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My May Challenges & Buddy Reads.
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Cuilin, TheBookHippie, Librarybelle, StayCurious, CBee, dabbe, TheAromaofBooks, PuddleJumper, julieclair

Librarybelle Lovely organized graphic! 5m

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Karisa

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Wow! Learned this from #SundayBuddyRead video link from @TheBookHippie today. I didn‘t realize just how cool Dorothy Parker was before! https://youtu.be/ud3-3-SPW-A?si=xHDMJ_2FUWfJiF8F

Jas16 I had no idea. Love her even more now. 2d

Karisa @Jas16 I know right?! 🥰 2d

Sargar114 So cool! 2d

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I was link happy
Here‘s another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3-3-SPW-A

I think we‘re going to have a fun ride! 👀

Happy Sunday 🤍

📖 https://ia802902.us.archive.org/16/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.184951/2015.184951.Th...

Librarybelle This is a fun story! 2d

mcctrish Love the links and I‘m going to learn so much 2d

Karisa So much to dig into here! What a fun read. 😊 Did not picture the Algonquin that way! Fancy! (edited) 2d

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IndoorDame I didn‘t know The Algonquin had a hotel 🐈!!!! 2d

TheBookHippie @IndoorDame yes you can visit him. 2d

AmyG Good choice! I am enjoying this one. 2d

vlwelser I love it so far. Glad your birthday month book is turning out this good. 2d

TheBookHippie @vlwelser 😅😅😅😅WHEW… 2d

kspenmoll I am loving this book! 2d

DebinHawaii Looks like a fun video—I‘ll go back & watch more of it later. Enjoying this one so far & looking forward to where it goes. 🤗 2d

slategreyskies This is a really enjoyable book so far! I flew through today‘s section, and I‘m looking forward to next week‘s discussion! 🤍 2d

julieclair Loving this books and loving the links! 👍😘 18h

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Dotties marriage
Dottie husband not same since the war
Yikes
Her eye 😵‍💫
Dottie & Winfred head out together
Dotties husband leaves she finds a playmate 🤭
Her friends are worried about her rose colored glasses and new playmate…

Winifred
Poor thing PTSD
RUN RUN RUN GIRL

Our story is set!!!! WHEW!

Librarybelle So much happening! I feel sad for Dottie regarding her marriage. 2d

mcctrish I do feel bad for Dottie in terms of her marriage although they barely knew each other and hadn‘t been married long before Eddie went to war. She seems pretty caustic to me, her witticisms seem like barbs most of the time and her humour the kind where you say something mean and call it a joke ie someone is always the butt of it. Eddie‘s accidental/on purpose punch was brutal as was his non-acknowledgement of it. 2d

mcctrish Dottie‘s latching on to Charlie seems desperate. She needs a man? She does nothing traditional around the house/home? She feels like a train wreck 2d

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Karisa @mcctrish Yes! The new boyfriend thing was just so fast. She‘s using him to bolster her own self confidence after Eddie maybe? I don‘t trust Charlie yet though 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish I think she liked sex, 🤭😅 and I‘ve always thought if it were a man behaving like this and writing like she did no one would say a word. @Karisa (edited) 2d

mcctrish @TheBookHippie it‘s more than liking sex (Neysa likes sex ) and if Dottie needs more than sex that‘s cool too. But she needs to figure her shit out first 2d

mcctrish @Karisa me either. He just wants to have sex but he‘s wrapping it up in a prettier package and Dottie is dropping everything to run home 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish I agree she‘s a hot mess express. 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish youth oy.. lessons to be learned. 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish Neysa is so cool. 2d

mcctrish Maybe that‘s my problem, maybe I‘m comparing Dottie to all the other women 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish 🙃 2d

IndoorDame Love that Dottie does what she wants and is unapologetic! But right now she‘s lying to herself a bit about Eddie and about the new man. Not sure if that‘s the author‘s vision, or the time in her life, but I hope either way she gets stronger and her inner life actually matches her caustic barbs. 2d

mcctrish @IndoorDame I do love that too - Dottie being Dottie - but she needs to sit with herself but the links show why being alone is not something she wants to do ☹️ 2d

AmyG I think it wasn‘t uncommon during that time period….men going off to war and coming back changed. In that I feel bad for Dottie. Butshe seems to make poor choices in her personal life. Makes her human. 2d

vlwelser That was a lot of action for the beginning of any book. I hope it keeps this pace. 2d

kspenmoll She is a hot mess. I was naively shocked that she was so dependent on her husband- smart women who knew nothing about bills, etc. sad. 2d

Sargar114 I think her friends were right to be concerned about Dottie and the fling with Charlie. She‘s still recovering from her marriage and the abuse, she wasn‘t even able to admit that Eddie hit her to her friends which is how you know that she even knew it was wrong. And she was in such denial about the abuse that she was devastated when he left. I also think she sees herself as a “kept” woman so always has to have someone to take care of her. 2d

TheBookHippie @Sargar114 I think her being in a childhood that was fraught with people leaving probably didn‘t help. No one ever took care of her as a child she‘s still searching for it 🤷🏻‍♀️ It‘s sad no matter what her underlying reason. 2d

DebinHawaii Definitely a hot mess. I am good with her sowing some oats with Eddie being such a jerk & the abuse but it does seem like she is falling for Charlie too quick. She needs to get herself settled before jumping into something new. 2d

slategreyskies I think it‘s awful that Eddie came back from the war with what sounds like a fierce case of PTSD. I know someone that happened to, actually more than one someone, and they each handled it in their own way, but for both of them, heavy alcohol use was their drug of choice. However, it seemed to me to go beyond that in Eddie‘s case. I don‘t think they were a good fit, and I‘m glad he left. I do think Charlie is not a good choice, but ⬇️ 2d

slategreyskies (Cont.) when we‘re hurting or life shakes us up, I know a lot of people reach for the quick feel good choice rather than the smart one. 2d

julieclair @slategreyskies Excellent point about her reaching for the quick feel good choice. I sure do hope Charlie doesn‘t end up damaging her even more. 18h

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Jane & Dottie visit the building
Revenge of Oedipus
Jane & Harold get the building start planning
Then Alec arrives

THEN

The party and ALEC..
WHAT?!?!
Jane is fierce

https://dorothyparker.com/dorothy-parker-haunts/47th-st

Librarybelle I think I exclaimed aloud over what Alec did at the party! The nerve! Ugh! 2d

mcctrish I HATE AW! He‘s a manipulative piece of shit and I hope bad things happen to him 2d

Karisa Alec is horrible! It‘s interesting that these places still are around 100 years later. Feels like a literary tour can be set up just focused on this group. The author has really done their homework! 2d

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TheBookHippie @Karisa There are a few!! 2d

IndoorDame Jane is fierce! She‘s so unfazed by getting arrested, she actually knows who to call to have a lawyer meet her at the precinct. This had better be enough to quash the idea of Alec living with them! 2d

AmyG My first thought was….how much is this house worth today? 🤣 Alec is a loathsome character. I hope we get to read about him getting what‘s due to him. 2d

vlwelser I love Jane. Alec seems like a giant douche canoe. 2d

kspenmoll Alex is despicable!!! Jane is such a wonderful character! 2d

Sargar114 @AmyG that‘s what I keep thinking about too!!! 2d

DebinHawaii The mushrooms growing from the ceiling in the house. Yikes! And yes, Alec is awful! 🤬 2d

slategreyskies Add me to the Alec haters group. Ugh. I‘m actually a bit worried about what will happen to Jane in court, though. I‘m hoping she won‘t get in a lot of trouble. 🤞 2d

julieclair I was shocked and disappointed at Alec‘s behavior. Surely he won‘t be permitted to live with them now. 19h

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Winifred (not my bulldog 👀😱🤭)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winifred_Lenihan

https://www.throughthehourglass.com/2018/07/peter-lenihans-daughter.html

I had no knowledge of her hope to find more.
I like her chutzpah in the story so far. Just wow.

Librarybelle I was not familiar with her either. It sounds like she had to grow up quickly. Very strong. 2d

mcctrish I like Winnifred, she‘s faced some things but she‘s kind, considerate and setting boundaries. Something bad happened I think, maybe we will find out in section 2 2d

Karisa Winifred is so strong too. All four seem both of their time and ahead of it. Maybe because they are in New York. Winifred is compelling and so independent. 2d

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IndoorDame She has such an inner strength that shines through even without much having been revealed about her yet. All the women are compelling, but Winifred seems the most like the New Yorkers I grew up with. 2d

AmyG I like all the women. They are completely different, yet have a bond. They are strong and smart as hell. I had never heard of Winifred and like her a great deal. I look forward to reading and learning more about them. 2d

vlwelser She takes things in stride. I appreciate that. She somehow manages to come out on top despite being surrounded by predators. 2d

kspenmoll The only woman in this book I knew of was Dorothy Parker. I love meeting these new to me smart, strong, courageous women. 2d

Sargar114 I like that there is more to Winifred that meets the eye. It seems like a lot of people underestimate her and try to take advantage of her. I love her willingness to fight and stand up for herself and her friends. 2d

DebinHawaii I like Winifred so far. She seems smart & strong. It will be interesting to learn more of her backstory & what has shaped her. There‘s something dark in her background. 2d

slategreyskies I‘m not looking forward to hearing about Winifred‘s past. From her reactions, it seems to me like it‘s somehow related to sexual assault or something along those lines. 2d

julieclair I like that she‘s a realist, and tough when she needs to be, but not all the time. 20h

mollyrotondo Winifred is probably my second favorite. I also sense that she has a dark past, but whatever happened she seems to have a level head and has not allowed her past to hold her back. She has also been proving to be a good friend to Peggy. These women stick by each other's sides which i love! 2h

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Dottie

https://poets.org/poet/dorothy-parker

https://dorothyparker.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWcFCFZFB50

https://dorothyparker.com/book-shop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Parker

How do you like our flawed main character ?

Librarybelle Our section ended with her coming to terms with so much turmoil. I think we‘ll see some growth as the book progresses. 2d

mcctrish No. 2d

Karisa I had no idea her early life was both so difficult and so spoiled. The video link you shared paints her as so difficult 😂 She really was alone from a young age. That had to have shaped her. 2d

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TheBookHippie @Karisa Yes and she had to make her own way . I fell in love with her because she was difficult. She was very forward thinking for her era. She wasn't bigoted, she wasn't racist, she believed in women's rights. She took lovers if she wanted to. She lived flawed on her terms. No matter what anyone said or thought. 🙃 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish 🤭 2d

IndoorDame The picture we get of her in this early section isn‘t especially likeable, but there‘s such a tendency to idealize famous women instead of portraying them as fully human, that I‘m keeping an open mind about all 4 of them. 2d

TheBookHippie @IndoorDame ⬆️ my reply to Karisa 2d

mcctrish I realize that in this era not being a racist, a bigot and championing women‘s rights is really good but if that‘s the bar for me liking the character 😳 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish 14 year old me held her close and I‘ve never given her up 🙃 2d

mcctrish I get that @TheBookHippie I wonder if I‘d see her differently if I‘d read her/about her then - I knew about her and I thought it was awesome that there were women as part of the gang but not enough to look closely 🤷🏻‍♀️off being my own train wreck I guess 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish I‘ve always found it interesting that young women who‘ve had traumatic childhoods and are activists that are flawed themselves are drawn to her and her outspoken ways and wit. A psych major could right a fun paper on us flawed people and why we like her. 2d

TheBookHippie @mcctrish I‘m quite happy to not be that age anymore 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫🤭 2d

mcctrish Absolutely 💯 2d

AmyG I tended to idealize her….we forget sometimes that the famous are just people like the rest of us. 2d

vlwelser Funny but that's the poem I know her for. Very witty. 2d

kspenmoll You said it perfectly re: flawed characters , traumatic childhoods, & activism. Trying to make the world right. 💜 2d

TheBookHippie @kspenmoll ♥️ 2d

TheBookHippie @AmyG 🙃 2d

Sargar114 She‘s been extremely frustrating even though there‘s reason for that. She‘s flawed and it‘s book throwingly frustrating to see how she is leaning into her flaws 2d

DebinHawaii She is a difficult person to get to know. It seems like she is more “on stage” than Winnifred with always having to come up with a perfect line or comeback. I do realize there are a lot of reasons for that but TBH, I‘m not liking her much yet. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 2d

slategreyskies I like her, and I‘m interested in learning more about her. So many links and info! I have a lot of catching up to do! 2d

slategreyskies @DebinHawaii I agree with you about her being “on stage.” I kinda feel like she feels like that‘s the role people expect of her, so she just keeps giving them what they expect. It must be hard on her to have to keep up a wall all of the time, though, because isn‘t that kinda what all the humor is? Just a wall or a mask to hide behind? 2d

BarkingMadRead I like Dottie. I hate Eddie. I hope Charlie doesn‘t turn out to be an ass 2d

julieclair I keep thinking how radical that poem must have been for the times! I admire her wit, but I feel a bit sorry for her. 1d

mollyrotondo Dottie's unhappy life makes her character understandable. She's always “on“ because she's hiding behind her wit. I just want her to not cling to a man. Eddie left and she quickly fell into Charlie's arms. I want her to stand on her own because she can! Hopefully we see growth throughout the rest of the book. 2h

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JANE https://csws-archive.uoregon.edu/about/jane-grant/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Grant

https://expo.uoregon.edu/spotlight/jane-grant/feature/the-legacy-she-left-behind

https://spartacus-educational.com/USAjane_grant.htm

Thoughts on Jane?
I like her!!!

Librarybelle Great links again! I like her too. Tough, but she has to be as she makes her mark in a male dominated profession. 2d

mcctrish I like her ( I knew it would be The New Yorker ❤️) she is fierce, she‘s got the big picture of what she wants and breaks it down ( her gin recipe sounds delicious) 2d

Karisa Jane is so talented and tireless. I can‘t believe she went along with renovating that house—what an undertaking! Alec is quickly becoming the villain in this story pushing his way in to stay there and setting her up for arrest. What a jerk he is! But she just rolls with it all and keeps her sense of humor. 2d

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IndoorDame I like her too! In some ways it seems like this is shaping up to be Jane‘s story more than Dottie‘s. She‘s the maternal figure we‘re supposed to like. She‘s the most on top of both marriage and career. But she‘s not a pushover, she just got herself arrested. And we see the outline of her future, as she steers her husband towards establishing The New Yorker which is an amazing legacy. 2d

AmyG What a life! I like her, too. She remains a strong woman in a man‘s world. 2d

kspenmoll Jane is an amazing woman, especially given the times. I so enjoy reading about her & birth of New Yorker. @Karisa Alex is a jerk! I love how the end of ch 13 ended, showing us jis true colors. “Thank you for selling me down the river,”… To her surprise , there was no word of apology or explanation, just a long, hard stare.” (edited) 2d

vlwelser I like Jane the most so far. I love that she steers the husband down a path of her design. She is pretty fierce. I love how she treats being taken in by the police. 2d

Karisa @vlwelser @kspenmoll I could never be so calm about it all! Jane is a force. Alec better watch out! 😂 2d

TheBookHippie @vlwelser me too. She‘s fierce. 2d

Sargar114 @vlwelser @TheBookHippie mine too! I also enjoy her relationship with Harold. She obviously cares about him and they respect each other which seems unconventional for the time. 2d

Sargar114 Also, how much do you think that brownstone is worth now!!!! 2d

DebinHawaii I like Jane too & she seems to have a good relationship with Harold although I wish she hadn‘t caved about that jerk Alec moving in & pushed back more. 😠 2d

slategreyskies I like Jane as well. She seems levelheaded, and her marriage seems to have a good balance, which is not always common. 2d

BarkingMadRead I love Jane, I hate Alex. I don‘t think Harold is that bad looking, I don‘t get why everyone thinks he‘s ugly 🤷🏻‍♀️ 2d

julieclair Jane was absolutely a woman ahead of her time. So impressive! This is why I love historical fiction. I had never even heard of her. (edited) 1d

mollyrotondo Jane is my favorite so far! She has goals and is doing everything she can to reach those goals. She doesn't let her marriage stifle her. I hate Alex but I thought it was so interesting that Jane's arrest showed how little anyone took the police seriously when it came to alcohol laws and the consequences. Jane just found it to be an inconvenience. I also don't understand why Harold Ross wasn't considered attractive. His pic looks so modern. 3h

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Neysa & things said at the first bridge game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neysa_McMein

https://www.illustrationhistory.org/artists/neysa-mcmein

ISBEN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Ibsen
Favorite of mine
AAMILNE - yes POOH- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dover_Road_(play)
BIJOU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijou_Theatre_(Manhattan,_1917)

🙃🤭 lots of backstory 😅

Librarybelle Thanks for the links! The 1920s has so much going on 2d

mcctrish I enjoy Neysa‘s character and she did so many things 🤯 I had no idea there was a McClure‘s magazine 2d

Karisa I‘d love to see more of Neysa in the book. What a cool and talented person! Did not know that Milne was a playwright! (edited) 2d

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IndoorDame I‘m hoping we get to know Neysa better too! I‘m completely under her spell right now, but I‘d love to get a peek at the real woman. 2d

AmyG Neysa is a fascinating character. I, too, would like to know more. 2d

kspenmoll Neysa seems so self possessed- I too find her intriguing. Illustrated Betty Crocker, I love that!!! 2d

vlwelser Neysa is an interesting character. I never heard of her before. 2d

Sargar114 I agree with everyone. Neysa is quite interesting and would love to have her perspective. 2d

DebinHawaii Yes, right now I find Neysa one of (if not the most) the most interesting characters. 2d

slategreyskies Wow, Neysa‘s got style! Very cool. 😎 I‘m loving the pics. 2d

TheBookHippie @DebinHawaii her art is amazing!!!! She is as well. @slategreyskies 2d

BarkingMadRead I think they all want her because they can‘t have her! 2d

TheBookHippie @BarkingMadRead Isn‘t that always the way. 2d

julieclair Thanks for all these links. So fascinating! 1d

mollyrotondo Thank you for all the information! She had so much work throughout her career! I wish the book would highlight that more. I love her as a character but she is mostly portrayed as someone who throws a party every night and has men all over her. I wish we hear more about her work life. It's my one problem with the book so far. 3h

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So the four women decide to have a reoccurring Bridge game.

♠️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_bridge

And our story of our four women is set

Deviled eggs https://www.chefjessicabright.com/classic-deviled-eggs.html

Corn bread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_5Utu6xgs

Celery with Roquefort https://www.wkndreditions.com/journal/blue-cheese-stuffed-celery

Librarybelle How different they are too! It would probably be a fascinating bridge group to observe. 2d

mcctrish My mom played bridge but I have no idea how it works ( I did play euchre for years and it seems a bit like that ) I think it‘s weird when grown ups don‘t know how to cook, I get some people enjoy it more than others but everyone should be able to make a few basic recipes 2d

IndoorDame Never understood why bridge is supposed to be a more acceptable ladylike game than poker! Though I don‘t totally understand bridge, so maybe if I did?… I do like that the author has imagined Dottie is terrible at it 😂 2d

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Karisa I like how they rotate from home to home. The game is bringing unlikely friends together. I wonder if it‘s true to history or just fiction. Love deviled eggs! So yummy 2d

TheBookHippie @IndoorDame this book helped me appreciate Bridge

The Bridge Ladies: A Memoir

TheBookHippie @Karisa the game and players are true history 1921 bridge group of New Yorker founder Jean Grant, Broadway superstar Winifred Lenihan, brilliant aspiring novelist Margaret Leech and, obviously and of course, iconic satirist Dorothy Parker. 🙃 2d

IndoorDame @TheBookHippie stacked! 2d

kspenmoll I adore deviled eggs!!! 🥚 2d

AmyG They are basically a book club…..but bridge! My parents played this every Sunday. I have no clue. 2d

TheBookHippie @AmyG my grandma and her ladies played weekly. 2d

vlwelser I love this group of fierce women hanging out without the guys. 2d

AmyG @TheBookHippie If they were in NJ…mah jong! 🤣 2d

TheBookHippie @AmyG Now that I can play!!! 2d

Sargar114 It‘s a delightful excuse for girlfriends to meet up, I enjoy it. I also like how they rotate and you get different perspectives of their lives. 2d

DebinHawaii I have never played bridge. It always looks so complicated. But bring on the deviled eggs & celery stuffed with Roquefort! 😋 2d

slategreyskies I love that they decide to start a bridge group and learn to play together. I admit that it makes me a tiny bit jealous. What I wouldn‘t give for a group of women I met with regularly and just got to hang out and be myself with. Although, I do kinda wonder sometimes how much Dottie feels like she can be herself and how much is her keeping a mask up so she doesn‘t have to be vulnerable. I mean, I get that, if that‘s what‘s happening. I mask too. 2d

slategreyskies Add me to the lovers of deviled eggs group! Back when I used to go to potlucks, I was always the one who brought the deviled eggs, and they always all got eaten. 2d

TheBookHippie @slategreyskies I‘ve not had deviled eggs in so long!!! Now I need them. So yummy. 2d

slategreyskies @TheBookHippie agreed! I keep making hard boiled eggs and eating them before I can make them into deviled eggs. 🤣 2d

BarkingMadRead I love deviled eggs! 2d

julieclair I still make deviled eggs - my family loves them and they always disappear at potlucks. My recipe is very similar to the one you posted, but I omit the hot sauce and add sweet pickle relish. 1d

TheBookHippie @julieclair my grandma used relish too! Just yum! (edited) 1d

mollyrotondo I love that the women form their own group separate from the men. And they are all so different from one another but still form this close bond. I love that! I also find it so funny how Dottie stinks at the game lol the bridge group is also the perfect setting to use in a book for important discussions lol 3h

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