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Some People Need Killing
Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in My Country | Patricia Evangelista
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A fearless, powerfully written on-the-ground account of a nation careening into violent autocracytold through harrowing stories of the Philippines state-sanctioned killings of its citizensfrom a journalist of international renown Tragic, elegant, vital . . . Evangelista risked her life to tell this story.Tara Westover, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Educated My job is to go to places where people die. I pack my bags, talk to the survivors, write my stories, then go home to wait for the next catastrophe. I dont wait very long. Journalist Patricia Evangelista came of age in the aftermath of a street revolution that forged a new future for the Philippines. Three decades later, in the face of mounting inequality, the nation discovered the fragility of its democratic institutions under the regime of strongman Rodrigo Duterte. Some People Need Killing is Evangelistas meticulously reported and deeply human chronicle of the Philippines drug war. For six years, Evangelista chronicled the killings carried out by police and vigilantes in the name of Dutertes war on drugsa war that has led to the slaughter of thousandsimmersing herself in the world of killers and survivors and capturing the atmosphere of fear created when an elected president decides that some lives are worth less than others. The book takes its title from a vigilante whose words seemed to reflect the psychological accommodation that most of the country had made: Im really not a bad guy, he said. Im not all bad. Some people need killing. A profound act of witness and a tour de force of literary journalism, Some People Need Killing is also a brilliant dissection of the grammar of violence and an important investigation of the human impulses to dominate and resist.
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“There were corpses every night at the height of the killings. Seven, twelve, twenty-six, the brutality reduced to a paragraph, sometimes only a sentence each. The language failed as the body count rose.”

So #gruesome, it's hard to believe it's non-fiction.

#WickedWhispers

Eggs Wow 🖤🩸🖤 3mo
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Centique
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I havent read enough non fiction this year so i picked this up. This is one of those “WTF” books where i was constantly reading bits to my husband - saying “listen to this, you won‘t believe it”. It turns out that when Dutertes said in the election campaign that he would kill a lot of people, it wasnt an exaggeration. The drug war he initiated created state sponsored killing squads, with no requirements for justice or legal process ⬇️

Centique & the results are even worse than you might imagine. The bravery of reporters like Evangelista in the field covering these crimes is astounding. 5mo
willaful They say it straight out and somehow people don't believe them. Happening right now. 5mo
TrishB I have this one and need to read too! 5mo
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Centique @willaful i was drawing those same parallels as i was reading! 😱 5mo
Centique @TrishB i think you‘ll get a lot out of this. I hope Evangelista one day writes a memoir or more about what her life as a reporter was like. Theres a bit of her personal story but it would be fascinating to know more. 5mo
Billypar It's strange because I remember this as the briefest of news soundbites, but never heard any details about something so horrific. Will have to check out! 5mo
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AnneCecilie
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I remember some speeches on the news that Duterte made either in the election campaign or as president, and I thought it sounded crazy and not possible.

Reading this, I realized that the reality is way worse. Duterte not only followed through when he declared war on drugs and said it was okey to kill users and sellers, he had already been doing that for 30 yrs as the Mayor of Davao City.

We follow victims, next of kin and the police reports

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21-3 June 24 (audiobook)
Evangelista tells of Duterte‘s presidency and the large number of killings at the hands of vigilantes and official police from the perspective of her role as a trauma reporter. It is shocking and relentless. At times I found myself thinking it was all a bit repetitive but then reflecting upon what that actually meant - thousands of people who were considered undesirable for whatever reason dying or disappearing.

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An incredible book. So glad it was on the Women's Prize long list for non-fiction. It wasn't on my radar before it was listed. I learned not only a lot about Duterte and his murder squads, but also about the Philippines as a country.
Evangelista is a bad ass. Most reporters in the Philippines are women, covering horrific stories and keeping the public aware. I am in awe of her.
The book itself is not only well written but also well laid out.

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“Dead is a good word for a journalist in the age of Duterte. Dead doesn‘t negotiate, requires little verification. Dead is a sure thing, has bones, skin, and flesh, can be touched and seen and photographed and blurred for broadcast. Dead, whether it‘s 44 or 58 or 27,000 or 1, is dead.”

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“Slaughter dressed up in bureaucratese dulls the senses, and over time can anesthetize an entire population to the horror happening right where they live. Objective reality is winnowed away by each succeeding government report. The dead perish again, into nonexistence.”

This book has been extremely enlightening, especially around langauge and the Phillipeans. They were colonized by the Spanish and the US which has created a unique use of words

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ChaoticMissAdventures
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#weeklyforecast
We are going red and orange this week.
Listening to the tagged on audio.

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GatheringBooks
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#SpringSkies Day 12: there is a #VillainPOV here with the voices of murderers - who actually believe they are doing a public good - in this chilling journalistic memoir. Perhaps the act of writing this book was to cleanse herself of the toxicity of victims who sing out the praises of their children‘s murderers and call former President Duterte Tatay. My full review here: https://wp.me/pDlzr-qgX

Eggs Lovely presentation ❣️ 8mo
lil1inblue That salad looks amazing! I'm hungry now. 8mo
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GatheringBooks
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#ItTakesAllKinds Day 5: #FandNFwithSameTopic - both award winning fiction and nonfiction books about the Drug War in the Philippines. Truly horrendous.

Hooked_on_books I‘ve read both of these and they are an excellent pairing. 10mo
Eggs Great pairing 👏🏻👏🏻 10mo
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This was a truly eye-opening read; although I was vaguely aware of Rodrigo Duterte's fascist policies & his "war on drugs" & its immense costs, this book put that war into stark context. Grim & utterly brutal. The violence is shocking, but the thing that is most chilling is how people voted for him, & for the most part, took the killings in stride & somehow even lauded it. Evangelista highlights how there was a breaking point for some; but the

batsy fact of the matter is that many people supported him & welcomed his threats of killing people off because the undesirables, the poor, the underclass, were considered fair game. It really drives home how fascist policies gain traction all over the world. Some lines that stand out: "Maybe those who had voted for death thought they had voted for a metaphor". Or, "The truth was simpler: It takes longer to type a sentence than it does to kill a man". 10mo
vivastory Terrific review. It was chilling to see support for Duerte (although sadly not entirely surprising) among far right in the states. 10mo
batsy @vivastory Thank you. It's a super tough and essential read. Just can't stop thinking about how easy it is for many people to support this. 10mo
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squirrelbrain Great review - I‘ll get to this one soon…. 10mo
batsy @squirrelbrain Thank you. Look forward to your thoughts! 10mo
Suet624 Thank you for this review. It's unreal how people in the US seem to be moving in that direction. 10mo
GatheringBooks Reading this enraged me, and left me feeling utterly helpless. 8mo
batsy @GatheringBooks Super hard to come to terms with the fact that many people were on board with Duterte's kill tactics until it affected someone who reminded them of a person they know. It's like, how did you get to a point where you can casually dehumanise groups of people? 8mo
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Such a great (grim) read. The author recounts her experiences as a journalist as a government-sanctioned "drug war" in thr Phillipines led to executions of thousands of people by the police and paid killers.

Hoping all the #WomensPrize NF list I pick up will be as compelling.

batsy I just finished this, too. A difficult book but written with such clarity. 10mo
squirrelbrain I‘m going to start this one soon…. Along with *all* of the other NF nominees I‘m also reading…🤓 10mo
charl08 @batsy @squirrelbrain Following this, I may have put in a completely unrealistic number of requests to the library for NF... 10mo
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Political signage is not rare in the Philippines. Graduation congratulations and Christmas greetings on tarpaulin banners are holiday standbys. Plastic tents—the sort borrowed for wakes, feeding programs, and mass weddings—are routinely printed with the faces of current officials. There are sidewalks in my city tiled with the mayor‘s initials. This, however, was the first time any of us had seen government compassion advertised on a coffin lid.

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#bookreport Started and finished the top 3.

#weeklyforecast Finish Storm Front, Continue Restoration Britain, Start The Dictionary People, and maybe How to Say Babylon.

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A Reuters investigation concluded that “data on the total number of drug users, the number of users needing treatment, the types of drugs being consumed and the prevalence of drug-related crime is exaggerated, flawed or non-existent.” ....
“I don‘t see it as a problem,” Wilkins Villanueva, PDEA‘s Metro Manila regional director, told Reuters. The president “just exaggerates it so we will know that the problem is very big.”

ChaoticMissAdventures Wow. This is on my list, but the library list here is very long. I feel like it is an important read but will make me very mad. 10mo
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Such a difficult read! I cannot believe the widespread and widely accepted state sanctioned killings that occurred in the Philippines during Rodrigo Duterte‘s era. He threatened to take care of the drug problem in his country if he would be elected by any means necessary. Evangelista‘s amazing reporting shows just how far he went and how dangerous and destructive his actions were. The book is full of heartbreaking and personal stories of murders.

TheKidUpstairs I'm on hold for this one! I told myself I wasn't going to try and read the #WomensPrizeNonfiction long list, but then they all sound so good! 10mo
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...seven days before the elections. It ended with a warning: “If Rodrigo Duterte wins,” we wrote, “his dictatorship will not be thrust upon us.... Duterte‘s contempt for human rights, due process, and equal protection is legitimized by the applause at the end of every speech. We write this as a warning. The streets will run red if Rodrigo Duterte keeps his promise. Take him at his word—and know you could be next.”

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I believed in democracy much the same way I believed in short sentences and small words.

Texreader Oh this looks like a very sad book!! 10mo
charl08 @Texreader yes, definitely a tragic topic. She writes so well, I was thinking I would struggle with engaging with it, but finding it accessible despite complete lack of any knowledge about the context. 10mo
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Deal on UK price of kindle issue.

#WomensPrizeNF
#KindleDealUK

@squirrelbrain

squirrelbrain Oh, well spotted! I found it (and started it) already on Everand. Tagging @youneverarrived @jenniferw88 @leniverse @rockpools but not sure how many other UK Littens are reading the list. 10mo
TrishB I got it, but not reading the list and will probably be on my kindle for ever 😁 10mo
charl08 @squirrelbrain @TrishB Now I just have to read the thing! 10mo
youneverarrived Thanks Helen @squirrelbrain I‘ve bought it 😁 10mo
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Facts.
- The Women‘s Prize for Non-Fiction Longlist was announced last night.
- I am absolutely not reading it.
- Apart from the tagged, which I started, & am finding gripping, heart-breaking, and terrifying. Now I‘m into it, I love her voice.
- I might have reserved 4 others. Thankfully the library catalogue went down for maintenance at that point.
- I think this might be a prize we actually need.
- But I‘m absolutely not reading the longlist.

Hooked_on_books Keep telling yourself you‘re not reading the list. Maybe you‘ll start to believe it. 😂 10mo
batsy Ha 😆 I've placed a hold on the tagged book, I'm sure it's going to be a tough read. 10mo
youneverarrived 🤣🤣 10mo
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julesG I'm probably getting a few of the books on the long-list, but I'm not sure I'll read them before next year's long-list is announced. 10mo
squirrelbrain I‘m also NOT reading the list, and definitely don‘t have two of the biggest, chunksteriest books arriving today… 10mo
lil1inblue Oh no, there goes my weekend. 😂 10mo
Ruthiella You are absolutely not reading the longlist! 😂😂😂 10mo
Aimeesue lol. Whoops. 10mo
rockpools @squirrelbrain Ooh. Which? Shadows at Noon and…? 10mo
squirrelbrain …and Eve. Just about to post about them! 😃 10mo
jlhammar 😂 Love it. I was already interested in reading several of these (especially Thunderclap since I really enjoyed Cumming's last book), but this definitely added a few more to my TBR! 10mo
rockpools @Hooked_on_books 😂 I‘m absolutely not reading this list! 🙃 10mo
rockpools @batsy I wasn‘t too sure about it from the blurb, but I‘m finding it a really good, really tough read. And I‘ve discovered that I know NOTHING about the Philippines. 10mo
rockpools @youneverarrived 🤷🏻‍♀️😘 10mo
rockpools @julesG To be fair, I only said I‘d reserved 4 books. Definitely didn‘t say I‘d read them. But yes, that sounds about right tbh - my enthusiasm will probably dwindle after the first one. 10mo
rockpools @Aimeesue who? Me??! 10mo
rockpools @lil1inblue 😂😂 Have fun! 10mo
rockpools @Ruthiella Nope. Definitely not doing that. Glad we‘re clear 😘 10mo
rockpools @jlhammar ooh, now, I must admit I haven‘t really explored Thunderclap yet. I‘ll have to go and look at that too… But yes, there are a lot of things on here I actually want to read (rather than just feeling I should…) 10mo
Centique Im so glad theyre doing nonfiction now 🙌 I look forward to reading your reviews - and ill probably pick one at random to read along the way 😂 10mo
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I can see why the NYT included this in its top 10 of the year for 2023. It is a memoir by a Filipina reporter documenting her experiences following the state-sanctioned extra-judicial killings under Duterte. It‘s an imperfect book, unnecessarily repetitive in places, but as a documentation of widespread injustice, it‘s a vital document. As you can imagine, it‘s a brutal read.

GatheringBooks Gosh you finished earlier than I did - am finding it difficult to get through 😭 12mo
Hooked_on_books @GatheringBooks I listened to the audio and I use high speed, so that helps. Even so, I almost stopped it to listen to something else in between. It‘s unrelenting and hard. It‘s definitely a good one to take breaks from. 12mo
vivastory This sounds interesting. Especially disturbing since some far right wingers (including MAGA) have lauded Duerter's policies 12mo
Hooked_on_books @vivastory That is at the same time deeply disturbing and sadly unsurprising. 12mo
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GatheringBooks
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#NewYearNewBooks Day 1: With extrajudicial, state-sanctioned killing, it is inevitable that there will be #MissingPerson(s) because of the avid belief that some people need killing. This book is breaking my heart into little bits and pieces. Now back in the UAE and I hope to be more present in Litsy compared to the past few weeks when everything was such a blur before returning home to our haven in Al Ain.

Eggs Wow a somber situation 😞 12mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks This is a beautiful photo 📚❤️ 12mo
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This memoir reads like a dystopia, but chronicles the Philippines drug war. It‘s graphic, and the title warns you that there will be indiscriminate killing. Though it‘s heartbreaking, it‘s believable. I can absolutely believe/imagine voters supporting a candidate who promises to clean up the streets witb an iron fist and kill addicts, drug pushers and thieves. Added bonus of the book: quick synopsis of Phillipine history.

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#DecemberDreams Day 19: I am sure I can tell who is #NaughtyOrNice in this journalistic memoir of murder. Must read while in Manila.

Eggs Excellent 👌🏼 12mo
batsy Ooh! I recently added this to the tbr. 12mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Beautiful photo! 12mo
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GatheringBooks
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#HumbleHarvest Day 10: Always a #Feast of soup and salad from Olive Garden whenever we go to the US. 💕 Our fave restaurant here. AND finally found a copy of tagged book at the Barnes and Noble here in Florida (of all places!!).

Bookwormjillk My kids make fun of me, but soup, salad, and breadsticks can't be beat in my opinion. 13mo
GatheringBooks @Bookwormjillk right? We usually just end up having the main course for takeaway because the soup and salad are just so delicious. 💕💕💕 13mo
kelli7990 I love Olive Garden. 13mo
Eggs It‘s so satisfying 👌🏼 13mo
Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Looks delicious 😋 13mo
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