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vlwelser
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This one was super interesting. It is about bias in AI. How it happened and why it matters. I saw the author at the MA Women's Conference.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Hello #SheSaid! Sorry for the late post, got distracted with the family this long holiday weekend here in the US. I hope you all are having a great weekend wherever you are AND enjoying the end of this book.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I liked this one, I know a few of you found it repetitive with things we‘ve read previously, but I still felt like I got something from it. I liked the mix of stories, personal antedates, studies, and how she brought it all together. For me, how our unconscious brain works and developed through evolution to other outside groups as dangerous in ways we don‘t even realize was new, and knowing makes it easier to question those instincts. ⤵️ (edited) 11mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ so for me, still insightful beyond the history of how it came about as a tool of imperialism and colonialism and economic gain & labor windfall…. That biological part was still interesting, & to me, important for how so many went along for so long and still do with easy superficial categorization & prejudices. All that fake science, inferiority of the other, justification history… when some of the glitch is in our own mental processing. 11mo
willaful The perspectives from people who'd been present during the Charlottesville rally was really interesting to me. But I was uncomfortable with the many, unquestioned, instances of white people burdening black people with their guilty feelings. The author is really a lot more middle-of-the-road than I am. 😂 11mo
Julsmarshall I didn‘t get to this one, but I hope to in the future. Thanks for sharing your perspectives, all! 11mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Yes! I found myself wondering if that was the scientist in her or the I want this to be read & relatable to a white public so tilt it their way objective. 🤷‍♀️. Funny how the more you read, the more you think about those kinds of angles. 11mo
willaful Yes, I don't know if it was deliberate but I can definitely see her “sandwiching“ the less palatable sections between an easier beginning and ending. 11mo
vlwelser Ultimately I really liked this because it was very readable. That chapter on Charlottesville was very interesting. I liked that the people she interviewed came from diverse backgrounds. 11mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Yes, some of that might have been editing somewhere, I‘m always curious about some of that and where those choices come in. 11mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Julsmarshall Get to it when you can if you want, sometimes it‘s all in reading it at the right time for you. 11mo
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vlwelser
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Pickpick

This is very well written. The author takes stories from her own life as well as those of others and looks at different scenarios where bias is quite common.

#SheSaid @Riveted_Reader_Melissa

#BookSpinBingo @TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Great progress!! 11mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Hello #SheSaid! How are you doing this week?

See you in the comments 😉

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m all caught up this week 😂. How is everyone else doing? I saw a great show on This Week with John Oliver on YouTube (it was old, but I saw it this week). I‘ll post it below for an easy copy & paste. It was about AI, but how we are programming our biases into it …seemed so relevant with this book that it stuck with me. (edited) 12mo
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AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa that is an interesting piece from John Oliver. I have to say that reading this book has made me take a step back and think about my own biases. It's a good read, but I do find it repetitive 12mo
vlwelser @AllDebooks is it repetitive itself or repetitive because we already read a lot of these books? 12mo
vlwelser I love that she tells these stories that we are already familiar with through her own lens and brings new perspective to this. But this isn't exactly ground breaking. I like that it's incredibly easy to read. The chapters are long but I don't feel bored. 12mo
AllDebooks @vlwelser I find her writing repetitive, labouring over the same points. It could have been a much shorter book with a good edit. I don't mind repeated topics in books at all. Another's pov could always bring a new perspective. 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks @vlwelser I think some of it is because the book originally came out in 2019, and if we had read it then it would have been very new… but we‘ve read others written since then covering similar ground. Despite all of that though, I‘m still finding some of the studies and insights informative. Just the little studies of writing critiques differently, with a change in the post-it note example…and how that fed down through work and ⤵️ 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ perception and outcomes. Such small changes that you think mean little, can produce such big dividends. 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sone of those studies I‘m still finding very interesting, and somewhat hopeful that our little things do (can) make a difference, especially in a world where you feel like your little part doesn‘t amount to much so some people go why bother 12mo
willaful It's actually making me think about my biases in a different direction. 😲 For example, when she talked to the administrator who started to cry, my immediate reaction was “oh great, white woman tears!“ But the administrator genuinely learned from the situation and sought to change. 12mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m a bit behind, please feel free to start without me, and I‘ll check back later today when I catch up 🤷‍♀️ So sorry….my Saturday reading time disappeared yesterday somehow.

vlwelser I don't know if I'm more horrified by the Boston thing or the ape thing. But her class at the prison made me hopeful. 12mo
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vlwelser This is really well written but nothing so far has exactly blown my mind. It sort of reaffirms things we already know or have already read about. 12mo
AllDebooks @vlwelser I agree, although I was surprised about the facial recognition facts. I do find some areas repetitive at times. 12mo
willaful I was more engaged with this section than the first chapters. I felt like she was finally getting into some of the nitty gritty that it seemed like she'd been pussy-footing around. Perhaps to ease people into what she has to say?

The prison class section I thought was pretty powerful. Really gives a sense of how much people *lose* from being incarcerated that the bald facts don't convey.
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willaful I'm also currently reading Let This Radicalize You, which has a chapter on how people organize and provide mutual aid in prison. It makes a really good companion read to this. 12mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Hello #SheSaid!

I wasn‘t sure how this one would be, super dense studies and theory, or more readable?

I‘m finding it a great mix of both, very readable, but with studies and great examples to back up the concepts to make it easy to understand.

How‘s everyone else doing with our newest selection?

And how about that question/conversation with her son… heartbreaker 😞

vlwelser This is very interesting. Both stories about her sons are so interesting. Especially from the perspective of a bias researcher with black sons. Our society is kind of a mess. This is so readable. Even the boring study parts. 12mo
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Becker This book has been recommended to me on several occasions. Maybe it‘s time to pick it up! 12mo
Singout Yes, the story about her small son recognizing “fear” in White people went right to the gut. I found the opening parts about physical differences in the brains of people who‘ve had different experiences intriguing too. 12mo
MallenNC I got this late from the library so I‘ve only read the introduction so far. I‘m interested in what she‘s going to cover so I hope I‘ll be able to catch up this week. 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser Yes! We are such a mess…and that messiness seems to be boiling to the surface more and more 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Becker Time to read with us! It‘s very good so far, and not very long or difficult to read. 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout Yes! And the one in the beginning, about asking if the black guy on their trip…he looked like daddy, but was he there to rob. Those things are such opposites and so telling especially when coming from an innocent child whose perception is all what we as a society have put in there. So heartbreaking to me. 12mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout Yes, I found it interesting that beliefs about if people were set in their ways or could change, effected how their brain processed faces. Very interesting that no matter how much is baked in, some is our individual openess verses closed off. (edited) 12mo
willaful I was really interested in the section about how white actors respond negatively to black actors in shows, even when they're playing positive roles. I'd love to see more reaearch about that.

But the book is making me a bit uncomfortable... I guess because I'm more radical than the author, and like she does herself, wonder if the workshops she gives are of any use at all. I don't know if she has any info or statistics to back up her work.
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AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa this is incredible. It's really making me think about how I or my children interact. And that's exactly the effect I would want. 12mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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Up Next for #SheSaid in November!

Put in your library holds and interlibrary loans!

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ravenlee
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It got weirder.
#catsofLitsy #DannyBoy

dabbe Da sweet kitty! 🖤🐾🖤 1y
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ravenlee
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I just walked out of my bedroom to…whatever this is. #catsofLitsy #DannyBoy #whataweirdo

Susanita That‘s a relaxed kitty 😸 1y
Tamra 😂 1y
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BkClubCare
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Always bring a book to EVERY appt. Certainly a top ten on the Rules for Readers, right? Am at physical therapy for my elbows that won‘t get better (another certainty: strong energetic dogs are hazardous to joints and limbs!)

“Our brains are better at processing faces that evoke a sense of familiarity.” Learning lots of good stuff already.

MyNamesParadise Yes, I found this book to be very informative and well written! I learned a lot from this book. 2y
Hooked_on_books This book is really good! And yes, books should be brought to all appointments and anywhere one thinks there‘s even a remote chance of waiting. Just in case! 2y
BkClubCare @Hooked_on_books - yes 🙌 (And then I got distracted by Litsy 🤦🏻‍♀️ (edited) 2y
MyNamesParadise @BkClubCare no I haven‘t! Looks like a good read! 2y
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