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The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

Repost for @dabbe @Cuilin

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes

Sherlockians~
Fun discussion yesterday! And now only 12 stories to go! 🤩
Next up: Our last anthology of stories: THE CASE-BOOK OF SHERLOCK HOLMES Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 5/3.

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dabbe TY! 😍 2h

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mcctrish

Sherlock's Home: The Empty House | Sherlock Holmes Fans, Steve Emecz

For all the Sherlock fans here ( it opens to reveal scenes from stories) I hope this is a whole new category of Lego ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Deblovestoread 👀👀👀 5h

mcctrish @Deblovestoread I have a list of books a mile long for them 5h

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dabbe

The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Sherlockians~
Fun discussion yesterday! And now only 12 stories to go! 🤩
Next up: Our last anthology of stories: THE CASE-BOOK OF SHERLOCK HOLMES Discussion will be this coming Saturday, 5/3, and will be led by @Cuilin. ⬇️

Link to summary/analysis (spoiler alert): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AUp2hbd5B-czF0Byzp9GjDnHvUgKHQDC/view?usp=shari...

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dabbe Note: We will be following the stories the way they were presented in the original anthological publication, not necessarily by publication date of each individual story. Some of these are also (technically) not in the public domain yet, but I have found a link where you can read all of the stories online for free:
https://ignisart.com/camdenhouse/canon/9-case.htm

We've almost read the ENTIRE canon! 🤩 1d

Librarybelle Thank you! 1d

dabbe @Librarybelle YW! I have yet to finish BROWN SUIT, so I'll be jumping in a wee late on today's questions. 💙🩵💙 1d

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Librarybelle Totally fine!! 17h

Cuilin 👍💛 15h

dabbe @Cuilin 😍 11h

Cuilin I just realized Stephen Fry didn‘t record this collection 😔 11h

dabbe @Cuilin Probably because when he recorded the others, most of these weren't in the public domain yet? #bummer 🫩 10h

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CogsOfEncouragement

His Last Bow | Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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I enjoyed rereading this collection of short stories with #NoPlaceLikeHolmes

@dabbe and @Cuilin always host worthwhile discussions and I appreciate them so much.

dabbe You have no idea how much this means to me. TY, m'dear! You have greatlly enlightened me during our discussions, and I have learned tons from you. 🩵💙🩵 2d

CogsOfEncouragement @dabbe Very kind of you to say that. 💟 2d

Cuilin Thank you, I look forward every week to our discussions. Like Denise said I also appreciate your wonderful contributions. 🩷 1d

CogsOfEncouragement @Cuilin 💟 1d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

#weeklyfavorites

The second-to-last collections of Holmes stories to round out the month. Thanks for hosting this, @Read4Life! 😍

Read4life You‘re welcome. Right back at you (& @Cuilin ) for hosting #NoPlaceLikeHolmes 😉 2d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

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A mixed but intriguing collection that showcases both the enduring appeal of Sherlock Holmes and the ways in which Doyle adapted the character to a changing world. While not every story reaches the heights of THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES or THE MEMOIRS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, the collection remains essential for Holmes enthusiasts, particularly for its historical significance and the rare glimpse of an older, more world-weary detective.

Bookwomble Ooh! Is that your edition, or a stock photo? Either way, it's a great picture. I have a couple of Doyles in the John Murray edition, but not any of the Holmes books. 2d

dabbe @Bookwomble I wish it was! It's the original edition published in 1917, and I believe the publisher was John Murray. 🤩 1d

Bookwomble @dabbe The Murray editions I have are in the same style dust jackets, but not first editions. As you say, I wish 😄 1d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#hislastbow

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle I had to look up when this first published, as it seemed to foreshadow WWII and the horrors that came with it. It‘s too early for that, though there is dissent in Russia at this time, which we know eventually leads to the deaths of the royal family in 1918. Perhaps Conan Doyle saw the current Russian turmoil as an issue that would result in worldwide issues (it does). 3d

Cuilin I did not care for “A cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared”- ugh it‘s giving “the end justifies the means” and maga. Yuck!! 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement
I agree that there was a bit too much nationalism at the end by Holmes. His statement kind of reinforces the British Empire idea, and UGH indeed! ⬇️

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dabbe @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement
A couple parts, though, did make me a bit 🥹. First, when Holmes tells Watson “Stand with me here upon the terrace, for it may be the last quiet talk that we shall ever have.” EVER have? Why? And for being his trusty Boswell, Holmes states “Good old Watson! You are the one fixed point in a changing age.“

What a testament to their enduring friendship. (edited) 2d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#hislastbow

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle This was first published in 1917, so about a year away from WWI‘s end. I see it as a propaganda tool to show that the allies are better than the Germans, more cunning and quick witted. By this point, the Americans have joined the fight, and with the extra manpower, there‘s a turn in who‘s “winning” the war. It‘s like a taunt—you think you‘re so good, but you‘ll never beat us. 3d

eeclayton At first I wanted to say that he just couldn't help himself. But actually, there are several stories which show that he doesn't much care about who takes credit as long as he can figure out the mystery. So I'm unsure why it's important to him here that his identity be known. 3d

Cuilin I agree that this is more likely to be a propaganda tool as no card carrying spy writer, would give away the identity of the hero to the enemy at the end. This was published in 1917 around the time when the public were losing faith and feeling angry about the war, “lions led by donkeys”. 3d

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CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin I appreciate your thoughts, and enjoy this BR so much. I have nothing to add. 2d

dabbe @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement The story was published near the end of WWI, but it takes place on the eve of the start of the war. To me, Holmes seems quite a bit foolish to throw his name out there on the brink of the impending war. He put himself and possible others (like his bro Mycroft) in serious danger by doing that. ⬇️ (edited) 2d

dabbe On the other hand, maybe this brash move of bravado was just what the Brits needed at the end of the war when they would be the most tired and losing faith--like what Cuilin said. And I think you're right, @Librarybelle about it being a propaganda tool, but also I think Holmes couldn't help himself, @eeclayton, like you said. It's his first mission as a spy, and he's been out of the detective loop for a while. Perhaps some pride got in his way. (edited) 2d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#hislastbow

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle I‘d say it‘s not Watson, but other than Conan Doyle himself, I‘m not sure of anyone else from the canon who would write this. 3d

Cuilin If it is Watson, he‘s trying to distance himself, it sounds more like Sherlock‘s tone. This is really where I want know your opinion Denise. Perhaps it‘s Mycroft. He is an intelligence analyst for the British government. 🤨 3d

dabbe @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement You nailed it, Cuilin! I thought the only other person it could be would be Mycroft for the reason you stated. It could be Sherlock, too, but I can't see him stepping back and observing; I think he'd be wanting to tell his own tale in 1st person. But here's a kicker: NONE of them were present when von Bork and von Herling were speaking at the beginning. ⬇️ (edited) 2d

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dabbe @Librarybelle @eeclayton @Cuilin @CogsOfEncouragement
How would they know the exact conversation and what took place? I just can't see von Bork telling all the details with explicit dialogue to any of them. So, whoever narrated it perhaps imagined and filled in the missing dialogue based on whatever von Bork told the British intellligence. It's kind of fun playing the game as if they were real! 🤣 (edited) 2d

Read4life Mycroft was my thought. I like your points and comments, @dabbe 2d

dabbe @Read4life He made perfect sense given his profession, right? 2d

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dabbe

His Last Bow | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin
#hislastbow

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

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Librarybelle I think that‘s why it confused me, as it was not from Watson‘s perspective. It also doesn‘t seem like Watson wrote this, even with choosing the third-person voice. It just seemed like a tack on story to me that didn‘t fit the pattern. 3d

Cuilin If I am playing The Game, maybe a good question would be why would this story be included at all? Spies are not known for making their secrets public. So it also begs a further question of, was it leaked and by whom? Moriarty is mentioned in the narrative ….. 3d

CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle @Cuilin Yeah, I got nothin‘. 🤷‍♀️ 2d

dabbe @Librarybelle @Cuilin @eeclayton @CogsOfEncouragement ... it'll be interesting to see what we think when we read “The Mazarin Stone“ because that is also told from the 3rd-person POV. Playing the game, perhaps Watson was not so personal because he was not the spy--Holmes was. He only appears at the end to help nab the criminal. Because he was not present, maybe he felt more comfortable standing back as the observer only. (edited) 2d

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