Adventure of Wisteria Lodge

Adventure of Wisteria Lodge | Arthur Conan Doyle

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CatLass007 I was surprised. Maybe this is Conan Doyle, passing the torch from himself to other mystery writers, not so much from Holmes to Baynes. Just a wild thought. 3w

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Librarybelle It is a bit surprising, and I think Holmes himself is a bit surprised that he met an inspector “who will go far.” Honestly, it made a nice change that someone could keep up with Sherlock Holmes. Perhaps a show that there will be others as brilliant as Holmes to carry on crime solving when Holmes no longer works cases? 3w

CogsOfEncouragement I thought this was a fun detail. I know I kept wondering if he was actually going to blunder something. It was an added twist to keep this short story from being too similar to others. Especially having SH in the shrubs and Baynes up higher in a tree observing SH undetected, that was very different. Holmes being a good sport about it was also a nice touch. 3w

dabbe @CatLass007 Agree 💯. 3w

dabbe @Librarybelle 🎯! 3w

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement It was nice to see Holmes's arrogance in check in this one; he heartily congratulated Baynes and welcomed him to the detective fold. 3w

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Adventure of Wisteria Lodge | Arthur Conan Doyle

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CatLass007 I suppose it was a social norm. That doesn‘t make it right, especially in these times when casual racism is accepted and virulent racism is coming out of the woodwork. We need to be able to point to this and say, “This is unacceptable in the here and now.” Was Conan Doyle ever married? Because Holmes comes off as misogynistic and I wonder why. 3w

Cuilin @CatLass007 Yes, he was married. His first wife died of TB and he married his second wife a year later. 3w

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CatLass007 Hmmm. 3w

Librarybelle I‘d say social norms. As much as I love classics, it‘s important to acknowledge that the works may contain language and societal attitudes deemed today (or that should be deemed today) as highly inappropriate and incorrect. 3w

CogsOfEncouragement SH states at one point that Scott Eccles was chosen to be the guest the night of these events because he was the type of person the police would absolutely believe. He was there for a perfect alibi - the whole thing about 1am. I feel this highlights the issues of the time. SH discusses how it was so true, Eccles tells a wild story and is believed immediately. Eccles was reaping benefits of this privilege and Doyle pointed it out more than once. 3w

Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement yes!!! he didn‘t just highlight the prejudice he acknowledged privilege!!! 3w

dabbe @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement And the on-the-scene detectives didn't question him further; they just believe him because of who he was. 🤔 Wonder if that type of pandering still occurs today. 🙄 3w

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Librarybelle Overall, I liked this one. I‘d like to know the significance of that gruesome bird, unless I missed Holmes explaining it in the narrative. 3w

CogsOfEncouragement I enjoyed this one. I read this collection about twelve years ago. I didn't remember this one at all and had all sorts of incorrect guesses.

@Librarybelle At the very end, Holmes explains he spent time reading up at the British Museum. SH went on to explain it was a voodoo ritual, and “a true voodoo-worshiper attempts nothing of importance without certain sacrifices...“ 3w

Librarybelle Thanks, @CogsOfEncouragement ! I thought he meant the other figure that was found, so I missed the connection! 3w

dabbe This one was not one of my faves. The resolution part seemed beyond-over-the-top and too quickly explained. 3w

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The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge | Arthur Conan Doyle

repost for @dabbe:

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Now, on to the second-to-last set of stories: HIS LAST BOW. The discussion for “The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge“ will be next Saturday, 3/1, and will be led by @Cuilin. We've almost read the ENTIRE canon! 🤩🤩🤩

Link to analysis (spoiler alerts): https://shorturl.at/VhKV8

dabbe Thank you! 🤩 4w

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dabbe

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Hello, Sherlockians! Great discussion so far today re: THE VALLEY OF FEAR. Hope to read more of your thoughts soon!

Now, on to the second-to-last set of stories: HIS LAST BOW. The discussion for “The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge“ will be next Saturday, 3/1, and will be led by @Cuilin. We've almost read the ENTIRE canon! 🤩🤩🤩

Link to analysis (spoiler alerts): https://shorturl.at/VhKV8

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CogsOfEncouragement Thank you for the post. My copy has The Cardboard Box as the first short story. I would have read the wrong one. As always, thanks for hosting this enjoyable buddy read. 1mo

Librarybelle Thank you! 1mo

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement “The Cardboard Box“ has been in different places in the canon. I think it depends on UK vs. USA editions, too. I believe we're going in the American order. YW! 🤩 1mo

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dabbe @Librarybelle YW! 🤩 1mo

CatLass007 @dabbe Is part 2 of Wisteria Lodge The Tiger of San Pedro? Is The Cardboard Box known by another name? Because the collection I have, The Definitive Audio Collection, does not include a story by that name. 3w

dabbe @CatLass007 “TAo Wisteria Lodge“ is a 2-part length story, the 1st part being “The Singular Experience of Mr. John Scott Eccles“ and the 2nd part being “The Tiger of San Pedro.“TAo the Cardboard Box“ was originally published in Great Britain as the 2nd of 12 stories in THE MEMOIRS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, but it was published in the USA as the 2nd of 8 stories in HIS LAST BOW. The title of the story is the same. Does that help? 3w

CatLass007 I figured out the part about Wisteria Lodge. But the stories in The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes in my collection aren‘t in the same order as on the chart from June of last year and Cardboard Box isn‘t in the table of contents. I think I need to have a few words with Stephen Fry. 3w

CatLass007 Nope. Wait. I found it. I had to back way up. 3w

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