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Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate | Anna Bogutskaya

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Has English come up with any secular equivalents for the phrase 'preaching to the choir/converted?' It's the strongest feeling I had while reading this: I'm glad it exists, I'm not sure I needed to read it.
I will say, I was not familiar with all examples of media (film/television) discussed, but the author did a great job of summarizing each such that I never felt like I was unable to follow the thread - 1/?

Robotswithpersonality 2/? why that example was provided for the trope being discussed.
I like that there was an evolution tracked in each chapter, the history of the trope/stereotype in Hollywood, edging into pop culture and society, how it has evolved, hopefully with a more nuanced approach, how various journalism/scholarship has started to examine each of these archetypes, though there are examples throughout history of savvy women aware of these roles, 1w

Robotswithpersonality 3/? their possibilities and pitfalls, how the types mostly emerge from misogynistic/patriarchal thinking and can reinforce negative views, and how they may be subverted.
Some repeating themes:
How these types have been part of internalized misogyny, pitting women against other women, against female characters, how the type in fiction bleeds out and can be indiscriminately used to tarnish the actress/celebrity associated with a role. 1w

Robotswithpersonality 4/? So, so many examples of the double standard, behaviour in male characters praised, while similar behaviour in female characters lines them up for a negative label, (though there are moments where actresses gain critical acclaim, where the character is loved for her unconventionality, where maybe the absolute of 'men this, women that' is blurred); 1w

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Robotswithpersonality 5/? acknowledgement of the further reductive stereotypes applying to women of colour, how even within the range of juicy unlikeable roles that may be controversial or may be award fodder, it's historically only been available to white women who fit a narrow beauty standard; reclamation of some terms but not others, author is not alone in having a complicated relationship with some of the words used. 1w

Robotswithpersonality 6/? I do feel a little like the message is already out there, though obviously, quoted short form journalism vs a book may reach different audiences, and just because I feel it's acknowledged fact doesn't mean there isn't a large swath of the population the author knows is unaware and needs to be schooled. 1w

Robotswithpersonality 7/7 I think most of all Bogutskaya had a great time discussing female characters from film and television that were formative in their portrayals, if not completely unproblematic, and in many cases need a second glance because they may have been overlooked/unfairly maligned when first seen on screen.
⚠️SA, misogyny 1w

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Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate | Anna Bogutskaya

“We can't avoid being influenced by the stories we see onscreen, but we also have the power to influence the stories that are made.“

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Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate | Anna Bogutskaya

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Freaks, Gleeks, and Dawson's Creek: How Seven Teen Shows Transformed Television | Thea Glassman

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This felt like 6 shows that had adults playing teens, and 1 that actually cast teens. After Fresh Prince, So-Called, and Dawson‘s, it felt like the book deteriorated into ways show business is horrible to people - people in show business, fans, and people in general - and how that was expressed in the next four shows.
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GingerAntics There was a lot of “no one had ever done this before,” but she said the exact same thing about the show before it when it did pretty much the same thing. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 1mo

GingerAntics Maybe I‘m not the target audience? I grew up watching Fresh Prince and Dawson‘s Creek. The rest of the shows I never watched and hadn‘t even heard of some of them. I have seen some episodes of Friday Night Lights, but everyone I knew who watched that show was a middle aged woman, so I never saw it as a teen show. When I asked these fans now, they were all baffled that anyone would call it a teen show. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 1mo

GingerAntics “It had teens in it, but it wasn‘t specifically aimed at teens. It was a family show maybe” was the general consensus. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 1mo

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GingerAntics If Glassman was trying to bring new fans to these shows, she utterly failed. At first, I thought I‘d check out the shows I hadn‘t seen before, but that quickly deteriorated. I do want to check out My So-Called Life. Hearing about the crappy way Apatow treated the Freaks and Geeks cast, I‘m not about to support that. Five minutes into the discussion of The OC the creators were quoted as saying “too Jewish” twice. Nope. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 1mo

GingerAntics Then it turned out the directors and crew talked crap about the actors behind their backs. Double hope. I was actually really excited to watch Glee. I knew several fans when it was on the air, and I just didn‘t watch it for whatever reason. 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 1mo

GingerAntics Then she talked about the writer/creator of Glee venting his own body shaming, homophobia, racism, and general bad humanity through the characters - making actors say and do horrible things to each other for his own joy? Hard pass. 1mo

GingerAntics #TheaGlassMan #FreaksGleeksAndDawsonsCreek #TeenTV #unpopularopinion 1mo

TheBookHippie 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 I‘ve watched zero of these shows 👵🏼 I did see a few Fresh Prince episodes 🤷🏻‍♀️but that‘s it. 1mo

Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I'm intrigued because I've watched 5 of the 7 (not Glee nor FNL), but not sure if care enough about them to read behind the scenes drama. 15 years ago, sure. Today? Meh. If you can watch My So-Called Life, I'd suggest that one of the bunch. One short season, a 90s time capsule, and pretty Jared Leto if you're into that. 1mo

GingerAntics @Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick yeah, it‘s less BTS and more (supposed) cultural importance. There is a bit of BTS type stuff. I don‘t think I would have gotten through the whole book if it was just BTS stuff. My favourite to hear about, honestly, was Fresh Prince. lol 1mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie lol that‘s fair… this was pretty niche watching, so if you didn‘t have someone in the right age group who actually watched these shows, you‘d really have no reason on to watch them. This was definitely a millennial anthem in a sense. Glee probably did have some gen Z and Fresh Prince had some younger gen X, mostly millennial shows. 1mo

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I find it interesting my childhood shows still run 😂 I mostly watched old movies with my grandma and I‘m so grateful. I watched Gilmore Girls with my daughter, Fraiser with Mr BookHippie- but we mostly watched VHS BLOCKBUSTER 😂 I worked more than two jobs 14-40 so not much TV for me 🙃 1mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie yeah, long work hours do make it hard to do much outside of work. Gilmore Girls was a brilliant show. I really love that show! VHS Blockbuster seriously brings back memories. lol 1mo

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I feel like Gilmore Girls would have made a better teen show than some of the nonsense that was listed in this book. Maybe more men need to get comfortable with that show, because seriously that is a show full of powerful women and girls! 1mo

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Freaks, Gleeks, and Dawson's Creek: How Seven Teen Shows Transformed Television | Thea Glassman

Perhaps Glassman should have called ANY Celtic Thunder fan, ANY Damian McGinty fan, ANYone involved in creating Celtic Thunder or literally ANYone in all of Ireland. It‘s really bad when you mispronounce the name of an internationally famous band. Just saying. This ain‘t Boston where they are so disconnected from the Irish Celtic roots they think a C sounds like an S. 🤦🏼‍♀️
#TheaGlassman #FreaksGleeksAndDawsonsCreek #CelticThunder

GingerAntics Never mind the multiple Celtic Thunder DVDs where they are literally introduced correctly as Celtic Thunder. Oh my god, I liked this book, but now I‘m questioning my feelings. 1mo

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Freaks, Gleeks, and Dawson's Creek: How Seven Teen Shows Transformed Television | Thea Glassman

This was the BIGGEST show among my friend group when it first came out. We. Were. Obsessed. Somehow, I don‘t remember a lot of it.
#DawsonsCreek #TheaGlassman #FreaksGleeksAndDawsonsCreek #90sTV

Caroline2 Me too!! I‘ve been rewatching it on Prime, nostalgia heaven! 😂 1mo

GingerAntics @Caroline2 I‘ve been meaning to look up where to watch it. Thanks for saving me the trouble! 🧡🧡🧡 1mo

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Freaks, Gleeks, and Dawson's Creek: How Seven Teen Shows Transformed Television | Thea Glassman

This show still holds up! The 20-something at my daycare back in the early 90s laughed so hard when I did the whole theme song. Everyday, he‘d say “do it! Do it!” And I‘d do the whole theme song again.
#FreshPrince #WillSmith #TheaGlassman #FreaksGleeksAndDawsonsCreek #90sTV

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale | James B. South

Forget Angel vs Spike. #TeamGiles Forever! Library Power!

monalyisha I may or may not have written my MLIS grad school application essay about Buffy. 😏 2mo

Ruthiella Absolutely! 👍 1mo

lil1inblue 🙌 🙌 🙌 I need to rewatch this show. 💓 1mo

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Girl Boy Girl: How I Became JT Leroy | Savannah Knoop

Hi, all! Sorry I‘ve been away. I took a social media break for a bit. I‘ve read books, listened to music, done some writing, gone for walks, and overall enjoyed myself. Decided to come back to the socials tonight & look forward to reconnecting with y‘all. Silly Lorelei sends her love!

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RaeLovesToRead Hope you had a lovely break! Hey there floofy Lorelei 🥰🥰 2mo

Ruthiella Welcome back! 😻😻😻 2mo

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kspenmoll Glad to see you return! 2mo

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Kerrbearlib @RaeLovesToRead @Ruthiella @kspenmoll thank you! 😊 1mo

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LiseWorks

Lassie: A Dog's Life : The First Fifty Years | Ace Collins

April 10th #DynamicDs Dog Another tv show I grew up with. @Eggs @Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

Eggs Perfect 👌🏼 2mo

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