TheResidentPatient

The Adventure of the Resident Patient: Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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IndoorDame The 5am thing was especially bizarre 🙄🤔 6mo

dabbe @IndoorDame I know this is fiction, but I thought the same thing! And I wanted to ask him, “Where did you get that so-called fact?“ If only we could talk to the characters! 😂 6mo

IndoorDame @dabbe I know!!! I would be yelling my head off at all my books if the characters could could actually hear me 😂😂😂 6mo

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dabbe @IndoorDame #amensista! 🤩🤩🤩 6mo

Read4life The 5am thing was mine. I actually stopped reading and sat there for a few minutes. Really? 6mo

dabbe @Read4life I did, too! 🤩😂🤗 6mo

Bookwomble You'd be surprised at the things some British police officers are prepared to overlook in the cause of improving case completion rates 🫠 6mo

Librarybelle The 5am thing for sure! 6mo

CogsOfEncouragement Honestly, I figured they had friends in low places who would have kept tabs on him

I don't watch hardly any real crime shows - but my husband and I just watched three. Two recent cases, one in the 1980s and yeah, I believe an investigator would absolutely act like Lanner. Sad but true. 6mo

Cuilin @Librarybelle @IndoorDame @read4life so the 5 AM thing led me down dark rabbit hole. I always thought more suicides would occur during the dark winter/holidays but I was wrong and more occur during the spring on Mondays and Tuesdays. I doubt they kept records of this during Victorian times. (edited) 6mo

Librarybelle @Cuilin That‘s sad but interesting. I would have thought the dark winter and holidays as well. 6mo

Aimeesue I usually just blaze right on by the odd things Victorian police officers think/say, tbh. Criminal investigation as a science was new and pretty iffy at that point. 6mo

dabbe @Bookwomble Possible coercion within a police force? And only British? Shocking! 😱😂😊 6mo

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement It seems to be only our head detective/main character/hero is the one who truly gets to the bottom of things in any of these stories. 6mo

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Resident Patient: Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Thoughts, Sherlockians?

CatLass007 I listened to this story yesterday and I don‘t remember any of that quote. I guess the story didn‘t really hold my interest. 6mo

IndoorDame When I read it I assumed it was just prejudicial, the way Doyle describes the appearance of his BIPOC characters or others he has a bias against, but afterwards I wondered if it was deliberately unkind, as a kind of foreshadowing to offer us a clue towards solving the mystery. 6mo

dabbe @CatLass007 Probably not one of Doyle's best. I had a hard time coming up with some questions on this one. 6mo

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dabbe @IndoorDame I thought Watson showed prejudice here (which may also mean Doyle), especially since he's a doctor. Shouldn't he be a bit more caring towards individuals with problems? Or is Doyle saying that people who are overweight should be able to control it, meaning it's a choice and not a condition. 🤔 (edited) 6mo

IndoorDame @dabbe lots of people today (even doctors) still think it‘s a choice, so I assumed that was the prevailing idea at the time 6mo

dabbe @IndoorDame Yeah, that's unfortunately true--even though there could be so many other legitimate and heart-wrenching reasons. 6mo

Read4life I definitely didn‘t get the feeling he was speaking strictly from a medical perspective. 6mo

dabbe @Read4life I wonder if Watson once had a weight problem and now has zero tolerance for it. 6mo

Read4life I don‘t know. It was definitely not his usual understanding. I‘ve lost over 100 pounds and I believe I‘m more understanding of weight “issues” of others. 6mo

dabbe @Read4life The reason I wrote that is I know someone who lost a lot of weight and now has little tolerance for her daughter who is overweight. It's hard to hear her be so hard on her kid. Maybe it depends on the person. I've lost 50 pounds, and I also am in sympathy with anyone who struggles with their weight (or anything) for any reason. 6mo

Bookwomble @IndoorDame In my therapeutic work with clients referred to bariatric services, I've been shocked more than once by the awfully insulting language used and fatphobic attitudes displayed by some medical professionals in those services. Sadly, Watson's prejudice is not, as it should be, a thing of the past. 6mo

Librarybelle I agree with everyone here…sadly, a sign of prejudice that is prevalent today. 6mo

CogsOfEncouragement I took it to describe quite a gruesome scene. 6mo

Cuilin @dabbe I think I would‘ve struggled with questions for this one too. 6mo

dabbe @Bookwomble #truth 6mo

dabbe @Librarybelle Look at how people are being shamed for taking Ozempic. It's not even enough now that people lose weight--they need to lose it the hard way--like everyone else who lost weight before Ozempic. Why such shaming? 6mo

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement And boy was it ever! One of the most gruesome yet in all that we've read. 6mo

Librarybelle @dabbe I know! So awful 6mo

dabbe @Cuilin I did a lot of this: 🤔🤷‍♀️🤔 6mo

Read4life @dabbe I know people like that, too. So sad. I hate when she says “if I can do it anyone can.” Not true. I also hate when she says people who‘ve had bariatric surgery have taken the easy way out. That road before and after surgery is not easy. 6mo

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Resident Patient: Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

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Thoughts, Sherlockians?

IndoorDame I don‘t know to what extent he‘s morally culpable, but I think it‘s bizarre that he‘s intrigued enough to travel all the way there but not intrigued enough to even use any of his basic tricks of observation to learn more about the man when he thinks he‘s being lied to. That seems out of character. 6mo

dabbe @IndoorDame That's why this one jolted my attention. Or was this yet a new trick of Holmes's? He does say to Watson that he expects Blessington to capitulate the next day. But he knows the guy's in danger, right? It seems to me like Holmes is playing God in a way. 6mo

CogsOfEncouragement I thought he just figured if “Blessington“ wanted help he should spill the beans, otherwise, “Good day sir“. This actually seemed reasonable to me. I think this crook only has himself to blame, including not telling SH. I didn't think of SH being to blame for his murder. 6mo

Librarybelle My thought too, @CogsOfEncouragement . I didn‘t think anything of the interaction. It is a little out of character in a way for Holmes, but Holmes knows there is something that Blessington is hiding, which we find out he in fact is. 6mo

dabbe @Librarybelle @CogsOfEncouragement I definitely don't think Holmes is responsible for Blessington's murder, but I do think he bears a little blame for what happened. In “The Boscombe Valley Mystery“, Holmes explains what he knows so far about the crime to John Turner, and only after that does Turner confess. Why doesn't he afford the same courtesy to Blessington to get him to confess? I saw it as out-of-character for SH. 6mo

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Sorry I'm a little late, Sherlockians! Thoughts?

CatLass007 Meh. All the relevant clues were found offstage. I think the reader should know what the sleuth knows so we can figure out the mystery along with the protagonist. Conan Doyle doesn‘t seem to have held that belief. 6mo

dabbe @CatLass007 Agree 💯. Doyle also reuses similar plots: like the guy with the checkered past that comes back to literally kill him. 6mo

IndoorDame I think it‘s funny he basically opens the story by admitting he‘s been slacking in his writing lately. But that could just as easily be a way to try and write himself out of this series with the public, or try and write himself back into it (either in public perception or by attempting to actually spark his own interest again). I don‘t have a theory which one it is here… 6mo

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dabbe @IndoorDame Well, we are only 3 stories away from “The Final Problem.“ I definitely see some ennui in Doyle's/Watson's writing. 6mo

Read4life I agree @CatLass007 . It makes me feel like I missed something and then realize it was never there to miss. 6mo

CogsOfEncouragement As always, I enjoyed it.

I was amused to invision: “He picked up four ends and examined them with his pocket-lens.“

I thought Blessington sounded like a SUPER made up name - and turns out it was! 6mo

Librarybelle I felt the same way, @CatLass007 @Read4life . And @IndoorDame —completely agree! As @dabbe noted, we‘re close to “The Final Problem.” 6mo

kelli7990 I liked this story. 6mo

Cuilin It seems indecent to say that this story was rather mundane, as it‘s quite good but compared to all the others it‘s a tad forgettable. 6mo

Aimeesue I didn‘t love it, but I didn‘t hate it either. I think if I‘d read it on its own instead of in a collection, I‘d be fine with it. 6mo

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement A totally ironic name! #notblessedatall 6mo

dabbe @Read4life #ditto 6mo

dabbe @Librarybelle Da big one! 🤩 6mo

dabbe @kelli7990 Yay! 😊 6mo

dabbe @Cuilin @Aimeesue I bet we'd all rank it about in the middle of all of the stories. Enjoyable but kinda meh. 6mo

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