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You'll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey: Crazy Stories about Racism | Amber Ruffin, Lacey Lamar

Working on this one today and alternating between laughing and feeling disgust. People, ugh. Hope to finish this today, then catch up with #1619Project and start This Life for #DeadPhilosophersSociety for #WeekendReading - but next it‘s Take Your Kid to the Library Day (which is 2-3 times per week for us, but an actual Day apparently).

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The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story | Nikole Hannah-Jones, The New York Times Company

I ran across this on Twitter, it made me think about the #1619Project I‘m currently reading and all the controversy on teaching about this country‘s real history in schools instead of the sanitized version.

#1619GroupRead

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TheBookHippie Exactly. 2y

sprainedbrain Yep, this sums it up. 2y

kplovesbooks Sounds about right. 🙄 2y

GingerAntics Yup! Sad, but true! 2y

GingerAntics But liberal are the snowflakes? Hm. 2y

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The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story | Nikole Hannah-Jones, The New York Times Company

Wrapping up this weeks discussion, is there anything else you would like to add? Did you have a chance to explore any of the additional resources, including those in the footnotes?

We'll discuss Chapter 1: Democracy and the two poems Daughters of Azimuth and Loving Me. This was one of the keystone essays in the original NYT piece, so I may end up posting more than one discussion question a day. #1619GroupRead #1619Project

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Ida B. the Queen: The Extraordinary Life and Legacy of Ida B. Wells | Michelle Duster

Hello #SheSaid well I‘m learning some things, but overall I‘m a bit disappointed. I wanted so much more from this book, and it definitely has some great info, but is also a bit repetitive and written as a middle grade book in parts. 🤷‍♀️

😬sorry, I hate to say bad things about a book about such a great lady.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @ImperfectCJ @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @ravenlee @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @IndoorDame @MoonWitch94 @sabyym As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. 2y

IndoorDame I have to agree that I‘m getting the middle school textbook vibe from it. Which isn‘t to say I‘m not learning things, because my own education was shockingly lacking. But I still feel like I want to go more in depth on the things I‘m learning so I may have to seek out more resources. That said, as someone who‘s always thinking as an educator, I‘m really glad this book exists just as it is. 2y

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @IndoorDame I think that‘s where my frustration lays, if it was written and labeled as a middle grade book, then it‘s great. Are you reading with the #1619Project too? I think you‘d enjoy some of that book as well. 2y

staci.reads Agreed - the author definitely sound like she's talking to kids, especially when she does an aside to explain a pretty commonly known history, like the rise of the KKK. Even as a middle school book, though, I still feel like the organization of the book makes no sense. I too am learning things I didn't know about Ida B Wells, so definitely not a waste of time! 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @staci.reads I‘ve finished it now and found the last sections a bit repetitive with what we read before also. And the asides are well done, but sometimes they come right after she has just explained the same things in the regular text of her story. That seems like an editor issue to me 🤷‍♀️ 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ..maybe the page layer? 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I also found it odd that for some of the historical people, they used drawings instead of photos which are widely available….that also made it seem more middle school to me. Don‘t get me wrong I‘ve loved that in some YA books, it just seemed out of place here. 2y

IndoorDame @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I am reading The 1619 Project too, and am really enjoying enjoying what I‘ve read so far. 2y

MallenNC I‘m fascinated by Ida B. wells and am always interested to learn more about her. I appreciated learning about her childhood and the loss of her parents. I can see where she developed her strength from that experience. I‘m reading this as an ebook so I think some of the illustrations aren‘t shown. It does seem like a middle grade book but I‘m still learning from it. 2y

megnews @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I definitely blame the lack of editorial process. 2y

megnews @staci.reads I agree about the organization. She really lost me on the timeline in the middle of the book. Beginning or end, not the middle and not a whole chapter. To me, this was another huge editing issue. 2y

KathyWheeler While I‘ve learned things from this book, I‘ve also been disappointed in it. The structure is strange, some things are not discussed in enough detail while others are repeated, and we get too much information on later civil rights leaders without contextualizing them within the life and legacy of Wells. And that timeline was just weirdly placed. I‘m glad I read it but I don‘t think I‘d recommend it to anyone wanting to learn more about Wells. (edited) 2y

ravenlee I agree with everything that‘s already been said. It‘s been a little odd, as I‘ve been reading several books recently that feature Wells and never have before. Vanguard, Lifting as We Climb, More Deadly Than War had some unexpected context, and now this one - it‘s all kind of turned into a jumble. 2y

tenar Yes, I agree with everyone‘s thoughts. And I was concerned by how often the writing purported to know how Ida‘s relatives were feeling. It wasn‘t clear how much was the author‘s speculation. Though this book is not exactly what I want it to be, reading it is still helping me reinforce what is, unfortunately, relatively new information to me. And it‘s had me scoping out biographies of her. There‘s a sweeping, highly reviewed one that‘s 800 pages!

Ida: A Sword Among Lions: Ida B. Wells and the Campaign Against Lynching

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar I have that one too, I just haven‘t tackled it yet. I‘m debating now if I should try to tackle it soon or see if we‘d like to read it as a group at some point in the future (maybe over more than 1 month though 😂) 2y

tenar @Riveted_Reader_Melissa One of the reviews I read said you learn so much not just about her, but about the country and the time period. I would absolutely love to join a group read, and definitely for more than one month! 😅 2y

BarbaraTheBibliophage Finally got my Library Hold!! Catching up soon! 2y

vlwelser I don't know what to do with this book. I'm going to stop complaining about it. Because they can't all be winners and the next book will likely be better. 2y

BarbaraTheBibliophage Well, it didn‘t take long for me to catch up once my hold came in. Yes, the book‘s structure is confounding. And in the Amazon categories, it doesn‘t mention middle grade at all. But I *know* I saw this in the kid‘s section of my fav indie bookstore (pre-Covid). Maybe the author wanted to grab the kids‘ attention before plodding through chrono dates and early life. But it‘s a head scratcher, for sure. 2y

BarbaraTheBibliophage I like how this relates to other recent group reads — from 400 Souls to The Warmth of Other Suns and Vanguard. And will connect to 1619, I‘m sure. Just reopened 400 Souls to read those sections again for a more adult-facing perspective. 2y

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Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All | Martha S. Jones

Updated Schedule for #SheSaid, some major & minor changes. I kept our January pick since so many are looking forward to more about Ida B Wells since crossing paths with her in a few other places. But I spaced out our reads a bit for the beginning of the year to hopefully make more space in your schedule for everyone who wants to participate in the #1619Project with @4thhouseontheleft

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa If we need to make any future adjustments as we go, I‘m going to leave that possibility open though. So if you are reading with both groups and finding it difficult to keep up, please say so and let me know….and we can adjust more. I don‘t want anyone to miss out on any great books they want to participate in. 2y

MallenNC This looks like a great plan to me. I am looking forward to reading about Ida B. Wells! 2y

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC I was trying to come up with a compromise that might work for everyone….but again if it doesn‘t work, I‘ll leaving it open to change more if we need to. 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I know you were waiting for this @vlwelser 2y

MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think that‘s a good way to go. I think this looks workable but I hope you will also say if it is too much for you. 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC Thank you 2y

vlwelser 🤗😘 2y

ravenlee It looks good to me! 2y

Karisa Works for me too. Thanks! 💗 2y

ravenlee In case anybody needs it - Book Outlet has Ida B. the Queen, Rage Becomes Her, and The Purpose of Power - for under $10 each and through today (what‘s left of it) use HOLIDAY5 to get an extra $5 off. 2y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ravenlee Thanks! That‘s a great deal too. 2y

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