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The Wise Man's Fear | Patrick Rothfuss

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TricksyTails We made it!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 7y

ScientistSam Yes!!! So...seems like there's a LOT of ground to cover in the next book/third day! 7y

MinDea @ScientistSam Yes!!! So many more questions were created for me this book and nothing really answered!!! 7y

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TricksyTails Thank you everyone for joining us on this epic adventure with Kvothe. All your encouragement was so appreciated! I really love Rothfuss‘ world building and can‘t wait to discover new places. I love Haert and the Adem. 7y

TricksyTails While in Haert, they discussed the importance of keeping names secret. I wondered why Kvothe would ever tell anyone his name then. Why not make up a name? But Elodin‘s comments to Kvothe when he mentioned Denna‘s constant name changing, made me wonder if there was some kind of detriment to changing your name. So curious! 7y

MinDea What was everyone's favorites and least favorite parts this book? 7y

TricksyTails I love Vashet! And Auri! And Bast! And Elodin! Who are your favorites? 7y

AmyG BAST WTF? I had to go on fandom pages to understand the ending. (edited) 7y

TricksyTails @MinDea Favorite parts were any part with Vashet. 😂 And Penthe. The way Elodin started really teaching Kvothe at the end. Bast at the end. Auri, of course. Bredon. When Kvothe knifes the century and calls down lightning. Fake Edema Ruh. Least favorite: Felurian, Meluan. 7y

MinDea So much still needs to happen. He needs to steal a princess, kill a king and be betrayed! So much needs to happen in the third book. Does anyone speculate who the princess he steals or the king he has to kill? I think Ambrose will be that king! Could Denna be that princess? Also who do you think the one of the Amyr is near the Maer that the Cthaeh mentioned? Could it be his manservant? 7y

MinDea @TricksyTails I feel like Meluan is someone in Kvothe's story. He recognized her. He has to know her somehow. But how? I feel like she will show up again 7y

MinDea @AmyG hahaha. I know right?!? Bast! I get why he did it, but WHYYYYYYY! I feel like since Kvothe got the 💩 kicked out of him it did the EXACT opposite thing he wanted to happen. So now what?!? Seems he could have gone about this a different way! Does anyone wonder WHY Bast is so adamant about Kvothe coming back to who he was? What is he hoping will happen or needs to happen?! 7y

TricksyTails @MinDea Definitely feel this is just the beginning with Meluan. So judge-y! Reminded me a bit of Catelyn Stark. Off with her head too! 😈🗡 7y

BarbaraJean @MinDea Favorite parts were Haert, and the crazy epic stabbing scene! I also really enjoyed the intrigue/plot surrounding the Maer, and that whole culture of giving rings, etc. The whole journey with the mercenaries kind of dragged on for me. I also still don‘t really like Denna—so much prefer Devi!! 7y

TricksyTails Yup. I think Ambrose should be the king who dies #TeamKillAmbrose but then Kvothe referred to Sim as a prince and I wondered if that was foreshadowing 🤔 Gosh, that would be awful. 💔 7y

Andrew65 @AmyG We need the third book to understand this ending, listened to that bit three times thinking I was missing something! Very puzzling @MinDea (edited) 7y

BarbaraJean @AmyG @MinDea —BAST!!!! Holy crap, I read that section 3 times because I felt like I MUST be missing something! I am so curious as to Bast‘s agenda with Kvothe, because of that cray cray ending, and also now because of the whole Cthaeh thing. (edited) 7y

ScientistSam @MinDea @TricksyTails yes, I definitely hope Ambrose is the killed king. It would break my heart if it were Sim. 7y

Andrew65 @ScientistSam @MinDea @TricksyTails If it turned out to be Sim that would be a major shock. 7y

Andrew65 @BarbaraJean Ditto 😂 7y

Andrew65 I think there is much more to come from the story with Meluan! 7y

ScientistSam @MinDea @BarbaraJean @AmyG @Andrew65 @TricksyTails I feel like there is so much that is wrong in the "current" world when we're in the inn that the world needs a hero to fix it, and Bast is hoping that it's Kvothe's will that's broken but not his talent. I think he's trying so hard to force Kvothe to awaken, but the verdict is still out as to whether he will or whether he's just completely given up. I'm a little worried... 7y

MinDea @ScientistSam it never occurred to me it could be Sim! Holy 💩 what if it is?!? Oh my gosh! 🤯 I couldn't handle it if it was. @Andrew65 7y

ScientistSam @Andrew65 I agree! It feels like a throwaway line otherwise 7y

ScientistSam @andrew65 I mean with Meluan 7y

ScientistSam @TricksyTails mentioned that Sim was referred to as a prince, which I totally missed. @MinDea @Andrew65 7y

BarbaraJean @ScientistSam @MinDea @TricksyTails I love the idea of Ambrose being the king he kills! And I feel like it‘s plausible—isn‘t he always boasting about being just a few steps away from the throne? And now Kvothe has all these connections in Vintas! Ambrose becoming the king of Vint and then being killed by Kvothe would be very fulfilling. In purely a narrative sense, of course. 😈 7y

MinDea @Andrew65 @ScientistSam @BarbaraJean @AmyG haha. Yes! I read the ending twice cause at first I was confused and then mad at Bast! I felt like it was a bit of a cliff hanger. Leaving us with a glimpse of Bast's evil side again but not explaining what his true intentions are. I worry they are more sinister or more selfish than wanting to help Kvothe become who he was. He has an agenda. Maybe you are right @ScientistSam They need a hero 7y

ghosthost Favorite: Everything at the University. Least favorite: The tedious Felurian pages. 7y

ghosthost @ScientistSam I missed that too. 7y

MinDea @BarbaraJean that as my thought thinking it was Ambrose! Aaaahhhhh. It would be soooo good if it was! 7y

Andrew65 @ScientistSam I think I did miss that too. The beauty of Buddy Reads! @TricksyTails @MinDea 7y

MinDea I remember now that he was a prince but never thought he would be the king that gives Kvothe the title of king killer. Ugh! That would be awful! But @TricksyTails you could be on to something. If Rothfuss is like Martin no one is safe! 7y

BookwormAHN Vashet is one of my favorites in this book and I still love Bast even after that 💩 he pulled. 7y

Andrew65 I have to say I was quite disappointed that there was so little Ambrose in this book. Who knew I‘d miss Ambrose. It would definitely be good if he was killed by Kvothe. 7y

BarbaraJean @MinDea I like the idea that Meluan is someone from Kvothe‘s past. I‘m REALLY curious about her, and agree there has to be more to come with her. @Andrew65 @TricksyTails (edited) 7y

Aleida Wow I really need to reread this. I barely understand/remember most of these characters in your posts! 7y

Andrew65 @BarbaraJean It just seemed such a quick turn around with her. 7y

Andrew65 @Aleida It‘s over a week and I already feel I need to read it again too! 😂 7y

BookwormAHN Kvothe killing Sim would be terrible. I'm still on #TeamKillAmbrose and I hope Rothfuss does not go into Martin territory. 7y

AmyG Kvothe‘s mom was from noble roots. Does Meluan remind him of his Mom? Are they related??? SIM? WHAT? (edited) 7y

TricksyTails @ScientistSam Agree 100% on your opinion for Bast‘s motive. Kvothe‘s spirit is beaten and I think Bast is trying to light that fire again. However misguided, I think he‘s trying from the goodness of his heart. 😂 @MinDea @AmyG @Andrew65 @BarbaraJean 7y

Aleida @Andrew65 they were great books so I don‘t mind. 7y

TricksyTails @Aleida 😂 The only reason I can remember any of this is because I only finished it a mere 5 hours ago. Ask me tomorrow and I won‘t remember anyone‘s names! 7y

Andrew65 In this book (for most of it) I missed Denna, Devi, Auri and the University. There were parts of the book that dragged a bit and not much seemed to happen. The whole Maer and Felurian section, and whilst I loved Vashet I even felt that section was a bit on the long side. Patrick certainly seems to like the slow and steady build up. I felt more events happened in the first book. (edited) 7y

BarbaraJean @Andrew65 Exactly! I want to know why she had such a strong reaction to Kvothe being Edema Ruh—there has to be something in her past that hasn‘t been revealed yet. There‘s a lot of prejudice toward the Ruh in general, but I feel like there was more going on with her. And the whole thing with the wooden box? I need to know more!! 7y

AmyG I agree....that Bast was trying to “jump start” Kvothe. But I still feel something‘s not right there. 7y

Andrew65 @Aleida I definitely agree. 7y

Andrew65 @AmyG Me too, There feels part of a hidden agenda that we are not aware of yet. I was starting to doubt him significant,y towards the end. 7y

BarbaraJean @AmyG I had forgotten that Kvothe‘s mother had noble roots! I love the idea that there might be a connection to Meluan there. 7y

ScientistSam @BarbaraJean do you think Meluan's box is the trunk that Kote the Innkeeper has? 7y

BarbaraJean @MinDea I love the idea that the Maer‘s manservant might be one of the Amyr. I had forgotten that the Cthaeh said there was an Amyr near the Maer. It would make sense for it to be Stapes... thinking back, I feel like there is more to Stapes than we‘ve been told. And more to the Maer as well!! 7y

ghosthost @AmyG I wondered the same thing about Meluan. @Andrew65 I was surprised how much I missed Denna. I think she‘s growing on me. 7y

BarbaraJean @ScientistSam That‘s such an interesting connection—I didn‘t think about the truck and the box being similar, but they really are! I don‘t think they are the same, because the box was much smaller, wasn‘t it? But maybe the trunk is a similar type of artifact? 7y

Andrew65 @ghosthost Whilst we don‘t necessarily like Denna she does add an extra layer and more interest in the book. Kvothe also changes around her. 7y

Andrew65 @BarbaraJean @ScientistSam Good thinking! 7y

ghosthost @BarbaraJean @ScientistSam I was under the impression that the trunk was something Kvothe built, but perhaps he drew inspiration for it from Meluan‘s box. 7y

MinDea @AmyG I was wondering if Meluan was Kvothe's aunt!!!! 7y

MinDea @ScientistSam I figured that is where Kvothe got hi idea for a box with no hinges (Meluan's box). Meluan isn't a princess right, so she isn't the stollen princess, right? However could Meluan's item be INSIDE Kvothe's trunk? 7y

BookwormAHN @MinDea @AmyG I was wondering that too. 7y

MinDea What sword is hanging on his inn's wall? They commented that it is not similar to the sword from Haert, so what sword is one the wall? 7y

Andrew65 @MinDea I got The impression we are yet to come across that sword. 7y

TK421 I'm late to the party again. @TricksyTails I had never thought about Sim being the King who dies! I sure hope not! 7y

AmyG @MinDea If Meluan is Kvothe‘s aunt...she hates the Edema Ruh because her sister ran away to be with them? Wait until she finds out who Kvothe is. 😜 7y

TK421 @MinDea @Andrew65 I don't think we've encountered the sword yet either. 7y

Andrew65 @AmyG Can she hate him any more? 😂 7y

AmyG @Andrew65 Ha right? 7y

MinDea @Andrew65 @AmyG yeah pretty sure that isn't going to make her like him more! 😆 7y

tonyahoswalt @AmyG @mindea oh, that's an intriguing idea about Meluan being his aunt, and her sister running off... 7y

tonyahoswalt I'm late again! I was trying to finish up. I still have around 60 pages to go, and though it's a reread, I'm not sure I remember what happens in those pages. // I am not too fond of Alveron, or the way he treats Kvothe, takes such convincing to believe him, etc. // I love Bast so much. I know he does something at the end, based off your comments, but I don't remember what. I'm off to finish! 7y

MinDea No worries @tonyahoswalt ! Join when you are done and start the discussion back up! 7y

MinDea @laundry_piles did you finish the book? How did you like it?! 7y

CareBear @AmyG @MinDea I love the idea of meluan‘s sister who ran off being Kvothe‘s mother!! 7y

CareBear I just love Rothfuss‘ writing so of course I enjoyed this one, but not quite as much as the first. Parts of it dragged for me in ways I didn‘t feel during the first one. But it‘s the second in the trilogy ... so it‘s the middle. And that‘s usually the weakest, in my opinion. 7y

laundry_piles @MinDea I did! I finished it a few weeks ago. Love some of the points people being up here, very interesting. I thought it was ok. It dragged WAAAAYYY to long for me and was miffed what it took 92 chapters to get interesting. The ending was a good twist though, I'll give him that 7y

TricksyTails @MinDea @BarbaraJean @Andrew65 @ScientistSam @BookwormAHN @AmyG @TK421 I am all about #TeamKillAmbrose and I hope that Rothfuss isn‘t as cruel as GRRM! I just had an author kill of a favorite character so let‘s just hope it‘s my imagination! I adore Sim! 7y

TricksyTails @laundry_piles 😂😂😂 Chapter 92 was epic though! 7y

TricksyTails @MinDea That thought crossed my mind too about Meluan possibly being his aunt! That would make things very interesting! @AmyG @CareBear @tonyahoswalt @Andrew65 @BookwormAHN @ghosthost 7y

TricksyTails @Andrew65 @ghosthost I missed Ambrose and Denna too! And, of course, the rest of the University gang. I like Denna and I love to hate Ambrose. 7y

tonyahoswalt The only part of the book I didn't love was Felurian. Other than that, it didn't drag for me. I so enjoy his writing. I can't wait for book 3! 7y

MinDea Oh @TK421 I just saw you showed up! I missed that! It would be awful if it was Sim that Kvothe kills. Ugh but now I am worried. I can't with to learn about the sword that is hanging in his inn! 7y

MinDea @tonyahoswalt I felt like all the sections just went a tad too long and it all just added up and felt a bit long winded. I enjoyed the book and I think my so-so review was a tad harsh. Cause the more I think about it the more I feel like a lot did happen in this book. it was all in the details. It wasn't necessarily big huge action packed things but small significant things did happen. I love this story! @ 7y

MinDea Does Rothfuss have any other books? 7y

tonyahoswalt @mindea I think he wrote a children's book 7y

tonyahoswalt @MinDea https://www.fantasticfiction.com/r/patrick-rothfuss/ Well, it says it's not a children's book, but it also says the genre is children's fiction. I think that's part of the ploy to get kids to read it. 7y

BethM @AmyG maybe I'll have to find these fandom pages - I didn't get it either. @TricksyTails there has to be a detriment to changing your name. I don't think Kvothe has told anyone his true and secret name. I loved Bast and Elodin. I'd like to kick current day Kvothe's ass for being a Whiney little biotch lol. 7y

MinDea @BethM what true and secret name are you referring to? The one he got in Haert? Or the one he was born with? 7y

BethM @MinDea both. I‘m kind of wondering if they end up being the same/similar? 7y

MinDea Huh 🤷 I thought his name at birth was Kvothe. The name given in Ademre was Maedre. Do you think he has a different name? Or do you mean the meaning of these two names are the same just in different languages? 7y

MinDea @BethM 7y

BethM @MinDea I'm pretty sure his mother whispered his true name in his ear at birth and told him not to tell anyone- unless I hallucinated that part. 7y

MinDea @BethM you may be right but I totally don't remember that! 🤷 Looks like a reread needs to happen. 😏😆😆😆 7y

BethM @MinDea never read or watched GoT. 7y

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