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Babel-17
Babel-17 | Samuel R. Delany
In the far future, after human civilization has spread through the galaxy, communications begin to arrive in an apparently alien language. They appear to threaten invasion, but in order to counter the threat, the messages must first be understood.
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rwmg
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I liked the linguistics (despite the heavy reliance on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis) and Rydra's recruiting of her crew and their interactions. The space battles left me cold apart from giggling at the strategy names. The ending seemed very perfunctory, as if the author had been having too much fun and suddenly realised he had now got to end it somehow. If I have to choose between a pick and a so-so, it will be a somewhat grudging pick.

Herschelian Oh that is good - grudging pick! Can I please nick it off you to use as a regular rating? 9mo
rwmg @Herschelian sure, go ahead 9mo
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rwmg
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Poolside reading

RamsFan1963 @rwmg How are you liking it? I've always found Delany a hard author to read. 9mo
rwmg @RamsFan1963 I'm only about 1/3 of the way through it but keeping my head above water so far. I had more problems trying to work out what the intro explaining why it's a classic was talking about. 9mo
RamsFan1963 @rwmg Have you read Dahlgren? I love the book, but it's in no way an easy read. It's worth the effort, but at times I wondered why I was continuing to read something that was such a struggle. 9mo
rwmg @RamsFan1963 as far as I remember, this is the first of his I've read 9mo
rwmg @RamsFan1963 A bit of a slog in places, and I thought the ending was rather perfunctory, but enough good things in it to make it a pick. 9mo
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rretzler
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Love this whole passage of several pages where Rydra is trying to teach The Butcher the concept of “I” and “you” and he gets it backwards. Really makes one wonder how one‘s brain just seems to know the difference.

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rretzler
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Enjoyed this Nebula winner. The writing wasn‘t perfect, but the author gives one a lot to contemplate about language. For instance, if there is not a word for an item in your language, how can you begin to think about it and how will that object be different to you than it is for one whose language has that word. Favorite passage is when Rydra tries to teach The Butcher the difference between “I” and “you” and he gets it backwards. 4/5⭐️ #2019

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Puredragonstar
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So this semester I‘ve had to read some good and not so good sci-fi classics, let me tell you this was FANTASTIC! The story is about Language and what it can do. I really fell in love with the characters and it held my interest the whole way through! The narrator was just great! #wouldrecommend

AlaMich I have this on my Kindle because I‘m a language 🤓. Glad to hear it‘s good! 2y
DivaDiane I read this one off my TBR last year and loved it too! Total language nerd here too. Music nerd also and I geek for SF, so it scratched all my itches. 2y
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threadmangler
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IT‘S A PORT CITY. Here fumes rust the sky, the General thought. Industrial gases flushed the evening with oranges, salmons, purples with too much red.

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Fedaykin
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An individual, a thing apart from its environment, and apart from all things in that environment; an individual was a type of thing for which symbols were inadequate, and so names were invented. I am invented. #blackwriters #riotgrams

2BR02B Yaaassss Chip! ❤ 2y
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hlgreenfield
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My quest to read all the great sci-fi classics continues! Hope this one lives up to the reputation! The premise certainly sounds interesting!!

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JamesChatham
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I was tagged by @shawnmooney to do the #10AuthorRecommendations! No particular order, but I love everything I‘ve read from each of these authors. Thanks for the tag, Shawn!

ReadingEnvy Catherynne Valente is on my list too, although her last few books have me waivering a bit. 2y
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rwmg
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VioletBramble Where is this? 3y
rwmg Perth, Western Australia http://www.whitedwarfbooks.com/ 3y
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