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All Fours
All Fours | Miranda July
A 2024 BOOK OF THE YEAR PICK FOR BBC R4 OPEN BOOK, THE OBSERVER, GQ, GRAZIA, HERO, I-D, NYLON A semi-famous artist announces her plan to drive cross-country from LA to NY. Thirty minutes after leaving her husband and child at home, she spontaneously exits the freeway, beds down in a nondescript motel and immerses herself in a temporary reinvention that turns out to be the start of an entirely different journey. Miranda Julys second novel confirms the brilliance of her unique approach to fiction. With Julys wry voice, perfect comic timing, unabashed curiosity about human intimacy and palpable delight in pushing boundaries, All Fours tells the story of one womans quest for a new kind of freedom. Part absurd entertainment, part tender reinvention of the sexual, romantic and domestic life of a 45-year-old female artist, All Fours transcends expectations while excavating our beliefs about life lived as a woman. Once again, July hijacks the familiar and turns it into something new and thrillingly, profoundly alive.
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MicheleinPhilly
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Pretty batshit but I‘m firmly in the “liked it a bunch” camp. I‘m not sure what that says about me. #CampLitsy24

sarahbarnes 🩵💯🩵 20h
squirrelbrain 🤪🤣😉 15h
BarbaraBB We‘re a great camp 😇 11h
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ChaoticMissAdventures
All Fours | Miranda July
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I really enjoyed this. Thanks #CampLitsy24 I don't think I would have picked it up without you. Our artist narrator (does she have a name??) is going through a midlife crisis, and perimenopause. I love books that give us messy women, & this one does. Our artist is looking for more, and she falls into lust with a young guy who works at Hertz. The randomness of it all works well for me.Yes she is rich & eccentric, I also think she exudes honesty

Caroline2 I really liked this one too. One 2d
BarbaraBB Great review. Glad you liked it! 2d
ChaoticMissAdventures @BarbaraBB I am sad so many others didn't like it at all!! I love an unexpected well written book. 2d
BarbaraBB Me too, I loved the unexpected! 2d
sarahbarnes Glad you enjoyed it! Great review. I really liked it too. 1d
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TheKidUpstairs
All Fours | Miranda July
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I went into this #CampLitsy24 selection thinking I'd hate it and end up bailing. But it drew me in from the very first chapter, and then I couldn't look away. It is a wild and messy ride, coupled with some really beautiful, raw, tender moments (especially with Sam, and one particularly moving "scene" that I'll put under a spoiler in comments).

I wouldn't have read this without camp, but I'm glad to have experienced it.

TheKidUpstairs When she returns to the motel for her meeting with Arkanda, and the screaming and yelling and connection that follows was so incredibly impactful. It was a truly beautiful moment. 3d
AmyG I really liked this, too. Go figure. 3d
BarbaraBB And me too. Somehow I knew you two would be in camp Love too 😀 @AmyG 3d
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ChaoticMissAdventures I just finished and really enjoyed it. So messy, and I love that we can allow a woman to be this messy! 3d
youneverarrived That was a really raw moment. I loved it too. 3d
TheKidUpstairs @ChaoticMissAdventures I LOVE messy stories about messy women 2d
TheKidUpstairs @AmyG @BarbaraBB gotta love a surprise pick, it really shakes things up! 2d
sarahbarnes Glad you liked it! I really did, too. 1d
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Roary47
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I got halfway through this thanks to buddy reading, but I just don‘t want to read these inner thoughts anymore. The main character is likely going through menopause, but is not being true to herself. She for whatever reason does not talk about it with her husband and some of the moments are so out there it‘s uncomfortable. I appreciate what I think the author is trying to portray with a woman‘s changing body as she gets older, and an inner voice.

Roary47 Sorry guys I tried but really can‘t read anymore about Davey and anatomy with a character I can‘t seem to like. 🤷‍♀️ 3d
squirrelbrain At least you tried! 😜 3d
TheBookHippie Cannot do it either. Also this is a hugely flawed woman. Not this is menopause as it‘s advertised. Just no. I get it‘s a metaphor too. It‘s just a horrific one and paints women in an awful light. This and how being queer is described made me bail ! #allhailthebail 3d
Megabooks Sorry you didn‘t like it! I felt she was true to herself by the end, but she wasn‘t someone I‘d be friends with. Jordi was more patient than I! 3d
dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 3d
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BC_Dittemore
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All Fours is what one would come to expect from Miranda July: an introspective and poignant assault on life filtered through our sexuality. It is sometimes laugh out loud hilarious while simultaneously making me want to barf — kinda like life, I guess.

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Laughterhp
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Life is too short to read this book. 😆 It feels like just watching a train wreck and I have way too many other books to read!

#camplitsy24 - read 59 pages.

sherrisilvera I hope your pup is ok!! 4d
squirrelbrain That seems to be the cut-off point for a few readers! 4d
dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 Hope the pup's doing okay, too! 🖤🐾🖤 4d
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Megabooks Oh no! The cone of shame! Sorry the book didn‘t work for you. 4d
CarolynM Good call. It doesn‘t get any better. 3d
Nebklvr Be ruthless. 3d
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kspenmoll
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I just had to bail. Could not could not waste my time reading this. Even though it was for #camplitsy24, I could not get beyond 60 or so pages. #hailthebail

TheKidUpstairs It is certainly not for everyone! I hope your next read works better 5d
squirrelbrain That‘s about as far as @trishb got I think! 5d
TrishB @squirrelbrain yep! There was obviously a natural break where I just went nope! 5d
CarolynM Good call. It didn‘t get any better. 3d
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Kitta
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Panpan

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I‘m sorry #camplitsy24 but this was not for me! I wanted to stick it out for the sake of the discussion though. Sometimes I love a books ending. This came full circle but didn‘t impress me.

Outdated stereotypes about bisexuality and a self obsessed narrator whose privilege and mid life crisis I just couldn‘t relate to.

It was a quick read at least 🤷🏻‍♀️

Caught my Hazel taking a nap #catsoflitsy

Also counts for #lgbt2024 @Kenyazero

dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 5d
TheBookHippie Agree with everything you said. 5d
Kenyazero I hate it when a group read flops! 2d
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Megabooks
All Fours | Miranda July
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Last question! I hope these have been good ones. I've got more next week, and I hope to see you back around the #CampLitsy24 campfire.

Also, join me in wishing a good vacation to Barbara. She may not be in the discussion much because she's flying to Japan! Enjoy it, B!

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Chelsea.Poole I had a difficult time grasping her sexuality…in the beginning she is all about Davey and married to Harris. In her fantasies often she takes on male personas. She also remembers that people often assume she‘s romantically involved with her female friend but scoffs at that. Then she has encounters with women—is it that she‘s allowing her true self to come forward? I have more questions about her sexuality than answers. Maybe that‘s the point? 5d
Meshell1313 Oh I totally think she‘s been repressing her truth (attracted to women?) in exchange for what she sees as the perfect family. And that‘s not working for her. She needs to find and live her truth no matter what that looks like because as we keep seeing in the book the alternative leads to depression and even worse things. That‘s the message I‘m really getting about all women- repression must be rebelled against. 5d
sarahbarnes I actually don‘t think she‘s specifically repressing feelings for other women - I think she‘s repressing many things as a mid-40s married woman with a child. To me she hasn‘t denied or repressed her queerness (and identifying as queer can mean actually rejecting a specific label on your sexual identity) by being in her marriage, but she is feeling unfulfilled and stuck in a more general sense. 5d
GatheringBooks Great Qs throughout - thank you. I am not sure if it was repression as much as feeling “unfulfilled and stuck in a more general sense” as @sarahbarnes has beautifully captured it. I didn‘t feel the repression of sexuality - more like a feeling of confinement for a life and a home that she just happened to be in at present, and the ache for moments of aliveness and the quickening of the pulse brought about by something real and true - and beautiful 5d
sarahbarnes @GatheringBooks agreed - very well-put. “A feeling of confinement.” 5d
TheBookHippie I think she feels trapped. I also think she isn‘t being true to whatever or whoever she wants to be. 5d
TheKidUpstairs @sarahbarnes I agree that she's repressing so much of herself in a fairly conventional marriage. I think if she had been born 15 years later she likely wouldn't have ended up in a traditional marriage at all. It's not so much her sexuality as not knowing she could have given herself the space to live a different kind of life. I love how she seems to be fiercely protecting Sam's knowledge that they can create their own life. 5d
Kitta I was actually really unhappy with how the book dealt with this. Describing her urges as lesbianish kind of erases bi and pan people. Anyone can identify however they want but this specific wording bothered me. You don‘t turn on and off being a lesbian. It also plays into the (unfortunate and untrue) stereotype that bisexual people are more likely to cheat, which wasn‘t okay with me. I expected more from a queer author. 5d
Kitta She‘s definitely repressing a lot more of herself than just her sexuality with Harris. It sounds like she‘d not even attracted to him, just that she‘s settled into a relationship with him and it‘s easier to stay. Safe, secure, but monotonous. I don‘t think she wants to leave him but she‘s definitely only herself with her friend Jodie. Even the food they eat seems tightly controlled until she sneaks out for junk food with her friend. 5d
Leniverse So far this whole book has been a series of WTF moments for me. I can't get a grasp on the MC, her sexuality, or her relationship with her husband. Everything she says and does seems like a manic performance, even in her own mind she puts on an act. She's a mid-40s woman with a fluid-ish sexuality who feels trapped in/alienated from her own life. Hey, I just described myself! And yet I can't connect with her at all, zero points of identification. 5d
sarahbarnes @TheKidUpstairs I also like the way she approaches parenting in that way. And I agree that she‘s finding that she wants to be able to live a different life and have more space (in a number of ways) than her marriage is currently giving her. 5d
RaeLovesToRead 1/? I actually completely disagree with the statement. I don't think she represses her sexuality at all. She's attracted to and has had relationships with both men and women and seems at peace with that. The assumption conflates sexual identity with sexual behaviour. If a person chooses a monogamous relationship, it will naturally curb exploratory sexual behaviour because fidelity is expected... 5d
RaeLovesToRead 2/? In the case of our MC, she feels stifled behaviourally by monogamous marriage to a person who is more of an ally than a romantic partner. It is completely possible for a person of bisexual orientation to be satisfied in a FIERCELY MONOGAMOUS ROMANTIC PARTNERING 5d
CarolynM I would have liked to understand why she chose to marry Harris in the first place, and why the only things of hers in the house were the spoons. He didn‘t strike me as the kind of person who would want her not to express herself. Totally agree with @Leniverse about her putting on an act, but why was she doing it? (edited) 5d
RaeLovesToRead 3/? This does not in any way rob them of their queer identity. Any monogamous relationship, however, will alter sexual expression and behaviour and it's not for everyone. I have the benefit of having read the rest of this book, and it is a brilliant exploration of relationship dynamics and balance of needs of the individual vs a relationship. 5d
RaeLovesToRead 4/4 This is not a case of identity being suppressed, but of a marriage no longer being serviceable to both parties. 5d
AmyG My thoughts when reading was that she was sort of going through a journey (not unlike a teen/young adult would do) to discover her sexuality. She has always done what she felt she should do and maybe one of those things was marrying, having sex, with men. Now she feels free to discover who she is. @BarbaraBB Have a wonderful vacation. japan sound wonderful! 5d
CarolynM @RaeLovesToRead Yes! Identity vs expression/behaviour. But why promise fidelity if what you want is freedom? 5d
TheBookHippie @Kitta lots of heterosexual troupes in this read. Not a fan. 5d
TheBookHippie @RaeLovesToRead 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 the marriage is not serving both parties, and hasn‘t evolved with its participants. 5d
RaeLovesToRead @CarolynM Society's expectations? Change of desires over time? I think people are generally becoming more accepting of non-traditional setups in relationships nowadays. I'm sure her behaviour will divide opinion. Whether or not she felt repressed, she behaves in a way that is deceitful, unfaithful, selfish and hurtful. It makes a good story, but if someone behaved like her irl I wouldn't be on their side. 5d
RaeLovesToRead (She's perfectly entitled to leave her marriage, but the way she goes about things is not really on) 5d
RaeLovesToRead @TheBookHippie 💯 I finished the book a while ago so I know how things play out ultimately. I do have a problem with the stereotype that bisexual people can't be happy in monogamous relationships, which is why I take exception to the notion that she's repressing her identity. But in this character's case, sexual freedom is more important to her than security and exclusivity. 5d
Larkken I got the feeling that she was trying not to hurt Harris by leaning into relationships with women instead of men after she made their marriage implode. So I don‘t know that I felt like she was repressing her queer sexuality ever so much as she is only in one relationship at a time, and none of them get all of her (sexuality, person, art) bc that‘s just how life is when someone else doesn‘t live in your head. 5d
Larkken But yes, I agree with y‘all that the marriage is no longer working. I think they could have made it work, and that she is sad and envious of other relationships, but that leaving it would also be healthy (edited) 5d
Larkken @RaeLovesToRead yes! Exactly. 5d
ImperfectCJ I hope this makes sense as I'm commenting with covid brain (and perimenopause), but I have the feeling that she's repressing everything about herself. She's in this pattern of trying to protect herself by conforming to what others want her to be/do, but she's never learned to communicate directly (quite the opposite) and so just intimates what they might want and then holds her breath. Her sexuality is the one way she knows to express herself 5d
ImperfectCJ Sure, she's an artist, but she seems surprised by and disconnected from that, too, so I don't know if it feels to her like self expression 5d
TheKidUpstairs @Leniverse I agree with what you said about performance. She seems to be even performing a midlife crisis. I don't think she knows how to look at herself without being her own audience. I think I like how completely unrelatable she is as a character, I don't think July set out to write any sort of universal experience. I would find her unsufferable as a person, but as a character I'm fascinated. 5d
DGRachel @RaeLovesToRead I completely agree with your note about her behavior being deceitful, selfish, unfaithful, and hurtful. That‘s where she lost me. There are very few situations in my life where I feel brave or confident enough to speak up for myself, but I am not deceitful. I find everything about her behavior reprehensible. 5d
RaeLovesToRead @DGRachel @TheBookHippie The MC is the polar opposite of me (at least morally). I value honesty, trust, directness, openness, communication, kindness, efforts to preserve the feelings / dignity of others... recognising one's own needs is super-important, but it's not OK to trample all over someone else in order to get there. 5d
RaeLovesToRead (She is about 400x more interesting to read about though 😄) 5d
TheBookHippie @RaeLovesToRead I wish I found her interesting I could have finished the book 🤣😝😬. 5d
Deblovestoread @RaeLovesToRead 💯 I find her choices to be reprehensible so have suspended judgement to allow me to continue to read. 5d
JenReadsAlot @TheBookHippie I finished but agree I didn't find her interesting! Just annoying! 5d
Megabooks @TheKidUpstairs I agree it is a bit of a generational thing. Gen Xers like me, I think, were sold a bill that's it's either crazy commune life or upright married couple. I'm glad there are more variations between now. And @kitta I didn't particularly like the bi/pan erasure either. I think that could also be a generational thing. Sexuality was so much more rigid when I was younger, but could she evolve? Yes, absolutely. 5d
Megabooks @RaeLovesToRead I understand that in her head and with certain friends she's very very queer (as is the case for many folks in straight-appearing relationships). I guess what I was going for in the question was all those ways she doesn't express that life to Harris - how she hid her burlesque past and hid her still strong attraction towards women from him. (edited) 5d
Megabooks @ImperfectCJ Yes, sometimes I felt like she was holding so much in that it was a dam that was bound to burst. 5d
RaeLovesToRead @TheBookHippie @Deblovestoread @JenReadsAlot Yeah, I meant more interesting than ME! Lol. I'm not going on any sexy road trips any time soon 🤣🤣 5d
RaeLovesToRead @Megabooks She's with the wrong person through and through 5d
TheBookHippie @RaeLovesToRead I go on sexy road trips with Mr BookHippie -so that probs doesn‘t count 🫣😅💕🤣. 5d
RaeLovesToRead @TheBookHippie Haha awww! That's cute! 5d
Megabooks @RaeLovesToRead 💯💯 I‘m really curious what people will say next week about how things turn out. 🤫🤔 5d
RaeLovesToRead This book spun me in so many different directions it was like a washing machine. But like... not a clean one haha 5d
TheBookHippie @Megabooks as an eldest Gen X I think it‘s in your upbringing and exposure/set of tenants and beliefs one is taught. We never didn‘t think sexuality was fluid and there are all types of families and couples. That being said I know a lot of women my age who think they were sold a bill of goods. (Growing up I was with Hippies or my Bubbe who was a staunch feminist-plot twist my parents turned to alt right religious evangelicals in my teens😵‍💫) 5d
Roary47 @Leniverse I agree with your response. I also find myself like 😳. The moment with Davey relieving himself… umm. I‘m not sure what her sexuality is, but I did notice a they/them applied to Sam at least once. I don‘t feel she is repressing or ashamed of anything except her marriage. @RaeLovesToRead I agree the marriage is not benefiting both parties. She even mentioned she going to have to owe him sex… umm what?! 🤯 I‘m lost. 😅 5d
youneverarrived That‘s how I see it too @sarahbarnes 5d
squirrelbrain I agree @JenReadsAlot - with so much going on, the MC was weirdly vacuous and uninteresting. 5d
Hooked_on_books The reason I didn‘t like this book is that it felt to me that all it wanted to talk about was sex and everything else was just a tacked-on, unexplored checklist. Queerness, check! Reno of a hotel room, check! Ungendered child, check! There could have been so much depth here but it just read to me as shallow. 5d
Megabooks @TheBookHippie I think it's a good point that it depends on your upbringing/influence. I do think the idea of being queer in any way wasn't expressed in mainstream culture. You didn't turn on network TV and see the representation you see in media now. Pedro was a big deal. Ellen was a big deal. I think it's so much easier to see that representation and make the decision to openly express yourself. 5d
Megabooks @TheBookHippie That being said, I am not out to everyone in my large Kentucky town. But at least I can interact with other queer people in my community and online, and it was so much harder to find that in the past. 5d
TheBookHippie @Megabooks I was an adult a long time when Pedro was on the TV 🙃 My growing up years & college we had dance clubs, but most of those friends we lost to AIDS, I think it just depends where you live and what your exposed to. Queer people have always been around and if you look closely you can see them in culture. Maude in 70s Golden Girls 80s was revolutionary -being out is hopefully easier now🤞🏻and hopefully represented more in the main media. 5d
squirrelbrain Interesting point @Larkken but I wonder if she even cares enough for Harris in that way to not want to hurt him? 5d
squirrelbrain Yes, I agree @Hooked_on_books - I thought that Sam being ungendered could have been explored a bit more. Although maybe that‘s my naivety in such topics and the author was just ‘normalising‘ the subject by including it but not highlighting it. 5d
Hooked_on_books @squirrelbrain Normalizing may have been her goal, but she didn‘t succeed. I felt she was forceful and repetitive in bringing up the topic, but that was it. Disappointing. 4d
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Megabooks
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Crazy for Davey...question 2! #CampLitsy24

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Chelsea.Poole Super into Davey! He was the first person she encountered outside her normal life, and she thinks he doesn‘t know who she is. Maybe that was a part of her original attraction to him. Ps—my husband‘s name is Dave, should I start calling him Davey? 😂 5d
Meshell1313 Oh Davey. Perhaps as we get older it‘s still exciting when someone new notices you and likes what they see. 🤣 So thrilling. Mostly I thought it was just a break from her life and a chance for her to live out her youth a little bit. (edited) 5d
sarahbarnes I agree - I think it‘s his youth and that she perceives him to be uncomplicated at first. And there‘s clearly an instant chemistry of some kind between them, from both sides. 5d
GatheringBooks I think it‘s beauty. She is an artist, after all. And aren‘t we all just in search of the beautiful, the ephemeral, the fleeting? And a genuine connection - i honestly don‘t know about the nature of their connection but what is palpable is the thirst for beauty. And maybe for davey it was fascination for someone famous, older, and the unfamiliar? Like she is what he could have been if he had stuck with his artform/dance? 5d
GatheringBooks @Chelsea.Poole that is super cute! We are rooting for you whether davey or dave! 💕💕💕 5d
TheBookHippie She‘s trying to be anonymous would be my guess and that can be intoxicating. 5d
Suet624 @GatheringBooks I love this response about the thirst for beauty. 5d
Suet624 When I went through menopause there was a brief period where I felt like I was going through puberty. Just being near someone who was remotely attractive and somewhat interested in me would set me off emotionally and physically. Nerve endings were jumping all over the place. It was overwhelming and reminded me of all those unpleasant hormonal times prior to menopause. That's all I could think of when I read about her reaction to Davey. 5d
TheKidUpstairs @Suet624 that makes a lot of sense. And paired with the fact that she didn't know she was in perimenopause at the time, that kind of attraction could feel like some type of crazy soul connection. I think a lot comes back to just how disconnected she was from any sense of herself in her day to day life. So that sort of connection was extra electric. 5d
Suet624 @TheKidUpstairs yes, exactly. 5d
Kitta I love what @GatheringBooks said about thirst for beauty. It‘s interesting she keeps saying she wouldn‘t normally be attracted to him though. That her friends would laugh if they knew what she felt and what he looked like. I don‘t picture him as beautiful in the conventional sense, but maybe he has a good body? Or maybe he‘s unconventionally attractive? We can‘t control who we fall for. 5d
GatheringBooks @Kitta i based his supposed beauty on the main character‘s encounter with davey‘s mother which frankly made me roll over with laughter. Plus apparently he is a gifted dancer. 💕 5d
Leniverse I don't know... She really seems like a caricature. Like... Manic Pixie Dream Girl grew up to become a Wine Mum. Except she's *so* insecure. She can't believe that a younger guy can find her attractive and she fixates on him. I'm about her age, and do I wish I was as fit as in my 20s or 30s? Sure. But the best thing about getting older is that I've run out of Fs to give. Not that I had that many to begin with, so I guess I'm just a different type 5d
CarolynM I think the fact he said he was a fan of her work and she felt superior to him because he wasn‘t an “artist” although he was trying to be one made him attractive. I think she was struggling with her husband‘s seriousness about his work and with his working relationship with a talented young woman. An unthreatening young man was a way of competing with that. 5d
AmyG With Davey she could be anyone she wanted to be. She didn‘t have to play a role. Yes to what @TheBookHippie said. And @Suet624 probably hormones all over the place! And she found him beautiful….I would say that is the beauty of youth….her last grasp at youth, maybe unconsciously knowing what is ahead of her. 5d
RaeLovesToRead It is a case of pure animal attraction 5d
RaeLovesToRead Of discovering a body-centred desire after a lifetime of experiencing it in a more mind-rooted way. She is fully cognisant of the situation, but is completely hijacked by sexual desire 5d
TheBookHippie @Leniverse SAME. Although I loved my 40s -shhh don‘t tell anyone. I too would like my 28 yr old body. However I do NOT want to be 28 🤣😵‍💫. I‘ve never had Fs to give I‘m thinking that‘s the difference … 5d
Leniverse @RaeLovesToRead Good analysis. Body centred Vs mind centred. I forgot that she ruminated about what she finds attractive. 5d
Larkken @GatheringBooks love this. I think it is possible to crush on someone for something other than their body. Though she does have some very body-based … fantasies? About him. 5d
ImperfectCJ I wonder if it's related to the fact that every connection in her life---with her husband, her parents, her fans and fellow artists---feels conditional, and Davey seems to be offering her an admiration that feels pure and unrestrained. She's never learned how to have intimacy that isn't sexual, so this is how it manifests itself 5d
Christine Loving these convos (as always)! Though I was content to DNF this at around 30%, I‘m wondering if she unpacked or further analyzed the fact that Davey knew who she was/was a fan from the start? She hadn‘t much at the point where I stopped. 5d
Roary47 I like what @GatheringBooks said. It‘s seems that mostly it is about the dancing and just living as if she was young again. At first she thought that Davey didn‘t know who she was so I agree with @TheBookHippie on being anonymous. I appreciate the input you provided @Suet624 it helps me sort of sympathize with her. 5d
Megabooks @Meshell1313 Yes, I enjoy when someone notices me, and I'm not just that middle aged lady at the grocery store or wherever! 5d
Megabooks @Suet624 This very same thing is happening to me, and I feel like I'm losing my mind some days. This is why I picked this book for my month! When I finally read the hormonal reason it happens in The New Menopause, I felt a little less crazy. 😂 5d
Megabooks @CarolynM I remember it being a more awkward thing when she found out he was a fan, but maybe I'm remembering it wrong. She thought Davey was attracted to her for being herself, but he turned out to be just another fan. She followed through with trying to seduce him, but I think she would've preferred to continue to be anonymous. 5d
Suet624 @Megabooks out of curiosity, what do they say is the hormonal reason? (Although I can probably guess.) 5d
Megabooks @Suet624 Apparently the people who feel more sexual at perimenopause have androgen production from their adrenal glands but no longer have the estrogen production from their ovaries to compensate for it. I can't remember if the androgen production has risen in this situation or if it's just pure lack of opposition. I'd have to check the book, but it's the first place I've read any explanation of this craziness! 5d
Megabooks @Suet624 And by androgens I mean hormones like testosterone. And some days I swear I feel like I'm in 10th grade again. It's so weird. 5d
youneverarrived I love all the different interpretations! That makes a lot of sense @Suet624. The fact he‘s attracted to her too fuels her feelings even more I think in the way she was constantly thinking about him/craving his attention. It felt like pure desire but I also think their relationship was about her experiencing intimacy in ways she maybe had wanted to express before but wasn‘t able to. 5d
Hooked_on_books It‘s none of the above. It‘s about tampons. And urine. 🤮 5d
Hooked_on_books @Leniverse Three hurrahs to no fucks to give! This is my favorite part about aging. I so wish I could have been like this in my 20s! 😂 5d
squirrelbrain Lol @Hooked_on_books - coming to this late as I‘ve been out all day and your comment made me laugh out loud! 5d
TrishB @squirrelbrain @Hooked_on_books me too! Best quote of the day. 5d
peaKnit @Suet624 @Megabooks Gosh, I‘m so there with you, some days are crazy hormonally, I just had a weird resurgence of my period after over a year, all the fun things they medical folks do😱 but the resurgence of hormones was actually strangely delightful. I booked an HRT appt! lol. I think she was very taken by Dave‘s because he made her feel seen in her mind. Truly, I‘m not sure what he was actually feeling…I think the money confused things. 5d
Bookwormjillk @CarolynM I agree that she liked that he knew who she was. She also had that superiority complex where she thought that his job was to wash windshields but he actually worked for a rental place. She was so dismissive like all car jobs are the same. 5d
Suet624 @Megabooks that‘s interesting about the reason behind it. I remember the 10th grade feeling. So intense and so weird. 5d
Megabooks @peaKnit I kept trying to find an explanation because every place said, you may feel more sexual if you are in a new relationship. Nope, internet. Just happened out of the blue! One day I felt like a “normal“ perimenopausal woman. The next day I was 15 again. It was totally jarring. I'm considering HRT for the night sweats and brain fog, but I'm trying to work out that with treating my MCAS first. 5d
Megabooks @Suet624 @peaknit I think that was part of the draw of putting this book in my month because of that morning I woke up and felt like I was in some sort of menopausal body switch movie! 😂 😂 5d
CBee Sorry y‘all, I stopped reading 😳 I just didn‘t have the urge to get back to it and when I did, I felt all cringey 😂 @Megabooks @BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain 4d
BarbaraBB Another great discussion. Yes @suet624 @GatheringBooks @Chelsea.Poole @Meshell1313 @megabooks I agree with you it‘s about beauty and being seen. And it‘s so recognizable. Let‘s admit it I think the dancing instead of sex was super sexy and something that would make me feel so beautiful and ‘seen‘. There have been moments in my life I‘d have killed for a Davey! (edited) 4d
Suet624 @BarbaraBB right there with you. 3d
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Megabooks
All Fours | Miranda July
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Wow, this book received a lot of mixed reviews from #CampLitsy24 readers! Looking forward to seeing where this discussion takes us.

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Chelsea.Poole I wondered this myself and I‘m really not sure why she redecorated that motel room! Was it to leave her mark somewhere? Although, she‘s already pretty famous for her creations and work… and then she hired someone else to do the work, so I suppose it‘s not even her own “mark” she‘s leaving. 5d
Suet624 Do I remember correctly that her husband decorated the home in his style and she didn‘t feel free or was told not to change anything? Or was that just in my own life? Anyway, I think she just wanted something of her own that was lush and inspired. 5d
Meshell1313 I agree that it seems like she wanted something that was just hers. In her own life she has to follow the norm and this was her chance to color outside the lines for a change. A great metaphor really. (edited) 5d
sarahbarnes I agree with @Suet624 that I think she‘s trying to create space for herself, literally and figuratively, in the room. She headed off on the trip on the first place to have some space, but it seems like the trip to NY wasn‘t going to actually address the thing she‘s feeling like she needs to address. And I think she‘s trying to do that through the hotel room. 5d
GatheringBooks Yes, you remembered correctly, @Suet624 - her only contribution to her husband‘s home is the ten spoons and the two lions. I thought it was her sanctuary of sorts - indulgent be damned. Talk about midlife crisis. I found myself laughing out loud at the very idea of spending 20k for something you won‘t own. This nearly made me bail - because too privileged for my taste - but i surprised myself by reading through it. (edited) 5d
TrishB @GatheringBooks I did bail at that point because of the privilege aspect. Are we supposed to feel sorry for her because she couldn‘t make any contribution to the marital home? But then have 20k to decorate a hotel room. 5d
TheBookHippie @TrishB The privilege and entitlement made me about puke. 5d
Suet624 @TrishB I thought in her world that $20K was “found“ money and she didn't seem attached to it. We already knew she was rich. I lived for decades in a situation where I had money but was not allowed to contribute anything to the way the house looked. All I left with were books that I had had to put out of sight while I lived there. I suggested an apartment of my own but that didn't transpire due to wanting to keep the kids happy.
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Suet624 (cont) So I could relate to her situation in that regard.. :) (edited) 5d
sarahbarnes I don‘t disagree on the privilege piece. But, that $20k came as a royalty on a specific piece of her art. I get the sense it was a one-time thing and not the norm in her life. Hence why everyone was encouraging her to use it on a crazy trip to NY. But I think she rejects the conventionality of that choice for something that no one could ever understand. I also think it‘s telling that she paid someone else - Davey‘s partner - to do that for her. 5d
sarahbarnes So she didn‘t entirely give the money away but she wasn‘t the only one who benefitted from it. @GatheringBooks @TrishB @TheBookHippie 5d
TrishB I think you either like the MC or don‘t in this book! @Suet624 @sarahbarnes @TheBookHippie @GatheringBooks 5d
TheBookHippie @sarahbarnes she in and of herself Too privileged for me to read, actions aside. 5d
TheBookHippie @Suet624 it was her, not her actions. 5d
sarahbarnes @TrishB fair point! 😁 5d
TheKidUpstairs I agree with the idea that she was liking to create a room of her own. And as @sarahbarnes pointed out, she had already tried to give away the 20K. But her people all encouraged her to spoil herself with it, and I think she had gotten so far away from knowing herself that she didn't know how to do that. And the last time she felt spoiled and luxurious was the hotel room in Paris, so she created a space that gave her that feeling. 5d
Kitta @TrishB agreed and I‘m in the latter camp. I don‘t identify with her at all. Maybe because I‘m a driver not a Parker? Idk it seems crazy to me not to follow through with plans I made with people, just cancel everything and stay in a motel. Kinda rude? Also… If I wanted to do that I just would and not lie about it? I feel really bad for her husband and like this won‘t end well. 5d
Leniverse I mean... is she really not allowed to change/add anything in her home because it is her husband's house, or does she just not have the confidence to do it? I find it hard to get a read on the husband and their relationship because she's a fairly unreliable and mega bloody weird narrator. Also, she's been working in the garage for years and hasn't even fixed her wobbly desk. Surely she could do anything she wanted in there 🤷🏻‍♀️ 5d
TrishB @Kitta yeah, I couldn‘t see why she didn‘t just say I want a break. But I guess the book wouldn‘t be as ‘interesting‘ or radical then if it was real. 5d
TrishB @Leniverse good points! 5d
TheBookHippie @Leniverse 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 5d
JenReadsAlot I just don't get her thought process at all 😂 5d
Kitta @Leniverse oh I missed the point about the wobbly desk, must have skimmed that part lol. But she definitely could just decorate in there! I agree. Why decorate a motel of all things? Unless the impermanence and secrecy was the point? She wants something separate from her “real” life. 5d
CarolynM I didn‘t get this at all. I agree with the points @Kitta and @Leniverse made. I really didn‘t get why she was so convinced her husband didn‘t know the the “real” her. I could only assume she had been dishonest with him throughout their relationship. (edited) 5d
sarahbarnes @TheKidUpstairs I like the room of one‘s own analogy and agree that she is thinking back to that place in Paris as an anchor point in her current feeling of being lost, and trying to come back to herself. 5d
Leniverse She and her husband have this salute thing that they do, and various couple things, but she is almost glamourising the trauma of Sam's birth because they have never been closer. And she's waiting for the time when he will truly know her. They have spectacular sex, but it still feels like a chore. He's having an affair (maybe?) with his assistant, but she's not threatened by that at all. Idk, she seems in denial about everything. 5d
AmyG I agree with alot of you. She had been the wife, the mother….doing everything for everyone but herself….living in a home decorated by her husband. For those thinking she didn‘t she speak up, decorate her home the way she wanted…..this story is a metaphor. It‘s making the point of a woman coming into her own from perimenopause to post menopause. Alot of this book makes not alot of sense or is a bit absurd but that‘s just the weirdness of it. 5d
AmyG As for him “not knowing her”….I think that is valid and not uncommon. I am sure many, many wives play the role of wife, mother…with inner thoughts and feelings that no one knows. 5d
RaeLovesToRead My reaction to this was "the heck is she doing?" ??? 5d
youneverarrived I didn‘t really get why she wanted to decorate a hotel room but as you get to know the character and with the whole book in mind I think it‘s a place where she can be a bit more free in who she is, explore desires etc - @AmyG I completely agree with you - that‘s how I read it too 5d
TheBookHippie @AmyG I agree it‘s a metaphor. I just personally find it a bad one and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I do not like how it is portraying women in general. Also why I don‘t read this type book normally 🤣🤣🤣🫣😬😝 5d
Larkken I was torn by this mc. Like, I wanted to be on board with a woman having a messy midlife crisis for a change but I agree that her situation and privilege made it unrelatable. Or maybe the privilege was so that it could be so out there and unhinged? I found myself skimming because as much as I found the mcs thoughts interesting all the things she did were also intensely irritating. 5d
Roary47 I agree with @TrishB this is a love or hate main character. I get wanting something that is hers, but the hotel room isn‘t hers either. I agree with a lot of you that the privilege. I also feel bad for her husband like @Kitta stated. I also don‘t understand why she can‘t change anything @Leniverse 5d
AmyG @TheBookHippie Ha! Either it works for the reader or it doesn‘t. I kind of enjoy the wackiness of her books. 🤣 5d
Roary47 @AmyG maybe the problem is I‘m not there quite yet so I‘m not relating to her at all. I agree @TheBookHippie even as a metaphor this is painting a bad light for women. Saying: “It‘s the menopause that made me do it” doesn‘t sit right with me. 5d
TheBookHippie @Larkken I think shes the goes to Bookclub drinks the wine never reads the book and talks about how much she hates her husband and her life type person 😵‍💫🤣😬😝🫣🤣😂😅 5d
TheBookHippie @Roary47 EXACTLY. It‘s her. Not menopause. 5d
DGRachel I think a lot of how you look at this book, the MC, and her actions including the bizarre decorating of a hotel room, depends on whether you can identify with her on any level. Other than being in perimenopause myself, I can find no common ground, and I find most of her actions abhorrent. I bailed after the first masturbatory Davey fantasy scene. 5d
DGRachel But as for the question - I definitely felt it was bizarre. Not only that she wanted to redecorate, but that no one in the hotel actually stopped her. I cannot imagine any hotel that would let someone continue to extend their stay and completely renovate/redecorate one room. 5d
ChaoticMissAdventures @AmyG I am glad I am not the only one! I like the wackiness. I don't think one bad acting woman blaming menopause is represented if all ladies, she is just having her own particular (privileged) break down and I am having fun seeing how far July is taking things. 5d
TrishB Lots of interesting thoughts! I‘m with @TheBookHippie I know it‘s a metaphor, but a damaging one that‘s gaining traction- oh ok it‘s the menopause- let all deranged oppressed women free!! And I‘m an outright feminist. If she wanted people to discuss this book she won!! 5d
Megabooks Like @suet264 I live in a house I don't have much say over, and it's very frustrating. I feel unmoored at times. I get why it smacks of privilege, but she hired Claire for the amount she'd need to get IVF, so I guess that's a bit more altruistic way to use the royalty windfall than hiring a random person. I think she needed to feel grounded and the hotel room allowed her that. 5d
TheBookHippie @TrishB 🎯🎯🎯🎯 5d
Larkken @TrishB that‘s fair. I guess I‘m here for the messy lady protagonist (we don‘t have to be perfect to sell a book! I read Big Swede! Go US!) but! My fav parts of this book were when she did the survey of postmenopausal ladies (so, not the mc 🤣) or the birth story which I found personally relatable. Everything else was a bit overly deranged I agree. 5d
Larkken @TheBookHippie oh man. Yes, I want to think that I have space for friends like her but you‘re right. They‘re just a drain on resources 🫗😂 5d
TrishB @Larkken I didn‘t get to the survey- I‘d given up by then! 5d
AmyG @Roary47 I think it‘s more of a her + menopause….hormones exasperated what might have happened anyway. I don‘t think menopause can make someone behave like her BUT I have heard of menopause messing up the mental state of a few people I know. 5d
Roary47 @AmyG All I remember was being a teen when my mom went through it. My poor dad… 🤣 Hormone changes, yelling, new hinges on doors… no wonder he had two jobs. 🤪 5d
TheBookHippie @Larkken You‘re a better person than me -I cannot do it. 🤣😵‍💫🫣😅 5d
Hooked_on_books I didn‘t relate to this MC at all but found the turning back to this hotel, only 30 minutes from home, and spending this money on a reno, a very interesting plot point. I feel like she‘s trying to create a fantasy. She‘s a bit at loose ends and seems to want to burrow into something different. I wanted to see this explored more, but it felt checked off so that the book could delve into sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex. 5d
Hooked_on_books @TheBookHippie @Roary47 @TrishB I completely agree about this painting women in a bad light. Like Trish says, I‘m a total feminist, and a book, especially one written by a woman, doing this makes me so mad. 5d
TheBookHippie @Hooked_on_books 🎯🎯🎯🎯 5d
squirrelbrain @kitta @leniverse @CarolynM - I agree - the relationship with her husband was so unclear, and I can‘t imagine she didn‘t re-decorate their shared house because she was submissive- she was so bolshy in all other relationships. 5d
squirrelbrain @DGRachel - I *so* couldn‘t identify with her at all. Like @TrishB commented, I thought she was over-privileged and whiny and self-obsessed. 5d
kspenmoll I bailed! Couldn‘t keep reading it! 🙄 5d
peaKnit I was hoping to relate, just in the throes of menopause but man, not at all. Her weird entitlement and privilege was very hate-able. The room was so strange, and that the hotel let her, the guy she met at the gas station - his wife decorated (this felt Highschool in a sense to me) it was bizarre to say the least. (edited) 5d
Bookwormjillk Late to camp today. I‘m not really sure what this lady was thinking but it seemed to me that she was trying to give Davey the money and insert herself in his life and this was the only way she knew how. 5d
squirrelbrain @peaKnit - it did feel quite childish in a way didn‘t it? But then, I thought the MC was a complete sulky teen (apart from the sex stuff! 😱) who craved attention and acted out when she didn‘t get it. 5d
peaKnit @squirrelbrain I could not agree more. @Bookwormjillk I agree with this also, she seemed so desperate for a foothold. 4d
BarbaraBB Oh how I adore you all. This discussion is really awesome. I notice myself agreeing with almost anything that‘s been said, either against or in favor of the narrator. 4d
Megabooks @BarbaraBB Glad you've been able to take a peek! 💜 4d
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CarolynM
All Fours | Miranda July
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Ugh!

I‘m retitling this one Diary of a Narcissist. What an insufferable, self obsessed pain in the neck she was from beginning to end. Maybe I‘m missing something, but most of her inner monologue seemed to me to be just a load of pretentious twaddle.

I‘m looking forward to the discussion.

#CampLitsy24

dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 6d
Ruthiella Great review! 😂👏👏👏 6d
squirrelbrain Love it! ❤️🤪 6d
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BarbaraBB Love your review 🤣🤣 6d
TrishB Yes, all of those words! 6d
TheBookHippie Narcissistic garbage 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😵‍💫😵‍💫 5d
Centique I love that i can confidently remove this from my stacked list now! 😂 5d
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MicheleinPhilly
All Fours | Miranda July
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It‘s a trainwreck I can‘t look away from. #CampLitsy24

Bookwormjillk Right??? 6d
kbuggle Yeeeep 6d
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kspenmoll Yes! This made me laugh! I am still reading it but have to take breaks! 6d
Leftcoastzen 😂 6d
CarolynM Perfect! 6d
Kitta Omg yes 6d
TrishB Absolutely! 5d
Caroline2 Me too!! 😂 total train wreck but I couldn‘t look away!!! 👀 4d
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TheKidUpstairs
All Fours | Miranda July
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“...maybe midlife crises were just poorly marketed, maybe each one was profound and unique and it was only a few silly men in red convertibles who gave them a bad name.“

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Leniverse
All Fours | Miranda July
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Wth?! I'm five pages into this book the narrator seems almost manically weird. And that's saying something considering I'm also 500 pages into the ditzy word association game that is Ducks, Newburyport.

AmyG Oh she is weird. 7d
BarbaraJean Sentences I have never used (and never anticipate needing to use): “I sent naked selfies to all my New York friends“ and “It didn't used to be this difficult to get a decent naked selfie.“ 😂 😂 7d
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BarbaraBB I just read an article that sending naked selfies is booming in the Netherlands. To friends indeed. I was as surprised as when I read those sentences. 7d
julesG Thank F! I don't have friends in New York. 😂😂😂 In all honesty, WTF? Is this the new normal? 6d
Laughterhp I started this book yesterday and was very surprised by that sentence as well! 6d
Leniverse @BarbaraBB @julesG The character reads like a total caricature to me. I'm concerned and dismayed that naked friend selfies seem to actually be a thing! At least in the Netherlands 😅 6d
Leniverse @Laughterhp It's not like it got any less surprising in the next paragraph 🤨 😂 6d
Leniverse @AmyG 😂 So far this book is just one wtf moment after another 6d
BarbaraBB It seems really ridiculous to me, the naked selfies 6d
GatheringBooks How does ducks newburyport compare? I have it sitting in my shelf for the longest time 5d
Leniverse @GatheringBooks Well, All Fours reads *a lot* quicker. Ducks I can only read 10-25 pages at a time before I lose focus. At the same time the MC in All Fours is making the Ducks MC seem well adjusted and likeable, so there's that 😂 5d
Caroline2 Naked selfies to her friends! 😂 who does that?!? 😂 🤦‍♀️ so weird 4d
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ImperfectCJ
All Fours | Miranda July
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Day 3 of fever and fatigue and all the other fun stuff, and I need a change of pace. Which of these would be most likely to grab my wandering attention and divert me enough to forget both the nagging worry that I won't be able to come up with questions for the tagged for #CampToB by August 7 and that I won't be well enough to start teaching my class this coming Monday? Or maybe I should just binge-watch The Simpsons?

ImperfectCJ I also have The God of the Woods, which I bought this past Saturday because I'm incorrigible. 1w
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I hope you feel better soon ❤️‍🩹 1w
Jari-chan Get better soon! 🙏 When I'm sick I can barely read, so I'd binge watch the Simpsons 🤭 1w
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ImperfectCJ @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Thanks! I'm at the grouchy stage, I think. 1w
ImperfectCJ @Jari-chan I like your reasoning. I'm at the stage where I have enough energy to want to do things, but not enough energy to do them for longer than about 10 minutes (at best) 1w
Mimi28 Can‘t go wrong with the Simpsons!! Get some rest also. I hope you feel better soon 🩷😊🫶🏽 1w
dabbe I'd binge watch, too. Keep the mind busy while the body rests and gets better. 🩵💙🩵 1w
Prairiegirl_reading I‘d also binge watch. 7d
Prairiegirl_reading I hope you feel better soon 7d
BarbaraBB Meg has come up with such great questions for #CampLitsy24; they‘ll inspire you for #CampToB! I hope you‘ll feel better soon. 7d
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Suet624
All Fours | Miranda July
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Maybe you‘ve had to have gone or are currently going through perimenopause or menopause to relate to and appreciate this book. The first half of the book was perfect as far as highlighting the particular effects of such. The second half was surely over the top but I know at one point in my life her solution would have been exactly what I wanted. I liked this book a lot and couldn‘t put it down. #CampLitsy24

TheBookHippie Bravo to you! I could not read it. 1w
Suet624 @TheBookHippie apparently it‘s a book you like or seriously dislike. 😊 1w
TheBookHippie @Suet624 I‘ve noticed that 🤣 1w
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Eggbeater In menopause right now. Stacked. 1w
Suet624 @Eggbeater 😳 😳 I hope you like it. :) 1w
dabbe Over menopause thanks to a hysterectomy. Maybe that's why I'm staying away. 😂😂😂 1w
Suet624 @dabbe 😂😂😂 1w
BarbaraBB Of course you loved it too ❤️ Great review!! 7d
Hooked_on_books I‘m in perimenopause and didn‘t relate to it at all. 7d
Suet624 @Hooked_on_books Honestly, I‘m happy for you. Maybe you‘ll get through it all unscathed. ❤️ 6d
Suet624 @BarbaraBB I think you and I have had very similar experiences in our lives. I appreciate knowing you get me. 💕 6d
BarbaraBB I think so too 🤍🤍🤍 6d
Hooked_on_books To me, it‘s not about being unscathed. This book for me was so sex obsessed that it became one-note, stripping away all the other aspects of perimenopause/menopause and diminishing them. I feel like it‘s such rich territory to mine but the author just shrugged it off. That‘s why I didn‘t relate to it. 6d
Suet624 @Hooked_on_books I understand and agree she could have spent less time on the sex. 6d
Caroline2 I loved it too. Yeah there was too much sex stuff but all her insights made up for it for me. And the sex stuff highlighted the changes! I‘m perimenopausal so I was down for the weird and crazy ride. 4d
Suet624 @Caroline2 no matter how many people try to explain the craziness that ensues during peri menopause and menopause it doesn‘t fully capture the experience of going through it. Best wishes to you!! 4d
kspenmoll I just had to bail.🙄 6h
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Megabooks
All Fours | Miranda July
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We are two days out from our first week discussing this very marmite book. If you loved it, hated it, or somewhere between, you are welcome at the discussion! Even if you bailed and have something to say, you are welcome. #CampLitsy24 is a very inclusive space. 💜🏕️

I loved this, though. I enjoy unhinged narrator. Sometimes, as I go through perimenopause, I feel quite unhinged myself; although, I don‘t act out as much as she does. 🫣🤣

AmyG At one point I wasn‘t too sure….but I really loved this one. As someone who went through menopause….I get it. 1w
BarbaraBB I loved it too but we‘re really divided about it at camp. Can‘t wait for the discussion although I‘ll be on the plane for most of Saturday so will tune in as soon as I can! 😘 1w
ChaoticMissAdventures I am starting today and am so excited, I have had friends not on Litsy message me saying "I just read this book it is unhinged have you read it?" ? 1w
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Kitta I‘m so behind on even starting this one 😬 I‘ll see how far I can get by Saturday 1w
squirrelbrain Looking forward to the weekend! 🤪 1w
Caroline2 I loved it too. 👍 4d
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Chelsea.Poole
All Fours | Miranda July
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Wowza, what a wild ride. I read this super quickly, it‘s like a train wreck impossible to look away from, and I had to see how far our menopausal MC would unravel. While I did read chunks of the book, I really enjoyed the audiobook narrated by July herself, which added to my appreciation. This is about a midlife crisis, realizing what‘s important, desire, sexuality, motherhood, and wanting what you can‘t have but having it anyway. #camplitsy24

Meshell1313 Yes! Great train wreck analogy!! Exactly! 😂 Camp Litsy discussion is going to be great! 1w
kspenmoll Just started this- your review is encouraging me to plough on. 1w
Megabooks Glad you enjoyed it! 1w
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BarbaraBB So happy you enjoyed it! Great review! 1w
AmyG Good review….exactly what this was. I enjoyed it, too! 1w
Lesliereadsalot Such a memorable character! Not sure if it‘s in a good way or a bad way. 1w
Suet624 Perfect review. 1w
squirrelbrain Great review Chelsea! I agree @Lesliereadsalot - I can‘t figure out if I loved or hated the MC! 1w
TheKidUpstairs I am about a quarter of the way in, and surprised by how much I'm loving this. I've never really gotten into July's work, and reading the mixed reviews from Campers I was sure this was going to be a bail but I started this morning and can't stop! 7d
peaKnit Train wreck 100% 7d
Caroline2 Brilliant review. I totally agree. 👍 4d
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TheBookHippie
All Fours | Miranda July
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I can‘t do it people I‘M OUT #ALLHAILTHEBAIL 🫣😬😝😵‍💫

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dabbe That's even better! Instead of “All hail, Caesar,“ it's #allhailthebail! 😂😂😂 1w
TheBookHippie @dabbe this book requires it 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 1w
Susanita 😆😆😆Me too! She‘s just…too much! 1w
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willaful I haven't started yet but I feel in my bones I won't make it. 😂 1w
BarbaraJean 😂😂 Posts like these are reassuring me that I made the right decision in turning it back in to the library unread! 1w
BarbaraBB We‘ll have an intimate camp meeting I guess @Megabooks @squirrelbrain 🤣 although I really enjoyed it! (edited) 1w
TrishB @BarbaraBB it‘s made for very strong feelings! 1w
Lesliereadsalot A crazy one for sure! 1w
Megabooks Sorry! You‘re still welcome at the discussion if you have something to say. This is a very marmite book! 1w
TheBookHippie @Megabooks HA. So many things to say. 1w
TheBookHippie @BarbaraBB 🤣🤷🏻‍♀️😵‍💫😬🫠 1w
TheBookHippie @BarbaraJean 😬🫣🫠😂 1w
peaKnit I made it through but barely, it was a struggle. 7d
TheBookHippie @peaKnit I just couldn‘t do it 😝🫣😬😵‍💫 6d
mollyrotondo Is this like The Book of Two Ways? Women leaving their children behind to build relationships with men instead? It sounds like it shares at least that particular problematic message of that Picoult book 😂 5d
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DGRachel
All Fours | Miranda July
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Bailedbailed

Sorry campers, but I‘m out. I made it 1/4 of the way through and even switching to audio is not helping. It‘s so uncomfortable to read and the MC is insufferable. Fingers crossed for the next one. #camplitsy24 #allhailthebail #nope

TheBookHippie I just bailed I cannot .. 1w
dabbe #allhailthebailindeed! I'm not even gonna try! 😂😂😂 1w
BarbaraJean Thank you for reaffirming the decision I made a couple weeks ago to pass on this one!! 1w
TrishB Agreed 👍🏻 1w
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JenReadsAlot
All Fours | Miranda July
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Panpan
dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 1w
JenReadsAlot @dabbe probably should have been #hailthebail 😂 1w
dabbe @JenReadsAlot Either one works for me! 😂😂😂 1w
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TheBookHippie I bailed!!! 🫣😵‍💫 1w
Megabooks Sorry it wasn‘t for you! I hope you‘ll still come to the discussion. All opinions are welcome! 🏕️👍🏻 1w
JenReadsAlot @Megabooks I plan it that's why I stuck with the book! 1w
squirrelbrain It‘s such a polarising book- will make for a great discussion though! 1w
peaKnit I got through it but hated it. If it weren‘t for Camp Litsy…lol 7d
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Laughterhp
All Fours | Miranda July
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#libraryhaul Got the rest of the #camplitsy books for the summer! They‘re all 2 week loans. My librarian recommended I keep them until I finish because my library doesn‘t do fines 😆😆.

I don‘t think I‘m actually going to like the tagged book, based on what I‘ve seen but I‘ll give it a try.

BarbaraJean I love that your librarian recommended keeping them beyond the loan period!! I've done that a couple of times with books I can't renew, because my library doesn't do fines either! It makes me feel less guilty to hear that a librarian recommended that strategy 😆 1w
squirrelbrain Most people seem to either love or hate the tagged book, although I didn‘t have such strong feelings. I kinda liked it (but hated the MC!) 1w
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TrishB
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Bailedbailed

Life‘s too short to be voluntarily annoyed and hate read this any longer.
I loathe this MC.
There should be a sub genre of ‘menopause‘ books- insufferable privileged women spending money to find solutions to their life.
Definitely a lot to discuss here.
#campylitsy24

Ruthiella Love this review! I liked it for what it was. July pushes boundaries, but your assessment is not wrong. 😆 1w
Librarybelle Love this review! One of my favorite bailed reviews I‘ve read! 1w
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squirrelbrain You might still be able to contribute at the weekend! 🤞 If it doesn‘t upset you too much…. 1w
Susanita I‘m hanging in there so far, but yeah she is…a lot. 1w
TrishB @Ruthiella I think it‘s because I don‘t think the boundaries are real. Woman has mid life epiphany needs a lot of sex. 🤷‍♀️ lots to discuss! 1w
TrishB @squirrelbrain I think I have a lot to say! Probably none of it relevant 😁 1w
TrishB @Susanita you‘re very diplomatic 😁 1w
Susanita Actually, I read a few more pages and decided to bail too! 1w
julesG 👏👏👏 1w
dabbe I think I'll skip this one based on this review. #hailthatbail! 🤩🤩🤩 1w
Megabooks I‘d still love to hear your thoughts. Seriously! I love menopause reads, but I can definitely see how they‘re marmite. 1w
BarbaraBB Lots to discuss. I am not a fan of menopause books per se but I liked this one much more than Sandwich, which I know you preferred. I do think J won‘t read the new Lombardo soon, having enough of menopause books for now! 1w
Hooked_on_books I thought the menopause bit had a lot of potential and could be interesting, if the book would stop focusing on sex for two seconds and act like there‘s more to life than that. I don‘t blame you at all for bailing. I probably should have. 1w
Oryx Love this review! I've been so looking forward to seeing the reviews of this come in 1w
DGRachel I could not agree more! I love this review. 1w
TheBookHippie I bailed… I couldn‘t even hate read it 🫣😬😵‍💫😝 1w
TrishB @Megabooks I definitely have plenty of thoughts! 1w
TrishB @BarbaraBB I think I liked Sandwich as there was some humility, normality and humour! But still a bit privileged. I didn‘t find any of those in this one! Like you I may give them a miss for a bit. 1w
TrishB @Hooked_on_books agree. It seems the only ‘solution‘ to the menopause is to throw off the shackles of life and have lots of sex. Hard enough getting the menopause taken seriously as it is. 1w
TrishB @Oryx @DGRachel @TheBookHippie it definitely makes for strong opinions 😁 1w
TrishB @Susanita 👍🏻 1w
Caroline2 “Voluntarily annoyed” love that expression Trish!! Yep, life is defo too short to spend with books that wind you up!! ? for me, the real privilege came later when she‘s all blasé about her annual gynaecologist appt who then just did a hormone test and got her on hrt like it was nothing. Cor, can you imagine that in this country!???? 4d
TrishB @Caroline2 getting the app would be one battle, being taken seriously would be a step too far! Fantasy. 4d
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BarbaraBB
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Pickpick

This is a marmite kind of book I think. And I loved it.
The narrator is a woman exploring life, motherhood and marriage. Initially implicit, later more explicit when menopause (again - it‘s everywhere these days!) roars its head. What to do with the second half of her life? It‘s about sex and love (I loved her relationship with both Harris and Davey), queerness and art, about birth (Sam) and rebirth (the narrator). A #CampLitsy24 winner for me.

Ruthiella Fantastic review! 😃 2w
Cathythoughts Great review! It sounds a marmite alright… I‘ll try a sample on kindle I think 👍🏻❤️ 2w
AmyG It‘s a wild story and one I can‘t put down. Great review…either you will love it or hate it. (edited) 2w
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squirrelbrain Great review! @Cathythoughts - I get the feeling you‘ll like it. 🤪 2w
Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain You havnt put me wrong yet Helen ! I‘m eager to try a sample now 👍🏻❤️ 2w
sarahbarnes Ahh so glad to see you loved it too! Agreed - a marmite book indeed. 2w
youneverarrived Brilliant review. I feel the same 🤍 (edited) 2w
CarolynM Yes, marmite, and I‘m in the hate it camp. I haven‘t quite finished yet but I don‘t think I‘m going to change my mind. 2w
BarbaraBB @CarolynM Lol, I love that. Kudos for finishing it 🙌🏽 2w
Suet624 It‘s the next one on my list to read. 2w
TrishB @CarolynM I think I‘m with you. Only 50 pages in and she‘s just so annoying already. 1w
CarolynM @TrishB She‘s insufferable 😩 1w
TheKidUpstairs My hold just came in, interested to see where I fall with this one. I am not a Miranda July fan in general, but I'm going to try and go into this one with an open mind! 1w
Caroline2 Agreed. I loved it too and it‘s a Camp Litsy win for me too. 👍 4d
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Pinta
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Mehso-so

Stunted roadtrip. Room 321. July did the mannish manic pixie trick for so long, what happens when pixie chick ages & makes bank? Quirk dims & sours, resentment sets in. Annoying & awesome in equal parts, now hunger has a wistful, bitter tinge. Motherhood & selfhood. 2024

P47 “She was doing that thing that women do; begging for what you want by not asking for it.”

P173 “So much of what I had thought of as femininity was really just youth.”

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BarbaraBB
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Ouch 😓
#CampLitsy24

Megabooks Heavy. 😬 2w
Suet624 Ugh. So true. 2w
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youneverarrived
All Fours | Miranda July
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Pickpick

Imagine being able to write a book like this! I thought it was really clever and gripping. It‘s one of those I think every one will take something different from so really looking forward to the #camplitsy discussion.

squirrelbrain Great review! Looking forward to the discussions soon. 2w
youneverarrived @squirrelbrain thanks! It should be interesting 😆 2w
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Megabooks
All Fours | Miranda July
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I want to thank all the astute campers for a fantastic discussion of James yesterday! I am looking forward to an equally enlightening conversation about the whole book next Saturday.

Looking ahead to our second July book, All Fours, I wanted to let everyone know the chapter break for the discussions. Chapters 1-14 will be July 20 and chapters 15-end will be on July 27. Hope to see many of you back at #CampLitsy24!

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Megabooks @Amiable @Zuhkeeyah @monalyisha Would you like to be tagged for this book? We‘d love to have you! 3w
squirrelbrain Looking forward to starting this! 3w
Chelsea.Poole Thanks for the reminder!! I‘m looking forward to this one. 3w
monalyisha I‘m in! 3w
AmyG I started it-fun so far. 3w
rockpools I‘m surprised at how much I‘m enjoying this so far! 3w
Bklover Hi! You can untag me- I‘m sorry I won‘t be able to participate!!!❤️❤️❤️ 3w
Deblovestoread Thanks for the breakdown. Looking forward to this one. 3w
BarbaraBB I‘ll be starting it as my next read! 3w
BookWrym I have been unable to get hold of either July read 😢 3w
Hooked_on_books Can‘t wait for this conversation—I predict it‘ll be rollicking! 3w
Megabooks @squirrelbrain @Chelsea.Poole @monalyisha @AmyG @rockpools @Deblovestoread @BarbaraBB @Hooked_on_books yay! So glad other people are excited about this one! I‘m finding the MC pleasantly unhinged so far. 🙃 3w
Megabooks @BookWrym I‘m sorry you won‘t be joining us! I hope you can find August‘s books. 🤞🏻🤞🏻 3w
Megabooks @Bklover sure thing! I‘m sorry you‘re not able to join us. Would you like to be tagged in August? 3w
Bklover Yes, I‘d like to participate in Bear. Thank you so much. ❤️ 3w
julieclair We have 4 different sets of houseguests coming this month, so I know I won‘t be able to read All Fours. I haven‘t even been able to start James yet… 3w
BarbaraJean Unfortunately I'm going to have to skip All Fours, but given everything I've read about it, I'll definitely have to eavesdrop on the discussion from outside the cabin window... 😆 I'm looking forward to discussing the rest of James next week! 3w
Texreader I‘m 36th in line and by the time I can get it I‘ll be on vacation so I‘ll probably have to pas a on this one. I‘m seeing so-so reviews so I‘ll be interested to see what our campers think of it. Meanwhile my copy of Bear is about to arrive so I‘ll start reading that one next to get ahead for next month 3w
Megabooks @julieclair @BarbaraJean sorry you won‘t be joining us! I hope you can make it back in August! 2w
Megabooks @Texreader enjoy your vacation! Glad you‘ll be joining us for Bear. My copy arrives today! 2w
BarbaraJean @Megabooks Yes, I‘ll be back for August! My library copy of The Alternatives is already waiting for pickup. Hoping that library timing will cooperate for Bear. 2w
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Twocougs
All Fours | Miranda July
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Panpan

Was disappointed. Not what I expected, after all the reviews.

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Meshell1313
All Fours | Miranda July
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Pickpick

What?! This #camplitsy24 discussion is going to be wild! Maybe because I‘m in my 40‘s that I loved this weird and crazy story?? How to even describe it? It‘s about a woman in her 40‘s discovering who is she sexually, and mentally and challenging the conventional marriage to find what works for her. Because what‘s the alternative- depression and possible death? Jeez Louise. Buckle up campers! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

AmyG I am enjoying this, too. Wacky, wild and very funny. 3w
Bookwormjillk Lol can‘t wait! 3w
squirrelbrain Looking forward to getting started with this one! 3w
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BarbaraBB Fantastic review! Can‘t wait either! I hope to read it next week! 3w
kspenmoll What a review! I can‘t wait! 3w
Hooked_on_books Glad you liked it! I‘m in my 40s and hated it, so who knows? 🤷🏼‍♀️ 3w
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AmyG
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I will be reading All Fours for my #ReadYourKindle challenge.

Thanks @CBee

CBee Interested to see what you think - I keep reading some pretty scathing reviews 😳🫢 3w
AmyG It‘s for Camp Litsy. I just started it and it seems fun. 🤷‍♀️ 3w
Lesliereadsalot I‘m also interested to see what you think. 3w
BarbaraBB I am super looking forward to it 3w
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kbuggle
All Fours | Miranda July
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Panpan

Wow. This book is a trip. I had a lot of wtf moments reading this. I know it‘s getting a ton of attention, but ultimately left me with more ‘why‘ questions than answers.

dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 4w
Hooked_on_books Right there with you! 4w
kbuggle @Hooked_on_books so glad I‘m not alone! This was just not it 3w
Twocougs Same feelings! 3w
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Daisey
All Fours | Miranda July
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Panpan

This is one of those books that I finished because it was for Camp Litsy and also because I read to experience different world views from my own. I could appreciate pieces of it, such as open sourcing discussion about aspects of life that are seldom talked about, but overall it was not the book for me.

#audiobook #CampLitsy24

CarolynM I started this one today. I‘m kind of enjoying hating it😆 4w
Lesliereadsalot One of the most unlikeable characters ever. Still found it slightly thought provoking. Definitely not for everyone! 3w
Daisey @Lesliereadsalot You‘re exactly right. I disliked her and her character arc, but I also found aspects to think about and appreciate. 3w
Daisey @CarolynM I definitely think it will lead to some interesting discussion. 3w
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ImperfectCJ
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Pickpick

This is a complicated pick for me. I really enjoyed Part 1 and Part 2, I liked Part 3 a lot (except the last paragraph...major eye roll), and I pretty much hated Part 4. I love what July has to say about aging in a female body, about the challenges of intimacy and breaking out of ingrained patterns of behavior that separate us, about trauma and how poorly our culture deals with it. The things I disliked are more specific and spoilery. #CampLitsy24

ImperfectCJ Now to come up with questions for #CampToB discussion I'm leading in August! I'm looking forward to hearing opinions about this one, both here with #CampLitsy24 and on the ToB site. 4w
RaeLovesToRead I was all over the place with this book too 4w
ImperfectCJ @RaeLovesToRead I thought about your review when I finished it and asked myself, "Would I recommend this to anyone?" and realized that I probably wouldn't. Well, maybe one friend. But not my spouse. I had him read Wellness... similar themes, different conclusion. 4w
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rockpools
All Fours | Miranda July
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So here‘s a surprise.

I‘m really enjoying this! No idea who Miranda July is (I feel like I should know. Is she sort-of famous?) or where we‘re going, but I‘m happy to keep reading (which is only sporadically happening at the moment…).

🍌🩲🤷🏻‍♀️

BarbaraBB Very excited about this one! 4w
squirrelbrain Interesting! 🤪 4w
AmyG Good to hear! I really enjoyed her last book. 4w
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rockpools @BarbaraBB I think you might like it Barbara! 4w
rockpools @squirrelbrain 🙃 Not sure what this says about my current state of mind 🤔. Have you read it yet? 4w
squirrelbrain No, I‘m about to start it…. Holly @Hooked_on_books hated it, but others seem to like it. 🤔 4w
rockpools @squirrelbrain I saw that @Hooked_on_books - and I totally get what you‘re saying. I‘m also only 25% through so I may change my mind. But currently I think the authors is seriously taking the proverbial, and I‘m finding it quite funny. Either way, it‘ll be a good one to discuss. 4w
rockpools @AmyG Cool! Which was that? 4w
AmyG First Bad Man 4w
sarahbarnes I liked it! I now want to read The First Bad Man. 4w
Hooked_on_books That‘s so great to enjoy it rather than hating it like me! 4w
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Hooked_on_books
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Panpan

This was, in a word, dreadful. Most of the book says that sex is the most important thing in life and that women die at menopause, living as shells for the rest of their lives. What the actual fuck? I came so close to bailing (especially when she said she wanted to genuflect at the apparent size of a man‘s dick), but wanted to keep with it just for the #CampLitsy conversation, which I predict will be rollicking good.

TrishB Great review - how can we not find something to talk about. 4w
Sace I‘ll be lurking in that conversation! This is a book I will avoid. Sounds awful. 4w
CarolynM Great review. I think I want to read it even more now, I almost hope it willl make me as angry as it‘s obviously made you! 4w
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Amiable I haven‘t read the book but now I‘m interested in seeing the discussion comments! 4w
squirrelbrain Blimey! Going to start this one soon…. 🤪 4w
Daisey I‘m a little over halfway and feeling similarly although not as strongly. I hope to listen to the rest today so I can be done. 4w
LeahBergen I won‘t be reading it but damn, I love your review! 😆 4w
dabbe #fanofthepan! 🤩🤩🤩 I don't think I'll even bother with this one now! 😂 4w
Hooked_on_books @CarolynM Hate reading can be fun, so I hope it is for you! 4w
Hooked_on_books @squirrelbrain I was making all sorts of facial expressions while listening. I‘m sure I would have been entertaining to watch! 😆 4w
jlhammar Blech. I bailed very early on (shortly after the part where she takes a naked selfie and wipes her fingers on her shirt after masturbating). I think I made the right decision! 4w
Hooked_on_books @jlhammar You sure did, because it gets worse! Let‘s just say there‘s urine and then a tampon involved and leave it at that. 4w
CarolynM You are 100% right. It‘s dreadful. The woman is insufferable! 4w
CBee I might read it JUST so I can participate in the discussions - best part IMO 😊 BUT it sounds like I‘ll be making lots of facial expressions too - sounds super gross 😳 3w
TrishB I‘m having fun reading the reviews! 50 pages in and she‘s just annoying me. You did well to finish! 1w
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sarahbarnes
All Fours | Miranda July
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Pickpick

I liked this one very much. It spoke to my soul and I‘m looking forward to the #CampLitsy discussion in July!

kspenmoll That‘s good to know! I plan to read it in July. 1mo
sarahbarnes @kspenmoll I will be interested to hear what you think of it! 1mo
squirrelbrain Good to know - going to read this soon. 1mo
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youneverarrived I‘m really looking forward to reading it! 1mo
sarahbarnes @squirrelbrain @youneverarrived very much looking forward to your thoughts! 1mo
BarbaraBB Oow exciting! My bff loved it and after your review I am sure I will too! 4w
sarahbarnes @BarbaraBB I hope you like it! I‘m looking forward to hearing what you think. 4w
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peaKnit
All Fours | Miranda July
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What the actual f*ck? is my thought as I close this book tonight. Looking forward to #camplitsy discussion. @BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain @Megabooks

Megabooks I‘ll take a What the F! Makes for good discussion usually. 👍🏻 1mo
BarbaraBB I‘ve heard good things and will start it soon! 1mo
squirrelbrain Interesting! 🤨 1mo
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jlhammar
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Bailedbailed

Not for me. Had a feeling it wouldn‘t be, but wanted to give it a try just in case. #CampLitsy24

Now I have to decide if I want to push on with Butter. I‘m at the 120 page mark and not enjoying it all that much. And it‘s quite long! Kind of surprised since I tend to really like Japanese lit. 🤔

JamieArc I feel like that‘s about the part where Butter picked up for me - around that page…. 1mo
dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 1mo
BarbaraBB That is too bad! I‘ve heard mixed things about All Fours but am expecting to love it 🤞🏽. Butter is very long indeed, maybe even too long but it did pick up pace like @JamieArc points out. I hope you‘ll end up enjoying it! 1mo
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squirrelbrain Yes, I agree with @JamieArc - try another chapter or two of Butter at least, as it changes pace around there. 1mo
The_Book_Ninja I think books that divide opinion are much more interesting sometimes. I want to give this a go. Midlife crises fascinate me. I‘ve never had one: I hope to have one soon though as I‘ve spent hundreds on motorbike lessons 1mo
Lesliereadsalot I ended up liking this one but wouldn‘t recommend, even tho it went to some interesting places. 1mo
Kitta Butter gets better at chapter 8, I found it too long though and would have cut a lot! 1mo
mcctrish I feel like Butter gets bogged down around there with a lot of words, like what is actually happening in this book and then chapter 8 happens and it picks up and Rika starts realizing some stuff. It really does need to be finished to understand it. Much less a mystery and more of a comment on society and women 1mo
Megabooks I‘m sorry All Fours didn‘t work for you, but I agree with what the others have said about the second half of Butter. 1mo
Hooked_on_books I think I would have struggled with Butter in print, but it worked for me on audio. I don‘t know if you‘re an audio listener, but if so that might help. 1mo
peaKnit I decided to skip butter for now, I did finish All Fours but I would say it wasn‘t really for me either. 4w
Daisey I‘m about half way through All Fours and can‘t say it‘s for me either. However, I‘m just a bit curious to see where things go from this point, so I‘m going to try to push through. 4w
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Lesliereadsalot
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Pickpick

I liked this book but I‘m not sure what to make of it. A 45 year old artist (it‘s never clear exactly what her art is) sets out to improve her life, her sexuality and her knowledge about herself. She goes off on one tangent after another and has one complicated relationship after another. I‘m just not clear on where she stood at the end of the book, but it kept me reading so that‘s something.

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JenReadsAlot
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1. Always Frankie!
2. New coffee flavors from Bones Coffee
3. Signed book for #camplitsy24 that @KLyn1 grabbed for me
4. Nice weather for walking after work
5. One of my clients celebrated 7 years of sobriety
@Kshakal @DebinHawaii #5joysFriday

TheBookHippie 7 years is so awesome!! 1mo
JenReadsAlot @TheBookHippie It is! Such a tough journey. 1mo
julieclair Considering that one day of sobriety is really hard work, 7 years is really an accomplishment. That‘s fabulous! 1mo
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dabbe 🖤🐾🖤 1mo
CoffeeNBooks I haven't tried the new Bones flavors yet- how are they? 1mo
JenReadsAlot @CoffeeNBooks I haven't tried them yet I'm still making my way through the star wars flavors! 1mo
Mimi28 I have been sober for a little over 11 years now. 1mo
JenReadsAlot @Mimi28 That's awesome! Congrats!! 1mo
DebinHawaii A wonderful list of joys! 💛💛💛That‘s so great about your client! 🎉 And those coffee flavors look fun. Thanks for joining in & spreading the joy! 🤗 1mo
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RaeLovesToRead
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Pickpick

This book is incredible, but that doesn't mean I think you should read it.

It's a book about dissatisfaction, sexuality, freedom, priorities, fidelity, desire, fantasy, reality, convention, change, time...

It's a book that I found impossible to read with detachment. It's a rollercoaster. At times it made me feel MISERABLE, but then it shattered my expectations. I wonder how much of herself the author put into this book.

#camplitsy24

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Caroline2 Hmm, I‘m really intrigued by this one. I‘ll get started soon…! 1mo
sarahbarnes Reading this now and also very into it. 1mo
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perfectlywinged
All Fours | Miranda July
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Miranda July‘s writing got me through my 20‘s and her newest book arrived just in time to carry me through my 30‘s and 40‘s!

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Deblovestoread
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What does one do when they have time to kill? Look for the nearest bookstore, of course. This shop in Port Angeles, WA was a combo of new and used books and packed to the gills with all kinds of fun things. I didn't have enough time but did pick up the tagged for #CampLitsy.

Purpleness Ooo, is that Odyssey Books? I love that place! 1mo
Deblovestoread @purpleness I wish I had had more time. 1mo
Lesliereadsalot Trying to figure out if I can get to Odyssey on my trip to Seattle later this summer! Also reading All Fours right now and liking it. 1mo
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RaeLovesToRead
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These books.

Regency Rae is not impressed.

All Fours is brilliantly written, but I wouldn't recommend reading it if you are a woman over 30.

Ducks is samey, samey, samey, and every time I pick it up I start thinking of all the other ways I could be spending my time instead.

BUT I REFUSE TO BE DEFEATED.

#ducksbuddyread

DaveGreen7777 Are you saying “Ducks” is not all it‘s quacked up to be?!? 🦆 1mo
RaeLovesToRead @DaveGreen7777 Look into the eyes of manly, Regency Rae, Dave. Because that's the expression I'm giving you right now 😐 1mo
DaveGreen7777 @RaeLovesToRead 😂😂😂 Regency Rae is not pleased! 😱 (and although she‘s not pictured, I‘m sure Pickles is judging me right now, too! 🙀) 1mo
julesG 🤣🤣🤣 1mo
RaeLovesToRead @DaveGreen7777 Regency Pickles has no thoughts on puns, but if she did I'm sure she'd back me up. Probably. 1mo
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RaeLovesToRead
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After I've finished this and Ducks, I'm going to dive into fantasy worlds and never come back out.

Leftcoastzen 😁 1mo
BarbaraBB 😂😂 1mo
Clare-Dragonfly I‘d like to dive into that hot chocolate! I wouldn‘t splash, I‘d just leisurely settle into the whipped cream. 1mo
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RaeLovesToRead @Clare-Dragonfly It was goooood! 😊 1mo
Ruthiella I know what you mean! I feel like I have to wash my mind of All Fours. 😂 1mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Looks delicious 😋 1mo
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JamieArc
All Fours | Miranda July
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Should I be worried (or rather, should my spouse be worried) about our August #camplitsy24 read?!? This is probably behind a paywall, so you can google it if you want to read it, but I thought this article title was interesting, and I‘m really looking forward to our discussion of this book.

TheBookHippie 🫣😳👀 2mo
TheBookHippie Ha I‘ve been having this conversation for literal decades and I can‘t wait to read this. 2mo
BarbaraBB @TheBookHippie Me too, we‘ve talked so much about this among my friends! Thanks Jamie, I am looking forward to reading it too! 2mo
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squirrelbrain Ha! Looking forward to this too! 2mo
youneverarrived Looking forward to it too! 2mo
AmyG I liked her last book alot so I am really looking forward to this one, too. 2mo
sarahbarnes I just started this one. It‘s my first time reading her. So far I love her narrative style. Unclear yet on whether it will spur a desire for freedom in my 46 year old self. 😂 1mo
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Night_Reader
All Fours | Miranda July
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4/5 ?

This book is bonkers! You need to have an open mind going into it. It's absurd, funny, honest, raw, and very explicit!! It's not a book for everyone, but it kept me entertained, and there are certain things I can't unsee. Proceed with caution - it's not for the faint-hearted.

"...I'm forever wanting to know what it feels like to be other people. What were we all doing?"

Caroline2 Ohhh this sounds so intriguing. I can‘t wait to read it and discuss it at camp litsy! 😃 (edited) 2mo
Night_Reader @Caroline2 Read at your own risk. 😂😂 2mo
The_Book_Ninja I saw this and thought I might buy it for my wife, then steal it when she‘s done 2mo
Night_Reader @The_Book_Ninja That's a brave choice. Let me know how she likes the book. 1mo
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All Fours | Miranda July

"I didn't think a lot about death, but I was getting ready to. I understood that death was coming and that all my current preoccupations were kind of naïve; I still operated as if I could win somehow. Not the vast and total winning I had hoped for in the previous decades, but a last chance to get it together before winter came, my final season."