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GingerAntics
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This is a beautiful edition of Shakespeare‘s poetry. It also includes “Sonnets to Sundry Notes of Music” which I‘ve never seen included with Shakespeare‘s poetry before.
#shakespearereadalong #Shakespeare #Sonnets #NarrativePoems #poetry

GingerAntics “Sonnets to Sundry Notes of Music” may or may not have been written by Shakespeare. It seems everything I can find attributes the text to “W. Shakespeare,” but I‘ve also read an article on the university of Iowa‘s website saying it‘s not. 🤷🏼‍♀️ it would be interesting to read it with the Shakespeare read along group, just to discuss if we felt like it was Shakes or not. 2y
Graywacke I‘m down, although I currently only own a sonnet collection. Thinking more, I‘m reading Petrarch now, so it would be a perfect year for me to read these sonnets. 😁 2y
GingerAntics @Graywacke at one point we talked about reading the sonnets when we got through all the plays. I read the sonnets back in 2019 maybe. The whole time I was trying to figure out how we would divide them up. It‘ll take some discussion, I think. I‘d be open to doing them this year. R&J has ties to Petrarch as well (wrote a paper on it in 2015), but I don‘t know if the group has read that one. 2y
Graywacke I don‘t think we‘ve done R&J. Cool. We can divide sonnets up by some weekly reasonable amount. Like 5 a week, or maybe 7 so we can all read one a day. 🙂 Would take a while that way, of course. 2y
GingerAntics @Graywacke it would, but then it would be totally reasonable to read them simultaneously with plays. That‘s good thinking. We may have to get a little more creative with the narrative poems. I‘m not sure how long those actually are. I‘ll have to check. 2y
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GingerAntics
Sonnets and Other Poems | William Shakespeare
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Lines 37-42
She‘s the aggressor. Apparently, Shakespeare liked his women feisty. 😏
#Shakespeare #narrativepoems #venusandadonis

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GingerAntics
Sonnets and Other Poems | William Shakespeare
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Lines 31-36
Love how the traditional roles of the passionate male and the cold female are reversed. She‘s passionate, and he‘s cold.
#Shakespeare #narrativepoems #venusandadonis

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GingerAntics
Sonnets and Other Poems | William Shakespeare
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This intro is SO informative, and very interesting. I also just read that I probably should have read the narrative poems BEFORE the sonnets, because they sonnets refer back to the narrative poems at times. Oops.

#poetry #shakespeare #sonnets #narrativepoems #sonnetsandotherpoems

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GingerAntics
The Sonnets and Narrative Poems | William Shakespeare
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I‘ve survived the sonnets - all 154 of them. Now on to the Narrative Poems. I feel like these are going to be more up my ally. I guess we will see. #shakespeare #sonnets #narrativepoems #poetry #isurvived

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GingerAntics
The Sonnets and Narrative Poems | William Shakespeare
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After reading a lovely little blog post about the feminist threads of some of Shakespeare‘s narrative poems, it might just be time to sit down and read them. Apparently, Shakespeare was groundbreaking and advanced for his time in the way he talked about women‘s agency and lives. #shakespeare #sonnets #narrativepoems #venusandadonis #therapeoflucree

https://hammaclet.tumblr.com/post/175644496729/its-been-a-while-since-i-last-rea...

GingerAntics @merelybookish @CoffeeNBooks @cocomass @TheBookHippie @CSeydel @wanderinglynn @Lcsmcat @Rachbb3 @InLibrisVeritas @batsy @Bookishgal71 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookishBelle @JennAndrew @Gezemice @BiblioLitten @KatieanneF @readinginthedark @Jess_Read_This apparently us wondering if Shakespeare intended to be a bit of a feminist in some of his plays or if it‘s us reading our own time into them might have actually been intentional on Shakes‘s part. 5y
GingerAntics Go figure. 5y
KatieanneF I absolutely think Shakespeare was a feminist! I think if you look at his comedies, especially, you see strong, forward thinking characters. He was ahead of his time and I think his more dense works generally get more credit than his lighter stuff, but it is equally valuable and insightful 👍🏻🌟 5y
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GingerAntics @KatieanneF oh I totally agree. He probably wouldn‘t recognise the word “feminist,” but I imagine the concept was something he was all about. He seems to have enjoyed writing strong female characters. 5y
KatieanneF @GingerAntics I think so too! There is also a lot of research supporting the idea that more women “snuck” onstage than is widely recognized. It seems that in these cases, he turned a blind eye, or perhaps even encouraged undercover females to be onstage. I just played Viola in a stage adaptation of Shakespeare in Love and read a lot on that topic during the process. So interesting!! 5y
GingerAntics @KatieanneF I‘ve read a little bit about that. It would be so cool to be able to be a fly on the wall at the Globe theatre in those days. He did like to push the envelope with the authorities, so that would be one more way to do it, with a very difficult process of proving it was really a woman. It‘s not like you could just go lift up someone‘s skirt in public. lol 5y
Jess_Read_This I love your edition of this book. I would love a further exploration into his feminist support; even though like you said, he wouldn‘t have recognized that word. I wonder what prompted him to be divergent from the majority of the males in that time! 5y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This I‘m right there with you. Of course he never could have known that he needed to write down his thoughts/ideas about it at the time. Modern psychologists say that in The Rape of Lucrece his depiction of what she goes through after the rape is SO accurate, that for someone to recognise that in that time period when women were legally blamed is just amazing. 5y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This thanks, I actually stumbled upon it at Half Price Books. It was such a lovely edition I couldn‘t pass it up. I think I paid less than $5 for it. Now the intro essay and the essay at the end have tons of notes and highlights in them from when I used it for a paper for one of my Shakespeare classes when I was getting my masters. My prof loved that I was taking a Shakespeare class as stress relief. lol 5y
Jess_Read_This @GingerAntics I haven‘t read The Rape of Lucrece. I‘m going to now. Wow. If he was so accurate in the aftermath, I wonder about his experiences that allowed him to be supportive of women. There‘s too much unknowns for me! I need answers.. lol. The more I‘m learning about the man, the more amazed I find myself. 5y
GingerAntics @Jess_Read_This EXACTLY!!! I‘m right there with you!!! I‘ve literally had that thought. Did something happen to him? His mother? Sister? Wife? Daughter? How did he come up with this stuff?! I haven‘t read it yet either. We‘re looking at possibly waiting until August for R2, so I‘m thinking that‘s the perfect time to read the sonnets and narrative poems. 5y
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