noplacelikeholmes

The Adventure of Shoscombe Old Place | Arthur Conan Doyle

Repost for @dabbe

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last TWO stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo TShoscombe Old Place“. Discussion will be on August 2nd and will be led by @Cuilin. Hope your week goes well. 🩵

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dabbe TY! 😍 2d

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kelli7990

The Murder of Roger Ackroyd | Agatha Christie

I started this book yesterday after reading the short story for #noplacelikeholmes and Richard Armitage is narrating. I like when he narrates these stories. I like his voice. Richard‘s voice was keeping me company while I was coloring some pictures for 1 hour and then I decided to take a break for the rest of the day. I didn‘t read anything at all last night. I‘m looking forward to reading more of this book today.

#christiescapers

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kelli7990

The Complete Sherlock Holmes Short Stories - Unabridged - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, the Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes, the Return of Sherlock Ho | Arthur Conan Doyle

I finished reading the short story from last week. It was only 30 minutes. After I finished listening to it, I thought to myself,”That‘s it?” because normally, I‘m used to listening to the stories and having them take an hour to read. I like the 1 hour stories over the 30 minute stories because I feel like there‘s more to the 1 hour stories. The 30 minute stories get good and then they just end.

#noplacelikeholmes

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dabbe

The Adventure of Shoscombe Old Place | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @LitsyEvents

Interesting discussion on Saturday, Sherlockians. Can you believe we're down to our last TWO stories? 😱 Next up: “(TAo TShoscombe Old Place“. Discussion will be on August 2nd and will be led by @Cuilin. Hope your week goes well. 🩵

Link to summary and analysis (spoiler alert):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1YeGp2Wolm_jzceGZ7qlc2PurKkLZeG/view?usp=shari...

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kelli7990

The Complete Sherlock Holmes Short Stories - Unabridged - The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, the Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes, the Return of Sherlock Ho | Arthur Conan Doyle

I‘m behind on the #noplacelikeholmes and #christiescapers buddy reads again but I will catch up. I haven‘t read The Veiled Lodger yet. I couldn‘t participate in Saturday‘s discussion for it because I went out to lunch on Saturday with my family to celebrate our July birthdays. After I read The Adventure Of The Veiled Lodger then I‘ll start The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd but I‘m not going to be finished with it today.

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AnneCecilie

The Flower Farm | Rachael Lucas

#BookReport

I finished Mansfield Park #PemberLittens #JaneAustenThenAndNow and Under brosteinen, stranden!

I read TAo The Veiled Lodger #NoPlaceLikeHolmes

I continued with my yearlong reads on the right

I continued Little Dorrit #WhatTheDickens and to listen to The Flower Farm

I‘ve started The Whalebone Theatre

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @dabbe

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

Daisey, erzascarletbookgasm, CogsOfEncouragement, AnneCecilie, Born.A.Reader, Aimeesue, Larkken, Librarybelle, mom2bugnbee, Chrissyreadit, Read4life, StayCurious, CatLass007, Mollyanna, curiouserandcurioser, eeclayton, IndoorDame, kelli7990, TheAromaofBooks, 5feet.of.fury, Tineke, Fr3NcHtOaSt, Blackink_WhitePaper, RayHallucinogen, Pageturner1, PageShifter, AnnR, kimrenee, aroyse, CrystalE02

Leftcoastzen I am not in the group but seeing this post I want to re watch both films 6d

Librarybelle It seems that anything I have seen or read the couple always jump to a distract decision, usually murder. Sometimes the husband is cruel, sometimes not. They also never get away with it… 6d

dabbe @Leftcoastzen Same here! I adore noir, both in books and film! 🖤🎥🖤 5d

dabbe I probably gave too much away with the pictures I posted, but this story did remind me of these two movies, DOUBLE INDEMNITY and BODY HEAT. In the first one, the husband is an abusive jerk, but the woman is cunningly evil (Barbara Stanwyck at her best) in plotting to kill him with her lover (played by a surprisingly evil Fred MacMurry). BODY HEAT is an 80s noir redo of that film. Eugenia doesn't seem as evil, but, perhaps a bit? 5d

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @dabbe

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

Daisey, erzascarletbookgasm, CogsOfEncouragement, AnneCecilie, Born.A.Reader, Aimeesue, Larkken, Librarybelle, mom2bugnbee, Chrissyreadit, Read4life, StayCurious, CatLass007, Mollyanna, curiouserandcurioser, eeclayton, IndoorDame, kelli7990, TheAromaofBooks, 5feet.of.fury, Tineke, Fr3NcHtOaSt, Blackink_WhitePaper, RayHallucinogen, Pageturner1, PageShifter, AnnR, kimrenee, aroyse, CrystalE02

CogsOfEncouragement Good points. 6d

eeclayton Wasn't Mr Ronder the owner of the circus? Mrs R and Leonardo may have wanted to take over the business after his death and be better bosses? There was a comment about his being cruel towards the animals and hated by colleagues, and that business had been declining because of his behaviour. 6d

Librarybelle Leonardo did not sound like the best of characters either…perhaps he just wanted rid of Ronder. But, very good points, and you‘re right, the police would be less inclined to hunt down the couple due to their transient profession. 6d

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Cuilin Statistics support the fact that most women who are in an abusive relationship are the most vulnerable when they are either pregnant or they are trying to leave. She knew her husband could/would prevent her leaving. He would possibly track her down if she left and she would never feel safe. She possibly felt murder was her only option to truly escape. 6d

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement @eeclayton @Librarybelle @Cuilin You all offer outstanding possibilities. I'd like to add just one that goes along with what @eeclayton said. According to Eugenia herself, she started as a “poor circus girl.“ Yet, after she gets mauled and her husband's death is ruled accidental, she states that she “had enough money“ to go into hiding and “plenty of hard cash“ to throw at her landlady. ⬇️ 5d

dabbe Where'd the money come from? Could it be that she collected lots of money after she inherited her husband's property (probably selling it) and collecting insurance for his accidental death? The murder left her well-off enough to fulfill her desires--although admittedly they might have been better desires had she not been mauled. So, the motive for murder might have been for good, old-fashioned greed: money. 5d

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @dabbe

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

Daisey, erzascarletbookgasm, CogsOfEncouragement, AnneCecilie, Born.A.Reader, Aimeesue, Larkken, Librarybelle, mom2bugnbee, Chrissyreadit, Read4life, StayCurious, CatLass007, Mollyanna, curiouserandcurioser, eeclayton, IndoorDame, kelli7990, TheAromaofBooks, 5feet.of.fury, Tineke, Fr3NcHtOaSt, Blackink_WhitePaper, RayHallucinogen, Pageturner1, PageShifter, AnnR, kimrenee, aroyse, CrystalE02

CogsOfEncouragement SH wondered what had happened. Instead of having to figure it out, the story is simply confessed. He doesn‘t have any satisfaction in solving a puzzle, but does feel good about saving a life. Not the normal events W usually reports. (edited) 6d

eeclayton What @CogsOfEncouragement said, plus, he didn't have to force a confession out of her, or trick her into it, she offered it of her own volition. 6d

Librarybelle Agreed, @CogsOfEncouragement and @eeclayton ! 6d

Cuilin It‘s definitely a change up, however “ but there was something in the woman‘s voice which arrested Holmes attention. He turned swiftly upon her. ‘Your life is not your own‘ ” Holmes predicted and prevented her suicide. 6d

dabbe @CogsOfEncouragement @eeclayton @Librarybelle @Cuilin There have been some stories where Holmes's detective skills are not necessarily needed, but this one seems to be the ONE where Holmes literally does NOTHING but listen, absolve, and prevent a suicide like @Cuilin said. The tragedy has already unfolded, and the story focuses on psychological suffering rather than intellectual triumph. It's the only Holmes story without a criminal case to solve. 5d

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dabbe

The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger | Arthur Conan Doyle

#NoPlaceLikeHolmes @Cuilin @dabbe

Thoughts, Sherlockians?

Daisey, erzascarletbookgasm, CogsOfEncouragement, AnneCecilie, Born.A.Reader, Aimeesue, Larkken, Librarybelle, mom2bugnbee, Chrissyreadit, Read4life, StayCurious, CatLass007, Mollyanna, curiouserandcurioser, eeclayton, IndoorDame, kelli7990, TheAromaofBooks, 5feet.of.fury, Tineke, Fr3NcHtOaSt, Blackink_WhitePaper, RayHallucinogen, Pageturner1, PageShifter, AnnR, kimrenee, aroyse, CrystalE02

CogsOfEncouragement She could have left a note to be found, but seems she wanted to make sure SH heard the truth and hoped W would write about it for inquiring minds to know. I chuckled that she trusted SH to be judge and jury, and to agree her current punishment was enough. We have discussed his tendency toward this many times. W highlighting it here. 6d

Librarybelle I like that thought, @CogsOfEncouragement , that she chose Holmes to tell her story to, so he could be judge and jury. Holmes has a solid reputation, and yes, we definitely know that he looks at justice in a way that the police and the clergy would not necessarily do. 6d

Cuilin One, Sherlock is not constrained by law and two she has read his case and knows the likelihood he would understand she has been punished enough. 6d

dabbe Excellent points, @CogsOfEncouragement @Librarybelle @Cuilin. I think Mrs. Ronder seeks Holmes because she wants to confess her guilt but fears legal or religious consequences. The clergy cannot absolve her of past actions, and the police might expose her role in her husband‘s murder. Holmes, however, represents a neutral yet morally astute figure who can bear witness without judgment. 5d

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