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Forget the Alamo
Forget the Alamo: The True Story of the Myth That Made Texas | Bryan Burrough, Chris Tomlinson, Jason Stanford
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Three noted Texan writers combine forces to tell the real story of the Alamo, dispelling the myths, exploring why they had their day for so long, and explaining why the ugly fight about its meaning is now coming to a head. Every nation needs its creation myth, and since Texas was a nation before it was a state, it's no surprise that its myths bite deep. There's no piece of history more important to Texans than the Battle of the Alamo, when Davy Crockett and a band of rebels went down in a blaze of glory fighting for independence from Mexico, losing the battle but setting Texas up to win the war. However, that version of events, as Forget the Alamo definitively shows, owes more to fantasy than reality. Just as the site of the Alamo was left in ruins for decades, its story was forgotten and twisted over time, with the contributions of Tejanos, Texans of Mexican origin who fought alongside the Anglo rebels, scrubbed from the record, and the origin of the conflict over Mexico's push to abolish slavery papered over. Forget the Alamo provocatively explains the true story of the battle against the backdrop of Texas's struggle for independence, then shows us how the sausage of myth got made in the Jim Crow South of the late 19th and early 20th century. As uncomfortable as it may be to hear, celebrating the Alamo has long had an echo of celebrating whiteness. In the last forty-some years, waves of revisionists have come at this topic, and at times have made real progress toward a more nuanced and inclusive story that doesn't alienate anyone. But we are not living in one of those times; the fight over the Alamo's meaning has become more pitched than ever in the past few years, even violent, as Texas's future begins to look more and more different from its past. It's the perfect time for a wise and generous-spirited book that shines the bright light of the truth into a place that's gotten awfully dark.
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AmyK1
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I went into this knowing very little about the Alamo, except that we are supposed to remember it. It was well researched and told the history of Texas leading up to the battle and the aftermath, up to present day (Phil Collins?? Really?)

It was disheartening to see how the myth of the Alamo has been used to oppress people of Mexican descent since the battle in 1836.

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Julsmarshall
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Fantastic! This historiography (the study of historical writing (looked it up), was fascinating. A non-Texan living in Texas, I‘ve heard a lot about the Alamo & knew a lot of it was contradictory, but these authors researched it all, from every viewpoint, & wrote something true, thought provoking, & funny. They grabbed me from page 1 where they envision the ends of the Alamo spectrum as Phil Collins & Ozzy Osborne and it was as hard to put down.

marleed I found it fascinating too. I lived in an apt on the SA riverwalk and walked/ran by the Alamo almost everyday just because I could. I didn‘t read this book until after moved back to Kansas City but I was fascinated. Interesting how John Wayne and Walt Disney literally rewrote history. 1y
Deblovestoread Sounds fascinating! Stacked 📚 1y
Susanita A couple women from the Northeast talk about Texas in this podcast episode. https://overcast.fm/+ufsxfqdcs 1y
Julsmarshall So true, @marleed ! Enjoy, @Deblovestoread and thanks @Susanita , I‘ll check that out! 1y
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Julsmarshall
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Only got 6 Bingoes in June, but that is ok, it was a busy month and I‘m in that middle of 4 books right now so July will start off well. I moved 3 of the 4 I missed in June to July and am pushing to finish 6 ARCs and some off my #TBR. Love starting a month with a clean slate!

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Julsmarshall
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#June #BookspinBingo list. Keeping it vague, focusing on unread #ARCs in June. @TheAromaofBooks Anyone else follow #ModernMrsDarcy ? Loving her summer reading list this year!

LeslieO Yes! My TBR is blown up from MMD Summer Reading Guide. I‘m no longer on her Patreon because I wasn‘t talking advantage of the extras. So I just bought the guide. So glad she added that option this year. (edited) 2y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! 2y
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steph_phanie
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
An in-depth examination of the most famous and romanticized moment of Texas history: the Battle of the Alamo, the events that led up to that day in 1836, and the ongoing fight over how to preserve & present that history today.

I found this to be a significant improvement over other attempts to relay early TX history, which can be difficult to follow. And the critique of this "Texas Creation Myth" to be both searing and done with care.

steph_phanie For transparency: I am a non-native resident of TX. My childhood was spent first in KY, then WV, then OK. I remember first learning about The Alamo in elementary school, and I recall watching Disney's Davy Crockett mini-series. For the most part, I was taught the myth. But I became skeptical as I got older and assumed there was something much larger going on. 2y
steph_phanie Besides the analysis of early TX history and the battle itself, I appreciated the critique of the Alamo's role in pop culture, cultivated by the likes of Wayne and Disney. And I am horrified by the idea that freaking Phil Collins of all people has used his very questionable collection of Alamo "artifacts" to influence the city of San Antonio and the efforts to better preserve and portray its history. 2y
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steph_phanie
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Book mail is the best mail!! I have been anxiously awaiting the paperback version of the tagged book, and it is finally here! Can't wait to see if I ruffle any feathers carrying it around 😅

marleed I loved reading Forget the Alamo esp after living on the river walk for 5 years and walking or running by this beautiful structure nearly every day. One could argue where John Wayne falls in the list of great American actors, but really he has no business on a list for great American historians. 2y
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iread2much
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The 1st half of this book was hard to read & hard to follow, but the 2nd half was good. Starts with an overview of the history of Texas, then dives hard & deep into the slave state that was created by white settlers who had made agreements with Mexico they didn‘t honor and who lost the Alamo in their fight to keep slavery. The most interesting part was the fight over who controlled the Alamo in more modern times and it‘s symbolic growth. 2/5 stars

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freeatlast1137
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An in-depth analysis on the Alamo.

Being raised in Texas and taught in Texas schools, we are given a specific narrative of how the Texans bravely fought the Alamo. This book does not dispute the bravery but goes into depth about how some aspects that are prominent in our education may be false.

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fredthemoose
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💫 This was really good. I had a bit of trouble getting through the parts from before the actual battle and the immediate aftermath (I just really know so little about it that it was a little tricky to follow), but the second half with the implication of how the Alamo‘s history has been preserved and perpetuated into the present was really interesting. Definite pick!

marleed I was fascinated by this book. I‘ve spent 5 recent years with the Alamo part of my near daily foot traffic. Very important for me to put things in perspective. God love Walt Disney and even John Wayne, but it‘s important to realize when their take on history becomes the new history. 3y
tokorowilliamwallace Nice, Bryan Burroughs. I like the past audiobook I listened to from him on the history of the oil industry and how it got big and profitable. 2y
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jhroenigk
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I probably learned more from this book than I did during the entirety of my 7th grade mandatory TX History course. It brings attention to Tejano leaders in the fight for TX independence, who too often get overshadowed by Travis, Bowie, and Crockett. The book recognizes historical relativism but also doesn't shy away from the less savory motivation for TX independence i.e. slavery. It criticizes history as hero worship, which I absolutely love.

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DGRachel
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The second half of November was a disaster for me, but Forget the Alamo did not let me down. A great look at the difference between the legend currently taught as fact and the reality of the events, plus all of the politics that shaped and perpetuated the legend. #12booksof2021 #november

Andrew65 A great book. 3y
marleed One of my top books, as well. 3y
GingerAntics I have this on audiobook. I actually used to work at a historical museum in Dallas, and there was a lot of talk about and worship of “The Alamo.” I‘m absolutely intrigued by the reality of the event that has become such a legend. 3y
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marleed
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I often prioritize my fiction reads above my nonfiction but like taking a month to prioritize NF as I‘ve read some great books and I‘m enlightened on several topics! Tagged an important book for me to have a different perspective.

5* = Loved It, want to shout out loud about this book! I do/will own/keep a physical copy. A+
4*= I liked it, would love to discuss. Solid B
3*=Meh, no need to discuss. Average C
2*=Nope D
1*=DNF F

Suet624 I‘m with you on the 3.25 rating for Levy‘s book. 3y
marleed @Suet624 Yea, I just think when you write a memoir it should be more than the experiences - who you are now because of those experiences. 3y
Suet624 👍🏻 3y
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marleed
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I‘ve walked inside and around the Alamo countless times with my challenge of snapping a pic sans tourists (my photo above!). What I did not realize is how much influence John Wayne and Walt Disney had in creating the post 1950 view of the Alamo - wow! ↓

marleed In the last couple years I‘ve opened my mind to history collected, investigated, and taught from many perspectives. When I saw this book posted on Litsy, I knew I‘d be amiss if I didn‘t read this with an open mind. My heart breaks for any student of Mexican descent field-tripping to the Alamo, only to return to their bus feeling as though they are the enemy. 3y
Texreader Have you read the Gates of the Alamo? That‘s my fave book about it and supposed to be historically accurate. 3y
Amiable I have this book but haven‘t started it yet—glad to see you liked it ! 3y
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marleed @Texreader oh I have a physical copy of GotA and was planning it for NF November until I saw this one and thought it might be interesting to read Forget the Alamo first. I‘m so happy to here you liked Gates and will keep it atop my TBR! 3y
marleed @Amiable I‘ll be interested to see your review. Fascinating to consider the postwar WWII mindset of the culture at the time and how that impacted the telling of even earlier history for future generations. 3y
Amiable Isn‘t “Gates of the Alamo” fictional? This one is nonfiction, or am I wrong? 3y
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DGRachel
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I loved this. History written by white men, made educational law by white male politicians is astonishingly NOT what really happened. /s More books crushing the white savior/hero narrative please. It‘s past time for us to stop pretending con-men, slavers, thieves, and rapists are heroes and worth emulating. Knock them off their pedestals. Burn your Phil Collins CDs while you‘re at it (ugh).

AmyG I was watching (for 2 minutes) the Rittenhouse trial. A murderer being made into a hero. 3y
ChaoticMissAdventures I had not heard of this one, adding it. I am currently rewiring my brain on what white women have done with this one that Litsy has trouble finding but my library didn't - 3y
DGRachel @AmyG I saw one post from a journalist on Twitter and almost had to throw up. There are no words to express how I feel about what is happening in that trial. 3y
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DGRachel @ChaoticMissAdventures Just used my Litsy credit for that one. I think I‘m going to take a brain-rage break for a different audiobook, but then grab that one. Thanks for the recommendation! (edited) 3y
ChaoticMissAdventures @DGRachel @AmyG I watched part of it yesterday and it is horrifying. The pretend "crying" he did was so staged he kept side eyeing the jury, and that judge is basically just another defense attorney. 3y
ChaoticMissAdventures @DGRachel great! It is very well done, holistic is the word I keep thinking, she gives credit to what the white women advance but point out the ways they were not inclusive while talking about BIPOC peers that history has pretty much ignored. 3y
GingerAntics Still trying to figure out, all these years later, why Phil Collins is so into Texas history. 🤯🤯🤯 3y
DGRachel @GingerAntics Right?! Not only that, but why he is so insistent that his “artifacts” are legitimate even when some have been clearly proven to be fakes and:or not related to the Alamo. 3y
GingerAntics @DGRachel I hadn‘t heard that. I interned at the Texas Hall of State and he came all the way to Dallas (as apparently he does fairly regularly and has been through the collections department?!) to talk about the Alamo and his artefacts. You‘d think they‘d know he has fakes. 3y
DGRachel @GingerAntics It sounds like there‘s a combination of willful blindness, snake oil salesmen, and items whose provenance simply cannot be proven. 3y
GingerAntics @DGRachel 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ 3y
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WellReadCatLady
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Surprise surprise, what we learn in 7th grade Texas history is a revisionist version making white men and America the hero. Highly recommended to all Texans!

Smrloomis Oooh looks good 📚 3y
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Decalino
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This was an eye-opening, irreverent and highly readable account of the events that led to the Alamo and the extraordinary mythology that evolved around the battle in the century and a half that followed. Texas schools are required to teach the "heroic" version of the story, but nobody comes out of this looking great, not even Phil Collins (?!?) who is apparently an avid collector of Alamo memorabilia, some of it of dubious provenance. Who knew?

Leftcoastzen Nice review! I need to get to this one. 3y
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Addison_Reads
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This was such an informative read. It's well-written and researched making it accessible to readers without being dry.

I had a blast carrying this one with me while waiting in the doctor's office here in small town Texas.. 😀 Boy did I get some looks.

#DoubleSpin @TheAromaofBooks #BookSpinBingo

Reggie Lol, I bet! 3y
TheAromaofBooks Great progress!!! 3y
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Floresj
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I didn‘t know much about Texas history, but had heard the myths of the Alamo. This novel was interesting, in that, all the things I heard weren‘t based on fact. It was a really interesting history lesson of how Texas became a state, the battle of the Alamo and how media (Disney, etc) took the story and manipulated it into something else.

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Shakesteve
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This is a history of the history of the Alamo. It is a fascinating study of how the real facts of a disastrous battle were almost immediately distorted and used to recruit support for the continuing rebellion against Mexican rule in Texas. The story of the Alamo and its “heroes” has been mythologized by comics, tv and movies into a story of doomed patriots fighting in the name of freedom and American values. The real story is much darker.

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RamsFan1963
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"History Is Written By The Victorious." - attributed to Winston Churchill

Yes it's easy to see why Gov. Abbott and the white Texan officials dislike this book. It punches many holes in the rugged individualism, the larger than life, "everything's bigger in texas" mystique that they love so much. However trying to down play the heroics of non-white Alamo defenders, and trying to purge the role slavery played in the founding of Texas, is both ⬇️⬇️

RamsFan1963 sad and offensive. Which does Texas schools want to teach, mythology or history? 4 💥💥💥💥 3y
Andrew65 Well done 👏👏👏 3y
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KathyWheeler I was born in San Antonio and went to 4-7th grade there, so I was taught the mythology. I‘m really interested in this book. 3y
RamsFan1963 @KathyWheeler I thought the authors did a good job of being fair and balanced. 3y
KathyWheeler @RamsFan1963 That‘s good to hear. 3y
Leftcoastzen I heard an interview with the author on NPR . Definitely need to get to this one! 3y
BkClubCare Texas. Yep…. 3y
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Ericalambbrown
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I lived in San Antonio in the late 90‘s when some of the push to revisit the accepted creation myths of Texas heated up. Even back then the vitriol exuded by traditionalists was enough to make the argument to me that they were trying discourage real scholastic discourse. The 1st half of this book talks about the events leading up to the Alamo and the battle while the 2nd half talks about everything that has happened since. 👇🏻

Ericalambbrown I will definitely be checking out some of their sourcing and reading more. I can see why some folks are wound up. No one likes to read a “warts and all” about their heroes, even if what they‘ve been taught their whole life is less than honest. (edited) 3y
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AurorTonks
Forget the Alamo: The True Story of the Myth That Made Texas | Bryan Burrough, Chris Tomlinson, Jason Stanford

The book is a well-researched chronicle of the immigration of US citizens into the Spanish then Mexican area now known as Texas. What is irritating to many is that one of the stated reasons for the immigration was to continue the use of slaves to farm cotton. There were other reasons but that one looms large in this story. People do not like to have their beliefs (myths) questioned and this book does just that.

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DGRachel
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I just saw this on Instagram with a note that it had been banned by the Texas State History Museum (not sure that‘s accurate as all I could find was an article where they canceled a book release event because of social media backlash). I had to grab it. The question is - do I start it now or wait until Banned Books Week? 🤣🤣

marleed Oh interesting. I walked in front of the Alamo nearly everyday for 5 years so I‘m always interested in its history and believe it important to consider and research different perspectives. …I went to Catholic schools but sent my kids to public schools - I was fascinated by their 5th grade social studies - Christopher Columbus and Catholics had a different tell from a non-catholic perspective. Important lesson for me! 3y
GingerAntics This looks intriguing. I interned at the Dallas Historical Society. I‘m betting they would have had to cancel a book release event on this, too. 3y
Reggie I haven‘t read this but I heard about on the For Real podcast where it basically says all the white guys who were fighting the Mexicans were doing it because they wanted to keep slavery when by then Mexico had banned slavery for many years by that time. Lol, quite the different story we‘ve been told, right? 3y
DGRachel @Reggie So, so different and I‘m so mad that it‘s taken me so long to understand just how much our history books altered or concealed. 3y
Amiable I just picked this up too because I saw an article about an event with the authors being canceled because of protests. 3y
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