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Dark Emu
Dark Emu: Black Seeds : Agriculture Or Accident? | Bruce Pascoe
Dark Emu puts forward an argument for a reconsideration of the hunter-gatherer tag for pre-colonial Aboriginal Australians. The evidence insists that Aboriginal people right across the continent were using domesticated plants, sowing, harvesting, irrigating and storing - behaviors inconsistent with the hunter-gatherer tag. Gerritsen and Gammage in their latest books support this premise but Pascoe takes this further and challenges the hunter-gatherer tag as a convenient lie. Almost all the evidence comes from the records and diaries of the Australian explorers, impeccable sources.
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jenniferw88
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LeeRHarry Great choice for this prompt. 😊 4mo
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danx
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In Dark Emu we learn that pre colonial Australia was not populated by unsophisticated nomadic hunter gatherers, but by people who had established agriculture, lived in houses and villages, curated the landscape. Major crops included yams and grains. A people who lived for ~65,000 years with an attachment and respect for land and who did not rely on violence as an integral part of their society. We could all learn so much from First Nations people.

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ChaoticMissAdventures
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Reading about the Aboriginal people during this American Thanksgiving. There are so many similarities between how the colonizers disregarded the Native people's humanity. This is an interesting look at why and what has been overlooked re: these old world people.
Highly readable, though there are many facts and figures it was a breeze to get into and through.

CarolynM FYI there‘s been some debate about how much of this book is accurate, coming from the indigenous side as well as the reactionaries. Bruce Pascoe has welcomed the discussion, particularly the book 1y
ChaoticMissAdventures @CarolynM this was recommended to me from an Aboriginal friend from Oz, being American I had never heard of it until she suggested it. I do that the updated Emu, where he talks a lot about updates. I will check out this other one too thanks! (It has taken me 3 years to get to this one after she sent it to me....so who knows what has come out about it since then) 1y
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ChaoticMissAdventures
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It is always nice when a male author acknowledges that the contributions from women are not taken seriously, and that it is a problem.

"The evidence of Mary Gilmore is downgraded by some academics, and one suspects that being a woman and a poet didn't help her cause. The writing of Alice Duncan -Kemp is also often dismissed simply because she was a woman."

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Eva_B
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Disappointed in this one. People have been raving about the importance of this book but I found it a bit flawed and not the revelation I was expecting. Much of what he talks about is not new and has been taught in Australian schools in the past. I found it hard to believe that students and academics researching Aboriginal history and culture are as ignorant as Pascoe claims. There is much to admire, learn and value about Aboriginal culture

CarolynM Maybe it's more of a revelation for older generations (like mine) who absolutely were not taught these things in school. In fact we were taught a lot of things about this subject that were outright lies. I agree that it's a flawed book, the writing isn't good and it's unnecessarily repetitive, but I think it's important nonetheless. 3y
Eva_B Sure @CarolynM I see your point but I think there are better sources of information out there. Sometimes books gain popularity because of who has written them rather than what‘s been written.There is a new book out called ‘Farmers or Hunter Gatherers: The Dark Emu Debate‘ by Peter Sutton and Keryn Walshe published by Melbourne University Press. I‘ve only skimmed through it but they make some really valid points. I‘ve added it to my ‘To read‘ list 3y
MrsMalaprop I‘m reading the Walshe & Sutton book now. Need to grow my mind & understanding. 2y
Eva_B That‘s great! @MrsMalaprop .You‘re ahead of me. It‘s still in my never ending ‘To read‘ pile. 😊 2y
MrsMalaprop It was fairly dry, but I am very glad I read it & then a bunch of other analyses of the whole debate. 2y
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Yanya
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Oh you just have to read this! It should be studied at schools! So that "we will admire and love our land all the more!"

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CarolynM
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Darklunarose This was a really good read. 4y
Freespirit Wow some awesome reading there!! 4y
RachelAmphlett Currently reading Dark Emu too! 4y
OriginalCyn620 Nice! 👌🏻 4y
Gillyreads Great choices 👍 4y
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SamAnne

Article in today's New York Times. Interested in Australian Littens comments, perspectives. I read a lot of Northwest U.S. indigenous history because I live on land that was the Tribes and I work on restoring salmon with Tribes. But I've read little on Aboriginal history. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/books/bruce-pascoe-aboriginal-history-austral...

LapReader It‘s got people talking & thinking about other perspectives & that is fantastic. There is also a kid‘s version of the book which is awesome. I‘d like to see it as a reference book in schools. I love the taste of lots of native Australian foods & hope that 1 day I will be able to buy quandongs at the markets like I can buy oranges thanks to Bruce. If you are interested in visiting Australia (if you haven‘t already) I would recommend reading... 4y
Darklunarose I really enjoyed reading Pascoe work. It had taken away some of the white washing I grew up with using primary resources as reference. 4y
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Darklunarose
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This was an amazing read that throws the history taught by our nation on its hard, and backs it up with accounts from primary resources. It‘s a must read for every Australian.

CarolynM Yes. 4y
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Darklunarose
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Please be a rest day, please be a rest day, please be a rest day. We have been doing so much this week a rest day would be nice.

CarolynM Hope you get some rest💕 4y
Darklunarose @CarolynM thanks. Me too. Will see what the kids have in store! But hopefully they are in the same page 4y
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Darklunarose
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6.30 am. The whole house is asleep. The sun hasn‘t even poked his head over the horizon, time for some quiet reading. It‘s going to be a long day on three hours sleep.

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Messiejessie
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This is a must read for all Australians. It‘s heartbreaking, enlightening and awe-inspiring. I‘m so glad I read this. I can‘t recommend it highly enough.

CarolynM Couldn't agree more. Should be compulsory reading. 4y
Darklunarose One of my current reads at the moment too. Such an important and eye opening book. 4y
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Darklunarose
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A dark, grey, cold and rainy day in Adelaide today....I‘m settled in for a few hours of reading and soul searching.

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Darklunarose
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I can not say how much I am loving this book.

Freespirit A very important read💕 4y
Darklunarose @Freespirit a very important read. He backs himself us so well with primary evidence from people there at the time. It makes sense there would be some kind of agriculture, building etc, there was with most cultures around the world. But the less advanced the white peoples made them look the less flack for taking over. This book was recommended to me by an indigenous person along with two others. We were never taught this stuff in schools. 4y
Freespirit Exactly @Darklunarose I knew none of this side of our history. This book needs to be studied and discussed in schools 4y
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Darklunarose @Freespirit it does, and I believe there are resources for dark emu for kids and schools. I homeschooled my kids, we spent ages focusing on our indigenous people and none of this was found. My middle is 18 now and he is reading “how to be an anti racist” so when he is done we will swap books. This family is big on learning the truth. 4y
Freespirit Great job👍🏼I have also brought up my three sons with emphasis on equality and fairness.. they are 21-26 now and I‘m hoping our young Aussies will push for climate action and social supports that we badly need💕 4y
Darklunarose @Freespirit I‘m hoping so too. Climate change is another big issue for us. I want my kids and grandkids (or grand cats) to have a future 4y
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Darklunarose
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New book! Looking forward to learning more about our indigenous heritage.

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Milly_Bagle
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Important reading for all Australians. To balance out the lack of education on our Aboriginal history in schools and general day to day life. Fascinating.

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Freespirit
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I'm lucky to live on this farm in the centre of the photo which sits on Birpai lands. Dark Emu tells a story of Aboriginal culture. I can't believe I grew up not knowing details of Aboriginal agriculture, land practises, house building and social structure. We need a retelling of the truth and acknowledgement of their story for future generations. #australianhistory Highly recommended.

TrishB That looks beautiful ♥️ 4y
Freespirit Thanks Trish @TrishB It was taken during the drought and you can see some patches of bush that were damaged by the fires. It's lovely and green now👍🏻💚 4y
BookwormM Wow great place to live 4y
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Freespirit Hi @BookwormM it is beautiful..a river valley surrounded by bushy hills👍🏼 4y
CarolynM Lovely photo. I completely agree with you about the feeling of disbelief in regard to the outright lies we were taught about aboriginal culture😶😡 4y
Freespirit @CarolynM I only hope the truth is being taught now. Happy Mother‘s Day 😘😘 4y
Rissreads This book is such an important read for all Australians ❤️💛🖤 4y
Freespirit Totally agree @Rissreads 👍🏼😊 4y
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MrsMalaprop
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Day 6 #7books7days

Books that made a deep impression on me.

If you‘ve not had a go at this challenge and would like to please do 🤗📚❤️.

Rissreads That makes 3 of us now who have picked this book! 😊❤️💛🖤 4y
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CarolynM
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#7Books7Days Day7

Books that left a deep impression on me

Would you like to join in @thegreensofa ?

This was an interesting exercise. Thanks again for the original tag Linda😘

Rissreads I almost forgot, thanks for the reminder...... 4y
GlassAsDiamonds Ohh.... also “Books on my shelf I haven‘t quite been game to open/ read”.... (Just scrolled past someone posting No Friend but the Mountain for this challenge who got the same comment .... there is a theme to both my purchases when home in Feb and my avoidance of the same 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️). 4y
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It‘s very hard to photograph a black dog!

#7books7days Day 1

Books that made a deep impression on me.

This book should be required reading by all Australians. 💛❤️🖤
#Oznonfiction

LeeRHarry I agree, reading this in June for bookgroup. (edited) 4y
Rissreads @LeeRHarry I hope you love it as much as I did. (edited) 4y
Freespirit I agree! 4y
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Lcsmcat 🐶 is so cute ! 4y
Crazeedi Hello my friend! I hope all is well with you❤❤ 4y
wordslinger42 I know this struggle 😅 4y
MrsMalaprop This is one of my choices too 🙌. 4y
Rissreads @MrsMalaprop I thought it might be! 😊 4y
Rissreads @Crazeedi yes I‘m fine. I‘m on school holidays for 2 weeks. Hopefully I will get a bit more reading done and I‘ve been dancing by myself everyday to help lift my spirits. I‘m also doing a jigsaw and I have a lot of odd jobs to do. How are you holding up in these strange times? 4y
CarolynM Just posted this as the last of my 7🙂 4y
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MariettaSG
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Thank you to the Boonurung and Wiradjuri people on whose land I now live, work and play and thanks to the muwinina people on whose land I spent many years growing up. 🙏
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Should be read by all Australians

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Rolls sprouted the virtues of Astraleba lappacea (Curly Mitchell grass). ... Panicum decompositum (Mitchell's native millet) and Themeda Avanacea (native oatgrass) and ... native rices...I bet a stall in any city market could sell flours from these grains at premium prices to whole food enthusiasts... We seem to be stuck on wattle seed and lemon myrtle, but supply a few good cooks .. and watch as ...develops a genuine Australian cuisine.

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What would happen if we turned away from total reliance on sheep and cattle and diversified into emu and kangaroo?... The utilisation of those animals that are already adapted to our climate and geography, and that damage it less as a result, should become the subject of serious ecological and economic debate in Australia.

Curiouser_and_curiouser A very important point! 3y
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MariettaSG
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Today, on this day of mourning, invasion and survival, I acknowledge the Traditional Custodians on whose land I stand and pay my respects to the Elders past, present, and future. I stand in solidarity for truth and justice and to #ChangeTheHeart of Australia.

MrsMalaprop Whereabouts in Australia are you? I went to an incredible One Day in Fremantle event on Saturday that I now plan to attend every year until we #changethedate #alwayswasalwayswillbe 4y
MariettaSG @MrsMalaprop Melbourne, Hobart for almost 40 years, haven't gone to any rallies this year but fully support #Changethedate 4y
Curiouser_and_curiouser I'm in Melbourne too @MariettaSG 😊 3y
MariettaSG @Curiouser_and_curiouser 👋 hi, nice to meet you!!! 3y
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Abailliekaras
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Richly informative. Pascoe makes the case for a new Australian history. Aboriginal Australians managed land, grew & stored grains, built houses & engineered fishing systems. White settlers (& so history books) portrayed them as mere Hunter-gatherers. Pascoe shows how this was wrong & gives reasons why (& thus our twisted narrative & problems w reconciliation). We can learn much from Aboriginal ways of managing land & eating sustainably.

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Abailliekaras
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Almost finished this one - it‘s eye-opening. Recommended.

BarbaraBB Looking forward to your review 4y
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LapReader
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Thankyou for spoiling me @Rissreads Very keen to read this and then pass it on to some people I know who I think should read it. I love the detail on the mug. Emus or ‘wobbly bottoms‘ as we call them in my family are currently my nephew Ted‘s favourite things so I hope he doesn‘t see my bookmarks xo

LeeRHarry I picked this up the other day as will be reading it for book group next year, think it will create a lot of good discussion! 😊 4y
Rissreads I'm glad you liked it! We have had 2 swaps in 2 years 🤣 4y
Rissreads @LeeRHarry it was was one of my favourite books in 2018. 🧡 4y
CarolynM Such an important book. It led to some excellent discussion at my book group @LeeRHarry 4y
LeeRHarry @CarolynM that‘s good to know, essential reading for every Australian. 4y
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My latest book buys to add to the growing pile 🤣Some Litsy inspired books and a much recommended Australian non-fiction book- Dark Emu which is a must read I think. Happy Sunday reading😊📚

AlaMich I ❤️❤️❤️ The Bees! 5y
JennyM Fantastic haul! 📚 5y
Freespirit Hi @AlaMich it was recommended to me by a good friend. 5y
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Freespirit Thanks @JennyM it should keep me happy for a while 😊 5y
BooknerdsLife Great haul! I‘m looking forward to read Dark Emu too! The Bees was a fun read for me 🐝 Hope you‘ll enjoy it too😊 5y
BooknerdsLife @AlaMich Same!!! 😍🐝 5y
Freespirit I am looking forward to Dark Emu too @BooknerdsLife . We shall compare reviews! 5y
BooknerdsLife @Freespirit Would love to 🙌🏼💖 Im still waiting for my library reserve to come through ... 😔 ATM the earliest available date will be in Sept!!!! 😥 hope you enjoy your books. 🤗 5y
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CarolynM
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This is a really important book. At the start I was thinking, a bit guiltily "This is all very worthy but I'm not really interested in anyone's farming practices" but it got steadily more interesting as it investigated the evidence of aboriginal civilisation that debunks the myth of them as primitive hunter-gathers and exposes the European assumption of entitlement to everything. It's not very well written, dry prose and unnecessarily repetitive?

CarolynM But the information it contains should be known by all Australians. We can't change the past, but we can acknowledge the truth about it and hopefully change our attitudes going forward. 5y
BarbaraBB Beautiful review. 5y
TrishB Sounds like an important read. 5y
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Freespirit I bought this yesterday for my hubby to read. It was recommended to me by a friend. Sounds like something we should all read 📚🇦🇺 5y
rockpools I so want to read this - sounds like I need to be in the mood to ‘tackle‘ a harder read though. Thanks for the heads up! 5y
BookwormDownUnder Everyone is reading this! I keep getting asked if the library has it. Lots of reserves! 5y
CarolynM @BarbaraBB Thank you. 5y
CarolynM @Freespirit I handed it over to my husband when I finished with it. I agree we all should read it and I'm glad that it is in demand @ReadingDownUnder 5y
CarolynM @RachelO It's actually not difficult to read, but it's terribly earnest and a bit clumsy and goes into more detail about Aboriginal farming practices than I thought was necessary 😉 5y
rockpools @CarolynM In that case... 😉. I admit to having gone through a bit of a landscape archaeology spell. You can throw a fair few early European/South American farming practices at me before I get twitchy, so maybe I‘ll be ok with this one. And, (massive surprise, because they‘re great at European fiction, but less good at everything else) my library has a copy!🎉🌾 5y
CarolynM @RachelO I'll be very interested in your thoughts when you've read it. 5y
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There is a lot of thought-provoking material in this book. These two passages are among the stand-outs for me.

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Abailliekaras
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My ‘Booktube at the Gym‘ video is up - this tag is as fun as it sounds. Thank you @shawnmooney ! I discuss these books and more.
https://youtu.be/umsmYZogrAA

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Rissreads
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This book has made me feel anger that we have been fed a huge lie and shame that we continue to ignore that lie and do nothing about it! I am also sad to think that our inactivity is resulting in all the wonders , artefacts and archaeological information of the Aborininal people and their past will be lost forever. That the knowledge and truth of this land at that time and their people doesn‘t matter to us. 😩😡💩

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Luz
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It reads like a scientific journal but has so much feeling trapped in all the facts. Very insightful and heartbreaking

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Dark Emu is extraordinarily interesting; while I knew that the agricultural systems of the First Nations Peoples were far more sophisticated than most Australians have been taught to believe, I was really clueless as to the true extent of the agri- and aqua- cultural management of Australia before European invasion. Pascoe demonstrates how those practices were woven into the spiritual and political life and helped to ensure a peaceful society.

Abailliekaras Sounds like a must-Read. How is it on audio? 6y
Fernoppy @Abailliekaras it was read by the author and I enjoyed hearing it in his own tone. The only advantage of the hard copy may be that he referenced some really interesting sounding reads. 6y
Abailliekaras Hmm I‘ll check it out! 6y
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MrsMalaprop
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“The belief that Aboriginal people were ‘mere‘ hunter gatherers has been used as a political tool to justify dispossession.”

Holy moly. Why have I waited until now to read this? I feel a bit like I did when I first read Why Weren‘t We Told by Henry Reynolds many years ago.

Check out this recent Ted Talk if you‘re interested:
https://tedxsydney.com/talk/a-real-history-of-aboriginal-australians-the-first-a...

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9000 year old stone houses? Grain storage by the ton? Villages of dome-style cladded homes with food storage rooms and pens for animals? Fish traps? Terraced agriculture?

Australian Aborigines as primitive hunter gatherers? We appear to have been sold a lemon people. 😡
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tournevis They arrived on Australia as early as 40,000 years ago. Which is 10x longuer than most Whites thought until about 15y ago. 6y
MrsMalaprop @tournevis I‘ve read 60,000 years. Have you read Dark Emu? I‘m astonished to learn about the complexity & ingenuity. It served white settlers to depict Aboriginal people as savages. 6y
tournevis @MrsMalaprop I've read scientific articles. 6y
Hooked_on_books Sounds really interesting 6y
CarolynM It's seriously disturbing how many of the things I was told as a child about the world are simply not true. Here's another example. I can believe that the original white colonists were too ignorant and blinkered to understand what the aboriginal people were doing but the complacency that's kept us believing it for so long is damning. 6y
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Aboriginal Australians the world‘s first bakers?!
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Mind being blown by this non fiction read.

When we were recently in Arnhem Land our tour guide showed us a deep groove in a horizontal rock face near some ancient rock art. He said that people had previously thought it was an ink well, but that it was more likely worn down over many years to grind grain for bread making. Wow. Just wow.
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LeeRHarry I‘m going to see the Bangarra Dance Company perform Dark Emu tomorrow night and I‘m beyond excited!!! 😆 (edited) 6y
Jeg Wow.😮 6y
MrsMalaprop Oh how exciting @LeeRHarry 👏. 6y
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MrsMalaprop
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#Nextup A bit of fact and a bit of fiction. Happy Friday night Littens 📚🍷👏.

Cathythoughts Looks the perfect Friday night 👍🏻 6y
Rissreads The Ruin was our last bookclub book. 6y
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MrsMalaprop
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#Bookhaul #Bookmail 📚👏🤓.
Feed is a #blameitonlitsy purchase for my husband. I‘m always on the lookout for new dystopian fiction for him.
Room On Our Rock is a #blameiton @Jeg 😂. Bought it for my niece‘s birthday.
Bastard Out Of Carolina was recommended recently by a good friend.

I am very excited to get my hands on the tagged book, a seminal rewriting of history that challenges the hunter gatherer view of Australian Aborigines 👊❤️💛🖤.

Rissreads Great, now I have another book to add to my tbr list. I love dystopian fiction too!!!! 6y
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Gillyreads
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I learnt so much from reading this book. It's hard to describe how important I think it is so I'm sharing this review quote.

Marchpane Should be read by every Australian. 7y
Gillyreads @Marchpane absolutely 7y
Sue What @Marchane said. It would be wonderful if it was on the school curriculum. 7y
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If the test of sophistication were whether or not all were fed regardless of rank or whether all contributed to the spiritual and cultural health of the civilisation, Aboriginal Australia might have a much higher rank that some of the nations considered the hallmark of human evolution

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Gillyreads
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History we didn't learn in school

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Not even 100 pages into this book and it's shattered my understanding of our first peoples. This is not what I was taught in school. This should be compulsory reading for all Australians.

Marchpane Incredible, isn't it? I wanted to shove a copy into the hands of everyone I know saying 'read this!' 7y
Sue @Marchpane That's exactly where I'm at! 7y
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Some non-fiction for #booktober - I'm only one chapter in, but I already want to push a copy of Dark Emu on everyone I know. It's short but packed with fascinating info and insight.

Pascoe peels away the bias in his primary sources (journals of early settlers and explorers) to topple cultural stereotypes about pre-contact indigenous Australians.

We need diverse scholars & historians. This book is one example of why. #diversereads

Marchpane The publisher's blurb makes it sound like this book is just about food production, and that is the focus, but there other topics touched upon as well, like housing, cultural traditions, systems of government etc 8y
becausetrains @Marchpane this is cool. I know some about Native Americans on the eve of English (French, Spanish, Dutch, etc.) colonization of North America, but only a bit about indigenous Australian peoples prior to Britain. I also know little to nothing about their current state - do you have any recommendations by Australian authors of native heritage? 8y
Marchpane @becausetrains I need to read more in this area myself. Maybe some other Aussies can help us? I'll post a few suggestions, starting with this beautiful little verse novel: 8y
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BookishFeminist This sounds amazing 8y
Marchpane I saw a Litsy post about this one the other day, it's queer YA and looks interesting: 8y
Marchpane @becausetrains Those 👆are all fiction but I found an incredible list which has fiction, non-fiction, kids books, etc: http://www.readingupsidedown.com/2014/01/anitas-black-book-challenge-1-and-2/ 8y
Marchpane @BookishFeminist it really is, and totally gives the lie to the idea that Aboriginal peoples were nomadic foragers. 8y
Sue @marchpane This book sounds amazing AND a list of recommended reading by Anita Heiss? I'm totally stoked! I've heard good things about this book (mentioned in Our Country) - it's sitting on my kindle waiting for me 8y
Marchpane @sue oh yes, Pascoe cites that one too and I have it downloaded and ready to go. And Anita Heiss's latest! 8y
Sue @marchpane How good does her latest look? I'm saving it for 2017 - it will be my Australian read for my reading around the world challenge next year :) 8y
Marchpane @sue I used to do all Australian authors for the month of January, thinking of reviving that tradition in 2017 so I'll have to make an Aussie TBR. I'm so impressed by your 'round the world challenge!! 8y
Sue An Aussie TBR is a great idea! It's a shame there's no function here or on Goodreads to have multiple people contributing to a TBR. That would be cool. And thank you! 8y
Sue Btw I totally need to read Mullumbimby - it's one of my favourite little towns. I'm heading out there in a couple of weeks :) 8y
Marchpane @sue I've never been there, although I've been to Byron many times. Might need to organise a road trip! 8y
Sue Road Trip!! I've decided I'm going to put a page on my blog to list a bunch of Indigenous titles - which I will endeavour to flesh out to include Maori, Native American etc. And I'm astonished - my local library actually has Dark Emu. 8y
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