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Agnes Grey: Large Print | Anne Anne Bront
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Chapter 20: Agnes says goodbye to Weston #DarcyLizzieVibes #pooragnes #pemberlittens

IndoorDame I just want to reach into the book and shake the two of them!!! 12mo
Bookwormjillk Agnes and her I don‘t deserve happiness I just want someplace to cry alone thing is getting on my nerves 12mo
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TheBookHippie @IndoorDame Shake …smack 🙄🙄🙄WAKE-UP 🤯😝 12mo
TheBookHippie @Bookwormjillk I want yo scream PULLLYOURSELFTOGETHER … 12mo
AnnR The social conventions of this time period sometimes drive me batty. Plus, let's face it, unemotional Agnes really isn't the sort to wear her heart on her sleeve. 12mo
Ruthiella He held her hand for a few seconds too long AND he asked her if she cares if she ever meets him again. Translation to 2023 mores and conventions, he‘s asking if she wants to go for coffee sometime. 😂 HE LIKES HER! ❤️ 12mo
willaful I confess, Weston has sunk in my esteem. :-( He seems to have been so ready to think poorly of Agnes and well of Rosalie. I guess one mustn't blame a poor gentleman for having his head turned by a pretty face, but I sure hope he puts a little effort into getting Agnes by the end! Signed, disappointed romance reader. 😂 12mo
mcctrish @Ruthiella EXACLTY ❤️❤️ how will he conspire to be in her new ‘hood?! 12mo
mcctrish @Bookwormjillk I laughed out loud to your comment #justletmegohometocry 12mo
dabbe Oh, the DRAMA of the 1800s. Weston holds her hand = #hubbahubba. #getaclueagnes What am I still waiting for in this book? 1. To see how Rosalie handles her married life (I can't help but wish that it'll be a disappointment). 2. Will Weston and AG or won't they? Do we get a happy ending or not? I don't need a “Reader, I married him“ moment, but something has to happen, right? (edited) 12mo
Morr_Books @dabbe I actually have been thinking that we may never get any additional info on Rosalie now that Agnes is leaving, but maybe Weston will show up at the school, and she will get some info from him. 12mo
dabbe @Morr_Books That would be more realistic, wouldn't it? I mean, Rosalie uses and abuses Agnes for years, then swats her away like a fly and moves onward to her travels in southern Europe with her beautiful husband and Ashby Park. It would be realistic to think that would be the perfect ending. When Rosalie's done with Agnes, Agnes be done with Rosalie! 🤣😊💙 12mo
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BarkingMadRead
Agnes Grey: Large Print | Anne Anne Bront
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Chapter 19: Agnes and her mother decide to open a school #thatletterfromhergrandfather #whataboutweston #pooragnes #pemberlittens

Bookwormjillk I wish this book was about the mom instead of Agnes! What a lady! 12mo
TheAromaofBooks @Bookwormjillk - Right?! What a response! #gomrsgrey 12mo
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TheBookHippie @Bookwormjillk oh I do agree! 12mo
Ruthiella Yup, that grandpa is a real piece of work. I‘m happy at least that Agnes is away from the Murrays and with her mother. That‘s some comfort, at least. 12mo
Bookwormjillk @TheBookHippie ohhhh good find 12mo
dabbe Found this interesting article re: Anne Bronte and how AGNES GREY was written before JANE EYRE and that AGNES was more of a feminist novel than Charlotte's Jane. Interested to hear what you #pempberlittens think. The link is below:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgw5x14GOmRCN_nvjb3cwzmHG8GxRlsh/view?usp=shari...
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willaful @dabbe oh cool, thanks for sharing.

I was doing some reading about ToWH and discovered that Charlotte suppressed it for years after Anne's death. I think she had some serious jealousy issues.

@bookwormjillk she is an awesome woman. @TheBookHippie so Agnes's mom likely based on her own mother? I may be about to do a deep dive on Bronte history.... 😁
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TheBookHippie @willaful Bronte is my favorite basically because these dark books saved preteen & teenager me .. they‘re part of me. I do think it‘s her mother in this character. I read in a feminist article that Charlotte waited to be sure it was published since they were women but 😝 that was eons ago ! 12mo
TheBookHippie @willaful I think it was strong willed and minded females fighting to get it done 👀. I‘m sure the rivalry was 🤯🤯🤯. Survival of the fittest! Ha. I do like all of Bronte all the sisters. 12mo
TheBookHippie @dabbe I think sisterhood by blood and not when you‘re fighting to get anything done is complicated. What a time they lived in. To try and pit them against each other takes away their sheer talent as female writers and makes it look like that‘s what females do. I think Agnes is like nonfiction and Jane is romance. Styling differences. As were they as people. 12mo
mcctrish Grandpa is a total shit! What will the Murray‘s say when Agnes drops this bomb?! ?? I must say that book about Mama Brontë looks intriguing @TheBookHippie and I have to say when we read Wuthering Heights in high school I thought I‘d died and gone to heaven 12mo
TheBookHippie @mcctrish same. I read it in middle school! 12mo
eeclayton @dabbe Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that Agnes had been written first. I see where the comparison of the two books come from, but I think it's unfair to compare them because they focus on such different things. 12mo
willaful @mcctrish @TheBookHippie I loved the 1930s movie but the book was too much for me as a teen. I should really read it again now. I adored all of Janes books though (except I think I might not have read Shirley. Have to keep that in mind for the future too.) 12mo
willaful @mcctrish @TheBookHippie I loved the 1930s movie but the book was too much for me as a teen. I should really read it again now. I adored all of Janes books though (except I think I might not have read Shirley. Have to keep that in mind for the future too.) 12mo
mcctrish @willaful I reread WH in my 30‘s and I totally did not have the same reaction as I did at 15 🤣 teenage angst might be needed to appreciate Heathcliffe 12mo
willaful @mcctrish I was more the “Non-threatening Boys“ magazine type. 😂 https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Non-Threatening_Boys_Magazine 12mo
dabbe @TheBookHippie TOTALLY agree! We get a much more serious look at what it was like to truly be a governess in Agnes more than we do with Jane and her ONE pupil. It's like realism vs romanticism with the two sisters giving both views. 🤗 12mo
dabbe @eeclayton It seems the author of that article is definitely #teamagnes and wanted to make the case that Anne got there first with her governess book. Anne's works have always been slighted in favor of WH and JE, so perhaps the author wanted to give a big shoutout for Anne. 😊 12mo
Clare-Dragonfly Grandpa might take the coveted #worstcharacteraward but competition is fierce! 12mo
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BarkingMadRead
Agnes Grey: Large Print | Anne Anne Bront
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TheBookHippie Bluebells are gorgeous!!! 12mo
BarkingMadRead @TheBookHippie that color! So stunning! 12mo
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TheBookHippie Rosalie what a we love to hate you character 😵‍💫 12mo
TheBookHippie @BarkingMadRead I miss color… still snowing and sticks here 😝 12mo
BarkingMadRead @TheBookHippie she really is! And ugh about the snow, you probably don‘t want to hear that we got none this year in SC 🤣 12mo
AllDebooks I've got a feeling we've not heard the last from Rosalie 😕 12mo
Ruthiella Bye Rosalie! Don‘t let the door hit ya on the way out! 😆 I am hoping Matilda is going to be less of a manipulative meanie! 12mo
Bookwormjillk And another murdered animal. I would never make it in Agnes Grey times between the lack of jobs for women and the random animal slaughter. 12mo
mcctrish @Ruthiella goodbye to bad rubbish in Rosalie‘s case and I think Matilda is only mean to creatures ( but not as bad as the first bunch of heathens) 12mo
mcctrish @AllDebooks it‘s rather ominous that Mr Weston thinks it‘s a bad match too 12mo
mcctrish Could Mrs Murray lack any more empathy?! 12mo
willaful @AllDebooks -- yup. She's going to do something horrible still. Or at least be intensely miserable. But I vote horrible. 🙄

@mcctrish He's definitely unnervingly blind to her faults. She's very good at hiding them. But I think he'll be enlightened. Hopefully not in the worst possible way.
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Clare-Dragonfly If it weren‘t for the animal sadism I think Matilda would be my favorite character. I feel bad for her natural interests being squashed! 12mo
willaful @Clare-Dragonfly I think Matilda has potential? She's obviously not the type of person the author likes, but in real life, I think she could grow out of her bloodthirstiness. She strikes me as a late bloomer. (edited) 12mo
Morr_Books I love the bluebonnets scene. I just saw bluebonnets and a local park too. I'm happy to take a break from Rosalie even if is short lived. Also, what is the deal with characters in this book being cruel to animals? 12mo
dabbe @Morr_Books This disturbed me, too! In trying to find some kind of a guide for this book, I stumbled upon a passage that stated that a lot of this story is autobiographical--including the killing-of-the-birds scene. Does this mean that Anne = Agnes? I think it's too complicated for an answer yet. Thoughts? 🤔 12mo
BarkingMadRead @dabbe it‘s definitely possible, I‘m sure that people then didn‘t have the same feelings about animals that we do now. They didn‘t often keep pets, animals usually served a purpose and that‘s it 😢 12mo
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BarkingMadRead
Agnes Grey: Large Print | Anne Anne Bront
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TheAromaofBooks In the last chapter Agnes mentioned the biblical parable of the rich man who had many sheep, but when an unexpected visitor arrives, he takes his poor neighbor's only lamb to serve it for supper. I kept thinking about that throughout this chapter as Rosalie used her power not just to try and win over Mr. W, but to actively sabotage Agnes's character/any chance of future happiness along the way. 12mo
Bookwormjillk Hoping for a happy ending 🤞 12mo
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IndoorDame I like that her “love poem” is more of a slam poem about what a bitch Rosalie is to her! 😂 12mo
AnnR I'm cheering for a happy ending, too. Go, team Agnes! 12mo
BarkingMadRead @IndoorDame right?!? I wish she was more outgoing about it, she needs to tell Rosalie no, instead of staying home all the time like a prisoner! @Bookwormjillk still hoping for a happy ending myself!! 12mo
TheBookHippie @IndoorDame 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼slam poem! 12mo
TheBookHippie 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻for happiness ♥️ 12mo
TheBookHippie @TheAromaofBooks makes me wonder what her real life was like!!!! 12mo
Ruthiella Let‘s see what happens. Rosalie is behaving terribly like the spoiled child she is. I don‘t think she can even conceive that Agnes might have feelings that will be hurt. 😖 But I don‘t think Weston is like Mr. Hatfield and so easily fooled. 12mo
willaful I'm worried we're going to get a Mansfield Park situation.... not that I care what happens to Rosalie. 12mo
mcctrish I think the fact Mr W is asking after Agnes has sent Rosalie into full psycho mode! #slampoem is perfect @IndoorDame I‘d not think Mr W‘a head will be turned in the least but it sounds like time is running out 😬 #getthebitchhitched so Agnes can see Mr W again 12mo
Clare-Dragonfly Ugh, Rosalie is so sociopathic! She really doesn‘t seem to care that other people have feelings! Not impressed with Agnes in this chapter either. “Oh, only ~*~I~*~ can understand this special man” 🙄 12mo
willaful @Clare-Dragonfly oh, interesting point. 12mo
dabbe Is it just me? I can't help but see parallels between Rosalie and Estella from GREAT EX (crazy Havisham aside). Two self-serving narcissistic women using men as their playthings. More than Agnes finding happiness with Weston, I want Rosalie to PAY. 12mo
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BarkingMadRead
Agnes Grey: Large Print | Anne Anne Bront
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Chapter 3: the kids are a hot mess and behave like heathens, which is obviously Agnes‘ fault! #whosschoolingwho #agnesissonotincharge #thesekidsneedaspanking #isaidwhatisaid #christmasbreak #pooragnes #pemberlittens

TheBookHippie Little heathens ............lololololol 13mo
IndoorDame The kids are so evil! 😈 13mo
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Ruthiella Poor Agnes. They really are awful children. Though Agnes also often thinks a good whipping might set them straight, which isn‘t in keeping with how many modern parents raise their children. 13mo
AnnR It seems the son gets his temper and bullying ways by example from the father. I don't think “Patience, Firmness, and Perseverance“ is going to be enough to reign in these little terrors otherwise. What on earth do the parents expect Agnes (or any governess) to do, in order to get the spoiled brats to take their studies seriously. 13mo
Bookwormjillk Poor Agnes 13mo
eeclayton Here we are in 2023, and there are still many parents who let their kids do whatever they want, and then expect teachers in schools to teach them all the stuff they (the parents) have failed to. The difference is that teachers today are trained to deal with kids while Agnes has no idea what she's doing. 13mo
Clare-Dragonfly At first I was going to say this reminds me of The Turn of the Screw, but I take it back. These kids are so much worse! 13mo
mcctrish As a teacher I‘d say this parenting style is making a strong comeback in some areas and in some cases no training helps #assholesbegatassholes #therehastobeconsequences 13mo
BarkingMadRead @eeclayton yesssssssss 13mo
Morr_Books @Ann_Reads Agree! I highlighted those words and had the same thought. Also, this chapter brought back buried memories of my time as a nanny. 😨 13mo
SamAnne I‘m not regretting my decision to skip kids…😂😂😂 13mo
julieclair Poor Agnes! She is trying so hard. These kids are so awful. And especially when kids truly don‘t care what kind of punishment they get, how in the world do you motivate them to comply? 13mo
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