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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Reviewing H63: There is a lot of plot. And, as much as Shakespeare simplifies and doctors the true history, he doesn't fully separate this play from the morass of plot. It means a whole lot happens, and, it also means the truly dramatic scenes are mostly brief, and separated, popping up here and there within all that plot. But also he does some wonderful things, especially with curious Richard. Overall pretty fun stuff. #shakespearereadalong 👇👇

Graywacke This completes about 600 pages of Signet on Shakespeare‘s Henry VI - the king unsuited to be king, tragically. And it‘s number 7 of the 8 play Plantagenet history sequence from Richard II to Henry IV-VI to Richard III. And we‘ve started R3, the last one (I missed R2, need to make that one up.) (edited) 3y

Graywacke (Was supposed to be a review, not a quote. Oops. It was a pick. 👍) 3y

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GingerAntics

Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

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Part 3 is best summed up as one heck of a wild ride. This one is far more action packed than the other two parts. It seems that pretty much every male character wants the crown, and a game of musical thrown ensues. Henry VI is dead by the end (thankfully), with Edward on the thrown. Everyone celebrates because they all believe the war is over and the House of York is finally victorious. But will the peace last?
#Shakespeare #shakespearereadalong

GingerAntics Finally remembered to post this. Whoops. 3y

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batsy

Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

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Not sure how to sum up a play I found riveting in spite of, or maybe because of, the multiple stabbings and brain-twisting Machiavellian maneuvers.

So maybe I'll just say that this is kind of like American Psycho, except 16th-century English. (That's definitely a recommendation, btw 😆)

#ShakespeareReadAlong @Graywacke

Cathythoughts 😂great review 3y

saresmoore Bahaha! Excellent review. 3y

batsy @Cathythoughts @saresmoore Thank you, ladies 😆❤️ 3y

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King Henry VI Part 3: Third Series | William Shakespeare, Eric Rasmussen, John D. Cox

So just imagine being Gloucester, the brother who remained faithful to Edward, hearing Edward say he loves Clarence, the brother who turned traitor and joined the other side, ten times better than if he had never betrayed him. How would this make you feel, LOL? #shakespearereadalong

batsy Stabby 😂 3y

Graywacke 😳... (but, does Richard have feelings?) 3y

LitStephanie @batsy hahaha! He is often a bit stabby. 3y

LitStephanie @Graywacke sure--anger, resentment, jealousy, ambition . . . 🤣 3y

Graywacke @LitStephanie 😳 ( ... 🙂) 3y

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TheBookHippie

Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Reminding my #shakespearereadalong peeps our discussion is up over on @Graywacke page 🤍

Go put your thoughts down!!!

I noticed the last two weeks even though I got tagged it didn‘t notify me 😱so if this is you as well come join in!

Lcsmcat There have been some quirks with Litsy lately, haven‘t there? 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat yes. Maddening. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie thanks for this. I had no idea. 3y

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TheBookHippie @Graywacke 😩 it‘s so frustrating!! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie did you get my re-tag? 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke Yes!!!! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie phew! 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Henry VI part 3 - Act V #shakespearereadalong

Ok, so... Clarence switches sides, leading to Warwick‘s defeat/death. E4 then attacks Margaret‘s French army and defeats them, taking her prisoner and killing her son. Dicky then sneaks off to London and kills H6. E4 is now finally king (yay 😐) but Dicky wants his older brothers dead (boo 😐). Is that all? A long way since H6 tried to placate York...with molehills and whatnot. Conclusive thoughts?

Graywacke Also in there, Margaret gives the strangest pre-battle pep talk ever. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke Yeah, I‘m not sure that would have riled me up to fight. 3y

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Lcsmcat How about Richard cutting down H6 in mid-speech? A very character defining moment, that. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat H6 got a jibe in. (It reminded me of Antony Hopkins working over Christopher Walkens in True Romance.) 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke Not a movie I‘ve seen, but yes, H6 got the last word. 3y

GingerAntics This certainly has been a wild ride. 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat 🤣🤣 I am thinking no that wouldn‘t be the rah rah chant to get me fired up to fight .. 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics Its a wild ride and forever using E4 H6 in my speech. I‘m so using this with students !! (edited) 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat that was a power move right? Things to come? 3y

TheBookHippie I‘ve enjoyed this one the most. I don‘t have working knowledge beforehand and the constant changing of the directions of peoples actions is just fun! I‘m not sure if everyone is exhausted or can‘t find the tag? I wasn‘t notified today I searched out our hashtag to get here. I realise people are probably busy in the US today -but generally more people discuss this with us. Too bad because I believe this to be one of my new favorites. 3y

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie it‘s going to be awesome!!! 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie Definitely a power grab! I‘m already looking forward to R3. 3y

mollyrotondo This was a fascinating final act. I know I‘m the only one but I loved H6 so much and thought he had a great character arch that concluded nicely in Act IV. And then he dies in this final Act😥 I also loved how Edward seemed like the reasonable brother by siding with Warwick but it was a complete farce and he ends by standing beside his insane brother R3. It was all shocking and brilliant and really pumped me up for R3! 3y

Lcsmcat @mollyrotondo I don‘t think you‘re the only one who liked H6. He was a decent man, just thrust into a situation he was not suited to. (A good argument against hereditary rulers, if you ask me.) He‘d have been happy as a peaceful man of letters. 3y

mollyrotondo @Lcsmcat yes it is a perfect example at why no one should inherit rule. Not all descendants are well suited for the throne and that‘s okay. H6 would have made a great philosopher or priest. He should not have been placed on throne. 3y

batsy @mollyrotondo Agree with you there! I did have a bit of a soft spot for H6 on a personal level for just wanting to be left alone with his thinky thoughts. Kind of Hamlet-like. However when you're in a position of power it becomes so dangerous, & Shakespeare does a good job in this one of showing how inherited power is just a very very very bad system. 3y

batsy I found this play really intriguing and intense and enjoyed it very much. R3 is such an engaging villain in the wings in this depiction, and so is Margaret. I only regret there isn't a totally separate play focusing on him and Margaret and their battle of Machiavellian wills. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics A wild ride, indeed. I'm exhausted. 😂 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie E4, H6 and Dicky were all ways to stay with the character limits. 🙂 But I do hope you use them in class. Also, H61, H62 and H63 (R3 felt inappropriate since he's still a Duke.) 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie @GingerAntics @Lcsmcat - things go come, indeed. R3 will be great fun. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie First, I'm glad you enjoyed. Second, I feel bad the tags didn't take. I'll try again shortly - albeit a little later than ideal. 3y

Graywacke @mollyrotondo i was not an h6 fan, but he had some great moments here and gained some respect from me. He became quite the Cassandra. I think his best moment was his death - he was pretty damn brilliant there, at the very end. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke that is a great way to describe the mental feeling I‘m having after all of that. 3y

Graywacke @batsy Margaret has a bad end - in the play and in real life. I really admired her. That signet afterward highlights how this play was about Edward and Margaret and managing Warwick - but how Richard kind of stole the show, controlling the action. Honestly, I didn't realize that until I read it there. And, lets see R out Machiavel Machiavelli. 3y

Graywacke Sorry for that late responses. It's been a day... 3y

Graywacke While I'm re-tagging everyone (because it might not have worked the first time), I'll make an announcement: May 23- Richard III, Act I, led by @GingerAntics (edited) 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke thanks so much this one was my favorite ! Looking forward to R3!!! 3y

TheBookHippie @batsy oh how I wish that were a play!!!! We should collectively write one 🤣🤣 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke I have it all written out for students they will laugh because you have to do a Shakespeare it is in curriculum and as it‘s an alternative high school when people with prejudice walk in and we are having fun reading Shakespeare they are always shocked thus spurring kids to want to read it more. They actually relate/read it better than any teens I‘ve read with so they love that. This, poetry, classical reads they really listen closely. 3y

mollyrotondo @batsy ooo I love this idea of having a separate play focusing on Margaret and R3! And I agree that R3 was such a great villain. His depiction in this part felt so cinematic and really helped make part 3 distinct. 3y

mollyrotondo @Graywacke 😂 I love that. His best moment was his death 😂 I totally understand. I think his best moment was right before his death, right after he gets captured. He‘s a very interesting person and his story makes way for so many shinier characters and an insane king. 3y

Graywacke @mollyrotondo oops, yeah that...just before. ☺️😁 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie that‘s pretty awesome. Which play(s) are you doing? 3y

batsy @TheBookHippie Haha, we should! I'll definitely confuse myself over which Henry or Edward we're writing about so be patient with me 😂😂 3y

batsy @TheBookHippie Oh no, hold on, it's just Richard and Margaret lololol 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke I get to pick which is the beauty of it so I just put in that we are doing this starting September for the school year. We are just finishing up Macbeth their request due to this graphic novel Macbeth: The Graphic Novel (American English, Original Text Edition) (Classical Comics) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1906332444/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_G65F0F12WZDS9YV... they aren‘t my thing but students love them. 3y

TheBookHippie @batsy 🤣🤣🤣 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Here is a good documentary I found on Youtube about the historical events dramatized in Henry VI parts 1-3.
Four part series, this is part 1, the other parts show up as suggestions: https://youtu.be/SB_OThWd-eA

And here is Lucy Worsley explaining how the Tudors reimagined the Wars of the Roses to justify their takeover of the English throne: https://youtu.be/dANvIjbtuDk
#shakespearereadalong

Graywacke Just spent an hour watching part and the beginning of part 2. I‘m fascinated. Enjoying the clarity too. 3y

LitStephanie @Graywacke glad you are enjoying it! Pre-19th century English history is one of my favorite Youtube binges. 3y

batsy Very cool! Thanks for sharing. 3y

LitStephanie @batsy you're welcome! 3y

TheBookHippie Oh thanks for this! I missed this post earlier. 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

☝️The cover of a 1595 variation of H63.

We‘re on Act 4. Much plot and very poor guarding. Edward is easily captured and rescued, while Henry is captured—all despite their guards. This within offstage battles between Warwick and King/Duke/King Edward. Richard is maneuvering and Henry is undermining, Clarence has changed sides. Lady Grey, is pregnant and runs off to hide. Margaret hasn‘t left France.

Thoughts on our latest #shakespearereadalong ?

Graywacke @readinginthedark @Jess_Read_This @batsy @Lcsmcat @Cuilin @TheBookHippie @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey @jewright @mollyrotondo @Melismatic @LitStephanie @CoffeeNBooks @Trashcanman @IamIamIam @Liz_M @saresmoore @catebutler @Kristy_K @kathedron @wanderinglynn @Wife @Mtroiano @MrsMalaprop @slategreyskies @Sunraven @teainthelibrary @Gezemice @Panic70 @Balibee146 @rabbitprincess @MoonWitch94 3y

Graywacke Posting issues with comments... 3y

Lcsmcat Can we just start calling Edward KDK? Because I think that would be way less confusing. 😂 I think the Huntsman line, as he agrees to go with KDK sums up the plight of the vast majority in England at that time: “Better do so than tarry and be hanged.” 3y

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Graywacke @Lcsmcat a realistic huntsman and his gentle irony. 🙂 it‘s a great line. Had to be a tricky time to try to live a normal life. 3y

batsy I got whiplash keeping up with Edward being king and not and Henry being imprisoned and not and Clarence switching sides 😆 It's a very chaotic act, but in a good way—you sort of get a sense of how involved and passionate Shakespearean audiences might have been watching the loyalties switch. But again, it's Richard's cool, calculating shrewdness that stands out ... Shakespeare laying the groundwork for his character. 3y

Graywacke @batsy yeah, whiplash. I thought Richard owned the act from his opening lines where he nudges Clarence over the edge without Clarence realizing. (And then he smoothly mans the fence between Edward and Clarence, keeping respect of both!) 3y

Graywacke Act ii got a lot of comments. Act iii very few and now act iv just two. Is anyone (or everyone) wearing out these history plays? Richard III is next and it‘s supposed to be, like, his best history play. @GingerAntics will lead that - 1st discussion May 23. Hopefully we will revive for Richard‘s catastrophe. 3y

TheBookHippie I do like them I often wonder if satire was more present than we can gather ? Are there nuances that we miss? This was chaotic but it would have to be to get to Richard yes??? Lay the groundwork is right @batsy 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie Your last question gets my attention. Could it be/should it have been simplified? I do agree we struggle with the satire, but also I think it makes it fun when we manage to pickup on it. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke I wonder how much the smaller comments today has to do with Litsy being slow. I‘m still having a long delay between hitting “send” and a post showing up. We‘ve come this far, we have to read Richard III or it will be like not finishing a book. 😀 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie I‘m sure we‘re missing things his audience would have caught, but I agree with @Graywacke that it rewards our struggles. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat i so agree that we can‘t stop now. !! I have ordered my signet copy. 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke my Litsy has been slow and wonky all week it‘s taken a bit to post today as well 😬 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke I have 3 copies of Richard and well none of them are signet so…. 😬 I ordered one 🤣 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat Definitely rewarding !!! I agree Litsy is off lately! On we go on our journey !! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie 😂 Signet is the best! (We‘re making @batsy proud.) I had a chance of basically a free copy at a used bookstore last month. They had so many editions of Riii, but not Signet. I picked up something by Muriel Spark instead. (And I hope the Litsy issues get resolved.) (edited) 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke @TheBookHippie Now I have to go see what edition my R III is! Pelican - same as my H VI Part 3. (edited) 3y

GingerAntics There sure are a lot of kings in this act. I felt like the crown/thrown was having an identity crisis. I have this strange mental image of every time a guy walked in the room, the crown/thrown asking “is this the new guy?” 3y

jewright I feel like I might be better to read the history play at one time. Spreading it out like this makes me confused about all the characters. Poor Elizabeth! 3y

jewright @GingerAntics I agree! 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics 🙂 poor 👑! 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke right? You kind of feel bad for the crown itself. Shakespeare could get quite whimsical. I‘m a little disappointed the crown didn‘t get a single line. 😏 3y

Lcsmcat @GingerAntics We‘re only on Act 4. Maybe the Crown/Throne get the last lines of Act 5. 😂 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 (edited) 3y

LitStephanie @GingerAntics yes, haha! The crown or throne making commentary would be hilarious. 3y

LitStephanie This scene seems to be all about chaos and anarchy. Men switch sides without much hesitation and with no thought to what the lengthening of the war is doing to the country. Edward IV is even bringing in brutal northern European mercenaries. Anything to win! Shakespeare compresses the timeline to really highlight the capricious loyalties. 3y

Graywacke @jewright i have thought about that, how we break up the plays and how that might not be a good idea. Also, if it‘s a play you aren‘t enjoying, this pace really drags it out. I think these are issues. There are benefits to dividing it up - the main one being we can relax and have fun without too much commitment. You might try reading the whole play at whatever pace is best. The Sunday morning reread the relevant act to freshen up. Just one idea.👇 3y

Graywacke Of course there are no real rules here. 🙂 Just a weekly chat with bard-reading peeps. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics poor 👑 plays a mute. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat 🙂 3y

Graywacke @LitStephanie that‘s how it feels to me - all chaos. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke 🤣 3y

GingerAntics @LitStephanie right? There is so much bloodshed, so many rivalries, agendas, and ulterior motives, a little commentary from the crown would be a bit of comic relief. It could do everyone some good. 3y

LitStephanie In case anyone needs a youtube history fix, I posted some good documentaries with #shakespearereadalong 3y

LitStephanie Oh, and personally I really like how we do one act at a time and have a week between plays; the idea of having to read it all at once gives me unpleasant flashbacks to college deadlines. 🤣 3y

mollyrotondo So I love these history plays and can not wait to get to Richard III. I apologize I am late for this chat. I actually had a busy weekend for my mom‘s birthday which was so nice after not being able to celebrate last year. But I do feel like Henry has finally gotten out of his depressive slump and is finally being assertive about what he wants. I thought it was honorable and honest for him to give the crown to Warwick. So now that I‘ve seen ⬇️ (edited) 3y

mollyrotondo ...Henry‘s arc, I am ready to dive into Richard III‘s crazy mind! So I just need this play to wrap up lol. I like the back and forth king capturing. It added an element of fun to this part of the play. But it can be over now lol 3y

Graywacke @mollyrotondo glad your mom had a more proper birthday this year. I think Shakespeare made a curious Henry. (I‘ve watched some of shows @LitStephanie linked to. The real Henry, well, at least that show‘s version - goodness. Poor thing.) 3y

mollyrotondo @Graywacke I really loved Henry VI even though he is certainly a weak king. I just thought he was this angelic being in the royal house as opposed to his entire court (excluding Gloucester). He was not cut out to be king and finally learns that he doesn‘t need to be the king. He can give it up and pursue his own happiness. It of course isn‘t going to have a happy ending because it is British history, but it was nice to have good Henry in this one 3y

LitStephanie @mollyrotondo I am excited for R3, too! I love this whole bloody cycle. It's funny--I can't stand Henry the 6th because he was such a weak king but, as you point out, he is who he is and can't change his personality. He at least doesn't seem vicious. 3y

mollyrotondo @LitStephanie I understand why everyone seems to hate him lol but I just feel sorry for him. This whole back and forth between the houses is fascinating but I‘m ready to move on to an official new king! 3y

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King Henry VI Part 3: Third Series | William Shakespeare, Eric Rasmussen, John D. Cox

I loved this conversation in Act 3. Really shows how the common people just tried to stay on the right side of the law. They just served whoever was king at the moment and didn't have the luxury of picking sides. #shakespearereadalong @TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat @Graywacke

Lcsmcat Yes, it‘s clever wordplay and also social commentary. 3y

TheBookHippie It‘s soo good!! 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Henry VI Part 3 Act 3
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While Henry wanders into capture, Edward preposterously woos Lady Gray, undermining Warwick‘s honor, and Margaret (“The tiger will be mild whiles she doth mourn”) and Warwick compete for French support, Richard defines the new world order, an honor-less Machiavel.

A lot of chatter and then Richard? Thoughts?

Cathythoughts That‘s a scary quote & pic 👍🏻 3y

Graywacke @Cathythoughts source 🙂 : https://jackshalom.net/2018/10/21/why-i-can-smile-and-murder-whiles-i-smile/ 3y

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Lcsmcat Henry really came off poorly in this act, but the King of France was worse. Flip-flop much? And how can Margaret think she can trust Warwick now? So much going on here. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat 🙂 capricious loyalties. Somehow I trust Margaret to make the best decision. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke Margaret does seem to know how to look out for herself. 3y

TheBookHippie Margaret will make it by hook or crook as my granny use to say!!! But goodness Henry 🤯🤦🏽‍♀️ I agree about the King of France.. Also -Henry VI, Part 3 features one of the longest soliloquies in all of Shakespeare (3.2.124–195) and has more battle scenes (four on stage, one reported) than any other of Shakespeare's plays I found this interesting ... also Lady Grey is Elizabeth I do I have that right? 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie Interesting about Henry‘s soliloquy. I don‘t have my copy with me, but it told Lady Grey‘s name. I can‘t confirm right now. (Margaret almost does. 😕) 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie Forgive me if I misunderstand your question. But, Lady Grey may be _an_ Elizabeth, but Elizabeth the First was the daughter of Henry VIII, who hasn‘t been born yet. I hadn‘t thought about the battle scenes but it makes sense, given the subject matter! 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie There‘s a lot of quotable material in this act too, isn‘t there? 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat i have so many notes!!!! 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat is she in the genealogy I think I was thinking 🤣😬 I‘m recovering still from a very awful reaction to vaccine number 2 my brain wants to reach it but cannot 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can‘t remember how it relates 🤣 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie Oh dear! I‘m sorry you had a bad reaction. Elizabeth I was daughter of Henry VIII, granddaughter of Henry VII. Beyond that it‘s not direct to Henry VI, but through a different descendant of John of Gaunt. It‘s all needlessly complicated if you ask me! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie sorry about the vaccine reaction. (my 2nd shot is Friday. I haven‘t processed yet that I should be a little worried about my reaction). Cool about the notes. Any you want to share? I typed up about half of R‘s speech to have on my phone... oh, and Lady Grey is an Elizabeth... I just checked. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat - feel free to post favorite quotes? 🙂 I thought act 3 had slow stage drama, but terrific language. 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat No wonder my brain couldn‘t make it work 🤣. I am allergic to most medication and a few vaccines, so I knew it would be problematic. First shot extreme tachycardia and vertigo. This one no tachycardia however extreme vertigo dizzy. I couldn‘t walk unassisted -could hardly stay awake and had a horrific dry cough for 72 hours -no appetite could barely stay surface level. Mr BookHippie pretty much didn‘t sleep 4 days. I‘m on day 7 now😬 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke my brain was thinking Elizabeth I was trying to grasp it all this week as Mr BookHippie read it to me. He‘s a good sport. I was note taking to make my brain function! I hope you have zero to little side affects! I‘m grateful to be through most of it. Funniest thing was my dear man saying wait we just stop reading. 🤣 (yes we don‘t finish now!) 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie That‘s tough! My family was lucky- no bad reactions. I hope yours pass soon. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke “For both are birds of selfsame feather” which gets misquoted. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke And I loved the banter/wordplay between Henry and the gamekeepers and between Edward and Lady Grey. Both too long to quote. 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat Mr BookHippie zero side affects! My daughter still waiting (in her 30s) son too young 14. My parents had zero side affects but I‘ve not heard of people their age(80s) having side affects .. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie Mr. BookHippie gets lot of points. 7 days!! I feel really bad for you. (Kudos keeping up.) My sister was out 48 hours and that was the worst story I had heard so far. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat the opening scene really struck me. Henry, for all I haven‘t liked him, was really well spoken and sharp, with spot-on analysis. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke Yes. He was in his element- philosophy- there more than he ever was on a battlefield. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat good point! 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat On the banter - i think i liked Richard (and Clarence‘s) commentary on it more than than banter itself. 🙂 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke The commentary was great, but Lady Grey got in some good lines in a tough situation. 3y

LitStephanie @Lcsmcat yeah, there was some major flipping of loyalties in this war! Not just the king of France but Warwick, too! The awful feelings between Warwick and Margaret, and then suddenly they are allies. Doesn't make any oath of loyalty seem very trustworthy. 3y

LitStephanie @TheBookHippie sorry to hear about your nasty reaction but at least you are done! I think H63 also has the most speaking roles of any of WS plays. Big cast. Maybe so much was put into the production of this cycle because the public was so fascinated and horrified at the Wars of the Roses? People still are, really--I found a bunch of documentaries when we first started reading and sort of fell down a rabbit hole. 3y

Graywacke @LitStephanie interesting about the cast size. And I‘m curious what you found. Also, random, but i really like the abbreviation H63. 3y

LitStephanie @Graywacke that's the nerdy Lit major in me, haha! I found some really good documentaries on youtube. Next time I get on there, I will grab the names of the good ones and post with the group hashtag. I am pretty picky about sources and found some that seemed credible. It is hard to keep in one's head the real events vs. the play's compression of timeline, incorrect sites of battles, and other poetic liberties! 3y

TheBookHippie @LitStephanie I think we‘ve all gone down the rabbit hole with this one!!! So much. 3y

LitStephanie @TheBookHippie glad it isn't just me. 3y

batsy I don't have much to add except that I continue to find all of the backstabbing (and actual stabbing) very compelling 🤓 And with Richard's monologue and Warwick's lines at the end, I had the X-Files theme song playing in my head with the words TRUST NO ONE ringing through it 😂 3y

Graywacke @LitStephanie thanks! Look forward to it. @TheBookHippie It‘s almost harder not to dive in. 🙂 3y

Graywacke @batsy ah, I don‘t know this song, but the line is a good theme. I really liked R‘s monologue. I think it might be the most shocking thing in the play. It just comes out of nowhere. (edited) 3y

batsy @Graywacke Yes! It's rather unhinged and has some great lines indicating his state of mind. Something about "For many lives stand between me and home" indicating the crown as his natural right was quite chilling. 3y

Graywacke @batsy he had a some lives to work through. 😳 3y

mollyrotondo I agree with @Graywacke and @Lcsmcat about how composed and well spoken Henry was in the first scene. This is why I love him! He is a philosopher at heart and knows this about himself. Now that he is in hiding he can be himself. And then of course he gets captured 🤦🏻‍♀️. But it was a really well done scene. Just when you start to feel his confidence he gets taken away in chains. Poor Henry!!! 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Ending my readathon reading with waffle sticks made yesterday and another act of Henry VI this morning. I am enjoying this play so much more than the previous part. #ShakespeareReadalong #BookAndBreakfast #ArkAngelShakespeare

It‘s been a good #readathon. I finished a print book for #LitsyBookClub discussion today and listened to several hours of two audiobooks for 13 hours total. #DeweysReadathon #DeweyApril

tpixie I broke my mug 😢 2y

Daisey @tpixie Oh, I‘m sorry to hear that! I don‘t use mine a lot, but I do enjoy it whenever I do. 2y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Act 2 - parleys and battles while King Henry VI sits on his molehill, complaining, “O God! Methinks it were a happy life, To be no better than a homely swain” Several monologues, some striking lines and curious real historical oddities. (Look up parhelion). Edward‘s decisive victory means he‘s free to take the crown.

The bard is linking historical battles. Thoughts? Are you more or less into this?

#shakespearereadalong

TheBookHippie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_Anjou 3y

Graywacke There are lots of sources on the War of Roses, but I just found and enjoyed exploring this site. https://www.britishbattles.com/wars-of-the-roses/battle-of-mortimers-cross/ 3y

Graywacke Historical context. Act 1 closed with the Battle of Wakefield, where York died. Act 2 opens with the Battle of Mortimer‘s Cross, a victory for Edward and where 3 suns did actually appear in a natural phenomenon called parhelion. Then we hear of the Second Battle of St. Albans, where Warwick did flee. And Act 2 closes with Battle of Towton, Edward‘s decisive victory. Warwick did, in the mythology, kill his horse as a promise not to flee. 3y

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TheBookHippie He has to be linking them right?? I went on so many google adventures and digging up history I knew sounded familiar. I actually like that fact, but I wonder why, what was he getting at? I do like this one best so far (part 3) as it is so intriguing to me. I was looking up Margaret as well after last week since I admire her so 😬🤣😳 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie what did you find? I like this one best, too. 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie Yes please share your sources on Margaret! 3y

Lcsmcat So many quotable (and oft-quoted) lines in this act! The contrast between Henry and Richard is clearly drawn: one who thinks God controls everything so why do anything, the other who thinks his actions control everything. 3y

TheBookHippie First of all is Margaret based on http://www.britannica.com/biography/Margaret-Tudor Margaret Tudor or Anjou or both ? https://www.playshakespeare.com/richard-iii/characters/queen-margaret and https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharI... and http://www.shakespeareandhistory.com/queen-margaret.php and https://www.thoughtco.com/margaret-of-anjou-3529625 and 3y

TheBookHippie I now want to study all the Margarets (edited) 3y

batsy I'm all in! I felt like Henry is a little bit of a proto-Hamlet, just whinier and maybe more puritanical 😅 3y

batsy @TheBookHippie Thanks for those; I look forward to a Margaret deep dive. 3y

TheBookHippie @batsy Right like let me inside a library please I have Shakespeare Margaret to do 🤣 3y

mollyrotondo So my two favorite parts in this act were Richard pointing out the three suns. “Three glorious subs, each one a perfect sun...Now are they but one lamp, one light, one sun. In this the heaven figures some event.” And poor Henry on his molehill wishing he was a homely swain. “Gives not the hawthorn-bush a sweeter shade to shepherds looking on their silly sheep, than doth a rich-embroider‘d canopy to kings that fear their subjects‘ treachery?” 💔 3y

mollyrotondo Thank you @TheBookHippie for the Margaret info. I will dive into that this afternoon and report back! Lol 3y

TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/33797294 another 😅 3y

GingerAntics Henry seriously needs to man up! In the middle of the battle he stops to lament how hard is life is?! Seriously? If he wasn‘t such a weakling, he wouldn‘t even be in this battle. For the love. The Yorkists deserve the thrown the way Henry is acting. I did like the three suns speech. 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics MAN UP!!!! 😅😖😂 3y

Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie Thanks for the links. That should keep me busy for a bit. 😀 3y

TheBookHippie @Lcsmcat RIGHT I WAS ALL OVER THE WEB 🤯😅 I am really intrigued I went an off shoot on some feminist writers as well who think Shakespeare changed thinking of women and their roles! Quarantine back to back I had time 😫 3y

Lcsmcat @GingerAntics Shakespeare doesn‘t touch on it, for obvious reasons, but Henry VI had a mental illness that kept him from ruling, so while he might have been a weak king, I don‘t think he could “man up.” 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat oh, that‘s right. Edward didn‘t meet his father for a few years because Henry was practically catatonic. I always forget which Henry that is. 3y

Lcsmcat @GingerAntics And the York side used the fact that he was unaware he had a son to imply Margaret had an affair and the boy was a bastard. So it was a whole big mess going on. 😀 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat his entire reign was a hot mess. No one‘s sure, but of course inbreeding comes to mind. 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat I‘m trying to remember where in the events of the plays Henry has his second fit. I thought it was closer to his death, but it could be while he was in exile. I‘m going to have to go back and review. 3y

Lcsmcat @GingerAntics Yeah, darn those recessive genes. You just can‘t safely marry your cousin. 😂 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat 😂🤣😂 it‘s too bad, really. Look how well Elizabeth and Philip did. Then again, there is always Charles‘s ears to consider. Good thing they all married out of their family. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie all those links! Oh my. Wow. Terrific. (And I‘m curious what Shakespeare changed, re feminism. ) 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke Right?! I asked my friend for her copies of the vindication of the rights of women I have 3 copies here all different she has even differing versions and we both swear we read Shakespeare references in women‘s studies in college -you know 1983 🤣🤣 we can‘t remember but we swear it‘s that book. Ha. (edited) 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat Henry is annoying, Richard is, well, smart, at least. Was he disfigured (“stigmatic”)? In the after stuff of Signet part one Ralph Fiennes (pictured here) writes he wouldn‘t have played Hvi if he thought H wasn‘t smart. Hmm... 3y

Graywacke @batsy yay for all in! but... I really like Hamlet 🙁 3y

Graywacke @mollyrotondo two great scenes. H on his molehill is so funny to me. 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke I think Henry was smart, just maybe not clever. And his bouts of illness would give him a different take on the world, and maybe make him less inclined to believe he could control fate. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat @GingerAntics @TheBookHippie on Man Up. Henry, to me, is like Ghandi without any of the intelligence. He seems to think if he‘s peaceful, all solves itself. ?? I do wonder about the real hvi‘s mental illness. From what I know, it seems all too convenient for me, like a survival tactic. But... I haven‘t dived in. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke he went through two big events a year or more at a time, where he couldn‘t speak, couldn‘t really care for himself, drooling is generally described. He was king in name only, obviously, during those times. Some people have called them strokes, but he wouldn‘t have just snapped out of them like he did. Of course it‘s hard to diagnose him after all these years, but he definitely had something. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie i wrote down a few Margaret lines. Like, when Hvi sees York‘s head on a pike and starts to mourn, and she says, “Doth not the object cheer your heart, my lord.” She is still my favorite character here. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat I‘m on the fence on Henry‘s intelligence. Maybe it‘s a maturity thing (Shakespeare‘s Henry). Maybe he‘s just a man-child. ?? 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics two a year? That‘s strange. And tough. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke @Lcsmcat @TheBookHippie “In August 1453, Henry VI fell into an inertia that lasted 18 months. Some historians believe he was suffering from catatonic schizophrenia, a condition characterised by symptoms including stupor, catalepsy (loss of consciousness) and mutism. Others have referred to it simply as a mental breakdown.” 3y

Lcsmcat @Graywacke Richard was hunchbacked. I wondered about the “stigmatic” which would normally be used to denote extreme holiness. But maybe his posture reminded her of how your body would be distorted if you were hung on a cross? 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke she‘s my new favorite Shakespeare character. Her lines are just so good. 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics hmmmmm 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics severe anxiety ?? Those attacks can be no joke. 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat she is playing with the holy and pained imagery. “like a foul misshapen stigmatic”. Vivid... not kind. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie @GingerAntics he was under a little stress... 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke @TheBookHippie I‘ve had those and they‘re no joke, but this was full on absence of mental ability. I hope I never have that happen from anxiety. 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat there is some Richard III society or something that got so upset when they found R3‘s skeleton under a car park and they found he really was a hunchback. Apparently this society was saying his hunchback and his despotism were all propaganda. They claimed he was a victim of others‘ ambitions. It was actually kind of sad. She got a bit teary. 3y

Lcsmcat @GingerAntics I remember that. It does seem funny to get upset over it this far into the future. 3y

GingerAntics @Lcsmcat right? She was really upset and if I remember correctly she mentioned how upset everyone at the society was going to be. I almost wonder if the hurt feelings didn‘t come from a sense of ablism of sorts. 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I hope you don‘t either . .. I have severe anxiety and it was close when I was postpartum with my daughter- I had to learn grounding rituals it‘s awful. Thankfully I‘ve not had bad episodes like that since stress can cause reallly bad ones could be in this case. 3y

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie oh wow, I‘m so sorry to hear that. That‘s the reason I‘m not sure I should have kids, even though I‘ve wanted kids as long as I can remember. I‘m trying to think if I‘ve ever read anything that even considered anxiety. A type of schizophrenia seems to be the most popular choice. This is where it would be awesome to have a TARDIS and go back and get him a proper diagnosis. 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics Yes for sure. With some people in the past we have to remember that sexually transmitted diseases affected the brain too, Syphilis can invade the nervous system at any stage of infection, and causes a wide range of symptoms, including headache, altered behavior, difficulty coordinating muscle movements, paralysis, sensory deficits, and dementia. This invasion of the nervous system is called “neurosyphilis. ⬇️ 3y

TheBookHippie The first well-recorded European outbreak of what is now known as syphilis occurred in 1495 among French troops besieging Naples, Italy. It may have been transmitted to the French via Spanish mercenaries serving King Charles of France in that siege. From this centre, the disease swept across Europe. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics i find that fascinating, that we have R‘s skeleton and the myth is correct. 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie that seems like an idea worth pursuing. Hmm. 3y

mollyrotondo @Lcsmcat @GingerAntics thank you for pointing out HVI‘s mental health issues. He wasn‘t just a weak king but a man with health problems that affected his ability to rule and make decisions on his own. This would have made it easy for the people in his court to betray him and try to rule the throne themselves and the Queen to take charge of the army. But Shakespeare probably couldn‘t outright say he was ill because it might offend current court 3y

Lcsmcat @mollyrotondo I don‘t think Shakespeare could have pointed out anything that made a monarch look bad, since “divine right” and all that. 3y

mollyrotondo @Lcsmcat haha very true. 3y

mollyrotondo From one of the links posted by @TheBookHippie 1453 HVI “was suffering from a severe mental disorder at the time (undoubtedly inherited from his maternal grandfather, King Charles VI of France) and was unaware that his child had even been born. With the king incapacitated and the new prince a minor, it was decided that a protector should be appointed... .It is at this point that historians can trace Margaret's hunger for power ⬇️ 3y

mollyrotondo The queen felt that she should be appointed protector in her husband's place but was voted down by the council. In turn, the position was given to the Duke of York...” 3y

mollyrotondo So Duke of York actually does take the throne while HVI is ill and Margaret gets voted down as protector creating even more animosity toward York. So it‘s not just a mother protecting her son‘s inheritance but jealousy. I still feel bad for Henry and I still don‘t like Margaret. She causes the war to break out; she brings the rivalry to a head by her lust for power and her revenge on York for taking the throne she felt she deserved as Queen. 3y

TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo isn‘t it crazy fascinating ?! I still like her 😫😬 probably because it‘s just amazingly written and her power hunger I admire 🤐 which is so opposite of who I am 😅 however I think she could of had power if she was a man and so I‘d be pissed too (edited) 3y

TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo which leads me back to my women empowerment wondering of Shakespeare writing her. 3y

mollyrotondo @TheBookHippie it is all extremely fascinating. Oh yes she was voted down most likely because she was a woman which is infuriating but it doesn‘t help ones image to start a war over it. And technically York was the rightful heir to the throne so her actions just seem bitter to me. She‘s a hard one for me to like but again this War is the Roses thing seems like it should have been solved quickly in hindsight and to me an American 😂 3y

TheBookHippie @mollyrotondo HA have you seen the old Michael Douglas War of the Roses movie ?! Hysterical to think of when reading this. War of the Roses: Reminds me of the mafia and their family wars. (edited) 3y

mollyrotondo @TheBookHippie I have not seen the Michael Douglas movie. I will add it to my list of movies for the week. It is totally like the mafia and their family dramas. Getting so many people killed over family feuds. 3y

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie STIs have been around so long. We have so many treatments for a lot (most?) of them now, but back then it just sort of spread and good luck to you. It‘s a miracle we‘re not all born with STIs at this point. I think syphilis has been suggested as part of Henry 8‘s problem/decline in his later years. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke they found it under a car park in England somewhere. There was a documentary on it. I‘ll have to go look to see where I streamed it from. It was really fascinating. When they lined up the vertebra and even the ribs, you can see this clear twisting and curving happening. The poor guy would have probably been in excruciating pain most of his life. Apparently he wasn‘t really a hunchback, but had scoliosis. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke this article actually has a really cool digital 3D model of what his spine would have looked like, adding in the discs and the cartilage. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/05/29/317024621/no-hunch-here-ric... I‘m still looking for the documentary. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics cool. And thanks! 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics yes Henry VIII FOR SURE! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie @GingerAntics was, by chance, discussing hviii on another site. Seems researchers think CTE (head trauma) : https://qz.com/611668/henry-viiis-erratic-behavior-was-likely-caused-by-an-nfl-s... 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke @TheBookHippie oh, I hadn‘t thought of CTE for him, or honestly most men in armour in that time period. The tournaments and the actual battles were probably rife with head injuries. Hm. That‘s something to think about. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics oh, wildly new to me too. Who knew jousting was such a ... concussion sport. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke I did know it was violent and people died from it, but I guess I never bridged the gap between the violence of it (we talk about the violence in American football all the time) and traumatic head injuries. It seems so obvious when you put it together though. I‘m still quite curious about co-morbidities. There was something about H8‘s legs that pointed to syphilis, but that certainly doesn‘t rule off the CTE. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke Those two in combination would certainly have made for quite the unstable king, and that seems the politest way to describe H8 in his later years. 3y

Graywacke @merelybookish @readinginthedark @Jess_Read_This @batsy @Lcsmcat @Cuilin @TheBookHippie @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Daisey @jewright @mollyrotondo @Melismatic @LitStephanie @CoffeeNBooks @Trashcanman @IamIamIam @Liz_M @saresmoore @catebutler @Kristy_K @kathedron @wanderinglynn @Wife @Mtroiano @MrsMalaprop @slategreyskies @Sunraven @teainthelibrary @Gezemice @Panic70 @Balibee146 @rabbitprincess @MoonWitch94 - just an announcement, see next comment 3y

Graywacke Next, after we finish, Henry VI, @GingerAntics will lead Richard III. I don‘t have a date yet, but we will probably begin May 16 or 23 or 30. 3y

Graywacke (Sorry for double post) 3y

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King Henry VI Part 3: Third Series | William Shakespeare, Eric Rasmussen, John D. Cox

Love when Queen Margaret comes in mad as hell and cowardly King Henry 6 tries to flee the room. #shakespearereadalong

SamAnne 😂😂😂 3y

TheBookHippie 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 3y

jewright I mean I couldn‘t really blame her for her reaction. 😂 3y

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Graywacke This picture. 😂😂 3y

batsy Lol! 3y

LitStephanie @Graywacke isn't it great? This was apparently a production at the Globe. 3y

MoonWitch94 I can‘t love Margaret anymore here. So good! 3y

Graywacke This still makes me laugh. Sorry... 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

#shakespearereadalong
Henry VI Part 3 - Act 1

A series of moves, swift across the stage and text. Henry gives up inheritance of the crown to end the civil war, and Margaret, seeing the consequences, makes her move before York can make his. Prince Rutland is murdered. And Margaret and York exchange pre-execution speeches. I was riveted. It‘s only Act 1. Lots on striking new characters, and Richard stands out. Lots of lines.

What did you think?

Graywacke Hopefully I didn‘t miss anyone. If you wants on or off this list, just let know. 3y

MoonWitch94 I‘m in a virtual play today; I‘ll leave my thoughts later! Can‘t wait to read the discussion. 3y

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mollyrotondo I couldn‘t believe York dies in the first Act! I was not expecting him to be eliminated so quickly! Margaret is more the ruthless and power hungry king than our dear Henry. Henry made a safe and thoughtful decision for peace. But here comes Margaret barreling down to fight, lead an army, and take back what her foolish husband gave up 😅 I still don‘t like her but she is an amazing contrast to Henry. They are great over exaggerated characters. 3y

Lcsmcat Given all the action and death, this was like Act 3 instead of Act 1! I feel like Margaret has changed very quickly over the course of the plays and is almost an English Joan of Arc in this one. 3y

Daisey I had a tough time getting through Part 2, but the action in this first act completely pulled me back in to the story. 3y

TheBookHippie Well. Margaret! 😳💀 I remember reading The Vindication of Women I think they mentioned Shakespeare understood Women, that they had ability of cunningly obtaining power by playing on the WEAKNESS of men; and they may well glory in their illicit sway. That‘s what came to mind when I was reading this!!!! I‘m starting to love her character. Clearly I have dark admiration🤣 3y

Graywacke @MoonWitch94 “in” wow, cool. 3y

Graywacke @mollyrotondo they are “great over-exaggerated characters”. I like the phrase. And I was stunned when I first learned York gets dispatched so quickly. (Kudos Margaret 😊). Margaret is something... 3y

Graywacke @Lcsmcat agree. Busy, and inconsistent. I think York changed too. Or he felt different to me. But I‘m not sure I could clearly express why. (I like this Margaret!) 3y

Graywacke @Daisey yay! I feel similar. I was intrigued by part 2, but I haven‘t been this into either previous part. Or the H iv‘s. Glad you‘re enjoying! 3y

Graywacke @TheBookHippie so, you‘re comment has me thinking this way. This is maybe the bards second drama. And here he has come out with a really strong female character, one of the strongest since, like, the classic Greek plays. He‘s making such a foundational statement with this Margaret. I adore her in this act. She‘s so smart and nearly wipes this problem out - were is not for Warwick...and, especially, Richard. Hope she stays like this moving on. 3y

GingerAntics This one is certainly moving at quite a quick pace! Act one and we already have a body count. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics Titus vibes. 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke that‘s for sure. I may have to keep a body count again. 🤣 Love Margaret in this act, though. She‘s not taking anyone‘s crap. 3y

Graywacke @GingerAntics she gets it. She knows her position and does what she has to do. I really appreciate her. Of course, she‘s also dramatically and unnecessarily cruel. 3y

LitStephanie Henry IV is such a coward. I laughed out loud at 1.1 210-213 when, after disinheriting his son rather than fight, the quenn comes in looking mad, and he tries to slink away with Exeter. 🤣 3y

Graywacke @LitStephanie that was really funny! The image it leaves. (There were a few lines before that that made me smile too. Does Clifford pause a moment and realize he just called the king a poltroon? And later Exeter‘s comments causes Henry to question- “Art though against us, Duke of Exeter?”) 3y

GingerAntics @Graywacke I completely agree with that. I think she takes pleasure in the power of being able to be cruel to people who get in her way, and knowing she can‘t be touched (at least in theory). 3y

TheBookHippie @Graywacke I do too!!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 3y

TheBookHippie @LitStephanie slink being the absolute accurate word!! 3y

TheBookHippie @GingerAntics 😂💀💀💀 3y

jewright Definitely an action packed first act. Margaret definitely is a strong character. I just wanted to ask her if she wants her son to live perhaps continuing the war isn‘t the best choice. 3y

batsy This was a dark, fast-paced act! Like @TheBookHippie I found myself admiring Margaret, and wondered about myself... 😆 But she has some great lines; absolutely seething in anger wrt the incompetence of Henry's authority. She's terrifying, & a modern version of her absolute will to power is the kind of thing we'll take to the streets to protest, but Shakespeare's depiction of her is very compelling. 3y

batsy Also, when Margaret put a paper crown on York's head I thought how devastating the French can be with their veiled symbolism of tennis balls and paper crowns 😳 3y

TheBookHippie @batsy HAHAHAHA!!! Apparently we have issues. I loved the paper crown. I loved everything about her in this ACT!! OY. 3y

MoonWitch94 @batsy @TheBookHippie I‘m right there with you in admiration of this dark & twisty runaway train of an Act. And Margaret 😍 I just wanted to high five her 🤣 @Graywacke Yes, I was acting in a virtual play for an online play festival. We were recording all day yesterday for it. I‘m a freelance theatre artist so having the chance to perform is really exciting in these times! 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

I began my day with coffee and an act of Shakespeare before church. We‘re on to Part 3, and I thought it started off strong. It pulled my interest back after not really enjoying Part 2.

#ShakespeareReadalong #ArkAngelShakespeare

Saknicole Those are great audio productions! I‘ve been thinking about reading that play but haven‘t yet... 3y

Daisey @Saknicole I agree! I‘ve been participating in the #ShakespeareReadalong for over a year now and I always listen to the ArkAngel version as I read. Once in a while, I consider another, but these are so good! 3y

Saknicole Ohhhhhh #shakespearereadalong ! I‘m so down! 3y

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Henry VI Part 3 | William Shakespeare

Reading a plot summary I think this play is seriously lacking of a Josh Kirby cover. What a crazy sequence of events. The War of Roses traditionally began with the The First Battle of St. Albans, which closed Part 2. If part 2 was a foundation (well, and part 1), this is the mess in action. It‘s messy. See you Sunday (April 11).

Henry VI Part 3
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Act I - Apr 11
Act II - Apr 18
Act III - Apr 25
Act IV - May 2
Act V - May 9