NoPlaceLikeHolmes

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

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#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last THREE stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo The Veiled Lodger“. Discussion will be on July 26th and will be led by @dabbe. Hope your week goes well.

Original post - https://www.litsy.com/web/post/2884723

dabbe TY! 💙🩵💙 4h

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last THREE stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo The Veiled Lodger“. Discussion will be on July 26th and will be led by @dabbe. Hope your week goes well. 🩵

Link to summary and analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1If4cnAClVSkkczBI3jU0L4olG3AxJOI1/view?usp=shari...

Librarybelle Thank you! 22h

dabbe @Librarybelle YW! 😘 20h

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kelli7990

The Complete Sherlock Holmes Short Stories - Unabridged - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, the Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes, the Return of Sherlock Ho | Arthur Conan Doyle

I just finished this week‘s short story for #noplacelikeholmes.

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Lion's Mane | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes

Thoughts?

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Cuilin @mollyanna @Tineke @Larkken @StayCurious @kimrenee @alldebooks @CogsOfEncouragement @catlass007 @CrystalE02 @curiouserandcurioser @Larkken @BeeCurious @Blackink_WhitePaper @Daisey @RayHallucinogen @Born.A.Reader @Chrissyreadit @Fr3NcHtOaSt @Anishalnkspill 2d

Daisey I enjoyed this one, but it‘s also one that I solved fairly quickly. The title and the initial details seemed pretty clear. I was in no way disappointed that there wasn‘t actually a crime. 2d

Librarybelle I was not disappointed it wasn‘t a crime, but I was surprised by the culprit. I‘m not up on my sea creature knowledge, so I had no clue that a jellyfish could resemble a lion‘s mane. 😂 2d

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Cuilin @Daisey @librarybelle When I saw the title I‘ve got to admit that I thought of mushrooms and wondered if someone would be poisoned. (edited) 2d

eeclayton @Librarybelle Same 😂 2d

CatLass007 I think anyone who criticizes the story because there‘s no actual crime is missing the point that everyone thought it was a crime, including Holmes. 2d

Cuilin @CatLass007 🎯 exactly!!! That‘s the mystery. 2d

dabbe @Cuilin @Daisey @Librarybelle @eeclayton @CatLass007 Excellent observations, everyone! To me, this story proves that Holmes isn't just a crime solver; he's a true investigator, and his skills apply to scientific mysteries and not just human malice. Perhaps Doyle is daring to ask: “Must every villain be human? Can nature itself be the antagonist?“ In the world of conflicts, we have human vs. human, human vs. himself/herself/theirself, ⬇️ 2d

dabbe human vs. society, and human vs. nature. Kudos to Doyle for giving us one with nature as the so-called villain. Perhaps this “eco-horror“ story could be seen as a precursor to movies like JAWS or THE BIRDS. I found it a refreshing take and bold experiment in the canon. And I can't believe we only have three stories left! 2d

CogsOfEncouragement I agree with you all. A mysterious death requires answers and SH gets to the bottom of the matter. Entertaining short story. 2d

CatLass007 I may not participate in next Saturday‘s discussion. I am having surgery on Friday and I have no idea how I will feel on Saturday. But I will catch up and I will keep you posted. 2d

Cuilin @CatLass007 Hope all goes well. Let us know. 🤞for a speedy recovery. Jump in to a discussion whenever works for you. 1d

Cuilin @dabbe Yes, I love this take. More horror than cozy In nature do we ever fully know what‘s out there? I can see someone after reading this story, in the 1920s, living near the Sussex Coast going “well, I‘m not swimming today!”. 1d

dabbe @Cuilin IKR? 🩵🎯🩵 1d

dabbe @Cuilin P.S. I just sent you an email regarding the possible Sherlock pastiche reads! 🤩😍🤩 1d

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Lion's Mane | Arthur Conan Doyle

Librarybelle As I said for the first question, Holmes‘s telling is more methodical. I actually found this easier to read. Holmes is thorough, and we can see his thinking throughout. 2d

Cuilin @Librarybelle The two stories from Holmes POV are heavily criticised and considered dry. I agree with you. I think they‘re clear and easier to read. I love that we see him “show his work” 2d

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eeclayton I think there's less “clutter“ with Holmes. Since he knows what he knows, there is no need to fill the narrative with red herrings, descriptive details or false theories, which are often used by Watson when he has no clue about the solution of a case. 2d

CatLass007 @Librarybelle @Cuilin @eeclayton I agree with the three of you. When Holmes tells the story we get to see his thought processes and I find that much more enjoyable than going from Point A to Point C without going through Point B. It‘s actually easier for me to figure out things along with Holmes rather than having everything filtered through Watson. 2d

dabbe @Cuilin @Librarybelle @eeclayton @CatLass007 Agree 💯 with all of your points. To me, Holmes's narration reads more like clinical nonfiction, whereas Watson's reads like dramatic fiction. I enjoy both, but I prefer the dramatic flair of Watson and like trying to figure out the puzzle through his eyes because he is usually lost like the reader is. Holmes's tone is clinical, intellectual, and detached. Watson's is dramatic, admiring of Holmes's ⬇️ 2d

dabbe larger-than-life detective capabilities, and suspenseful. If Watson‘s stories are like watching Holmes perform on stage, “The Lion‘s Mane“ is like reading Holmes's private case notes—enlightening, but not as entertaining. 2d

CogsOfEncouragement I was amused how the reader was not told of SH‘s guess because it was withheld via convo with the Inspector and SH refused to tell him prematurely. SH was writing directly to us for other parts of the account, and then kept us in the dark this way. 2d

CatLass007 @CogsOfEncouragement I don‘t necessarily think that Holmes was keeping us in the dark. And I don‘t think it was a guess. I think he realized he needed a different theory. A theory is not a guess. This is in line with the clues that Holmes has and shares with us. Holmes realizes he doesn‘t have all the pieces yet and begins to do research based on something he read ages ago. 2d

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Cuilin

The Adventure of the Lion's Mane | Arthur Conan Doyle

Librarybelle I liked this. Holmes‘s telling of the story is more methodical and laid out than a story told by Watson. The end was a surprise for me. 2d

eeclayton I liked it, too. For me personally, Watson is a more enjoyable narrator, but it's interesting now and then to have a closer look at how SH himself is thinking. 2d

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CatLass007 It made me sad that Holmes and Watson saw each other infrequently at this point in their lives. But I did like the narration by Holmes and I was unsurprised about the culprit in the murder. It was nice to hear Holmes admit he had been wrong when he thought the victim had not been in the water merely because his towel was dry. 2d

Cuilin @CatLass007 A humble Holmes!! Who‘d a thought! 2d

dabbe @Cuilin @LIbrarybelle @eeclayton @CatLass007 I believe this is the one story where we get a glimpse of Holmes's life in retirement. I loved the coastal setting and agree 💯 with @CatLas007 about missing the relationship between H & W. I did found it hard to grasp that Holmes is okay with doing nothing but beekeeping. This is the man who once took drugs because he couldn't handle idleness. But people do change over time--even our beloved detective. 2d

CogsOfEncouragement I thought maybe the death was not by human hands. Then when the answer was revealed, I remembered SH began this tale by saying “soothing life of Nature” and realized that was certainly meant as foreshadowing. 2d

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LitsyEvents

The Adventure of the Lion's Mane | Arthur Conan Doyle

Repost for @dabbe

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last FOUR stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo The Lion's Mane“. Discussion will be on July 19th and will be led by @Cuilin. Hope your week goes well.

Original post - https://www.litsy.com/web/post/2883166

dabbe Thanks for posting! 💚 6d

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Lion's Mane | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last FOUR stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo The Lion's Mane“. Discussion will be on July 19th and will be led by @Cuilin. Hope your week goes well. 🩵

Link to summary and analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nR1U1fpvL5Nxwm-iBOH5jLM3tmWkbVpZ/view?usp=shari...

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kelli7990

The Complete Sherlock Holmes Short Stories - Unabridged - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, the Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes, the Return of Sherlock Ho | Arthur Conan Doyle

I finished this week‘s short story “The Creeping Man” for #noplacelikeholmes. My birthday was on Wednesday. I went to the museum on Friday to celebrate my birthday and then went out to lunch and I was tired when I got home and then I didn‘t read at all on Saturday because I was watching Facebook Reels but tonight, I decided to do some reading so I can catch up with the buddy read and make progress in another book I‘m reading.

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Creeping Man (Annotated) | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @dabbe

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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CatLass007 There doesn‘t seem to be a crime. The mystery is, “Why is the professor behaving in such an odd manner?” as I said in a previous answer, I don‘t consider this science fiction or scientific fiction. It‘s pure fantasy. (edited) 1w

Read4life Fantasy. Just not what I look forward to in a Holmes story. 1w

Cuilin If there are no laws regarding the ethics of scientific experimentation, then there can be no crime. I think it‘s just another interesting case to answer why a professor had a personality change? The solution was nuts! Monkey nuts!! lol 1w

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CogsOfEncouragement I have no need to keep SH stories in a tight category. My expectation is to be entertained with something. If Doyle veers from some unstated guardrails so be it. There was certainly a mystery to be solved that the others couldn‘t/were too afraid to get to the bottom of. SH uncovered that for them. 1w

eeclayton Legally speaking there might be no crime, but ethically, there is. However, this story isn't about pursuing the culprit (Lowenstein), but about what is wrong with the professor.
I still consider it detective fiction, with an added sci-fi element. 1w

Librarybelle I like that thought, @eeclayton …detective fiction with a sci-fi element. 1w

dabbe @CatLass007 @Read4life @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement @eeclayton Perhaps because this is Doyle's 47th story (by publication), I like that it had an unconventional structure and genre-blurring elements. I'm sure he read FRANKENSTEIN and J&H as well, and perhaps wanted to pay homage to stories as well. There is a sci-fi bend (the serum‘s effects mirror real-world early-20th-century experiments) but also a Gothic one. ⬇️ 1w

dabbe The professor‘s night-crawling, feral aggression, and daughter‘s terror at his window evoke Gothic horror tropes, and the dog‘s violent rejection of its master adds an uncanny, animalistic dread. The story‘s eerie tone and ethical questions make it memorable, offering a fresh twist on Holmes‘ usual rationalism; however, the lack of a crime or resolution frustrates readers expecting a traditional mystery. I admire Doyle for trying something new. 1w

Read4life I see your points, @dabbe . A different way to look at the writing of this one than how I saw it. Love these discussions. 1w

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