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The Shardlake Series buddy read is moving on to REVELATION. Any reading for this book in December counts toward #wintergames2024 readathon points if you're participating!

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dabbe Thanks for posting! 💙❄️💙 1d

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Revelation. C.J. Sansom | C J Sansom

Fabulous discussion this past Saturday, Shardlakians! Onward to REVELATION; see the schedule in the pic above. Any reading for this book in December counts toward #wintergames2024 readathon points if you're participating!
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Librarybelle Yay!! 1d

Mollyanna Looking forward to it! I still have a couple chapters left in Sovereign. Hoping to finish today or tomorrow. 12h

dabbe @Librarybelle 🤩🤗🤩 9h

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dabbe @Mollyanna 🤩🤗🤩 9h

lil1inblue Another book, another wife. 😅 Here we go! 6h

dabbe @lil1inblue Enter Catherine Parr! 🤩🤗🤩 5h

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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The 3rd installment of this brilliant series takes Matthew Shardlake to York to be part of Henry VIII's brutal suppression of Northern England known as the Progress. Shardlake finally gets to meet dear old Henry, and it does not go well. Add to that a mystery that involves possible proof of Henry's illegitimacy and multiple attempts on Shardlake's life, and you are in for a wild Tudor ride! #ShardlakeSeriesBR

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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Thoughts, Shardlakians?

LiseWorks I have the next book ready to start for Dec. Wonder what adventures and deceptions for Shardlake. Who is he going to work for this time around 4d

dabbe Rich has now been at the center of Shardlake's woes in two books; I see him more in the future, unfortunately. I was surprise to have felt sympathy for Radwinter at the end of it all. Tamasin is an interesting addition, too. She'll give Barak and Shardlake a run for their money and keep things interesting. 🤩 3d

kwmg40 I'm looking forward to seeing how the addition of Tamasin to the cast will play out. 3d

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dabbe @kwmg40 She's going to add some spark, I think! 🤩 2d

AnneCecilie I think that apart for some characters that didn‘t make it and some that was very of this book, I think we will meet the others again, Richard Rich, Cranmer and Tamasin 2d

dabbe @AnneCecilie 🎯!!! 2d

Deblovestoread We haven‘t seen the last of Rich I don‘t think although I HATE that guy. Think Tamasin will definitely make things lively. 24h

dabbe @Deblovestoread As Barak would say, he's an a-one “arse“! 😂 22h

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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Thoughts, Shardlakians?

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LiseWorks I would have done the same thing. This protects himself and everyone around him. This tudor world is crazy enough without him rocking the boat. 4d

OutsmartYourShelf I think it's easy for us to say it wasn't ethical, but in those times men & women paid with their lives (after facing torture) for their decisions, sometimes at the mere whim of a monarch. Shardlake has seen a conspiracy bring down Anne Boleyn because Henry was tired of her, & then his benefactor Cromwell when he fell out of favour. Can we blame him for protecting himself? 3d

dabbe @Liseworks @OutsmartYourShelf Agree 💯. I'm concurrently reading the canon of Sherlock Holmes, and there are many times where Holmes either A. lets the bad guy go free for ethical reasons or B. does not for the same reasons. Shardlake's situation is even more dire than late 1800s England, so he destroys the papers, allowing Henry to remain king. Even though Henry's a tyrant, better the one you know than the one you don't I guess. 3d

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lil1inblue Given all Shardlake went through up to that point, his choices make so much sense. I think facing torture really impacted him. He was done with the intrigue of the court. Releasing those papers would only have created chaos, and there was no guarantee how things would unfold, or how it would put him in danger. 3d

dabbe @lil1inblue I agree. Re: King Henry, better the devil you know than the devil you don't. England was in such a precarious position in Europe at that time, too. Shardlake impresses me more and more with his willingness to do the right thing for the good of all--even if it's a personal sacrifice. 3d

kwmg40 Shardlake does seem to be able to look at the bigger picture. At the end, he just seemed to want peace in his life. 3d

AnneCecilie I guess I can understand the wish to protect yourself. 2d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes Nothing good can come of those papers going public. The only sure thing is a blood bath, which really won‘t be over legitimate blood lines, but of Catholic vs Protestants. Shardlake knows what he‘s done will haunt him. He had to choose between two evils, so he chose the one that kept the (precarious) peace. He has no guarantee what he‘s done won‘t be discovered in the future, so that threat will always haunt him. 2d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes Excellent observations. 2d

Deblovestoread His self preservation is strong! And releasing those papers would have created chaos and likely ended in his death….Henry wouldn‘t have allowed him to live. 24h

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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Thoughts, Shardlakians?

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OutsmartYourShelf Being an outsider in Tudor society, due to his physical disability, has probably made him susceptible to those who seem to show him genuine friendship. Shardlake also worries about losing Barak's friendship even though he is supposed to be an employee. 4d

LiseWorks I think he has such a soft heart that he believes the good in everyone. That probably makes him a good lawyer for the little guy. And yes, he seems hungry for friendship 4d

Karisimo And recently losing his father and the regrets he had in that relationship made him vulnerable 4d

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dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf @LiseWorks @Karisimo 🎯!!! As the books continue, my heart goes out more and more to him. He wants to much to love and be loved, and I think he feels left out now that Barak has Tamasin. I want him to find someone, dammit! 🤩 3d

lil1inblue I think the timing of his father's death deeply impacted his judgment of Wrenne. It seems he hadn't yet finished grieving, and then finds a father figure who is understanding of the choices that he feels guilt over. And one who seemingly made similar choices.
As the books progress, it does seem that Shardlake has a hard time understanding women. I think it is because of his history, and his self-consciousness over his disability. 3d

dabbe @lil1inblue Agree 💯! 3d

kwmg40 It does seem like a vulnerable time in Shardlake's life, with the loneliness making him more eager to trust. 3d

AnneCecilie I completely agree with you @lil1inblue when it comes to Wrenne. When it comes to Jennet Marlin, didn‘t she remind him of a childhood friend and had him think about what could have been? (edited) 2d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes I think Shardlake finds in Wynne the father he wished he‘d had because they have more in common than Shardlake ever had with his own father. Also, his own father was embarrassed by Shardlake‘s hunchback and disappointed he wanted nothing to do with the family farm. Wynne is everything Shardlake‘s own father was not. (edited) 2d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes As to females-they are a mystery he can‘t crack. Probably because he grew up without any female influence. If I remember right, his mother died when he was young? He didn‘t have any sisters, so there‘s no experience in dealing with women. I also think societal expectations came into play. Women were deceitful, but not murderers. 2d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes Plus he's extremely conscious of his back, so that makes him even more vulnerable. 2d

lil1inblue @AnneCecilie Yes, she did! I hadn't even thought about that part. 1d

Deblovestoread I agree with all. He is someone who wants to love, wants connection beyond the superficial. I want it for him,too. 24h

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks No. Shardlake does what he is told, yet he has morals, so he will not go that far. 4d

dabbe @LiseWorks Agree 💯. He strikes me as an extremely reasonable man who won't be taken in my any religious fervor anymore after all that he's been through. 3d

lil1inblue I don't think that Shardlake ultimately would make the same choices as Wrenne, despite the circumstances. I think that Shardlake's ultimate refusal to join Wrenne showed that there was something more to his character. He seemed more able to see beyond his personal grievances and see the bigger picture. But Wrenne was so focused on his mission he couldn't pull back and see the larger consequences. 3d

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dabbe @lil1inblue It's interesting to see how some people can turn into zealots about a cause and others are able to “see the bigger picture“ as you so aptly put it. 3d

kwmg40 I'd like to think that Shardlake would not make the same choices. He seems more thoughtful and empathetic. 3d

dabbe @kwmg40 Agree 💯! 2d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes I don‘t think so. Shardlake, because of his deformity, knows what it is like to be on the receiving end of bullying, to be despised, treated with suspicion etc. I don‘t think he has it in him to do the same to others. 2d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes 🎯!!! 2d

AnneCecilie Like everyone else, I don‘t think he would. But at the same time, a Shadlake before the first book, who really believed in something, you never know. 2d

dabbe @AnneCecilie #truth 2d

Deblovestoread I think there is a moral backbone that would make it hard for him but he serves at the pleasure of someone with power so outright refusal would be difficult or life ending. 24h

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Sovereign. C.J. Sansom (Revised) | C J Sansom

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LiseWorks I liked this one. I'm seeing the king in a whole new light. 4d

Librarybelle I‘m so behind! Can we make an eighth day of the week for just reading??? 😂 4d

PurpleyPumpkin Ditto what @Librarybelle said! But I‘m enjoying the series and still maintain hope at catching up. We‘ll get there Jess!😅 3d

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Librarybelle Yes we will, @PurpleyPumpkin ! 3d

dabbe No worries @PurpleyPumpkin and @Librarybelle. Read when you can! I'm glad you're liking the series! 🤩🤗🤩 3d

dabbe @LiseWorks He was terrifying and disgusting all at the same time. I think what made him even more repulsive (besides the oozing leg 🤢) was his high-pitched voice. 😱 3d

lil1inblue I liked the complexity of this one. There were so many threads to to follow. While it felt darker than the first two books, it was a riveting read. I was also intrigued by the Cecily Neville bit and how it was woven into the story. 3d

dabbe @lil1inblue I need to find a really good book on the Lancasters vs. the Yorks. It's so confusing! 😂 3d

kwmg40 I really liked this one. I thought that the setting during the Progress was an interesting one and the characters continue to develop in interesting ways. 3d

Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes This is a great continuation of the series. The cast of characters can be a bit overwhelming at times. I also like the complexity of multiple storylines. I also find I‘m always looking things up as I read. What also strikes me is the brutality of the time. The Tower. Burnings. 2d

dabbe @Cheryl_Russell_BookNotes So much brutality, especially with the animals! And seeing Shardlake in the Tower! 😱 2d

AnneCecilie Another winner. We get to know Shardlake and Barak more, and I love getting to know characters better and better as a series continue. Also learning more about the Tudor time. 2d

dabbe @AnneCecilie Yay! 💙❄️💙 2d

lil1inblue @dabbe Right! If you find one, let me know! 1d

Deblovestoread This one had a lot going on but it kept me interested. I'm always fascinated to learn more about this period and think Samson does a good job of describing time and place and gives fleshed out characters 1d

dabbe @Deblovestoread Even though the brutality was beyond horrific in this one, WOW! does he write it like it was. I used to want to live in those times so I could wear those long pretty dresses (because I'd be of nobility, of course). I should have had to walk around with the word “NAIVE“ on my forehead until at least my 20s. 😂 1d

Deblovestoread @dabbe Same! I think my first introduction to the time period seemed all glamorous, further reading made me come to my senses. 24h

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Sovereign | C. J. Sansom

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n the autumn of 1541, Henry VIII is on progress to the North of England & will be staying at York, seat of a rebellion a few years back. Shardlake has already been employed to hear legal cases in the city, but before he leaves he is called before Archbishop Cranmer & given another task. Cranmer wants him to oversee the welfare of a prisoner being transported to London for questioning. (Continued)

OutsmartYourShelf Cromwell may have fallen but those involved in the machinations of government are loathe to let Shardlake go that easily. When they reach York the locals are unhappy & most are unfriendly, & when a local man is murdered, the investigation takes Shardlake to the very top of the English court & a historic conspiracy is unmasked.

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OutsmartYourShelf I have mixed feelings about this one. I thought the main case itself was interesting & there are some loathsome characters involved. My issue is the amount of animal cruelty/death involved - I know these things took place then but it can be kept to a minimum & still be 'authentic' in respect of the times. Here there was too much about the bear baiting & dogs being killed & it had very little to do with the conspiracy taking place. 4d

OutsmartYourShelf It's something that I really hate reading about & it spoils my enjoyment of the mystery to be honest. For that reason, my rating is “average“ for this one. 3⭐

Full Review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4302019186
Read 29th Oct - 28th Nov 2024

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dabbe It was quite brutal, wasn't it? It should have come with a trigger warning or two, right? 💛🤎🧡 4d

OutsmartYourShelf @dabbe Definitely. It‘s one of my major triggers too. I try & avoid books with animals in them just in case the author decides to kill them off. 4d

dabbe @OutsmartYourShelf I am so sorry to have caused you any grief! 😔 4d

Andrew65 Well done 👏👏👏 4d

OutsmartYourShelf @dabbe You haven‘t at all, I decided to read them. I‘ll be fine now I‘ve moved onto a new book. 4d

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Daisey

Sovereign | C J Sansom

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This series is so good! Shardlake gets himself into all kinds of trouble in this book, and I enjoyed reading all of it. I like the dynamic between Shardlake and Barak as well as the mystery. I also appreciate learning more of the detail of the history of this time period.

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dabbe I'm loving the reread, too! I just love the characters so much. Can't wait for next week's discussion! 🤩🤗🤩 1w

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