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Schuld und Shne
Schuld und Shne: Roman | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Leniverse
Crime and Punishment | Fiodor Dostoyevski
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#CAPBuddyRead update
Part 3.
Raskolnikov is still utterly unhinged, but now calm enough to fool people.
His sister is potentially in a budding triangle drama involving the tropes "age-gap" and "brother's best friend".
I keep mistaking Zamyotov for Zossimov.
Two new players make a mysterious appearance.
I'm at the 50% mark!

Caroline2 Whey!! Well done. I'm gonna try again tonight. 👍 3d
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Leniverse
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoevsky

'Although Pulcheria Alexandrova was already forty-three years old, her face still kept the remnants of its former beauty, and besides, she looked much younger than her age, as almost always happens with women who keep their clarity of spirit, the freshness of their impressions, and the honest, pure ardor of their hearts into old age.'

🙄 43. Old age. 🤨

#CAPBuddyRead

Bookwomble Life expectancy in Czarist Russia was shockingly low, being 29.6 years in 1845, and not significantly improving until after Stalin. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/ 1w
Leniverse @Bookwomble But surely that just means that child mortality was really high, and that illness and accidents took a lot of people, and not that people were considered old if they made it past 30. Still, that really is shockingly low! 😧 1w
Bookwomble @Leniverse Yes! Of course you are right, and child mortality rates in Czarist Russia are shockingly high, with 42% of children not making it past 5 years ?. I guess old Fyodor had that patriarchal "women over thirty are past it" mentality. These days, he'd probably be a film or TV casting director! 1w
Leniverse @Bookwomble I can see how the kind of life people had would age them beyond their years though. 🫤 And there's been rather a lot of death in the book too! 1w
Bookwomble @Leniverse It's one of my favourite books, that I'm well overdue a re-read! 😊 1w
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Leniverse
Crime and Punishment | Fiodor Dostoyevski
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How are you all doing with the #CAPBuddyRead ?
I have read Part One, in which Raskolnikov is increasingly desperate and a thought experiment becomes a fixed idea. But the best laid plans etc
And Part Two, in which Raskolnikov suffers a nervous breakdown and delirium that would have had any English character of the era carted off to a private institution to die off page.
Now starting Part Three to discover if Raskolnikov gets a grip.

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Leniverse
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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I'm going in.
I aim to hopefully read at least a chapter per day. Actually started it last night, but only got through the Foreword and Translator's Note, then fell asleep. Hope that's not a sign 😅

I'm reading the Pevear & Volokhonsky translation. What's everyone else going with?
#CAPbuddyread

LeeRHarry Good luck! 😊 2mo
sarahbarnes I loved this when I read it. I would say it does pick up. 😂 2mo
CogsOfEncouragement I went back and forth with ebook and audiobook which worked well for me to keep reading while doing dishes, driving, etc. I really enjoyed this one. So much so I read The Idiot not too long after. 2mo
Leniverse @LeeRHarry @sarahbarnes @CogsOfEncouragement Now that I'm not half asleep I'm enjoying it 😂 It sets the tone really well already on the first page. I think it'll read faster than I expected. 2mo
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LitsyEvents
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoevsky
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RaeLovesToRead
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoevsky
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@BarbaraJean @Librarybelle @Leniverse @Caroline2 @AnneCecilie @Larkken @Kristy_K @Cuilin @wanderinglynn @deblovestoread @jess @leniverse @aa_guer2021 @sparklemn

OK guys.... you may begin!!!!!!!!

But if you've got a lot on, don't worry. We are going at a leisurely pace.

After all, when we've finished #CAPbuddyread it's on to Ulysses.

Use the hashtag to update us on how you're doing.

THERE IS NO RUSH. And feel free to start at a later date.

Caroline2 I do love that cover!!! 😻 2mo
Librarybelle Hooray!! 2mo
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BarbaraJean 🎉🎉What time frame are you thinking—do you have a finish date in mind? (Trying to figure out reading priorities for the next couple months!) (edited) 2mo
RaeLovesToRead @BarbaraJean There is no time frame! We just see how far we get. I recently did a buddy read of Ducks, Newburyport and I think only myself and @Leniverse got to the end! Maybe midway through next year? 2mo
BarbaraJean Aha! Sounds good. I think I will try to finish by the end of the year… if I don‘t give myself a deadline it may not happen 🤪 2mo
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RaeLovesToRead
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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@BarbaraJean @Librarybelle @Leniverse @Caroline2 @AnneCecilie @Larkken @Kristy_K @Cuilin @wanderinglynn @deblovestoread @jess @leniverse

Hello fellow glutens for punishment!

The plan was to start C&P at a leisurely pace starting 1st October. How does everyone feel about this?

1) Yes, let's start tomorrow!
2) Delay start 1 month to November
3) Let's start January instead

The translation I have is the Oliver Ready version (cover above).

Librarybelle I‘m ready to start tomorrow! 2mo
Jess I have my copy and am ready whenever everyone else is. 2mo
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BarbaraJean October is suuuuuper overloaded but I‘m in for starting tomorrow, depending on what “leisurely” looks like 😆 2mo
Deblovestoread Have overbooked myself per usual but will start whenever you say go. 😁 2mo
aa_guer2021 Just came across this post. Maybe I will be motivated to finally tackle this book. And I can do it in the original!! 🤔🫠 2mo
wanderinglynn I can start tomorrow but would prefer January! 😉 2mo
Larkken Torture away whenever! 2mo
Sparklemn I‘d like to join if I may! 2mo
Kristy_K Whatever works for everyone else! I‘m flexible. 2mo
AnneCecilie I have a lot of bookish stuff going on right now and would prefer to wait until January 2mo
Leniverse As long as I don't have to finish it in October, I can start now 😂 November might be better though. 2mo
camscampbell I have a slow read of this going at a chapter a week. It‘s a nice pace. 2mo
Caroline2 Nov would be better for me too but happy to start now. I have the Constance Garnett translation. 👍 2mo
RaeLovesToRead @aa_guer2021 @Sparklemn I will add you both to the tag list!!!! 😊 2mo
RaeLovesToRead @camscampbell That'll probably be about my pace. It took me about 18 months to read War and Peace! 😄 2mo
camscampbell @RaeLovesToRead I love to hear that you‘ve read War and Peace! I just passed a rather sad scene in that book not two minutes ago. I‘m reading it a chapter a day, which makes it a one-year read. I may start it again on 1 Jan and read a different translation alongside the Russian. The chapters are short and it‘s become a ritual this year that I‘d like to continue. 2mo
RaeLovesToRead @camscampbell I also read the Anthony Briggs translation. I thought it was pretty good. The whole novel is an experience. The structure is bizarre and not at all beginning, middle, end, but it doesn't matter because the stories come and go and evolve! 2mo
AnishaInkspill I have this ed, I might not be able to join this one 2mo
RaeLovesToRead @AInkspill Let me know if you want adding to the tag list! It's very leisurely. I haven't started yet. 2mo
AnishaInkspill @RaeLovesToRead yeah, pls add me, thanks 2mo
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PaoloDerLiterat

„Wer eine umfassende Erkenntnis und ein fühlendes Herz besitzt, dem bleiben Leiden und Schmerz niemals erspart. Wirklich große Menschen müssen (…) große Traurigkeit auf dieser Welt empfinden“

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SanjanaGhosh
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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The part about the cruelty towards the horse, even if it was just a dream, put me off!

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RaeLovesToRead
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Don't think I've forgotten!

So I've been thinking Crime & Punishment should be the next buddy read #CAPbuddyread #torturedpoetsbookclub

Have had a request to start in October... what does everyone think? It'll be a long term thing. Read at your own pace. And I would suggest a WhatsApp group so we can discuss (or use hashtag for those who don't want in.)

Thoughts?

Tagging interested folks in the comments!

Librarybelle If October is a good time to start, maybe starting October 1st? I like the Tortured Poets Book Club name! 😂 3mo
RaeLovesToRead @Librarybelle Yes, would be start of Oct, and then just running at own pace. Tortured Poets... for those who love pain and hardship in their reading life, but also, probably, Taylor Swift 🤣🤣 3mo
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Librarybelle @RaeLovesToRead 😂 I fit with the group name more for the hardship and pain of reading rather than the music, I‘m afraid to say, but there are a couple of her songs that are definitely catchy. It‘s a perfect name for the chunkster reads! 3mo
Deblovestoread A classic I‘ve intended to read so count me in. Not a Swiftie but love the name. 3mo
Jess I think I‘m in too. Always wanted to read this one. 3mo
Caroline2 Count me in!! 🙋‍♀️ 3mo
RaeLovesToRead @Librarybelle @Deblovestoread @jess @Caroline2 Woo! I will post before the challenge. If you want to be added to a WhatsApp group when we start email me your mob number to raelouisewatts@gmail.com 💕 It's OK if you'd rather just use the hashtag! 3mo
Leniverse I'm so far from being a Swiftie that I don't even understand the reference. To me Tortured Poets Book Club sounds like something from a Brat pack movie 😂 Andrew McCarthy and Judd Nelson would be the inaugural members. Anyway, it's a very suitable name for reading Russian Lit. 3mo
Larkken Count me in too! 3mo
BarbaraJean I'm in! Sorry for the delayed response! How does “at your own pace“ work--will there be a target end date? 3mo
AnishaInkspill the name caught my eye, I\'m in, I may not be able to join in for C&P, I\'m in the midst of Plato, ha ha, or trying 2mo
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naeyma
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Great book! Love love love love love Dostoevsky.

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rimrma
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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DHill
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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I‘ve read this so many times over the years I thought I‘d give the audio a try.

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Liz_M
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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How could I not stop at this Philly brewpub once I learned of its existence?

Aimeesue Just don‘t drink with Ivan! 6mo
TieDyeDude Ha, I stopped in here after one of my favorite days in Philly. Walked along the Schuylkill from 30th St Station to Brewerytown listening to audiobooks. C&P had only been open a couple years at that time. Good to see they're still going strong. 6mo
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Liz_M @TieDyeDude it is a nice walk! Until you realize you're trapped between the river and a busy road with no stoplights/crosswalks and you desperately need a bathroom and a beer and have to go forward 3 miles or back the way you came for 2 miles. 😂😂 6mo
Liz_M @Aimeesue Or Raskolnikov! 6mo
Aimeesue @Liz_M oh, definitely don‘t drink with that guy! He‘s super sketchy. 😂 (edited) 6mo
Chrissyreadit Sorry i fell asleep before i checked last night- that has happened a couple of times- are you ok if i jump in in the morning when that happens? 6mo
Liz_M @Chrissyreadit Absolutely. I,umm, completely neglected to check this week -- I was touristing and had less downtime than anticipated. 6mo
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Tripex
Crimen y castigo | Fiodor Dostoyevski
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😊

Jari-chan 😂😂😂 10mo
AmyG Hahahahaha! 10mo
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Bookwomble We visited Russia in 1991, just before Yeltsin came to power, and visited the Mariinsky Hospital for the Poor, Dostoyevsky's childhood home where his father was doctor, and the Dostoevsky Literary Museum in Leningrad (as it still was). I was rather awe-struck to be in places so intimately connected with him. 13mo
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mjtwo
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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18-21 Oct 23 (audiobook)
Another book I read as a uni student, at which time, I recall, I wanted Raskolnikov to get away with his crime and was frustrated by his descent into madness and paranoia. I felt differently upon listening to it thirty years later and had little sympathy for Raskolnikov.
Dostoevsky is, however, a master and his story remains compelling with many interesting characters and philosophies, particularly regarding the great man.

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Hamlet
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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I finally got to this one. Dostoyevsky offers some interesting psychological portraits here; his exploration of “the great man” theory of history (& its shedding of conventional morality) through impoverished, troubled Raskolnikov was intriguing. Other characters were fascinating too, as were questions of redemption & the ongoing nature of his punishment. I found the epilogue to be an abject failure, unworthy of the rest of the book.

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Mink
Su ve ceza | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

İ finished this book one month ago, but i still remember it very clearly. İf you want a classic book with some romantic features and realism, this one is really great. But its a bit long story,and the story is really great.

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aditiee
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

“The temperament reflects everything like a mirror! Gaze into it and admire what you see!“

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Ryab
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Pickpick

Freudian in the way it brings up deep seeded emotions. I genuinely enjoyed reading this book it only got better

gebbxl such a good book to fall asleep to 🔥 2y
gebbxl TRUE 2y
gebbxl That was markana 2y
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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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I started this book very enthusiastically, and then it got slow. Extremely slow. However, as I got past the first 6-7 chapters, I was hooked. After the first part, the book was still ridiculously slow, but what got me were the thoughts.

Entering Raskolinkov‘s mind was like entering a dark abandoned cellar with corridors leading to deep dark parts. This darkness led to very insightful and disturbing thoughts, which I bloody loved.

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️/5

Reyzl I also found it slow and dark. I know it is a masterpiece and it contains a lot of brilliant quotes but it‘s not one of the books that I have particularly enjoyed🤷🏼‍♀️ I love Dostoyevsky‘s “White Nights”. 2y
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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Your worst sin is that you have destroyed and betrayed yourself for nothing.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Man has it all in his hands, and it all slips through his fingers from sheer cowardice.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

To go wrong in one‘s own way is better than to go right in someone else‘s.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

There is nothing in the world more difficult than candor, and nothing easier than flattery.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Only to live, to live and live! Life, whatever it may be!

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Break what must be broken, once for all, that‘s all, and take the suffering on oneself.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

The man who has a conscience suffers whilst acknowledging his sin. That is his punishment-- as well as prison.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

A hundered suspicions don‘t make a proof

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

I did not bow down to you, I bowed down to all the suffering of humanity.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

We‘re always thinking of eternity as an idea that cannot be understood, something immense. But why must it be? What if, instead of all this, you suddenly find just a little room there, something like a village bath-house, grimy, and spiders in every corner, and that‘s all eternity is. Sometimes, you know, I can‘t help feeling that that‘s what it is.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

When all reason fails, the devil helps.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

It takes something more than intelligence to act intelligently.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

An honest and sensitive man opens his heart, and the man of business listens and goes on eating—and then he eats you up.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

If you yourself don‘t dare, then there‘s no justice in it all.

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

“Do you understand, do you understand, my dear sir, what it means when there is no longer anywhere to go?”

“Accepting fate obediently as it is, once and for all, and stifling everything in myself, renouncing any right to act, to live, or love!”

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Words are not yet deeds

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

I myself will come to you to be crucified, for I thirst not for joy, but for sorrow and tears!

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Sharv_Sona
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky

“Wonder, what are people most afraid of? A new step, their own new world, that‘s what they‘re most afraid of.”

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lonelybluenights
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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First book of the new year.

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sdbruening
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Panpan

Whew, I made it. It was interesting for a while but then it just dragged. It almost seemed operatic to me in its melodrama and dialogue. I have enjoyed the philosophical musings in other Russian novels but the musings in this one did not keep my interest; I ended up skimming them.

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josephkc
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoevsky

"I didn't bow down to you, I bow down to all the suffering of the humanity".

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AllDebooks
Crime and Punishment | Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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#Scarathalon2022 #Dailyprompts #TeamSlaughter

Ohhh what brilliant cover artwork

Day 10 - Crime

@Clwojick

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Bookwomble
Crime and Punishment (UK) | David Zane Mairowitz
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A necessarily simplified version of Dostoevsky's classic, this was a good adaptation within the confines of a graphic novel.
Mairowitz and Korkos set the action in modern Russia to draw parallels between the corruption and inequality of Tzarist Russia and Putin's Russia. Worth an hour of most people's time, I think.