#NoPlaceLikeHolmes
I got so excited when I knew Mycroft would be in this story. Have interpretations informed our ideas of the Sherlock universe rather than the source material?
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Librarybelle I think interpretations have shaped what we think of Holmes and these characters versus the stories themselves. For me, prior to this buddy read, I had not read most of the stories, yet I had an idea from adaptations how the characters would be and recognize the “big” ones, Irene Adler, Moriarty, and Mycroft. And yes, the brothers playing off of each other was hysterical! 4mo
CatLass007 I saw both of the movies with Robert Downey Jr. I didn‘t like them but I did enjoy Stephen Fry, who narrates the audiobook to which I‘m listening, as Mycroft. 4mo
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IndoorDame It‘s definitely hard to get away from interpretations being part of our perception of these characters and this universe when I just think about Sherlock abstractly… But Doyle is a strong writer (the whole reason there are a thousand adaptations) so once I‘m back on the page with him, I‘m pretty focused on the actual scene in front of me the way it‘s written. 4mo
CogsOfEncouragement Watson thinks so highly of SH‘s skillset, to find his brother is even better at it was entertaining. If Mycroft was willing to put in more attention, just think what they could accomplish! I think this also points to SH actually caring about others. He does take the time and energy to put a case together with proper evidence for justice to be served. W just takes for granted that would be done, Mycroft shows that is not so. 4mo
Cuilin @IndoorDame oh you put it so perfectly. as much as I love the adaptations, I‘m fully engaged with what I see on the page and actually create my own Sherlock in my head. 4mo
Cuilin @CatLass007 as much as I love, Mark Gattis playing Mycroft I agree that Stephen Fry‘s Mycroft is closer to canon!! I will read the story and also listen to Stephen Fry‘s version every week. 4mo
CatLass007 I don‘t know who Mark Gattis is. The only other Sherlock adaptations I‘ve seen in recent years have been House and Elementary. House is more of a nudge-nudge, wink-wink homage. Elementary is supposed to be a modern retelling, but it is decidedly non-canon. 4mo
Cuilin @CatLass007 Along with Stephen Moffat, Mark Gatis wrote BBC‘s Sherlock. He also played the role of Mycroft. 4mo
CatLass007 Is that the one with Benjamin Cumberbatch? I think I watched part of an episode with a friend once. I like him but his casting as Khan in the reboot of Star Trek leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. It‘s just an awful movie. 4mo
Read4life I agree that once I‘m reading (or listening) I‘m absorbed in the story. Mark Gattis was brilliant as Mycroft & I loved the chemistry he & Cumberbatch had on screen. I was just reading Everyone This Christmas Has a Secret & Stevenson pointed out how adaptations gave Mycroft & Moriarty more attention than Doyle did. Did Doyle just write them so well that we think they were bigger characters or have adaptations given them more notoriety? 4mo
Cuilin @Read4life Out of 56 short stories and 4 novels (ish) producers of the movies and TV shows picked the best stories and had some sort of amalgamation of characters to make their adaptation interesting and I think that‘s why these characters are featured more on the screen then Doyle had on paper, perhaps. 4mo
Aimeesue Sherlock has been a part of my life since I first read the stories at 11 or 12, so I‘ve read more adaptations, continuations, re-visionings and pastiches than is probably healthy. And then watched all the series. Starting with the written Sherlock, it‘s easy to see how later writers adapted and expanded Holmes‘ characters. It would definitely be harder going the other way, I think. 4mo
CrystalE02 I am guessing because they are the more popular characters. I did enjoy the dialogue between the two brothers. 4mo
dabbe I think that we (like Watson) have been told so frightfully little about Holmes's past, by this point yet we have read and been involved in enough stories that we are craving to know more about Holmes and how he came to be such a mastermind. We want to know every tidbit of the upbringing that produced such a wunderkind as Sherlock, and then to discover that Mycroft is #theonlymanwhoissmarterthansherlock makes us crave even more of him. 4mo
Cuilin @dabbe Maybe you can shed some light on this. I remember reading that Doyle met Oscar Wilde and created Mycroft based on him. Sounds more like an urban myth, but wouldn‘t that be lovely. 😊 4mo
dabbe @Cuilin Ooh, a research question! I'll see if I can find out anything. 🤩🤩🤩 4mo
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