regarding sexuality (especially as we age), motherhood, gender, menopause, postpartum/trauma, and identity. However, I was not expecting to read how horny the MC was or about all her masturbation and sex escapades. ⬇️

vonnie862 Her treatment of her husband saddened me and kept wanting to shake her to be honest with him. I simply did not like her.

This book was not for me.
4mo
vonnie862 2 ⭐️ 4mo
Daisey I felt very much the same about this one. 4mo
CarolynM I think you‘re being generous. I hated her. 4mo
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Eggbeater
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#WDNCW #WeDoNotCareWednesday.
@dabbe

We do not care that when we complain about having our period for 19 days straight, you consider that too much information. If we have to live with it, you have to hear about it. 🩸

We're in #perimenopause , and we have no filters anymore. 🤣

TheBookHippie Oh I am sorry 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 so annoying.. 4mo
Karisa 19 days?! 😱 Peri sometimes feels like a continual line up of new betrayals of the body. Going to be so glad when the period part is done! 4mo
Prairiegirl_reading I thought once every two weeks was bad!! Peri is an asshole. I‘m sorry!!! 4mo
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CatLass007 Overshare away. May I tell you what my bowel habits have been since my surgery? 4mo
Eggbeater @CatLass007 But of course, my dear. If you have to live with it, the least I can do is listen. Doesn't bother me. 💩 4mo
Deblovestoread Ooof, I‘m sorry! When my periods changed from bad to worse I had an endometrial abalation which solved my problem. Not sure if it‘s a thing anymore but ask your doc. 4mo
AnnCrystal That's terrible 👸😶‍🌫️😵‍💫👌🏼💝. 4mo
Amiable I ended up having to have a surgical ablation to finally stop the persistent heavy bleeding when I was going through perimenopause — I feel your pain! 4mo
CatLass007 So sorry about your perimenopause p pain and troubles. Peri was a bear to endure but the relief of never having another period is priceless. You will get there. 4mo
CBee Dropping in to say that I can relate 💯 except, I also had an ablation and while it‘s tricky to figure out when my cycles will stop and I fully enter meno, not having periods has been bliss. Peri IS an asshole indeed @Prairiegirl_reading 4mo
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Floresj
All Fours | Miranda July
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As a 49 yo woman, I felt that parts of this book were so well written and hilarious, and other parts were so “WTF?”. Like a raunchy comedian who is so funny…and then tells a joke that makes you think “ok, that‘s too far.” I‘m not sure who or if I‘d recommend this, but I flew through it in 24 hours, and am both confused by and understand completely what I just read.

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TamTracy
All Fours | Miranda July
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Panpan

There were a few things about this book that I just could get past. Not for me. ⭐️⭐️

CarolynM Nor me😩 6mo
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