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Run Towards the Danger | Sarah Polley

Hello #SheSaid! Sorry for the very late post this weekend! How are you all doing with the book and this week‘s essay?

Happy Father‘s Day to the Dads in the US today too (and elsewhere even if your Father‘s Day is not today 😉)

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vlwelser This essay about basically putting young children in danger for art was sort of mind blowing. I think that's actually what this book is known for. Or why it got a lot of attention. Aside from Sarah Polley being a unicorn. 2w

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MallenNC This essay about how unprotected she was making that movie was sad. She did a good job unpacking the different layers of blame she had for her parents and the filmmakers. 2w

KathyWheeler What got to me was how long it took her to place any blame on the director! Children clearly need more stringent rules in place to protect them. I was shocked at what she was put through. 2w

Singout I‘m late to the game, even though I think I nominated the book! I‘ve found all these essays powerful: this one really unpacks a lot of layers, as others have said. She does a really good job of articulating the tensions between her needs and fears as a child actor, the trauma caused by uncertainty and pressure with her parental relationships, and feeling both exploited and charmed by Gilliam. I‘ve never seen the movie but I am now intrigued. 2w

Julsmarshall I‘m behind, my hold on the #audio just came in but I‘m already on the second chapter. What a heartbreaking story and powerful voice. With her directorial chops, I‘m not surprised that she is such a great writer. 2w

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler I think because at that age you think of your parents as still all knowing and god-like beings that protect and care for you. So any danger that comes is their mistake. It takes the growing up to a certain age, where you realize they are just human too and make the same human mistakes as anyone else, that more comes in. Most kids hit that in the teens, that‘s why they become rebellious and do not take everything you say ⤵️ (edited) 1w

Riveted_Reader_Melissa To heart anymore, because you don‘t really “know” anything. But for our author, that normal growing up pattern through different age groups is all over the place, which she mentions in here, no boundaries as a child, and moving out while still so young. So I‘m not surprised it took here awhile to get there 1w

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I really liked the accountability of everyone at the end…. The white, male, mad-geniuses are permitted to risk everyone for “the art” but that would not be tolerated by other directors/artists. I also like that the other mad genius Robin Williams who is just mentioned briefly, but in a completely different and caring way… just showed it didn‘t have to be that way. 1w

KathyWheeler @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I agree with everything you just said. 1w

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Run Towards the Danger | Sarah Polley

Hello #SheSaid! I hope you are having a good weekend so far!

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3w

Riveted_Reader_Melissa So far I‘m liking her writing style, it loops sometimes and goes on tangents, but they somehow always loop back & reconnect. I thought the last 2 essays, the ones in this section were very good. 3w

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vlwelser I think she's a great story teller. Even if she didn't finish high school. Both of these essays are very impactful. She tells what these experiences are like as experienced rather than observed. I think that's powerful. 3w

MallenNC I think she‘s a good storyteller too. I liked both of the essays in this section especially how honest she was about why she didn‘t initially share her “Me too” experience. I was thinking how many of the books we‘ve read together include sexual assault. It‘s an indication of how common an experience it is, but her story shows why it‘s still hard to talk about. 3w

KathyWheeler I really liked how she talked about why she didn‘t come forward about her assault. I think so many victims don‘t for many of the same reasons, yet practically the first question asked when people do come forward is, “Why didn‘t you report it right away?” Umm — because I didn‘t want to be assaulted again by the “justice” system. (edited) 3w

CatLass007 She is a fine storyteller. I have learned a lot from this book and another book I just finished, Elyn Saks‘s The Center Cannot Hold, how poorly women are treated in the healthcare system and it‘s not just in the US, it‘s in Canada. Polley‘s mother was labeled a “hypochondriac.” Saks was written off as a woman with a mental illness. Polley‘s mother died of cancer. Saks had a brain bleed. Drs take men‘s health complaints more seriously than women‘s. 3w

CatLass007 I have to add that I have been blessed to never have been sexually assaulted or harassed. I often wondered why women waited years to come forward about their horrific experiences. Anita Hill only came forward when Clarence Thomas was nominated for the Supreme Court. She may have had some idea of how she would be treated. Growing up with two Republican parents, I was often much further to the left than either could imagine. But we all (cont)⬇️ 2w

CatLass007 believed her. When the #MeToo era arrived I didn‘t have much difficulty believing that these women had been sexually assaulted. It did take me a long time to wrap my head around the idea that the Jell-O Pudding, Dr. Heathcliff Huxtable, America‘s dad, Bill Cosby could have done the things of which he was accused. Phylicia Rashad portrayed his wife in two different series and she‘d never had any trouble. In fact, she was a vocal (cont)⬇️ 2w

CatLass007 supporter. It wasn‘t until I watched a documentary miniseries on Prime Video that I came to realize that there were plenty of reasons not to come forward against Cosby or any other man. The courage it takes for women to come forward about their sexual assault, whether the perpetrator is famous or not, is astounding. I have so much respect for each and every one of them. 2w

AnneCecilie Both these essays were powerful. It was heartbreaking reading about how victims of sexual assault aren‘t the “ideal” victims because they sometimes take a long time to come forward, don‘t have a straight memory of the events and some may even have interacted with their assaulter afterwards. And it‘s hard to read about how lawyers she knew didn‘t want her to come forward because they knew how she would be treated, really an indicator of that (edited) 2w

AnneCecilie something has to change. I thought I would be safe in the other one since it‘s about having kids and I don‘t have any and never wanted any, but the pages after the birth had me constantly crying. I was a mess. (edited) 2w

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Run Towards the Danger | Sarah Polley

Hello #SheSaid!

This book started out with a very strong essay. How did you feel about it? Plus I learned a whole lot about Lewis Carroll that I wish I didn‘t know 🫣. See you in the comments ⤵️

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 4w

MallenNC I wasn‘t really familiar with Sarah Polley before this, so reading that essay without any preconceptions was interesting. Her dad definitely made me uncomfortable, much like the Lewis Carroll references. I‘d heard a little about his relationship with the real Alice before but not so specifically. 4w

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vlwelser I love Sarah Polley. I grew up on the Canadian border, in rural NY, so my TV options were not vast. She's in this LM Montgomery adaptation that I cannot currently remember the name of, that I was obsessed with. In addition to Road to Avonlea. The Lewis Carroll stuff is creepy and also that it parallels her father's behavior. 4w

vlwelser I had to look it up it's a tv adaptation of this random LM Montgomery novel

Jane of Lantern Hill

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DebinHawaii I knew her a little from Road to Avonlea & a movie she did called My Life Without Me but I didn‘t know anything about her personal life. Yes, the Lewis Carroll thing continues to disturb but the stuff with her father really creeped me out.🤢 4w

staci.reads I just finished the first essay, and I'm having a hard time with this one. I'm not connecting with the author at all. I'm finding her irritating. No doubt it's a me problem right now, but I'm trying to decide whether to continue with this book or put it aside. 3w

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @staci.reads Not every book is for every one. It took me forever to learn that one. If you want to try 1 more essay, go for it….but if not, do not be afraid to call it for yourself and move onto something else. Life is too short if you are not enjoying it right now. (edited) 3w

AnneCecilie I hadn‘t heard about Sarah Polley before, but I recognized the movie referenced on the cover (Women Talking, it seem this one). Both Lewis Carroll and her dad mad me uncomfortable. But I think I was more sad for the girl that had to grow up to fast, she moved out at 14 and take care of herself and how bad her stage fright became that she used a 10 hr back surgery to get out of the play 2w

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Run Towards the Danger | Sarah Polley

Hello #SheSaid

Next up for June! Pick up your library holds, interlibrary loans, or pick this one up on kindle (currently only 4.99 in the US).

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros @Deblovestoread ⤵️ 1mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 1mo

Suet624 I've been wanting to read this for ages - unfortunately none of my libraries has it and I don't read on a Kindle but I was able to find a copy on BetterWorldBooks! So I'm in! 1mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Suet624 That‘s great! I was waiting on a library hold and just caved today and bought the ebook kindle version 😂 1mo

willaful I'm going to skip this one. Busy month. 1mo

MallenNC My library has this so I am hoping my hold comes in soon. 1mo

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Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World | Naomi Klein

Hello #SheSaid! How are you this weekend? Long weekend if you are in the US.

I‘m still behind with the sections on this one, but it‘s very good, and for me at least, taking my time with it is helping me absorb more I think.

I hope you are all getting things from it too. Please let me know how you are making out with this month‘s selection.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 1mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa First, my apologies for being perpetually behind lately. Second I am getting a lot from this book as she gets past the obsessively following her double and into the Mirror World itself and how different groups have managed to find common cause and how strategists have steered the group. 1mo

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vlwelser I really got a lot from this book and I am very glad that I read it. I found the chapter on Palestine especially insightful 1mo

KathyWheeler I‘m really behind too, but I like it, so I will finish it. 1mo

MallenNC I‘m not quite finished yet either but I‘m hoping to finish this week. The material is a lot more dense than I expected so it isn‘t a fast read. But it is giving a lot to think about. 1mo

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On Rereading | Patricia Meyer Spacks

I have reread series before the next book release, or books that have been on my mind, or books that had messages I felt the need to revisit.

The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter both rank high.

Others include The Handmaid‘s Tale.

This year Wild by Cheryl Strayed is on my to reread list.

Rereading at different ages & life stages often makes different parts of the story stand out & come into focus differently I find.

#SundayFunday

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ChaoticMissAdventures I agree! I think reading a book at different life stages can make it a whole different experience. You get something vastly different out of The Handmaid's Tale when you are younger and have all your rights then when you read it older and watching those rights disappearing. 1mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ChaoticMissAdventures Definitely, on that one! Although I‘m finding the ruling by fear in both LOTR & Potter and watching everyone cave because you might mean tweet about them if they do not toe the line also very topical lately 🙄 sadly. All 3 good looks at turning away and ignoring creeping hate/malevolence and giving it more power in the process. 1mo

BookmarkTavern Excellent choices! Thanks for sharing! 1mo

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Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World | Naomi Klein

Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m still behind 😬 in Part 2 yet. I did splurge for the audiobook, so I‘m hoping that helps me to make up some ground. How is it going for everyone else?

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 1mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa My thoughts so far, is this is one we should all read… I think it is going to be essential reading for how to talk about this weird fractured time we are all living through. Even her beginning disbelief at the confusion, to obsession with what is the flip side doing now (Nicole Wallace of Dateline Whitehouse calls it Earth 2), but doppelgänger society works too. To trying to root out the whys & how‘s of it all. It‘s so important and yet I find⤵️ (edited) 1mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ myself taking long breaks between sections. Maybe because it is important but tough to deep dive into too. (edited) 1mo

AnneCecilie What made the biggest impression on me in this part was the treatment of children with autism. Autism Warrior Parents at war with the autism in their child and what they were willing to do to “cure” their kid. Some of these parents will blame the vaccines for the autism in their kids. Reading some of this was hard 1mo

AnneCecilie And when Naomi Wolf compared herself to Rosa Parks for refusing to wear a masks both to a coffee shop and to the waiting area at Grand Central Station and getting away with it. I get provoked when she compares situation during Covid to Jim Crow laws and to Jews during Nazi Germany. 1mo

vlwelser Wolf acts like a 'Karen' and then reacts like people shouldn't be giving her a wide berth. I think contrasting actual protests and other thoughtful acts against these other things is very powerful. She has a way of making these people seem extra crazy. Like with that trucker demonstration in Ottawa. Vs that thoughtful act in BC that showed solidarity and whatnot with the indigenous families. 1mo

vlwelser The worst thing about Wolf is she wants attention and she's getting it for herself. Maybe there's a list of things I dislike about Wolf but this is high on the list. 1mo

MallenNC I‘m a little behind too. This is so interesting to me but it‘s not a fast read. I‘m hoping to catch up this week. It‘s got so many examples of how people have come to believe in a whole different reality so it‘s hard to take in at one time. Scary and frustrating. 1mo

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Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World | Naomi Klein

Hello #SheSaid, & hello to all the Mothers out there on today, the US‘s Mother‘s Day! You are all doing a great job in this crazy hectic world we live in, keep up the good work and make time for yourself too!

Ok…back to the book…. I am struggling with this one and way behind. How is everyone else doing? It‘s fascinating & yet with our fractured society a bit too much of real life at the same time. We all have relatives that have fallen ⤵️

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! ☺️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ fallen down the rabbit hole….and it is not the fun playful one of Alice. So I think my struggle is more, it‘s bad stuff I don‘t want to dredge up again 😂. Her struggles are to much like struggles with some of my actual loved ones…the how can you possibly believe X conversations. At least I have not been confused with them I guess. (edited) 2mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I used to think “they” will all need some cult de-programming in the future, but we may all need some PTSD treatment. The constantly dealing with the ‘no, you do not know what you know‘, the doubts, pushback, the questioning of self…is it me or her that has the real problem. One of us is obviously bonkers, since there is no middle, and since you and all your friends agree…must be me. That the numbers online outweigh so must be “right”. ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ hard to remember Critical Thinking skills and that numbers repeating the same thing (or repeating it louder or more often) does not make it true. This looking glass of our society is so fractured. 2mo

CatLass007 Your words are very insightful. I chose to skip this month‘s selection because I didn‘t want to be in the space in which you now find yourself. The woman was a con artist who cost people a lot of money and caused those same people so much pain. If this had been a work of fiction I might have found it to be entertaining. It‘s a memoir/true crime book and I don‘t enjoy true crime. 2mo

vlwelser I really appreciate the fact that we're all silenced by this. We don't want to seem crazy. They stole the words we want to use. It was maddening enough that she wrote a whole book. I feel a little bad that she has to deal with this. At least they only share a first name really. But I cannot imagine being swept along by this particular crazy train. 2mo

MallenNC I‘m not quite finished with this section but it‘s interesting to me how the author is portraying her own almost obsession with N. Wolfe. I also keep thinking about whether N. Wolfe really believes the ideas she‘s selling these days or if she‘s just an opportunist. That‘s one reason misinformation is so hard to fight — unclear/bad faith motivations. 2mo

KathyWheeler While I‘ve found this book interesting, I am having a hard time with it because of the ideas she‘s discussing. I haven‘t finished this part yet. 2mo

willaful @MallenNC One of the things I learned from the book is how much is to be gained from going over to the dark side... not even necessary just financially, but in praise and affirmations. This is why once people start down that path, they tend to keep going. Once they feel rejected, they'll find what they need elsewhere and convince themselves it's true.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m finding that as much as I did not feel isolated by Covid or quarantines or social distancing (natural introvert I guess), I obviously did feel isolated in my own thoughts and feelings once the disinformation really got going. And the fact that so many still seem so inthralled in all of the big lies. 2mo

MallenNC @willaful Sadly, there are definitely a lot of advantages, both monetary and attention, in selling conspiracies and hatefulness. 2mo

AnneCecilie I learned of a lot of far out theories in this part that I‘ve never heard about. There‘s a Finnish former teacher that occasionally writes a chronicle in one of the big national newspapers and one of her big complaints is that Norwegian are like sheep all moving in the same direction. When it comes to times like the pandemic I must say that I‘m glad about that. I just check and more than 90% of Norwegians have taken two shots of the vaccine. 2mo

AnneCecilie And I‘m glad I never come across this thinking before, the tyranny of vaccine passports and slavery forever. Have they forgotten what slavery is? At the same time it scares me that som many people out there is buying this and they are creating The Mirror World that Klein talks about 2mo

AnneCecilie I never thought about that @MallenNC and you might be in to something that she‘s “just” an opportunist. 2mo

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Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World | Naomi Klein

Hello #SheSaid!

My book was a bit late in arriving so I‘m just at the end of chapter 1. But the Intro really has me interested to read more. Please feel free to start discussing below… I‘ll join in soon. I‘m very curious at how deep we will get into our fractured body politic… see you in the comments.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 2mo

Deblovestoread Please add me. I‘ll jump in as soon as my copy arrives and I get caught up. 2mo

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vlwelser I was a little concerned about where she was going when I was reading the intro. After keeping her mouth shut for so long about other (unhinged) Naomi, it seemed like this might go down a bad path. 2mo

vlwelser It seems to be getting interesting though and I'm looking forward to reading part II. 2mo

MallenNC I have the last chapter of part one still to read but I‘m really interested in the story. I realized as i was reading that I also had mixed up which Naomi was which. I have a lot of sympathy for her bc being mixed up with someone in such a public way has to be difficult. 2mo

KathyWheeler @MallenNC I have mixed them up multiple times. So often that I keep looking up The Beauty Myth to be sure which Noami I really mean. I felt bad for Klein because it has to be frustrating to be accused of saying something you didn‘t say. 2mo

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Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World | Naomi Klein

Next up for #SheSaid!

Put in your library holds and interlibrary loans!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 2mo

vlwelser This one is so new. I'm on the waitlist. Hopefully it comes through at least before the end of the month. 2mo

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Deblovestoread I just ordered this from Book Outlet. Would love to join for May. 2mo

willaful I've already read it, though you can keep me on the list to see what people have to say. 2mo

MallenNC I‘m looking forward to reading this one! 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser This is one of those times where I just decided to buy it. Which I almost never do anymore. I‘ve been much better at using my library and online library resources. 2mo

DebinHawaii I think I fell off the list but would love to be back on. I couldn‘t get my library hold in but I used a credit for the audiobook today. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii let me know if you got tagged in the new post. Your name is in the tag list, but maybe something isn‘t going through properly (edited) 2mo

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Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America | Carol Anderson

Hello #SheSaid!

We have reached the end of another book! I got a lot from this one, I hope you did too. Let me know what you thought about the last section and the book as a whole. See you in the comments

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 2mo

CatLass007 I wish there were solutions for this crime against our fellow human beings. But all the Black Lives Matter marches and other protests won‘t change people‘s hearts. This and other books are good at stirring the emotions. But what are the answers? 2mo

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vlwelser I got so much from this book. This writer is amazing. The last part was so sad. All those young people that were basically murdered for absolutely no reason and no repercussions to the people that did it. 2mo

MallenNC I‘m glad to have read this with our group. It was sad and frustrating to read knowing that this amendment that some people think is so infallible was so flawed from the very start, purposefully and for racist reasons. It‘s another book that I think those who really need to read it never will. 2mo

willaful I think it's so important for this knowledge to be told and shared. And of course a lot of people are trying very hard to supress it. 🤬 2mo

willaful @MallenNC “It‘s another book that I think those who really need to read it never will.“ Ugh, painfully true. 2mo

DebinHawaii I missed last week‘s discussion but I was impressed by the book overall & learned a lot. Frustrating & heartbreaking. Sadly, not only do I think the people who need to read it won‘t, I also think even if they did, it wouldn‘t change their minds at this point. 🤬😖😥 Thank you for picking it & hosting. 2mo

Bookwormjillk I just finished. This was a tough book to read, but I‘m glad I did. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. 2mo

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Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism

Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America | Carol Anderson

Hello #SheSaid!

Anyone else finish this part just infuriated…

I did!

Plus, I left feeling like 90% of the problems we have today are because we were not strong enough to deal with 💩 the first time. 😱🤯

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 2mo

MallenNC Yes. I know it is important to know real history but it‘s horrible and infuriating to read about. I think about how different things might be today if Reconstruction had not been actively sabotaged. 2mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC Yes. If they had won the war and followed through we everything in reconstruction… a different world we would be in. 2mo

vlwelser @MallenNC I definitely agree. All that stuff about Johnson blocking everything burned my butter. What a waste of a president that guy was. And to think he was Lincoln's vp and didn't align with what we assume Lincoln might have done is extra annoying. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC but as infuriating as it is to read, I do truly believe that old saying, that not knowing history and doomed to repeat it. It‘s the white-washing and refusal to teach and learn about it that is leading to us making the same mistakes over & over. (edited) 2mo

CatLass007 I vacillated between fury and sorrow. I had to take a break to listen to a different audiobook for a bit to get me out of my funk. @Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC It‘s not just that we were too cowardly to fix 💩 the first time. It‘s not just about Reconstruction being sabotaged. It‘s about ALL the times we were cowardly and ALL the times progress was sabotaged. We only have to look as recently as the Charlottesville violence. We only (cont)⬇️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser yes, you know those old sci-fi time travel axiom, about going back in time to “kill Hitler” or whatever, feels like maybe it should be to “save Lincoln”. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 yes! The Supreme Court abd the Klan decision 🤬. I can totally see our current Supreme Court making some decisions just like that. 2mo

vlwelser 😂 or get rid of Johnson. But I like this premise. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I put it down for awhile in the middle and started reading Cultish 😂

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CatLass007 have to look as recently as the January 6th insurrection. We only have to look as recently as the book bans that keep occurring. I don‘t know what the answer is. Most people are always going to hate and fear those who are different. Most people need to feel superior to someone else. Most people are completely unwilling to give up their power. I know this book is about the Second Amendment and how it has negatively affected Black (cont)⬇️ 2mo

CatLass007 Americans, but prejudice of all kinds runs rampant in this country and the world. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 Yes, she is writing specifically about the American 2nd Amendment and our issues with race. But I‘m pretty sure if you read histories of any other country that had colonialism or slavery in their history and find similar….it was and is white-supremacy, which is what European‘s decided gave them the “right” to colonize other countries, because they “knew better” what was “best”. They were “smarter” “more evolved” than “heathens” ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ it was the justification for whatever they did to others to make it ok in their own minds to treat them sub-humanly. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa And because they did do horrible things… to get land, labor, whatever…. They needed that justification legally and needed to believe it mentally to make what they were doing ok. But we have not rooted out that thinking yet….i think it is more entrenched in the US than many other places. Probably because we kept slavery longer than other countries, used imperialism after the original European countries were transitioning out of it, and then ⤵️ (edited) 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ doubled-down with Jim Crow, to basically reinforce it, and every time we get rid of one , like slavery to Jim Crow to Mass Incarceration to police brutality….we never really just say outright no, so it festers on in a new way and new form. (edited) 2mo

CatLass007 @vlwelser I have many relatives who believe things would be better if the South had been permitted to secede and if Lincoln hadn‘t “interfered.” @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I agree. The fanatics who distort the teachings of the Bible to support their belief in white supremacy are the ones who are the worst. 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think that the problem is all our white-washing and refusal to learn the real history and confront it. Where places like Germany after Nazi‘s or South Africa after Apartheid had major reckonings and really cracked down on those still spouting old ideas, our history as evidenced here is placate the old beliefs, and protect those still espousing those ideas “for peace” over those that have been wronged. 2mo

vlwelser @CatLass007 my aunt was born on an army base in MS and is always horrified when we all suggest we let them go, but this would have solved this problem entirely. She'd still be a citizen. 2mo

Susanita She was a guest on the Now & Then podcast. It was a powerful episode. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/now-then/id1567665859?i=1000569632405 2mo

willaful This chapter was just devastating. And we're definitely doomed to repeat. I think probably the people who know this history the best are those trying to undo every positive change that has been laboriously made. 😡 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Susanita Thank you, I‘ll check it out 2mo

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Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America | Carol Anderson

Hello #SheSaid

How are you all this weekend? Still learning a lot from the book. I‘m a bit behind this week, so please start discussing without me, I‘ll check in later (hopefully today).

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 2mo

vlwelser I'm really loving this history lesson that she has delved into. I never tied all of these things together. It was taught in school like a bunch of disjointed facts. The writing is very accessible. And I don't feel bored by it. Magic. 2mo

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MallenNC A lot of horrifying parts of US history are brought together in this chapter. One thing that‘s really clear is how wrong it seems that some act like the constitution and it‘s writers were infalible. Which is if course the point of the book. 2mo

DebinHawaii ‘George Washington was greatly concerned, as he brought his enslaved entourage to his presidential residence in Philadelphia, a city where free Blacks were nearly five times more prevalent than those "still tethered to the institution of slavery." He worried that "the idea of freedom might be too great a temptation for them to resist." His wife, Martha Washington, was even more determined to "shield... her slaves from the contagion of liberty."? 2mo

DebinHawaii This chapter was both interesting & horrific. Made it even more clear what an incredibly white-washed history education I was given growing up. 😱🤬 (edited) 2mo

MallenNC @DebinHawaii Agree. The parts I did know were from reading and learning as an adult outside of school. 2mo

Bookwormjillk @DebinHawaii agree 2mo

willaful This was pretty much all new to me, and so staggering. The hypocrisy of the founders and “lovers of liberty“... 2mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii right! I read a lot, so I had that thought before… but it still hits me every time it comes and I‘m still mad about how lied to I feel. And somehow still shocked that they left out XYZ when I was in school. And I should not be surprised considering recent discussions today about trying to control what is put in today‘s schoolbooks. 2mo

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Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America | Carol Anderson

Hello #SheSaid!

How are you this week?

Finding interesting things in this first part, things you knew already or were new to you? I found a bit of both, but like everything of Anderson‘s I‘ve read, she packs a lot of really well researched and sourced info into clear paragraphs without any extra fluff/tangents.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

vlwelser This book is so interesting so far. The author is brilliant. She does an amazing job of giving the history of the second amendment and how it relates back to slavery. I never thought about how some of this all tied together. 3mo

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Bookwormjillk Interesting so far but I get so frustrated when these types of books completely ignore women‘s experiences. 3mo

CatLass007 The way our fellow human beings treat other human beings both infuriates me and makes me want to weep. 3mo

MallenNC I am appreciating this book. She does a great job spelling out how the 2nd amendment came to be in its final form, and the real purpose of it. I‘m interested to see where she takes the rest of the book. 3mo

staci.reads So far, it's engaging. I'm looking forward to see where she goes next now that the origin story is done. 3mo

DebinHawaii Very interesting so far. I didn‘t know about all the reasons the 2nd amendment was written & finalized. As usual, our U.S. history makes me shake my head (while hanging it in shame). 😡 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii Right 😂 it‘s crazy sometimes, some of history we do not teach (Shame part) is the most fascinating as far as truth is stranger than the glossy fiction version we think we know. And as twisted as it is, it is some very interesting and impressive political finagling to get the bread baked. And a really interesting side on some of our lionized “patriotic” “heroes” of the revolution. 3mo

willaful I think it's mostly info I knew but having it all put into context makes it much more powerful. And the historical background is so important. 3mo

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Nonfiction Matters: Reading, Writing, and Research in Grades 3-8 | Stephanie Harvey

The updated list for the rest of this year!

Start planning your library holds and interlibrary loans!

Thank you everyone for your suggestions, nominations, and votes!

#SheSaid

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

vlwelser 😍😍😍😍 3mo

ncsufoxes I‘ve been behind on reading (I started March‘s book but haven‘t finished). Definitely excited about Stoneblind, I just finished 2 of her other books & loved them. I‘ve been slowly reading Unwell Women for a while, so definitely nice to have the motivation to finish it 3mo

CatLass007 This is an exciting list! 3mo

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Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America | Carol Anderson

Up next for #SheSaid!

Please put in you library holds and interlibrary loans and see you on Sunday!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

Bookwormjillk I was able to get this one from the library so count me in this month. 3mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk her books are usually very well written and researched, a lot in not many pages, I‘m really looking forward to this one. 3mo

DebinHawaii Hoping my library hold comes in this week! 3mo

willaful I'm travelling for a lot of this month but will try to participate. 3mo

CatLass007 It‘s all ready for me to start listening. 3mo

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Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Hello #SheSaid!

I hope you are all enjoying the end of this read! It was a good one that I put off for a long time, but I think it came up to read here at the right time when I finally read it….some book serendipity..bookendipity …the right book at the right time when we really needed to hear it (especially if you live in the US… we have to make more trouble here I think before it gets better).

Let me know what you think in the comments

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

CatLass007 I‘m still finishing up the last section but what We‘ve read so far has been fascinating. Cecile Richards comes from political royalty! She hasn‘t been just riding her mother‘s coattails, however. She is a force to be reckoned with in her own right. It is extremely painful that women are fighting the same battles over and over again. I was not aware that Planned Parenthood has been in existence for over 100 years and was begun to help (cont)⬇️ (edited) 3mo

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CatLass007 women receive access to contraceptives. And now the white men in power are trying to take away that freedom also. It has rarely been safe to be a woman but any progress we make is negated repeatedly. We need to #MakeTrouble! 3mo

vlwelser I was so inspired by this. She is so fierce. 3mo

MallenNC I really enjoyed this one, especially learning about all the phases of her activism, from her teen years to now. I also learned more about her mom, and her mother‘s influence. It made me sad that we‘ve fallen further backward from some of the progress made at the time the book was written. 3mo

CatLass007 https://www.thecut.com/article/cecile-richards-brain-cancer-abortion-planned-par... I just googled Cecile Richards again and this article came up. It‘s sad but as @vlwelser said, “She is so fierce.” 3mo

DebinHawaii This was an interesting & important read. What an incredible woman & family & a call to action. Hoping she beats her cancer battle! If anyone can, it‘s her. 3mo

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Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Hello #SheSaid!

Sorry for the late post everyone. My grandmother is in the hospital and I spent the day there. Finally home and have Wi-Fi again (also ran out of data while I was out 🤣 bad planning on my part).

Apparently I was not ready to Make Trouble today….see you in the comments.

(And yes, my grandma is ok, might need a pacemaker, I‘ll know more tomorrow after some tests)

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m still enjoying these chapters and sections, so much good advice about life in there. I really hope the version I have from the library has most updated Afterword, if not I may have to check other versions. 3mo

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TheBookgeekFrau Glad your Grandma is Ok! 🙏🏼 everything continues in a positive direction 💕 3mo

vlwelser I'm really loving this book. She has great advice. And her story itself is so interesting. All of the fighting for reproductive rights is amazing. She inspires a feeling of a need for civil engagement. Not just voting but real action. 3mo

CatLass007 I‘m glad your grandmother is going to be okay. My Mom had a pacemaker and it was very helpful. This is an excellent memoir. It would never have been my choice to have an abortion. But choice is what men are trying to take away from women. I don‘t think anyone who has tried to control women the way politicians and the religious right are doing cares anything about the unborn. This is about control. Always has been. Always will be. People (cont)⬇️ 3mo

CatLass007 like Cecile Richards are fighting for our freedom. Not just reproductive rights but freedom in every sense of the word. 3mo

AllDebooks What an absolutely inspirational woman. I'm with her 💯 on the right to choose what happens to your own body and autonomy. Fantastic memoir, and I'm so glad I read it. 3mo

AllDebooks Glad you're grandma is doing ok 3mo

MallenNC I glad your grandma is ok! I am behind on this book but I am enjoying what I‘ve been able to read so far. I hope to catch up and finish it this week. 3mo

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Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Hello #SheSaid!

You nominated a lot of unique and beautiful choices to add to our reading list. Now we have to narrow them down a little.

https://forms.gle/VKesPCU1z6dVwuvVA

Please check out all those nominated and let us know which you would be interested in reading with our group. Right now the fiction & nonfiction are mixed together, we can sort them later.

I‘ll post the survey again in the comments for easy clicking.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

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CatLass007 Thanks for the tag! Was there a post requesting nominations? I somehow missed that. 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 it was awhile ago, I‘ll tag you there too. But I also added an “other”… write-in spot on the survey to add too. 3mo

Bookwormjillk Wow, that‘s quite the list! I‘ll do some research and will vote soon. 3mo

CatLass007 If it was before I joined the group in mid-January, that‘s fine. I didn‘t actually start reading until February, so there‘s no need to tag me on the nomination post. There already are plenty of books to sort through and vote on. 3mo

CatLass007 Is there an end date to vote? Is there a limit on the number of books we can vote for? 3mo

AllDebooks Blimey, that's an incredible list. Voted 😊 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 vote for as many as you want. And maybe the end of the month. We have a book for April picked already, but then we need to add some new ones 3mo

CatLass007 Thank you! 3mo

staci.reads Done! Added a lot of them to my tbr list too! 3mo

MallenNC I put in my votes! Great list. Most of the ones I didn‘t pick were ones I‘ve read before, otherwise I‘d have voted for them too. 3mo

Singout What @MallenNC said (or ones not available in my library). 3mo

vlwelser Voted. Same as @MallenNC basically voted for everything I haven't already read. 3mo

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Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Hello #SheSaid! How are you this weekend?
How‘s the book going?

I‘m a chapter behind, but hoping to catch up tonight, but still really enjoying this one. I hope you are too.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m a bit in awe of how much really goes into organizing and campaigning. It‘s amazing how time & labor intensive it really is, and how much we don‘t respect it as a job and work. 3mo

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CatLass007 The only thing I know about political campaigns I learned from watching West Wing. Her life and her mother‘s life are so amazing. I had forgotten that Ann Richards was divorced and alcoholic. And that‘s okay since she stayed sober. It‘s interesting that her husband didn‘t leave her until she got sober. I guess he felt an obligation until she could fend for herself and her family. 3mo

vlwelser I got caught up! This one is great so far. What an amazing woman! And Ann Richards! I don't know where you found this but thank you for bringing this to the group. 3mo

MallenNC This is a good one! I really enjoyed the chapter about campaigning in her mother‘s race for governor. It‘s easy to forget how hard that process can be on the candidate‘s family. Prior to this I only had a little knowledge about her mother or about how Cecile really started as an activist. 3mo

Suet624 Oh shoot. I‘ve been so busy I didn‘t see you were reading this. This sounds great! 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Suet624 It‘s ok, start anytime…the posts will still be here to check in as you get through sections 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser You‘re welcome 😂 it‘s been on my book radar forever. She‘s very involved with Planned Parenthood and ever since it (and she) came up in the news back when she testified before Congress (way in the beginning of this book and a lifetime ago now) I‘ve been meaning to read this. And the reminders as Abortion, Women‘s Healthcare, and now in-vitro I kept thinking about it and moving it up my personal list. At this point it may need a ⤵️ 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ new, new, new afterword. 3mo

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Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m enjoying this so far. I want to get back to Planned Parenthood, but this backstory of organizing on multiple levels is very interesting, and something we all probably need to pay attention to and get involved with again as we need to fight for rights we thought we had, all over again…at least in the US.

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vlwelser I never started this yet. I left my book in MA and went to FL. I'll try to catch up. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 4mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser It‘s ok. I still have not finished the book before 😂. Take your time, catch up when you can….and don‘t stress about it. We will all get there when we get there. 4mo

CatLass007 This was an excellent selection for #SheSaid! Cecile Richards has led an amazing life. Let‘s see what happens next! 4mo

MallenNC I‘m a little behind bc my hold only came in on Friday but I‘m glad we‘re reading her story. I‘ve seen her on TV and I know of her mother but I‘m excited to learn more. 4mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/decade2019 4mo

Make Trouble: Standing Up, Speaking Out, and Finding the Courage to Lead--My Life Story | Cecile Richards

Up next for #SheSaid….and somehow it‘s falling at a very good time for reading it, bad time for women in the US.

So put in your library holds, interlibrary loans for this one starting next weekend.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 4mo

vlwelser I requested this with my other March books and it's been staring at me, all ready to go. 4mo

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DebinHawaii I put in the request for this & hoping it comes in soon! 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa #litsyhappenings 4mo

mhillis I‘ve got my copy! 4mo

CatLass007 I‘ve got my copy! I wanted to clarify something. Is my understanding correct that you are the host for both #SheSaid and the #Nonfiction 2024 Bingo Board? What source did you use to determine what fiction prompts to use? Is there something resembling a master list of banned books that I can google? I feel like I would enjoy thumbing my nose at the right wing fanatics who try to tell others what they can and cannot read. (edited) 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 Yes, both are me. You can just google Banned Books and multiple websites will come up. Many libraries do their own Banned Books Week now, abd you can get details by state on banned & challenged books broken down by year usually & state. The American Library Association also collects a lot of data on the issue and has statistics on their site. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2023/07/17/tennessee-book-bans-h... 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 Here is even a TN specific list for you ⤴️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-50-most-banned-books-in-america/51/ 4mo

CatLass007 Thank you so much! I did some googling yesterday and found the American Library Association. But one specific to Tennessee is great! (edited) 4mo

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You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Bren� Brown, Tarana Burke

Hello #SheSaid!

Another one in the books! I‘m not quite finished yet, but still moving along slowly. I am finding that I need to take these slow, read one and let it percolate for a bit before starting the next. How are you all feeling as you finish up this section and this book?

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 4mo

CatLass007 I find myself taking these slowly also. I have two more essays left to listen to but I already have Make Trouble standing by. 4mo

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DebinHawaii I finished the book last week as the library book needed to go back. Overall, I thought it a great collection—powerful & moving & I am still thinking about some of the essays. 4mo

AllDebooks I've got my copy ready to go 4mo

willaful I'm also reading slowly, despite appreciating every essay. It's a lot! 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful I know I was feeling bad about falling behind, but sometimes it‘s better to go slow absorb it all too. 4mo

mhillis Thanks for recommending this book! The essays are powerful. It gave me a different perspective 4mo

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You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Bren� Brown, Tarana Burke

Hello #SheSaid!

How are you doing this weekend?

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m helping with homework today 😂… So I‘ll catch up on the comments when I get a chance later. I‘m still finding this book very relatable, even if I was not its intended audience. Which to me highlights how universal some of the themes are, even when it is highlighting a specific group that often does not get recognized…. Or maybe more gets downplayed by society as not having yet another of one of those very human qualities. So getting a ⤵️ 4mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ lot from it, but trying to remember and take in the message too. That just like the “Strong Black Woman” can hide that Black Woman have pain too and lead it to be untreated or taken seriously and therefore bad hospital outcomes for normal things like childbirth. Take what I can personally, but also remember the bigger message here. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I wish it was something we‘d get past as a society…that some humans are not seen as human yet..still…ever….but we are so very far from that. 4mo

CatLass007 Your last comment is achingly true. 4mo

staci.reads @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Good points. The essays in this section held less personal connections for me. This was a reminder that it was time to sit back, listen, and learn. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @staci.reads it‘s odd, but after I wrote this I saw two things that reflected it back to me…one was a special about diabetes….and losing limbs to it…. Again, relatable, my grandfather had the sane happen. But the story was specifically about African Americans who are more likely to have limbs amputated from diabetes than others….why? Again like maternity deaths..race played a huge role. From being untrusting of doctors and shots (like insulin)⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa …from decades of bad science practiced on African Americans in this country, to the amputate and send them home, so not lots of time and effort on the medical fields end…besides other treatments take time & money.🙄 which basically is assuming a group of the population isn‘t worth the time, assumes they won‘t follow through, or that they can‘t afford it. Again, relatable.. but much deeper issues that are not about and go way beyond the parts I ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Find relatable. So listen & learn, and not just think ‘oh yea, my grandfather too…same‘ (edited) 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa The other was about the current case against Fani Willis, the DA in a case against Trump for election interference that now is on trial for improperly dating the prosecutor. Someone had posted a link to an article on it on an earlier thread for this book, but the initial..‘yea, women are judged different…same‘ thought, needed to give way to the others discussing how hard it is for Black Women especially and especially on this case. ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ some of the allegation was financial benefit… but this show talked about how the Doxing and threats started very early on because of that other case, which means she often paid in cash for things, just so people couldn‘t track her to stalk her/picket her/protest her/or worse…and even her father testifying how he taught her from a young age to keep a safe box and keep cash, because you never knew when your money could be kept or taken from you⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ your cards not accepted here, just because. He was very interesting to listen to. So again, so many more factors than you realize at first glance….if you listen long enough and pay attention. 4mo

DebinHawaii @staci.reads I love how you put this. It‘s how I felt about this section too. 4mo

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You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Bren� Brown, Tarana Burke

Hello #SheSaid!

I hope you are having a good weekend and enjoying these essays by different authors. Some are so very powerful and relatable.

See you in the comments!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Anyone else thinking of adding Brené Brown to their reading list…as a bunch of essays refer to her work/writing. (edited) 4mo

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I Thought It Was Just Me: Women Reclaiming Power and Courage in a Culture of Shame

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CatLass007 Brene Brown has been on my radar for the last several months. Because of this book she‘s moved way up on my priority list. If anyone is familiar with her writing, I‘d love some guidance about to read first. 4mo

willaful I'm really enjoying the essays. As a fat woman, I relate a lot to the mistrust around medical care, and I enjoyed the free use of the word “crazy,“ because I've trained myself not to use terms other people find disparaging but honestly, crazy is a really meaningful word. 4mo

Singout I‘m totally behind, but as a Christian could totally relate to “Love Lifted Me” Not so much from the experience of personal shame, but the description of how Christian cultural groups can have a huge influence on members of their community. The last few sentences about how much better we could do really inspired me. 4mo

DebinHawaii @CatLass007 I would start with either The Gifts of Imperfection or Daring Greatly although I am working my way through Atlas of the Heart right now & it‘s also very good. 4mo

DebinHawaii I am enjoying the essays as well. I thought Marc Lamont Hill‘s point was very powerful: “It‘s not enough for me to just not be homophobic. I cannot be friends with homophobes. I have to actually be willing to divest myself from relationships that are unhealthy. We all do.” And I really liked The Blues of Vulnerability” too—about making the space to listen to younger people as how we transform & change the world. 4mo

CatLass007 @DebinHawaii Thank you.😘 I know there are many who think we shouldn‘t end friendships for “political” reasons. But I have divested myself from relationships because of moral reasons. It‘s not easy but do I really want to be friends with the cousin who thinks that Abraham Lincoln shouldn‘t have started the Civil War and he ruined the country? (edited) 4mo

staci.reads @CatLass007 I would recommend Dare to Lead as well 4mo

CatLass007 @staci.reads Thank you! 4mo

staci.reads In Love Lifted Me, I highlighted "And the sad part is, some of us have so internalized such a skewed and distorted version of our faith tradition that we perpetuate this kind of emotional and spiritual violence on other women. To the point where men no longer have to be the enactors." Across the board, women have to be better at not harming other women with our internalized patriarchial biases. 4mo

staci.reads I also appreciated Marc Lamotte Hill calling out men's "expressions of masculine rage" as emotion too and calling out that double standard, highlighting that "as long as our only legible emotion is anger, we are never shamed like women are for their emotions." 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii Yes! It took me a long time to get there, especially with relatives that I for some reason thought I could not cut out…but eventually I realized that being quiet made them think I agreed, and pushing back with facts did no good, so not hanging around them was the best for all involved. They can be close-minded and bitter without me, I don‘t need it in my life. 🤷‍♀️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Yes, I‘m finding a lot of this relatable as just a woman myself…not to mention all the other labels people seem to discriminate against. 4mo

willaful @staci.reads Oh very true. Women can be excellent tools of the patriarchy. 4mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa That‘s a very brave thing for you to do. If you divest yourself from a family member, are any other family members going to push back and tell you you‘re making the wrong decision? It‘s something that can really be painful. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I think my family has some very deeply divided lines, and for years liberal lefties and national security conservatives could at least see what each meant, agreed on some things, agreed to disagree on others, but very civil. I think Trump pushed all that and changed how people converse about them. He destroyed the middle group issues, and encouraged everyone to be as uncivil in their discussions as possible. People I use to have⤵️ 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ crazy holiday conversations with and just shake my head after… now you can not engage in conversation at all. Because it is all their way or nothing, no discussion, and the amount of misinformation and now outright Russian propaganda they are starting to parrot is hard to meet them halfway on. Could I meet you halfway and say we both have good points about military spending verses domestic spending…sure. Can I meet you halfway about ⤵️ 4mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Trump has done so much to harm our country and if he gets elected, he will have a scorched earth effect. He loves the drama and the chaos because he‘s got people jumping through his hoops. It really is a circus. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ funding for Ukraine, or women‘s rights, or geez…even Bill Cosby… no, I can not. You want to think all umpteen accusers were all lying for publicity and are happy he got out on a technicality when he admitted he did it. I could agree the law messed up that case, but not that he was innocent 🙄. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 yes it is 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa And sadly for me it highlighted very serious flaws in their thinking and reasoning, and how they truly feel about and treat other human beings. Basically unleashed their more racist, homophobia, Muslim, Jewish, women hating selves (whatever trump is on that week)…and I‘m not ok with that. It feels like it‘s devolved into Hate, just for Hate‘s sake. And again, whatever he says is the “truth”. 4mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I was skeptical of the accusations against Bill Cosby. I grew up with Bill Cosby, starting with Fat Albert and moving on to Jell-O pudding and The Cosby Show. I couldn‘t understand how he and Phylicia Rashad managed to make two tv shows together. How did she manage to avoid being another woman he‘d assaulted? How did she not know what was going on? But I watched the Amazon Prime Documentary and I finally got it. His (cont) 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 Did you see Jimmy Kimmel interviews with Trump supporters where he changed the names from Trump to Biden and got totally different answers 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I loved Picture Pages 4mo

CatLass007 ability to create such a realistic facade. Realistic to millions and to the people closest to him. 4mo

CatLass007 I don‘t watch late night tv. Although if a clip shows up on my news feed, I sometimes watch it. I may look this one up. 4mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Picture Pages? I was just thinking that Trump doesn‘t even bother to build a facade. The ugliness and vileness inside him are on full display. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/debate-and-switch-jimmy-kimmel-gets-trump... 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 picture Pages was another thing Cosby did when I was little along with Fat Albert 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I‘ll attach a clip here ⤴️ for Kimmel (edited) 4mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Wow, I don‘t remember Picture Pages at all. Thinks for the Kimmel link. 4mo

CatLass007 Oh, good lord! People are so, not just hypocritical, but gullible, to excuse Trump‘s behavior. I don‘t know in what part of the country in which you live, but I live in East Tennessee and the area is about as red as it gets. In past presidential elections one precinct only voted blue and there‘s a good sized university there. I‘ve been fortunate to make a few friends who are liberal/progressive. 4mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I‘m in the middle of Pennsylvania… and it‘s rural and deep red too. 4mo

CatLass007 I saw an election map of Tennessee. I can‘t find the picture but in West Tennessee (where Memphis is located) it‘s solid blue and as the colors move from west to east they fade to purple (around Nashville) to solid blue, which is where I live. Oy. 4mo

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You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Bren� Brown, Tarana Burke

Hello #SheSaid!

I hope your weekend is going well….and I hope you are all enjoying this one. See you in the comments ⤵️

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 @CatLass007 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 (edited) 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m “liking” this book. It can be raw, but I really appreciate that. Sometimes the things we keep to ourselves to be strong, are the things we need to share to be human. 5mo

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CatLass007 This is a book I would encourage any Black woman to read. I would encourage anyone who has experienced trauma and has experienced shame because of the trauma, to read it. And probably people who provide therapy or counseling. (edited) 5mo

staci.reads This has been a great read so far. "We often carry our trama in similar ways, but the roads that led us to the trauma are all so different. We must pay attention to that road. That road is our humanity." What a great passage to help introduce the purpose of the collection of essays! 5mo

staci.reads I loved Jason Reynolds's essay. The parallel stories of his grandfather and his mother's hospitalizations and the oak tree metaphors really worked for me. His mother sounds like an amazing woman. 5mo

staci.reads I really connected with Channing Brown's essay, too. The discussion of "foreboding joy" felt personal to me, but the next level, the increased awareness the "level of apprehension" [for Black people] "that isn't wrought from an uneasy feeling of undeservedness, but from the knowledge that racism is a silent stalker always willing to wring joy from our lives." Just powerfully stated. 5mo

staci.reads Hemphill's piece was filled with highlights for me as well. "It is necessary for your safety that you've know what this world finds dangerous about you." "This country has made a practice of denying the existence of trauma in Black bodies and communities and also denying its own role, ultimately, in traumatizing us." Just a couple that stood out. 5mo

DebinHawaii @staci.reads I wrote down that quote on trauma & the roads that led us there too. Very powerful. 5mo

DebinHawaii Having read a lot of Brene‘ Brown, her concept of “foreboding joy” has always resonated with me so I found Channing Brown‘s essay especially powerful. 5mo

DebinHawaii @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I am liking it too. Very powerful and raw. 5mo

Singout I started this two weeks ago, and I‘m listening to it as audios, so it‘s to remember what came from which author, but I am really finding it valuable. Laymon really resonated with me; I found the last one in the set important, but a bit too dense to follow in audio. I loved the passionate and honest dialogue between Tarana Burke and Brené Brown at the beginning. 5mo

CatLass007 I like the introduction to new-to-me writers. I‘ve added several to my Audible wish list and now that I have my new glasses I‘m thinking about which books would work better in print. The authors have put a lot of “bang” into these brief essays. 5mo

MallenNC I am liking this one too. I haven‘t ever actually read Brene Brown (no reason, I just haven‘t) and was kind of curious about her involvement here so I‘m glad she and Tarana Burke included their conversation in the intro. 5mo

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You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience | Bren� Brown, Tarana Burke

Up Next for #SheSaid!

Put in your library holds and interlibrary loans!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🙏 5mo

AllDebooks I'm going to skip this one as I can't get hold of a copy. Please keep me on the taglist tho. 5mo

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DebinHawaii I put it on hold at my library so 🤞🏼 it comes in! 5mo

CatLass007 Please add me to your tag list. I‘ve already got my book and look forward to reading and discussing this with a new group of Littens. I decided to read more nonfiction this year so I‘m signed up for this, #NaturaLitsy2024, and I am pouring over the Bingo card for #Nonfiction2024. Then I looked on Goodreads and discovered I read more nonfiction than I realized in 2023. Now I‘m even more excited to do the two buddy reads and the Bingo challenge. 5mo

Singout Just started last night: excellent insights! 5mo

staci.reads The Kindle version of this is $4.99 right now. I just got my first Kindle a few days ago, so I was excited to make this one of my first downloads! 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @staci.reads Excellent! I got mine from the library, but might just buy it. I‘m liking this one so far. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks & @DebinHawaii On sale on kindle $4.99 if you are interested (edited) 5mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa What time of day do you usually post discussion questions? Do you tag the group on all or any of the questions? 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 yes, I post the tag list every time. And it‘s usually between noon & 1pm East Coast US time. But sometimes it‘s off depending on my weekend plans. 5mo

CatLass007 Great! Thank you. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 You‘re welcome 5mo

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Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the Greatest Scientific Problem of His Time

Glass Universe: How the Ladies of the Harvard Observatory Took the Measure of the Stars | Dava Sobel

Hello #SheSaid!

Sorry for the day late post!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 5mo

Bookwormjillk Sorry Melissa, I bailed on this one. I really wanted to like it! 5mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sorry again for the late post, it‘s been a long January for me. I‘ll be so glad for February. Anyone still plugging along with this book? Finding any kernels to enjoy? 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk Yes, it sounds like you weren‘t alone there. Sorry I couldn‘t be on the journey either with you on this one to encourage or commiserate either. 5mo

AllDebooks I'm late to start. I liked the 1st chapter. I'll keep going as I really enjoyed Sobel's

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks I haven‘t started it yet… long month here 🤷‍♀️ 5mo

AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa oh dear.I hope you have some time to yourself soon x 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks Thank you. I hope so too. Moved my nephew and his girlfriend into my house this month. They are both going to college full time and working full time and were still struggling with rent. Rents are crazy here and their apartment wasn‘t even nice. Then we lost power for a few days with a storm, had frozen pipes to deal with after, and then I came down with Covid.😂 crazy long month. Now just need to help put away all their stuff 😉 5mo

AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa yikes, that is full-on. How kind of you to take them in. X 5mo

Bookwormjillk @Riveted_Reader_Melissa yikes, hope it gets easier next month! 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk It will. It was just a crazy one this month.😂 5mo

Smrloomis Wow, hope everyone is finally getting some rest. It‘s tough to study full-time and work full-time too! Rent is insanely high where I live too so I‘m sure they appreciate you taking them in! 5mo

vlwelser I still haven't finished part 2. I'm also recovering from covid. And my company laid off 1650 employees on Friday. One was a direct report. One was a former manager. It's a lot. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser That is a lot, very emotional and heavy…and worse when you are sick on top of everything else. I hope you start feeling well soon, and that everyone you care about and all the others find good work soon 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa That is just so many employees. 5mo

ShelleyBooksie @Riveted_Reader_Melissa - are you doing a 2024 non fiction bingo? 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ShelleyBooksie yes, just look under #Nonfiction2024 add template to the end for the blank card 5mo

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Glass Universe: How the Ladies of the Harvard Observatory Took the Measure of the Stars | Dava Sobel

Hello #SheSaid!

How is everyone doing this weekend? Read picking up any for you? I‘m going to have to skip this one for now and circle back later… moving my nephew and his girlfriend into my house right now so quiet reading time has disappeared for awhile. Hopefully it will settle down again soon and I can catch up again.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 5mo

vlwelser I'm definitely not finished with part 2 yet. It's interesting but it's also quite boring. It's like a list of activities mare than anything else. Like the author took the facts and added in bits of correspondence. But that 5mo

vlwelser Oops... Is all there is to this. I bet it took an absurd amount of time. A for effort? 5mo

Bookwormjillk I‘m still struggling with this one. I was looking for an audiobook version, but my library doesn‘t have it. I‘ll see how far I can get on kindle tonight. It‘s a shame because the history of science particularly astronomy and physics is one of my favorite subjects, but there just doesn‘t seem to be enough here to make a book. 5mo

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Glass Universe: How the Ladies of the Harvard Observatory Took the Measure of the Stars | Dava Sobel

Hello #SheSaid!

Very late post! Sorry I got way behind…. How are you liking this one so far? Please post when you can, sorry I missed Sunday.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa For some reason I remembered this one was 3 parts, and in my mind it was skipping the first Sunday, then 3 weeks. So sorry 6mo

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Bookwormjillk Looking through Litsy I saw I had started this one and bailed once before. It's holding my interest so far this time, but I'm hoping part 2 focuses more on the ladies. 6mo

willaful I read chapter one and just couldn't follow it so I'm not going to continue with the read this month. :-( (edited) 6mo

DebinHawaii I am struggling a bit with it keeping my interest. I made it only through the first 3 chapters this week, but I am going to try to power through before next Saturday & see if I like it better. 6mo

vlwelser I thought it was interesting. It may be a little dry. But I just read a chapter here and there. 6mo

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Colorstrology: What Your Birthday Color Says about You | Michele Bernhardt

#Pantone2023 card too for last year, it‘s also not finished… oops 😂…. I blame way to much Zelda this past year! @Clwojick

Clwojick Great job! Thank you for participating!
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Nonfiction Matters: Reading, Writing, and Research in Grades 3-8 | Stephanie Harvey

My end of the year #Nonfiction2023! Not a complete card, but boy some great books in there!

And I can see I‘m way WAY behind on reviews 😂. New Years Resolution, go back to reviewing right after I finish or I won‘t get back to it. 🤣

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Nonfiction Matters: Reading, Writing, and Research in Grades 3-8 | Stephanie Harvey

#Nonfiction2024 is here! And it‘s a big challenge this year.

First, these are not the books you need to read…although if you haven‘t read them, I encourage you to read them.

These are banned books, and they are banned for subject matter they contain that we find objectionable for some reason.

Your challenge is to read a nonfiction book about a similar subject:
Examples below⤵️

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Harry Potter “promotes witchcraft”… maybe a nonfiction book about witches or Salem, too dark for you…maybe a book about Wiccan beliefs. Or go a different direction, a book with an orphan.
~ Reading about anything helps us understand and understanding & empathy diffuses fear.
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ So take these the way you want…a nonfiction about the core subject, or a tangential connection… not feeling like diving into the tough topics in some books… that‘s ok too….we all need a break from tough topics sometimes too. Maybe instead of diving into topics from Kafka on the Shore, an uplifting book about marine life. A book that includes the Shore, etc 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Maus… you could go into the history it tries to impart, but if that‘s to heavy, maybe a great book about graphic novel writing, or a something about cats and/or mice. 6mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ As always, your choice! Make it fun for you! Be as creative as you want with your choices…..And tag us as you go! (We all need more suggestions) (edited) 6mo

ChaoticMissAdventures This is a fabulous idea!! I didn't read as much nonfiction as I wanted in 2023 so I need this! 6mo

youneverarrived Amazing idea! 🖤 Looking forward to joining in! 6mo

Deblovestoread Challenge accepted! Love this! ❤️💚❤️ 6mo

AnneCecilie Love this idea. I see several books I haven‘t read and want to read, so I might take this challenge literal. 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AnneCecilie I‘m the same…for some I‘ll probably read the banned book and then a nonfiction book. And as few are non-fiction books, so they could count as themselves too. 😉 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ChaoticMissAdventures @AnnCecilie @youneverarrived and @Deblovestoread Welcome! I try to come up with a theme and board each year. You can just go for bingo or we have a few over-achievers that go for coverall. It‘s all up to what works best for you. Enjoy and have fun with your choices! 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa #LitsyHappenings @LitsyHappenings #NonfictionMatters (edited) 6mo

Larkken Interesting! Saving to look into later. Thank you ☺️ 6mo

Singout Thank you! This looks like a really cool structure. And it‘s year five for me! 6mo

peanutnine Wow I love this concept! Excited to take part again in 2024! I read much more nonfiction this year and I'd like to continue. Thanks for putting this together ☺️ 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout & @peanutnine You‘re welcome! This year‘s theme came to me much easier than some years….but then again, it has been a year with a lot of new book banning. 🫤 (edited) 6mo

Amiable Oh, how I love this nonfiction bingo challenge! My brain is already in overdrive trying to think of matches. Thanks! 6mo

Zuhkeeyah I love this year‘s theme! 6mo

Zuhkeeyah Should I make a Storygraph challenge for this year‘s prompts? (It was helpful for me when tracking progress on this year‘s caustic theme.) 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Zuhkeeyah if you want to, you definitely can! I am not on Storygraph, but anywhere you want to share it is fine with me. 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Maybe I should check out Storygraph 6mo

willaful Great concept! I've was just thinking today that I really should listen to the audiobook of Born a Crime, so I'll probably do that one literally. 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful That‘s fine too, a few are nonfiction so totally works. And that‘s a really good one. 6mo

willaful @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I read it in print and enjoyed it very much, and then my daughter's high school class listened to the audiobook and it sounded like so much fun, I've been meaning to do it. (I love that for today's kids!) 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful He reads it himself, and being a comedian… he can make even tense things funny when he tells them. 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Not all books are good as audiobooks, but some like that one are even better because of the Narration. 6mo

Liz_M @LitsyEvents 6mo

kspenmoll Wow. I am proud that I have read all but 3 on the bingo board. It‘s hard to fathom these books are banned in places. Especially Florida… 5mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Will you please add me to your tag list? Is there a tag list? 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I do not have a tag list, sorry. I just tag the #Nonfiction2024 and then anyone can search by it. 5mo

CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Okay. Thanks. I thought that might be the case. It‘s very sad and more than a little bit scary that the number of banned books is even higher than the books on your Bingo card. 5mo

CatLass007 I‘ve had Born A Crime in my Audible library since not long after it was released. Sometimes I need a little extra incentive to listen to any given book. 5mo

CatLass007 You indicated in your post that there were examples of pairings, but I can‘t find the examples. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 if you open the comments, they were like the first couple comments under the post 5mo

CatLass007 Thank you. For some reason I wasn‘t able to find them before and it took me a minute just now. 5mo

CatLass007 I feel like I‘m being a nuisance but I‘ve never done this challenge before. Or any challenge for that matter. I understand the challenge and I‘m very excited about it. But I have no idea how to put a picture of a book I‘ve read on the Bingo card. Make sense? Do you use an app like PicCollage? If that‘s the particular app I need to use, I‘m screwed, because I don‘t find it intuitive at all. Any advice you can provide would be appreciated. (cont)⬇️ 5mo

CatLass007 I hate to be one of those people who needs handholding to perform a task that others find as easy as pie. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 You are fine! First rule, there are no bad questions! If we don‘t ask, we can‘t learn anything new. I take a screenshot of the book cover, usually on Goodreads, crop it as a photo so it‘s just the cover, then use a free app called GoDaddy Studio (formerly Over), that just lets me layer 1 picture overtop the other. I‘m sure there are many others that do the same. 5mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 and it‘s only easy as pie once you played with it once or twice. 5mo

CatLass007 Thank you. I appreciate your information and encouragement. 5mo

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Glass Universe: How the Ladies of the Harvard Observatory Took the Measure of the Stars | Dava Sobel

Up Next for #SheSaid!

Put in your library holds and inter-library loans for January….and until then, Happy Holidays!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 6mo

vlwelser Are we doing this one? Are you ok over there? 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes! I‘m so sorry 😂 6mo

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The Memory Police: A Novel | Yoko Ogawa

Hello #SheSaid!

Can‘t wait to discuss this in the comments!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 6mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I will admit, I was initially disappointed by the ending, even though it was the ending I did not want, but sort of expected. But!!!! As an allegory for how a community can self police and non-conformers to the new “way” can hide “illegal” things and eventually be hidden themselves…was so good for a look at how fascism states grow and thrive as everyone conforms that wants to fit-in, that they eventually throw their own things away, burn ⤵️ (edited) 6mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ burn them, and a few hide and treasure them but are then hunted as criminals for that resistance. But as they conform and give in, they really lose pieces of themselves and fade, every time they go “that‘s just the way it is” and allow more and more to be wiped away, intentionally not talked or thought about, no longer mentioned or discussed…they fade further themselves into the background. (edited) 6mo

MallenNC I just finished this today so I‘m still thinking about what I got from it. I also wanted to know Why? this was happening but I had prepared myself to not get answers. I agree with your take. I also think it was saying as everyone accepted losing more and more, eventually they lost themselves all together. I‘d love to read about the story within the story and how it parallels what‘s happening in her world. 6mo

MallenNC I‘m glad to have read this. It‘s different from what I typically read for sure. 6mo

DebinHawaii I am still unpacking this one as well. It wasn‘t the ending I wanted either but the writing is beautiful & your point about being an allegory for fascism & conformity is spot on. And also the losing of one‘s self as @MallenNC said. 6mo

MallenNC @DebinHawaii I wanted to know why it was happening but I don‘t think any reason the author provided would have worked completely so I‘m coming around to that. I may read or listen to this one again, which I don‘t do a lot. Just to see what connections I can make on a second time around. 6mo

mhillis I read this book back in 2020, and at that time, this article really got me thinking https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/memory-police-ogawa-coronavirus-social-distanc... 6mo

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The Memory Police: A Novel | Yoko Ogawa

Hello #SheSaid!

I don‘t know about you, but the more they all forget, the more questions I have come to mind… I‘m really curious where and how this story will end!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

MallenNC I‘m liking this book even though I‘m prepared to be frustrated at the end. I want to know why this disappearance/forgetting is happening. What are the people in charge trying to do here? But it‘s got me hooked. 7mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC Same! Will they all just forget themselves and everything and disappear 🤷‍♀️ Is it really something on the island only and the police are trying to contain it from spreading and therefore interested in the genes of those that don‘t forget and studying them while not letting others leave 🤷‍♀️. I can not figure it out yet…. But that‘s a good thing too sometimes. Sometimes predictable is boring 😂 7mo

MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I definitely cannot figure it out. I don‘t read a lot of speculative fiction so I can‘t guess. It‘s an interesting concept for sure. And now there‘s the story within the story from the MC‘s book, which is also trying to tell us something I‘m sure. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC Yes, all her books are about disappearing things too… so very interesting. And now she is talking about how her houseguest is “fading” too. It‘s hard to say to much without giving anything away to those further behind in the book. 7mo

MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa yes! I don‘t want to spoil either. 7mo

DebinHawaii It‘s very intriguing for sure. I am hoping at the end it does come together with some explanation but sometimes in speculative fiction you don‘t get that. 7mo

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The Memory Police: A Novel | Yoko Ogawa

Hello #SheSaid!

How are you “enjoying” our fiction this month? It‘s a nice change from non-fiction, but I‘m not sure enjoying is quite right. 😱 so far I‘m sucked into it though, very curious on where it‘s going next.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

Bookwormjillk I read this last December for #AuthorAMonth and you‘re right- enjoy isn‘t the word. But I did find it fascinating. 7mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I liked the set up, and the slow build, despite being dystopian it‘s an easy read and page turner. Sometimes the international novels (just like foreign films) for me are so interesting because it‘s not the same idea/formalaic/predictable course you‘ve see a bunch before, they take things in a different way. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk fascinating is a good word. 7mo

vlwelser I already read this last year but I'm going to spy on you all if that's ok. 🤗😘 7mo

MallenNC This is different than what I usually read but I am liking it. It took me a couple of tries to really start reading it but now I want to know what happens. This week‘s section ended in a good place — it seems like the story is really getting started at that point. 7mo

monkeygirlsmama Intrigued by the synopsis. Stacking this! 7mo

DebinHawaii I agree with the fascinating part & yes, it‘s hard to say “enjoy” about a dystopian story but it is definitely drawing me in & making me think & ask lots of questions already. 7mo

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The Memory Police: A Novel | Yoko Ogawa

Up Next #SheSaid!

Sorry for the late schedule post!

Are we ready for some fiction?

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

DebinHawaii I bought this one the other day at my indie bookstore. Looking forward to reading it! 7mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii Perfect timing! 7mo

willaful I can't find it at the library, so I guess I'll skip this month. 7mo

Smrloomis I really liked this one so hope everyone else likes it too!! 7mo

KathyWheeler I‘ve already read this one. I probably won‘t reread it since it wasn‘t that long ago but I‘ll try to join the discussion. 7mo

Catsandbooks @LitsyEvents 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Interlibrary loans are great, it might not work out for this one, but it‘s a great service you could try in the future if you‘ve never tried it before, I highly recommend. 7mo

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Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do | Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD

Hello #SheSaid! Sorry for the late post, got distracted with the family this long holiday weekend here in the US. I hope you all are having a great weekend wherever you are AND enjoying the end of this book.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I liked this one, I know a few of you found it repetitive with things we‘ve read previously, but I still felt like I got something from it. I liked the mix of stories, personal antedates, studies, and how she brought it all together. For me, how our unconscious brain works and developed through evolution to other outside groups as dangerous in ways we don‘t even realize was new, and knowing makes it easier to question those instincts. ⤵️ (edited) 7mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ so for me, still insightful beyond the history of how it came about as a tool of imperialism and colonialism and economic gain & labor windfall…. That biological part was still interesting, & to me, important for how so many went along for so long and still do with easy superficial categorization & prejudices. All that fake science, inferiority of the other, justification history… when some of the glitch is in our own mental processing. 7mo

willaful The perspectives from people who'd been present during the Charlottesville rally was really interesting to me. But I was uncomfortable with the many, unquestioned, instances of white people burdening black people with their guilty feelings. The author is really a lot more middle-of-the-road than I am. 😂 7mo

Julsmarshall I didn‘t get to this one, but I hope to in the future. Thanks for sharing your perspectives, all! 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Yes! I found myself wondering if that was the scientist in her or the I want this to be read & relatable to a white public so tilt it their way objective. 🤷‍♀️. Funny how the more you read, the more you think about those kinds of angles. 7mo

willaful Yes, I don't know if it was deliberate but I can definitely see her “sandwiching“ the less palatable sections between an easier beginning and ending. 7mo

vlwelser Ultimately I really liked this because it was very readable. That chapter on Charlottesville was very interesting. I liked that the people she interviewed came from diverse backgrounds. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Yes, some of that might have been editing somewhere, I‘m always curious about some of that and where those choices come in. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Julsmarshall Get to it when you can if you want, sometimes it‘s all in reading it at the right time for you. 7mo

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Wild: From Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail

Nonfiction Matters: Reading, Writing, and Research in Grades 3-8 | Stephanie Harvey

Hello #SheSaid! Here‘s our schedule for the rest of the year AND Nominations Are Open for the rest of next year!

Please add your nominations to the comments section!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m going to reread Wild by Cheryl Stayed in the near future, if anyone else is interested, we could read together.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I really found Kate Manne‘s Down Girl interesting, but I still haven‘t picked up the next book Entitled.

Entitled: How Male Privilege Hurts Women

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AllDebooks Hmm🤔 Anything by Cordelia Fine such as Testerone Rex, Delusions of gender, A mind of its own; Everybody by Olivua Laing, Hagitude by Sharon Blackie,

Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World

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Bookwormjillk I read (and enjoyed) the Memory Police but count me in to the rest. I‘ll start reserving books now so I can interact more with the discussions next year. 7mo

willaful @AllDebooks I'm listening to Doppelganger, it's amazing. 7mo

AllDebooks @willaful I adore Naomi Klein, she's so good 7mo

vlwelser Doppelganger and Wild both get my vote. 7mo

Deblovestoread Please remove me from your tag list. I might pop in if you read I book I already own. 2024 is the challenge of filling prompts with owned books for me. 7mo

Singout My rather long to-read list includes Highway of Tears, Sitting Pretty, Unsettling Spirit, People Love Dead Jews, In Defense of Witches, Run Towards the Danger, The Future Is Disabled. 7mo

Becoming a Matriarch

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Woman on the Edge of Time

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Eyeliner: A Cultural History

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The Race to Be Myself: A Memoir

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Badass Feminist Politics: Exploring Radical Edges of Feminist Theory, Communication, and Activism

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MallenNC I hope to keep up with our picks in 2024! A suggestion is

Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America's Revolutions

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BookBosomed1

How to Say Babylon

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KathyWheeler I am having a real problem reading that font. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler I changed it…better? 7mo

KathyWheeler @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Much! Thank you! 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler You‘re welcome 7mo

Out of the Sun: On Race and Storytelling

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Girl Gurl Grrrl: On Womanhood and Belonging in the Age of Black Girl Magic

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Real Queer America: LGBT Stories from Red States

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Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality

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Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America's Revolutions

Rehearsals for Living

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TheKidUpstairs This one sounds great too, one of NPR's Books of the Year

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MallenNC @TheKidUpstairs I suggested that one too. It sounds great for us! 7mo

MallenNC I don‘t know if there‘s still time to nominate but this one sounds really interesting

Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World

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Unwell Women: A Journey Through Medicine And Myth in a Man-Made World

Unbowed: A Memoir

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staci.reads I don't know if nominations are still open, but I just heard about this one.

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staci.reads This also looks good

Six: The Untold Story of America's First Women Astronauts

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 here it is 3mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I put all these on the questionnaire and a few others people tagged me in or mentioned elsewhere and a few on my own pile 3mo

CatLass007 Oh. Well that was fast. Thank you. 3mo

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Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do | Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD

Hello #SheSaid! How are you doing this week?

See you in the comments 😉

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m all caught up this week 😂. How is everyone else doing? I saw a great show on This Week with John Oliver on YouTube (it was old, but I saw it this week). I‘ll post it below for an easy copy & paste. It was about AI, but how we are programming our biases into it …seemed so relevant with this book that it stuck with me. (edited) 7mo

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AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa that is an interesting piece from John Oliver. I have to say that reading this book has made me take a step back and think about my own biases. It's a good read, but I do find it repetitive 7mo

vlwelser @AllDebooks is it repetitive itself or repetitive because we already read a lot of these books? 7mo

vlwelser I love that she tells these stories that we are already familiar with through her own lens and brings new perspective to this. But this isn't exactly ground breaking. I like that it's incredibly easy to read. The chapters are long but I don't feel bored. 7mo

AllDebooks @vlwelser I find her writing repetitive, labouring over the same points. It could have been a much shorter book with a good edit. I don't mind repeated topics in books at all. Another's pov could always bring a new perspective. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks @vlwelser I think some of it is because the book originally came out in 2019, and if we had read it then it would have been very new… but we‘ve read others written since then covering similar ground. Despite all of that though, I‘m still finding some of the studies and insights informative. Just the little studies of writing critiques differently, with a change in the post-it note example…and how that fed down through work and ⤵️ 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ perception and outcomes. Such small changes that you think mean little, can produce such big dividends. 7mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Sone of those studies I‘m still finding very interesting, and somewhat hopeful that our little things do (can) make a difference, especially in a world where you feel like your little part doesn‘t amount to much so some people go why bother 7mo

willaful It's actually making me think about my biases in a different direction. 😲 For example, when she talked to the administrator who started to cry, my immediate reaction was “oh great, white woman tears!“ But the administrator genuinely learned from the situation and sought to change. 7mo

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Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do | Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD

Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m a bit behind, please feel free to start without me, and I‘ll check back later today when I catch up 🤷‍♀️ So sorry….my Saturday reading time disappeared yesterday somehow.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 8mo

vlwelser I don't know if I'm more horrified by the Boston thing or the ape thing. But her class at the prison made me hopeful. 8mo

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vlwelser This is really well written but nothing so far has exactly blown my mind. It sort of reaffirms things we already know or have already read about. 8mo

AllDebooks @vlwelser I agree, although I was surprised about the facial recognition facts. I do find some areas repetitive at times. 8mo

willaful I was more engaged with this section than the first chapters. I felt like she was finally getting into some of the nitty gritty that it seemed like she'd been pussy-footing around. Perhaps to ease people into what she has to say?

The prison class section I thought was pretty powerful. Really gives a sense of how much people *lose* from being incarcerated that the bald facts don't convey. 8mo

willaful I'm also currently reading Let This Radicalize You, which has a chapter on how people organize and provide mutual aid in prison. It makes a really good companion read to this. 8mo

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Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do | Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD

Hello #SheSaid!

I wasn‘t sure how this one would be, super dense studies and theory, or more readable?

I‘m finding it a great mix of both, very readable, but with studies and great examples to back up the concepts to make it easy to understand.

How‘s everyone else doing with our newest selection?

And how about that question/conversation with her son… heartbreaker 😞

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 😉 8mo

vlwelser This is very interesting. Both stories about her sons are so interesting. Especially from the perspective of a bias researcher with black sons. Our society is kind of a mess. This is so readable. Even the boring study parts. 8mo

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Becker This book has been recommended to me on several occasions. Maybe it‘s time to pick it up! 8mo

Singout Yes, the story about her small son recognizing “fear” in White people went right to the gut. I found the opening parts about physical differences in the brains of people who‘ve had different experiences intriguing too. 8mo

MallenNC I got this late from the library so I‘ve only read the introduction so far. I‘m interested in what she‘s going to cover so I hope I‘ll be able to catch up this week. 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser Yes! We are such a mess…and that messiness seems to be boiling to the surface more and more 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Becker Time to read with us! It‘s very good so far, and not very long or difficult to read. 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout Yes! And the one in the beginning, about asking if the black guy on their trip…he looked like daddy, but was he there to rob. Those things are such opposites and so telling especially when coming from an innocent child whose perception is all what we as a society have put in there. So heartbreaking to me. 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout Yes, I found it interesting that beliefs about if people were set in their ways or could change, effected how their brain processed faces. Very interesting that no matter how much is baked in, some is our individual openess verses closed off. (edited) 8mo

willaful I was really interested in the section about how white actors respond negatively to black actors in shows, even when they're playing positive roles. I'd love to see more reaearch about that.

But the book is making me a bit uncomfortable... I guess because I'm more radical than the author, and like she does herself, wonder if the workshops she gives are of any use at all. I don't know if she has any info or statistics to back up her work. (edited) 8mo

AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa this is incredible. It's really making me think about how I or my children interact. And that's exactly the effect I would want. 8mo

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The Return of the King: Being the Third Part of the Lord of the Rings | J.R.R. Tolkien

My thought for the day: Tolkien does such a good job ending each book and internal book with cliffhangers. And making you wait through another whole internal book until you get back to that cliffhanger and those characters as he shifts focus back & forth. I couldn‘t help but think of a few authors now, who have left series uncompleted because they got busy with TV show adaptions or prequel series or real life. ⤵️

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Just imagine if Tolkien had gotten busy and never wrote Return of the King, left Frodo where he lay…. or just left it hanging at the Black Gate. And he wrote through some very trying times too: World Wars, not to mention paper shortages, to name a few. In many ways we are very lucky that he persevered to finish this trilogy, so we can still be reading & enjoying it today. 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa #FellowshipOfTheRing #LOTRChapterADay @Daisey @JazzFeathers @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN @tdrosebud and sorry, I know I‘m missing one of our original group from way back…sorry 8mo

BookwormAHN If you have ever watched the cartoon version of the Lord of The Rings, it ends around the Two Towers so I can imagine and I agree how persistent he was and how lucky we are. 8mo

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JazzFeathers Cliffhanger is an art, in my opinion. I've seen it done very badly, where you think, 'Oh, come on! You really want to sell me the next book!' But Tolkien is different. He really built the story that way. I once heard that this is not the way to organise a story. I bag to dissent 😁 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers I was thinking of the big epics today, like Game of Thrones… which if left where it is and unfinished will basically cement it here forever, no carry over to future reading, etc. By leaving them unfinished, you are basically dooming them to be a one time read, and stuck. Whereas a great epic well done, a Tolkien, even a Harry Potter can be reread over generations. ↩️ (edited) 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa …a cliffhanger well done is a treasure and statement… it could go either way after that really, how can “even an author” get them out of that. And in some cases, I think their authors don‘t know either so don‘t finish. 🤷‍♀️ (edited) 8mo

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Journeys of Frodo: An Atlas of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings

The Return of the King: Being the Third Part of the Lord of the Rings | J.R.R. Tolkien

Post 2: The text to go with the map in post 1

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Journeys of Frodo: An Atlas of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings

The Return of the King: Being the Third Part of the Lord of the Rings | J.R.R. Tolkien

I read the first chapter of the long ride to Gondor, and then I had to dig out my map book and share a few pictures. I‘m still amazed that someone plotted & mapped out the entire journey, but I love it.

Post 1: The map
See Post 2: The text

Riveted_Reader_Melissa #FellowshipofTolkien #LOTRChapterADay. Map and description from

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JazzFeathers You know, l realised something. Tolkien was a signaler during the war, and as such, he worked with maps and people moving on the ground. When we first read HoME l though, what? Scaled maps? Who knows how to do that? But then l realised it must have been quite familiar to him. 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers Another great connection! I love that we are still finding them after all this time. 8mo

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Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do | Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD

Up Next for #SheSaid in November!

Put in your library holds and interlibrary loans!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @tenar @vlwelser @KVanRead @SamAnne @Julsmarshall @arlenefinnigan @Chab256 @Scochrane26 @CoffeeK8. @MallenNC @DebinHawaii @Currey @Augustdana @Suet624 @Singout @mhillis @megnews @Jgotham @AnneCecilie @kspenmoll @staci.reads @AllDebooks @MilesnMelodies @Deblovestoread @willaful @psalva @Amor4Libros ⤵️ 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ @Smrloomis @KathyWheeler @Bookwormjillk @bibliobliss @JenlovesJT47 @Karisa @fredthemoose @Christine @mandarchy @rjsthumbelina @Tera66 @Megabooks @BookBosomed1 @MoonWitch94 @sabyym @ncsufoxes @Readergrrl @wanderinglynn @TheKidUpstairs @charl08 As always if anyone would like added or removed from this tag list, please just let me know. And if you asked and I forgot, please remind me. Thank you! 🫠 8mo

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The Two Towers: Being the Second Part of The Lord of the Rings | J.R.R. Tolkien

I‘m flipping around the tv this weekend & passed a show on cryptids… creatures that may be myth or real. I stopped immediately as they were showing Shelob on the screen at the time, then Aragog and discussing giant spiders and the stories passed down about this monster myth in stories by the locals for ages. Who knew Shelob descendants infested both Mirkwood & the Congo 🤷‍♀️😂 There are even grainy videos like with Sasquatch & Nessie. J‘ba Fofi😱

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers @Daisey @wordslinger42 @BookwormAHN 8mo

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @BookwormAHN Right! 😂 I‘d never heard of it before, but I‘d never want to meet that one. But I had to share, LOTR, Monster stories for Halloween 👻 8mo

JazzFeathers @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Oh, wow! Isn't it fascinating how some stories are common or similar in very different places of the world? There must be something there 🤔 @BookwormAHN 8mo

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JazzFeathers The human mind is really fascinating….. and scary 😂 8mo

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