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Riveted_Reader_Melissa

Riveted_Reader_Melissa

Joined April 2016

A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies… The man who never reads lives only one. ~George R.R. Martin.
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Up Next for February #SheSaid!

Put in your library holds and interlibrary loans!

I‘ll get the whole schedule up soon, but this book got more votes than any other, so it‘s up for February!

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It‘s time to decide what we want to read this year!

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CatLass007 Voted! 2w
AllDebooks Voted. Thank you for organising another year of great reads @Riveted_Reader_Melissa 2w
Bookwormjillk Voted, thank you! 2w
staci.reads Voted! 2w
vlwelser Voted! Thank you! 2w
Singout Voted and thanks from me too! 2w
ncsufoxes Voted (I picked at random because I would pick every book). I haven‘t read Herland since college. Hood Feminism is such a great book (intersectional feminism is essential for feminism to move forward). Looking forward to some good reading this year! 2w
MallenNC I voted! I picked books I already own or that my library seems likely to have. Looking forward to seeing what gets picked 2w
DGRachel Can‘t wait to see what‘s picked. Hoping I can participate more this year. 2w
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#Nonfiction2025 is here!

Around the world there seems to be unrest, division, and just generally unhappy populaces. So this year we will look at famous movements for change and of resistance, what drives people to push for change, why, and how.

🎶“Look what's happening out in the streets
Got a revolution, got to revolution”🎶

As always, this is a make it a way that works for you challenge, a little revolt is good for the soul after all ⤵️

Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ and we do not all need/want the same from our reading. So Bingo, Four Squares, Coverall…. Whatever works for you. And you can pick a book specifically about the topic, someone related to, or any lightly connected book you want. Examples Below ⤵️ (edited) 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Earth Day and Climate Change books are plentiful, you can also read about individuals in the movement from Greta Thunberg, to Al Gore, to Bill Nye, but you can also read about nature, the earth, etc. 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa March of the Mill Children was against Child Labor. Again, you can go straight to the topic, or a book that has children or about children, or a child‘s experience, or written by a child…there are some great books out there written by non-adults at the moment. 3w
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa You can be as creative as you like, if the topics bore you or pulls you down, use your imagination….not up for the People‘s Revolution… maybe Prince and the Revolution are more your mood. Please have fun with it. (edited) 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa If you need suggestions or to brainstorm ideas, just ask… the idea is to encourage a bit of nonfiction reading this year that‘s it. 3w
ncsufoxes I love these prompts. My reading fell off last year & I‘m hoping to get back into my usual groove. I‘m a big non fiction reader 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ncsufoxes I hope it helps you and inspires you to pick up a few nonfiction this year. (edited) 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @ncsufoxes my reading fell off really bad last year too, so I‘m also hoping to get my groove back 3w
Singout Yes, yes, yes! Thank you for doing this again amidst your busy life and thank you for these amazing prompts! 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout You‘re very welcome, now find good books! 3w
Deblovestoread I need this motivation to get to the NF on my shelf! 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Deblovestoread I hope it helps! We all need motivation sometimes 3w
Singout Not to be a nitpicker, but aren‘t the Singing Revolution and Baltic Way about the same thing? Unless there‘s another Singing Revolution than what comes up quickly in my search? 2w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout same movement, different styles & dates. I believe one was more like Hands Across America back in the day and one Singing specifically. So more options for odd connections too. So similar to both lunch counter sit-ins, bus boycotts, and marches in the Civil Rights movement. I thought they both provided great connections for other reading choices & connections. 2w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ my examples are definitely a give away that I am an American, sorry about that 🫠 2w
Singout You don't have to apologize for being American, we need as many Americans like you as we can get! *Looking nervously across Lake Ontario* 😬 2w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout 😂 I read my answer and thought, wow, that is a specific country history centric example list. 🫠 (edited) 2w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout there are a lot here, and we glance nervously around too. (edited) 2w
Lizpixie Thank you! There‘s been a lot of revolution in my country too, especially around women‘s rights and Indigenous rights. Not to mention the rest of the world. America is definitely not the only country that‘s had idiots in power.✊ 2w
MallenNC Thanks for doing this again! It will be interesting to see what I can match up with the prompts this time. Seems like a lot of options. 2w
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Hello #SheSaid! It‘s no secret that I have gotten behind this month while moving. So we do not have a book selected for January. So January will be our catch-up reading month (I need it to finish December‘s yet), and Voting for the books for 2025. I‘ll take all the nominations so far and get a Voting Poll up for you by the first. Sorry for the delay, and please enjoy your holidays and have a great New Year!

vlwelser 🤗😘 3w
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wanderinglynn Thank you for tagging me, but you can remove me. 2025 is going to be a crazy year for me and I‘m not going to be able to keep up. 😀 3w
Bookwormjillk Sounds good. I‘ll plan on reading Becoming A Matriarch in January and will email you when I‘m done. 3w
Singout Fair enough! Moving is *hard *. I‘m still working on Becoming a Matriarch! 3w
Singout Nominations: Ordinary Notes by Cristina Sharpe, We Were Feminists Once by Andi Zeisler, Ordinary Girls by Jaquira Diaz, Hijab Butch Blues by Lamya H, I Heard Her Call My Name by Lucy Sante, Ten Steps to Nanette by Hannah Gadsby, Bad Cree by Jessica Johns, Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hershey. (edited) 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @wanderinglynn will do, I hope it is a good one for you, and join back when ever you want. 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk Sounds good, thank you 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Singout I‘d say 90% of my physical books are moved now at least 😂. Need to move the rest and other odds and ends. I keep thinking I should slowly just buy more on kindle and not keep the physical ones… but then we get into book banning and who really has control of our digital content…and I think, maybe keep the physical books. 😂 3w
Lizpixie Will there be a Non Fiction Bingo in 2025? 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Lizpixie Yes there will, I‘m behind on posting that too though 😂 3w
Singout Oh, yay! 3w
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Hello #SheSaid!

If you have finished the book, discuss below, if not, please join when you can!

vlwelser Overall I thought this was an interesting look at female institutionalization. And not having power over your own person. But the time travel/utopia stuff was just sort of meh to me. Though I bet it was scandalous in the 70s. 3w
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m still very early in the book… but it is making me want to read Kindred again 😂 3w
MallenNC I finished! This book was not for me. The present day story was so bleak and unrelenting, and then I wasn‘t sure if the time travel parts were meant to be real or not. Like @vlwelser said, it probably hit readers differently when published. Speculative fiction is not my favorite anyway so others may enjoy it more. 3w
vlwelser Maybe add Kindred to your voting list? I haven't read it. 3w
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser it‘s a good time travel, and packs quit a punch. I‘ll add it to the voting. 3w
MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Kindred is very good! 3w
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Hello #SheSaid! Sorry for the day late post!

I hope you are all doing well and ready for this holiday season. Please visit the comments as you get caught up with this weeks section.

MallenNC I‘m not quite caught up but I did find the audiobook and I‘ve made a lot of progress. I‘m not really enjoying it! Everything is pretty bleak with the main character but I‘m hoping I understand what the author was going for when I get to the end. 4w
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vlwelser @MallenNC it is pretty bleak. I'm hoping to find out what the author is up to in this last section. 4w
MallenNC @vlwelser I think it feels especially bleak bc I‘m reading it among a bunch of holiday stories! 4w
vlwelser @MallenNC I don't really read holiday stories but it's not doing well against the fairy tales I've been hooked on lately 4w
MallenNC @vlwelser I don‘t typically but I decided to load up on them this year — some of them are mysteries so that balanced things a little 4w
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Hello #SheSaid!

How is the book going? I‘m way behind and still packing, but hoping to be on the other side soon and able to unwind with this book. So I hope it‘s a good one!

Bookwormjillk I still haven‘t started this one…but I will eventually! In the meantime I did receive last month‘s book from you and will read it soon. Thank you so much! 1mo
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vlwelser I'm reading this alone it seems 😂 serves me right for lurking while you all read the last one. The book is good even if it's a bit slow. 1mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwormjillk you are welcome, I‘m glad it arrived safely. Just let me know when you are ready to pass it on. No rush, holidays and all. 1mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I started it last night! So go me! U-Haul and big furniture goes tomorrow so hopefully I can be settled in enough to read this one before the end of the month 😂 1mo
vlwelser You're fine. I'm trying to stay on schedule because I have to travel for the holiday. Is there a January book yet? I like to plan and I didn't see a book list. 1mo
Deblovestoread I‘m refining my commitments for the new year and would like to be removed from the tag list. Thank you 🩵 1mo
Singout I don‘t think I‘m going to get very far with this one because I really want to do my #nonfiction2024 ones and I‘m helping my elderly parents move! (to a seniors‘ residential home😢). So I feel a bit of your pain. 1mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Deblovestoread no problem. I completely understand that 4w
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Hello #SheSaid!

Sorry for the very late post today. I am in the process of moving and just completely lost track of time today. But, better late than never I guess…

Everyone get the book and get a chance to start it yet, or everyone running behind like me. 🫠

MallenNC Good luck with moving! That‘s not easy. I just got this late in the week so I haven‘t started yet. 1mo
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DGRachel I got the print version from my library and I‘m going to grab it on audio as well. Best of luck with your move! 1mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC & @DGRachel thank you both. It‘s a process that‘s for sure! 😂 1mo
Karisa Good luck with your move! I‘m just starting the book. Had to grab the audio version since the other has a two week more wait. 1mo
charl08 Hope the move goes well. My copy hasn't arrived yet, fingers crossed it comes soon! 1mo
AllDebooks Good luck with the move. I'm about to start audio version 🎧 1mo
Bookwormjillk Good luck with your move. I‘m hoping to start this week. 1mo
vlwelser Good luck with the move! I hate moving. I did read the first section and it was slow at first but I'm definitely getting into it. I love that she uses the logic that if you're crazy you think you don't belong in an institution. That circular logic that allows them to keep you. Looking forward to the next section. 1mo
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Up next for #SheSaid in December, put in your library holds & interlibrary loans!

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Hello #SheSaid!

Thoughts for those of you finishing up this week….for those of you that signed up for the mail list, mine is mailing out this week too.

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Hello #SheSaid

Such an odd feeling this week, reading this section about grief, about holding things in and letting them out, about taking up the burden to help others, and then carrying that weight. And how holding it all in our bodies is not great for us…. I need to let it sink in more to comment, but I think we all need to let it out more, stop holding it in to make others comfortable…

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“The world will Always Take what you are willing to give.”

We all need to be a little less willing to give, remember the old saying, ‘put on your oxygen mask first or you can not help anyone else‘. Save some space for yourself to just be, refresh, regenerate, get grounded, and just be in the moment and refill your own well before everyone drains you dry. “The world will always take what you are willing to give.” Save a little you for yourself

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Hello #SheSaid

If you were able to get ahold of this book, how did you like this week‘s sections? If not, did you sign up to get my book as it travels around visiting?

Sorry for the late post, but we can talk in the comments 😉

Riveted_Reader_Melissa There are a few quotes from those section that really stuck with me, I‘ll post them too. But although this is so much a book about the women in her family and their lives and letting them go, I love the way she grows through it & learns to be loving and fierce herself….become her own female head of the family. 2mo
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Julsmarshall I was not able to get my hands on this book but you can keep tagging me, I‘ll keep trying 😄 2mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Julsmarshall Do you want me to take you off the tag list for this month? If you asked before and I forgot or missed it, my apologies 2mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Julsmarshall and if you go to last weeks post there is a sign up for the reading book share group 2mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m really enjoying this book so far, not much overlap with her previous book, but the talk about matriarchs, carrying on the traditions over multiple generations, ties to & fighting for the land, the continuing line despite it all, the people that we lean on & in turn become the ones approached to lean on, all feel very solid & centering to me this week. Terrible things happen to people & a people, but humans & families carry on.

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Hello #SheSaid!

My book has arrived, so the schedule is up and ready to go!

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Hello #She Said!

I know a few of us have had issues getting ahold of this book in the US…not sure why it‘s available in Canada, England, Australia, but not on the US. I got her first book just fine…BUT I do not like being told I can NOT read something. It makes me want to read it more.

I know it is price-prohibitive for us all to order it from overseas, so I have a suggestion. Let me tag everyone & let you know what I‘m thinking in the comments.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa Litsy has had a few book clubs over time, but maybe we can borrow a page (idea) from the Litsy Postal Mark Up Book Club. I‘ll order the book from afar, read it, and then mail it onto the next that wants it… if we want to follow the book mark up model, we can write a few comments in the end or margins as we go…and pass to the next. If you are interested, there will be a link in the next post for your email & mailing address. I‘ll mail to ⤵️ 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ the next. And use the emails to send you the next address to mail to when you are finished. 3mo
vlwelser I ❤ you and I love this idea but I'm going to pass on this one. Her first book was excellent but this seems like a lot. 3mo
JenlovesJT47 You can download it onto your kindle app or iBooks app! ⬆️ 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @JenlovesJT47 What is this magic ? 3mo
JenlovesJT47 Anna‘s Archive is something I stumbled across when I was looking for Sweet Valley books. It is the world‘s largest open library and everything is free. If you want to donate money to them you can and you will get faster downloads but the most you would have to wait to download is 10 minutes which keeps it free for everyone. I love this site because it is great for hard to find, out of print/expensive books. You can download books right to your 3mo
JenlovesJT47 Phone! It‘s been a lifesaver for me because I‘m low on funds at the moment. 3mo
DGRachel Just FYI, there seems to be some questions around copyright infringement/piracy related to Anna‘s Archive. Something to consider. While this memoir looks amazing, I‘ll be sitting this one out, too. 3mo
Bookwormjillk Thanks for this! I couldn‘t find it and am really interested. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DGRachel like I said, I‘m willing to mail my copy on to another interested in reading it after me. Just use the link to drop your mailing information 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DGRachel I was afraid of that with sites that I do not know. 3mo
JenlovesJT47 I understand if you feel that way, it‘s a personal choice 100%. I have used it for about 3 months now and haven‘t had any problems with it. 🙃 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser When life throws us curve balls, adapt is usually my first go too…how can we make this work anyway 😉. 2mo
vlwelser I think I looked at my schedule and used this as an excuse to do 1 less thing this month. I hope you all are enjoying the book, though. 2mo
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Hello #SheSaid

This is supposed to be our next read, but I‘m having a difficult time getting a copy here in the US. Is anyone else having issues?

staci.reads Yes, all I can find is a $23 dollar paperback from a 3rd party seller on Amazon, and I don't want to go that route for a couple reasons. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Even on eBay I can only find shipped from England, Canada, or Australia 🤷‍♀️ 3mo
Suet624 Looks really good. Bummer it‘s hard to find. 3mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Suet624 I thought so too, that‘s why I was wondering if anyone else was having issues too 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @staci.reads I‘m going to order from them, the payment still goes through Amazon and they are located in Canada, so probably why they needed to go 3rd party seller. I‘ll let you know how I make out 3mo
MallenNC I only saw it on Amazon for $38 which isn‘t reasonable and I see it on Blackwell‘s site from the UK for $12 (shipping included) but the shipping time probably would not work for our purposes. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa It‘s very odd to me that it‘s won some awards, and that her first memoir is available everywhere, but this one is so difficult to get in the US. 3mo
TheKidUpstairs I'm not sure what shipping costs are, but if you want to order it but not use Amazon, I think GoodMinds.com ships to the US. (GoodMinds is a FirstNations owned and operated online book store here in Ontario) 3mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I hope you are having a good week! See you in the comments…

Riveted_Reader_Melissa This section fit in fairly well with the book on medicine we read earlier this year… but the ties into the environmental movements, and capitalism and the draining the land of all resources, wrestling it into submission I thought was a very interesting connection. Witches still are accused of bad weather in movies & tv..nature‘s forces…makes me wonder if we will see an even bigger backlash as environmental disasters get worse 😬 3mo
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vlwelser The medicine stuff definitely aligned with books we read previously. I thought this book was good if only because it gave a different non-English speaking perspective. Her sources are a bit different even if she does use some classics like Rich and Steinem 3mo
Bookwormjillk @vlwelser I agree it was good to get a non-English perspective. This book didn‘t wow me, but I‘m glad I read it. 3mo
MallenNC I think this may have been a little too academic for my brain at the moment but I did enjoy the variety of sources she referenced. Based on the title I thought there‘d be more historical witches though. 3mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I hope everyone is having a good week.

Just a reminder if you have not seen it yet to check out our other post to nominate books to read next year. I‘d like to get the survey out soon, so nominate before the end of the month.

See you in the comments for this weeks section:

CatLass007 I can‘t seem to find the post asking for nominations. I already may have seen it and even nominated something but I don‘t remember. 3mo
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Bookwormjillk I‘m finally catching up on this one! It‘s an interesting book. 3mo
JenlovesJT47 I‘m really behind, just started this yesterday 😳 3mo
MallenNC I‘m behind but I jumped ahead to this week‘s section (I‘ll go back to catch up). There wasn‘t anything really surprising in this section— as a woman I‘m well aware of the unfair aging standards! It made me mad to read it all together. I liked her examples from real life and the arts. 3mo
MallenNC I put several suggestions on your other posts. A lot of them are books that I‘ve had on my TBR so I‘m hoping some get picked so I finally read them! 3mo
vlwelser I also added a bunch from my tbr. I tried to pick women's issues but some are history and memoir. Hopefully I remember to vote for them 😂 3mo
vlwelser This book is interesting especially from a French perspective since we usually get UK and US mostly. I think the French do better than the US with the aging thing but they also struggle. We're just way far behind. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I like added other non-fiction books myself, it‘s still a perspective on anything from the not usual male pov, even if it‘s about the environment or politics or anything. 3mo
vlwelser Perfect. Hopefully we'll get a good mix. 3mo
CatLass007 When I was in the fourth or fifth grade my grandmother moved in with my family. It didn‘t take long for me to decide that getting old was the worst thing that could ever happen to a person. I remember riding bikes with my friends and telling them that I wasn‘t going to get older than 55. They asked how I was going to manage that and my answer was, “I‘ll just off myself.” I was eleven. When I was 50, I joined the Senior Citizens (cont)⬇️ 3mo
CatLass007 Center and somehow a conversation about aging began and I told them about my plan as an eleven year old. I told them I‘d decided to raise my expiration date. I‘m 62 now, more aches and pains than I could have imagined as an eleven year old. The orthopod wants to replace my left knee but I‘ve been putting it off for a few years. Not much gray hair, just like Mom. And as I was listening to this chapter about celebrities going gray I kept (cont)⬇️ 3mo
CatLass007 thinking about Andie McDowell and her gorgeous gray locks. And Jamie Lee Curtis, what a knockout. Back in the early 80s Joan Collins posed for Playboy. I was in college and not thinking that I hoped I looked half that good when I was her age. I was wishing I looked that good THEN. Ageism is a crazy thing. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 it really is and attitude and morale make such a huge difference 3mo
CatLass007 My grandmother was manic-depressive and her behaviors that I often attributed to her age may have been due to her illness. I grew up with two parents telling me what to do and all of a sudden here was a third person giving me orders. Between the conflicting signals from the three adults in my house and the even more conflicting messages from the nuns… I don‘t think I stood a chance. 3mo
Singout I was the one who nominated this book, but then read it really early, so haven‘t been commenting. I think it‘s excellent and really tackles the issues around aging and independence stigmas well. If you scroll back to earlier in the year in my feed, you can find some of my favourite quotes! 2mo
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Up next for the rest of this year for #SheSaid… put in your library holds and interlibrary loans.

Please add your recommendations for next year in the comments!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa With our current read… this one is moving up my to-read list fast. 3mo
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vlwelser I like this book but it's not blowing my socks off 3mo
vlwelser Sorry. I'm out in the sun. I thought this was the discussion post. 3mo
CatLass007 I‘m getting a lot of recommendations from Audible because of the books I‘ve listened to for this group. I‘m thinking something by Bell Hooks, maybe 3mo
CatLass007 I also think Pauli Murray would be a wonderful subject about whom we could read or read one of the books she has written. 3mo
CatLass007 Or Rosalind Rosenberg‘s 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 Yes, you commented here! 3mo
CatLass007 Simone de Beauvoir 3mo
CatLass007 In the #ClassicLSFBC we are voting on November‘s selection. One of the nominees is a book of fiction, Herland by Charlotte Perkins Gilman, seems to fit right in with the books we‘ve been reading for #SheSaid. Gilman was an early 20th Century feminist. Her best known work probably is The Yellow Wallpaper. Herland is about a utopian society which consists entirely of women. What happens when three young men search for and find this community? 3mo
CatLass007 Ooorrrrr, I think discussing a book by or about Josephine Baker could prove both entertaining and enlightening. There will be a memoir released in February 2025 called Fearless and Free. Agent Josephine by Damien Lewis is the true story of her activities with the French Resistance during WWII and was released 2022. 3mo
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Hello #SheSaid. I hope the Fall/Spring season is treating you well wherever you are.

I‘m all caught up this week and really enjoying this book… it‘s funny to me because some of the books she references are ones we have read with SheSaid like Backlash….and other parts remind me of books languishing on my TBR pile (mountain) that I just have not gotten to yet. I am also enjoying the French perspective on all of it.

Riveted_Reader_Melissa And if you asked me and I forgot, please remind me. 3mo
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vlwelser It's good. It's not blowing my mind. 3mo
CatLass007 It‘s interesting. The French perspective is new to me and I appreciate the differences. It boggles the mind how far we‘ve come, how much ground we‘ve lost, and how much more we still have to do. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser yes… blowing my mind is hard to find and predict in advance. We will keep searching. But for October, and election season…it just seems to fit 😂 for better & worse. 3mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I got through the intro & started Chapter one. Sorry, I did not realize the introduction was a long chapter in and of itself…bad planning on my part.

Join in as you catch up (like me)! I‘m really enjoying this one so far….lots of thoughts…see you in the comments!

Riveted_Reader_Melissa Anyone read this and think of recent comments about childless cat ladies by US political people. 😳 I did! (edited) 3mo
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vlwelser I totally thought about the childless cat ladies. I was actually worried in the intro that she might get into religious topics but so far it seems normal. The French perspective is interesting. 3mo
CatLass007 I am a proud childless catlady! I definitely thought of #45‘s running mate when I heard that section. I was expecting a little more historical and a little less about modern day witches. But this is not a complaint. The author mentioned a slave who was accused of witchcraft in Salem named Tituba and I found several books about her on Audible. I probably should see if they‘re available thru my library. I‘m listening to the audiobook and (cont)⬇️ 3mo
CatLass007 I want to go back and listen again. I was in elementary school when feminists began pushing for the use of Ms. instead of Miss or Mrs. In the South, however, women have been referred to as Miz for centuries. I liked Ms. for several decades but as I get older I notice that more people call me Mrs. and I always correct them and say “It‘s Miss.” I like my singleness and want it acknowledged. Am I socially regressing? I don‘t think so. I‘m (cont)⬇️ 3mo
CatLass007 just being myself. @vlwelser I‘m also appreciative of the French perspective. For non fiction we mostly get the British or American perspective. Nice change. 3mo
DebinHawaii My thoughts also went right to childless cat lady comments. Like @CatLass007 I am a proud one too! It!s interesting so far. 3mo
CatLass007 @DebinHawaii There‘s no better combination than cats and books. 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 & @DebinHawaii How did she say it…any women independent, on her own, and not under the control of a man! We are dangerous! Apparently dangerous in with hunting times and to dangerous to vote according to some today 🤪 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa This quote also made me think of someone who says it a lot: “The phrase “witch-hunt” is a curiously loaded one; deployed nowadays, the speaker is almost certainly using it incorrectly and acting in bad faith (and would unquestionably minimize witch-hunts as historic fact).” 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa And this one…you can tell it‘s political season in the US 😂 “The political enemies of certain high-born figures would occasionally denounce the latter‘s daughters or wives as witches; this was easier than attacking their enemies directly. However, the great majority of victims belonged to the lower classes.” 3mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I did find it both interesting and sadly not surprising how much of the reasoning was still relevant today. The blaming the victim, that if she accused you of anything bad/illegal disregard her, she‘s obviously a witch trying to ruin my good name, to even the researchers who discussed it being a war on women (with an occasional man pulled in) and the others piping up, “not just women, men too!” 3mo
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I usually have mixed feelings when an author finishes a series & then restarts it… it was a series I hated to let go of to begin with, and had thought about a re-read recently, so I was more than willing to dive in again. Kate & Curran have moved on, out of Atlanta, for a low-profile start for their new family...None of that pesky history hanging over them! But, a missing child has Kate out looking & taking no prisoners…anonymity can‘t last long!

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A good memoir that blends in a look at history, thoughtful commentary, and personal lived experiences. This book does all of that and while it emphasizes that not all trans stories or non-binary stories are the same, these were the lived experiences of this author. Very thoughtful & honest, willing to take on the Hollywood version & stereotypes out there, plus a big dose of history we have whitewashed from our collective history.

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AllDebooks This was such an informative, compassionate read. I loved it and so glad we swapped. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks Yes, me too. For a last minute switch, it was the perfect one. 4mo
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Is anyone else who runs group reads having a terrible time posting tag lists lately?

Trying to figure out if it‘s a device issue on my end or a site change.

julesG It can be tricky at times. Sometimes I have to try multiple times ending up with tagging everyone twice. 🙄 (I'm using Android, btw) 4mo
GingerAntics I‘m on Apple, and every time I tag a list, the first person on the list doesn‘t actually get tagged. I have no idea why. That‘s been going on for like a year or more now, though. 4mo
DGRachel I don‘t do long tag lists anymore but I noticed that I‘ve been tagged recently, the original post shows a blue-text tag like it worked, but I didn‘t get a notification. I just happened to see the post in my feed. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @julesG I use apple and same here, it‘s been ongoing for awhile now and yesterday to took over an hour to get it to take a tag list. So I just wanted to know if it was something on my end or something else. Thank you for letting me know it‘s not just me 4mo
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4 Years Ago!!! Happy Milestone!

Any thoughts or suggestions for the future?

Let me know what you think #SheSaid!

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vlwelser It's hard to believe it's been 4 years. If you want to keep going, I'm game, but if you're ready to move on, that's ok too. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I was planning on continuing, just curious if anyone had any suggestions to keep it fresh going forward. Anything they like/don‘t like/want to try, etc. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa My only issue lately has been the hour it tags to get the tag list to post 😂 4mo
vlwelser I don't always get the notifications but I know what I'm looking for so this might not be a problem from my side but others might struggle. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser honestly, I‘m glad you search for it yet. I wish I knew why tags were so off lately. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I was also toying with the idea of starting another group read, but I need to do a bit more research first, make sure no one else is doing something similar already. 4mo
AnneCecilie I‘m glad that you say that you want to continue. I try to participate whenever my library has the books, and I always enjoy them, several have made it to my best reads of the years list. I like the diversity. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AnneCecilie I‘m glad you are enjoying them still. But I thought it was a good time to check in, see if people were still into the books, or if they were starting to feel repetitive….and if so what could we do to keep it exciting. I personally have been behind reading the last few books, by that‘s a personal busy period for me, even when I finish the books later, I‘m still finding them very interesting and insightful. 4mo
MallenNC I really enjoy the group, even though I haven‘t been able to keep up with some of our picks lately. I really like the focus on women authors still, and that we mix in a few fiction picks each year. One thought I have is for some of the denser picks, maybe we could stretch beyond one month for those. Sometimes it‘s hard for me to read the full section each week bc I‘m always reading something else along with it. 4mo
MallenNC I am not getting notifications for the tags, but I know to look at your page on Sundays so that‘s actually fine. If you can‘t tag, I think most of the regulars would be able to just come looking for the discussion post each week. 4mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

How is everyone this weekend? I‘m a bit behind this week, kindle issues… but I spent some time with customer service today and I‘m up and running again and hope to catch up soon.

Please start without me, and I‘ll jump in when I finish.

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willaful I thought the points in the last chapters were very valuable, especially about the danger of attributing too much meaning to celebrity progress, and to seeing progress as inevitably. That\'s show itself very true since the book was written.

I was a little puzzled by the author\'s insistence on using the word feminism. It\'s a word so specifically associated with a gendered idea, it doesn\'t seem right for what they\'re trying to express.
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willaful On the other hand, their anger at being always shown as *opposed* to feminism is very understandable. It\'s a common problem with marginalized groups, as shown in the saying \“all the blacks are men, all the women are white\“ -- but especially in this instance, when a subset of feminists are making life so hard for trans people. 4mo
vlwelser @willaful I think their point was the exclusion. The either/or of it. Like there's some feminist/non feminist binary. Maybe it isn't articulated that way. But that's how I read it. 4mo
vlwelser I love the references to the Roxane Gay book which is something everyone should read. 4mo
willaful @vlwelser I wasn\'t very interested in it when I first tried it but now I want to have another go. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful I took the intersectionality discussion of feminism very much to be the point. Feminism should not be Female first, or a female power movement. But an anti- gender stereotypes holding everyone down and dictating their worth, abilities, etc, etc. and that very much intersects with racism but also ANY group the current societal gender ideas discriminated against. And the fact that some feminists have taken a hard line with “real ⤵️ 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ women” versus everyone else and are forcing an us vs them is wrong. Anyone society looks at as women and discriminates or treats differently because of that, because women-like anything is viewed as less than…that‘s the real fight. And that includes a large section of all kinds of people...really all of society. 4mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

Sorry for the very late post today, just enjoying the fall weather here this weekend!

How is the book going for you? Thoughts on this week‘s section?

vlwelser I appreciate the author's opinions more and more as I read further. There's nothing especially earth shattering about this but it's well written and I appreciate the perspective. 4mo
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willaful I like how clearly this book explains things. I\'d heard before that bathroom laws were designed to remove trans people from public life but I don\'t think I really grasped what it meant before. 4mo
DebinHawaii I like how they are laying out the book and the mix of their own stories with the science and history. I am learning a lot and enjoying their perspective.
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AnneCecilie Chapter 8 really had an impact on me, left me tears, both when she was talking about the importance of her brother and when she was returning to one of her previous schools to give a speech 4mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

How is everyone doing this week?

Thoughts on this week‘s sections?

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MallenNC Unfortunately my library doesn‘t have this one so I‘m not able to read it this month. I will keep it on my TBR for the future. 4mo
vlwelser This author is very articulate and I appreciate their perspective on this topic. Glad you found this though I have no idea what the deal was with the other book. 4mo
CatLass007 I confess that I found chapter 5 confusing. Maybe it‘s a factor of my age or preconceived notions. But I don‘t understand the distinction they are making between sex and gender. However I felt chapters 6 and 7 were poignant and informative when they discuss dealing with medical professionals who have their own preconceived ideas about what it is to be transgender. (edited) 4mo
willaful I was struck by the use of proprioception to talk about dysphoria, since I have had proprioception issues myself. And the discussion about the insistence on gender as *opposites*, which isn't even supported by history, is fascinating. 4mo
AnneCecilie I also found chapters 6 and 7 to be eye opening. Her horse riding story made an impact on me. How when she was young she had fallen of the horse and needed several operations. Another girl was there after having her pelvis crushed after the pony she was riding fell on her. The doctor had told her parents “that horse riding was more risky than riding a motorbike” and jet young girls are encouraged to do it. But we tell young people who want 4mo
AnneCecilie treatment that it‘s too dangerous. (edited) 4mo
willaful @AnneCecilie Yes, that was a powerful story.

@CatLass007 I think part of the point is that “sex“ can be much murkier than people like to think.
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DebinHawaii While Chapter 5 was interesting, I also found myself caught up in Chapter 6 & 7. I am impressed with the author‘s writing & how they related their stories mixed in with other experiences & the science. It makes it very readable & I‘m learning a lot. 4mo
Bookwomble @vlwelser I know this is a bit late in the day for a response, but the other book that was initially considered is virulently transphobic. 3mo
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Hello #SheSaid

I know this book substitution came suddenly, so have you found a copy, and if so, how do you feel about it so far?

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CatLass007 I am learning so much from this author. I‘m learning some of what trans people go through. I‘m learning that I have many preconceived ideas about what it means to be trans. I was in junior high when Renee Richards had what was then called a “sex change” operation. She was not a public figure, she was an ophthalmologist. Her gender didn‘t become an issue until she wanted to play professional tennis. I remember riding on the school bus, (cont)⬇️ 4mo
CatLass007 listening to a girl who had decided to write a report on Dr. Richards. I don‘t remember any of what she said except for repeatedly saying “she, I mean it.” I believe she was deliberately saying “she” so that she could supposedly correct herself to say “I mean it.” I didn‘t really understand the politics and hostility felt about Dr. Richards by most of the world. I just knew that what the girl on the school bus was saying wasn‘t (cont)⬇️ 4mo
CatLass007 just disrespectful it was hateful. Things haven‘t changed much in society‘s treatment of trans people. I was wondering what had happened to Renee Richards so I googled her. She retired from performing surgery at the age of 80. She is now 90 years old and doing well. 4mo
willaful Ooops, I forgot to ask to get retagged. I just got it and will try to catch up. 4mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful I added you already, you should have gotten tagged 4mo
vlwelser They have a perspective that seems to be missing from this very interesting group of people. We have read other books by trans authors. But that may not be common. I have heard the Caitlin Jenner opinion before. As in, why do people seem to think that's their figurehead or whatever. I wouldn't want her as my spokesperson either. I totally get that. 4mo
DebinHawaii Interesting & illuminating so far. I‘m learning a lot & like the author‘s writing style. 4mo
AnneCecilie Like several others have already stated, I‘m learning a lot. There‘s something about seeing tings from different perspectives 4mo
willaful I was struck by how the author couldn't use HRT, as a singer. I always enjoy reading less conventional transgender narratives. It's good to hear different stories.

I don't think I'd read much from a transgender perspective about Jenner before, and that was interesting.
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Hello #SheSaid!

Our replacement book for this month.

Please put in your library holds & interlibrary loans.

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CatLass007 I see my name in the tag list but I haven‘t been getting your tags lately. Is there a customer service contact that we could consult? 5mo
CatLass007 Oh, but I‘m in. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I don‘t know of any…and it‘s been giving me trouble posting the tag list lately too 🤷‍♀️ 4mo
CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I found an email address for customer service. You‘re not the only person who‘s tagged me and I didn‘t receive a notice. For some reason I got the tag above. 4mo
CatLass007 What is the title of the other book we were considering? I‘m finding this book very enlightening and I would like to see if the other book is available through my library. 4mo
CatLass007 Thank you. 4mo
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Next up for #SheSaid….not sure…

1 week to catch up, then onto ????

Please read the comments below & discuss

willaful Remove me from the tag list for this book please. 5mo
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Bookwomble In case you're not aware, Joyce is a noted transphobe who promotes "gender critical" views and has called for "a reduction in the number of trans people", which echoes some scary ideologies. https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/06/03/helen-joyce-transgender-lgbtq/ 5mo
Bookwomble @willaful ♥️🏳️‍⚧️♥️ 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwomble let me finish tagging everyone and then maybe we need to discuss an alternate… 🫠 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Read the link above everyone…there seem to be some issues with this author & book. We need to discuss! Let me know if you still want to read, skip, pick an alternate, etc. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Bookwomble Thank you for letting me know. 5mo
Bookwomble If you want to read a book about trans people by a trans person, I'd recommend the tagged 😊 5mo
Suet624 Oooh boy. I think a different author would be best. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Anyone read Before We Were Trans yet? Any good? 5mo
CatLass007 I had decided I wasn‘t interested in this book because of the author. But if another book is chosen I might be interested. 5mo
CatLass007 I could get behind Trans Like Me. 5mo
AllDebooks Bloody hell, her comments are utterly vile and make me very uncomfortable indeed. I would not want to read or support any author with those views. Thanks for sharing @Bookwomble 5mo
AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I would be happy to read either Trans like me or Before we were trans 🏳️‍⚧️ 5mo
Bookwomble @AllDebooks ✊🏳️‍⚧️✊😊 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful Do you want added back to an alternate book and to help us pick it out? 5mo
Singout Before we Were Tran gets my vote because it‘s accessible to me and I like the spectrum of times and places it seems to cover. But, I can‘t *promise* that I will read it! 5mo
willaful @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Thanks! From the reviews, I'm more interested in Trans Like Me. 5mo
AnneCecilie My library has Trans Like Me so I would prefer that (edited) 5mo
DebinHawaii Oh bummer. Just reading this now & I wish I hadn‘t purchased the first book on Kindle a couple weeks ago. 😩 Hopefully I can return it. That being said, Trans Like Me is available to borrow in e-book at my library, so I prefer that one. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii try to return it, hopefully you can. I‘m sorry. I did not realize there has been an issue with the author either. 5mo
DebinHawaii @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Not your fault at all! Sometimes they just sneak in there! 5mo
vlwelser And so we pivot. 😂 I missed this convo somehow. I will try to find the other book. 5mo
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Hello #SheSaid! I‘m still far behind on this one, and I know a few others of you got late starts as well.

How is it going? Getting there slowly, but surely?

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vlwelser I think this was definitely worth reading even if there is nothing earth shattering or groundbreaking about it. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa There is an issue with our next book…please check out that post and let me know what you think 5mo
AllDebooks I'm still behind, too. I'm fascinated by it but can only cope with reading small chunks at a time. 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks next week will be catch up week for this book for me 🤞 but I‘m having the same tiny sections is all I can do, some is real life, some is tough reading.🤷‍♀️ 5mo
AllDebooks @Riveted_Reader_Melissa it's the tough subject matter for me. I get very shouty at the book, and then I feel bad, as it's not the books fault. 😅 5mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa If anyone would like added or removed from the tag list, please just let me know. 5mo
vlwelser I'm still entirely drawn into this. The history is fascinating. I think I may start to get more annoyed as we move closer to the present. Also the narrator on the audio is sort of awful. The way she pronounces things occasionally drives me up a wall. 5mo
Suet624 I‘ll have to skip this one but thank you for keeping me on your list. 5mo
kspenmoll I just got called that the library has this hold in- plan to read but will be my own pace. 5mo
staci.reads I just got my copy! I have some catching up to do! 5mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m still behind, but starting to make some progress. Sorry, some unwell women in my household at the moment too…my mom had back surgery last Friday…. But I‘ll get caught up eventually. I hope everyone is learning lots and if not enjoying the topic, enjoying knowing you are not alone or imagining some of this stuff.

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TheBookHippie Seeing all the post I just put it on hold at the library! Hope things settle down by you. 5mo
CatLass007 I‘m behind also. I‘m feeling a lot of powerful emotions reading this book. Anger is at the top. It‘s good to know the history but it‘s stressful learning all of this. I‘m hoping that the author offers possible solutions to the imbalance of power that still exists in society and particularly in medicine. If that doesn‘t happen, I will feel like I‘ve wasted my time and energy on this book. 5mo
AnneCecilie I‘m also behind, but I knew pretty early on that this book was gonna make me angry and it does. Marriage and children seem to be the cure for every female malady for a long time. I read Wollstonecraft ages ago, but at had no idea that she wrote it in this climate. She was way braver than I thought 5mo
willaful I forgot all about this, being an unwell woman myself at the moment. @#$!@# covid! 5mo
MallenNC I‘m behind too (bc of the Olympics) but I thought about this book a lot while at two doctors‘ appointments this week. I don‘t feel dismissed by my doctors but I still don‘t always feel fully seen, so to speak. 5mo
DebinHawaii I read the first section but have not started the second because I wasn‘t in the mood to “rage read” this week & this book‘s subject infuriates me.🤬 That being said, it‘s good & right up your alley @TheBookHippie 5mo
TheBookHippie @DebinHawaii I‘m in rage at the medical field so should be fun 😵‍💫🤦🏻‍♀️👀 5mo
vlwelser The second section is more history stuff but we're getting closer to present day. This does actually explain a lot of things in a coherent and well researched way. There's a lot on giving birth and some of it was horrifying. 5mo
AllDebooks Wishing your mum a speedy recovery. I can not stop reading this, but I will have to as I'm at boiling point with the stupid medicine men. I just can't. I'm always fascinated by the history of medicine, but it's very rarely focused on the women before. I just need to read something light and fluffy. Does anyone know any good books on castration? 🤔😈 5mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @AllDebooks 😂 yea! That‘s the ticket! I keep putting it down and am off reading Mercy Thompson 🤣. Apparently medical real life and this book have lead to for fun reading. 5mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

I‘m a bit behind this week, but I hope the rest of you are enjoying our new selection. I‘ll catch up soon and meet you in the comments.

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DebinHawaii Just picked up my copy from the library yesterday so I‘ll be catching up. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DebinHawaii We can catch up together 😉 6mo
CatLass007 I‘m not sure that this is a book to be enjoyed, although it is intriguing and informative. I‘ve listened to the introduction and the first two chapters. It feels like being punched in the gut. I‘m participating in the #SundayBuddyRead also and there‘s a scene in which a wealthy man threatens to have his wife committed. Same damn thing. Women had no rights and the Right Wingers in the USA want to take away the rights we‘ve fought so hard for. 6mo
vlwelser This book is so detailed and interesting. She clearly did so much research. I love it so far. As a book. Not the ridiculous treatment of women. I hate that. 6mo
MallenNC I was only able to read the first chapter after getting this from the library yesterday. I think it‘s going to be thought provoking 6mo
AnneCecilie I‘ve picked it up from the library, but haven‘t started it yet. I‘ll get back once I‘ve read this part 6mo
staci.reads I can't even begin to list the stories in the 1st five chapters that were most appalling! Too many to recount! But the story of Anne Green, who survived being hanged, stomped on, and nearly autopsied after burying her stillborn fetus, and the stories of Anarcha, Betsy, and Lucy, enslaved girls who were horrifically experimented on, were a gut punch. ⬇️ 5mo
staci.reads I so appreciate this author documenting their experiences with names, dates, and facts. It takes these things that, in abstract, I knew happened and humanizes these women. 5mo
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Interesting to me #SheSaid that Poseidon is listed as her Consort …since NO myth version I‘ve heard or read refer to their union as consensual or ongoing. Also interesting that on her death she birthed two children of that “Union” 🙄. 1 being Pegasus! Everyone‘s favorite winged horse!

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KathyWheeler I haven‘t ever heard a story that described their union as consensual either. I wonder why Haynes chose to leave out Medusa‘s children though. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler I think that‘s some good white washing euphemism… I thought of googling some others Zeus “visited” 🙄. I guess the children part might be confusing as the burst out of her blood when she was beheaded 🤷‍♀️ 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Not Medusa‘s story per say, a different story 6mo
Julsmarshall Consort 🤨🙄😝 6mo
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I‘m not going to lie…even though I knew the myth and how it was all going to end, I felt let down at the end anyway….which I guess means the author did a really great job 😜

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Karisa Yes! It was so sad the ending for Medusa especially. Even though the myth is set in stone, the author managed to make me hope for better for her too. I didn‘t realize we‘d still have her point of view after her demise—creative and so morbid. It was brilliant! I was surprised by how Athena was portrayed too. I‘ve never thought of her so negatively. Need to pick a new favorite Greek goddess after reading this… (edited) 6mo
KathyWheeler I was really hoping we‘d get a new ending for Medusa, even though I knew we wouldn‘t. I loved the way we continued to hear from her though. 6mo
willaful To quote “Hadestown“:

It‘s a sad song
It‘s a sad tale, it‘s a tragedy
It‘s a sad song
But we sing it anyway

[sighs]
[spoken]
Cause, here‘s the thing:
To know how it ends
And still begin to sing it again
As if it might turn out this time
I learned that from a friend of mine
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MallenNC I felt sad too. I really liked how she reframed it to show Medusa was not the monster of the story, but the ending was still hard. I‘m going to read more of the author‘s work for sure. I‘ve had A Thousand Ships on my TBR forever. 6mo
DebinHawaii I‘m so glad I finally read this even with the sad ending still happening. I liked the way it was told. & like as @MallenNC said, the framing of Medusa not being the monster. I will read more from Haynes. 6mo
vlwelser She proves that every story has a different point of view depending on the narrator. I'm giving it a pick for sure. Athene sort of gets her just deserts at the end. Serves her right. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @willaful that‘s great! 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I loved that at the end she was almost confused by her own curse, and hurt by it…because it turned someone she cared about into stone too 6mo
Julsmarshall Just finished this and I echo everyone‘s thoughts. I will think about this for a while. So well done! 6mo
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Karisa I‘m enjoying this quite a bit. Feels like it is going by so fast. It has me wanting to look up more about Medusa and the Gorgons because this retelling is so different than the one I know. I love the spin on Perseus, too funny. I‘m listening on audiobook because I love hearing this author narrate. She puts so much life into her characters! Her book A Thousand Ships is amazing too. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Karisa I just picked up her Pandora‘s Jar to get a bit more backstory. It was on kindle unlimited for free reading, and is supposed to be non-fiction. Apparently many of the myths we learned are watered down versions of the originals that were more female centric, reducing them to side characters and wives. So I thought I‘d check it out. It wouldn‘t surprise me though, we know there is a world of difference between other myths through the⤵️ 6mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ the ages from say Grims Tales or Hans Christian Anderson to Disney (edited) 6mo
vlwelser Perseus is such a tool. But I think that's the point. The one whose story I don't know is actually Andromeda and I'm still curious there. I love the writing in this, the random side character perspectives, the latest being the snakes. 6mo
vlwelser I need to look up Pandora's Jar and give it a listen. But my queue is absurd rn. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa …actually Litsy has it listed as Fiction too. 🤷‍♀️ we will see 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I see the second half of the tag list never posted…. Let me try again… 6mo
MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I also got Pandora‘s Jar from my library to read once we‘re done with this one. 6mo
MallenNC I really like the writing of this retelling. I am excited to finish it but I‘ll also be a little sad to be done. I‘m already feeling sad for Medusa. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Ok then…be that way 😂 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC anyway…after a posting snafu…I feel bad for her too, and if you know the myth at all you know it‘s not a happy ending for her…which makes it worse 🫤 6mo
MallenNC @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yes knowing how it ends has given a sense of dread throughout as I‘m reading the book. It shows how much a difference providing POV makes bc I don‘t remember thinking much about Medusa at all when reading the myth in school 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa So the work of a good author ✍️ 6mo
KathyWheeler I never thought much about Medusa while I was learning about Greek mythology or watching Clash of the Titans. This book made me think about her. 6mo
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Stone Blind: A Novel | Natalie Haynes
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Hello #SheSaid!

How are you doing this weekend?

Thoughts on this week‘s section?

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m really liking this…and the asides from some characters are really great. It is not only a great way to piece together parts of the story, but those asides I find amusing….and they tie together the mythology so much better from individual stories to a whole narrative. 6mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa “There are 50 of us, and you don‘t know our names…can‘t you count to 50” 😂 (edited) 6mo
vlwelser I just finished this section. And not a whole heck of a lot happened but it seems like it's setting up the plot to carry forward. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser yes, setting up all the players on their paths with what they need before they intersect. 6mo
vlwelser That nonsense with the nymphs was quite comical. I do enjoy the way this was written. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser Yes, I think she is doing a good job weaving together both the comical parts, and dark parts into a cohesive story. The Crow was good too and I enjoyed the Nereid, Unnamed and her anger, plus the asides on how Perseus treated different groups he meet, and how stupid the gods guiding him think of him (any mortal really). They are just oblivious to anything not important to them. Gaia, that was some unexpected twist I did not ⤵️ 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Remember…hey, this god assaulted you. Let me give you his child to care for. 🫤 (edited) 6mo
KathyWheeler @Riveted_Reader_Melissa Yeah, I didn‘t remember that either. And then to learn Poseidon set up that whole proposal?! I loved the section with Perseus and the Hesperides. 6mo
MallenNC I just got caught up with this section. I am really enjoying her style, and how approachable the writing is (edited) 6mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

How are you all doing this week?

Liking the new book, it‘s a definitely a shift from our last book and normal non-fiction, but I‘m enjoying it…I‘ve always liked mythology, so for me it‘s a fun read. I was hoping for more of a Circe-type deep dive, but we are still at the beginning.

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Riveted_Reader_Melissa It also reminds me that Greek mythology is basically all 1 big trigger warning for women. 6mo
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa But I like how she is handling those parts without ignoring them or breezing over them 6mo
MallenNC I don‘t remember a lot from studying Greek myths in school but I remember the basics of this story. I like how she is telling it, especially as it gets further into the narrative. It‘s doing a good job of making the reader consider who the monsters really are in these stories. (edited) 6mo
DGRachel I really love how Haynes writes. I appreciate that while she has hit on some of the horrible things, she didn‘t dwell on it or go into detail. 6mo
vlwelser This book is so girl power and I love how she keeps calling out Zeus and the other dudes for being very rapey. And how they point out that Perseus is only a hero from one perspective. I mean he does go cut off Medusa's head. Poor Medusa. 6mo
MallenNC @vlwelser I loved that chapter where she said “I bet you feel sorry for poor little Perseus” and then proceeds to destroy that idea. 6mo
KathyWheeler @MallenNC That‘s my favorite chapter so far! I just love the way it‘s told. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @MallenNC & @KathyWheeler Yes, loved that part. Normal hero myth, nope! Let me tell you the real story 😂 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DGRachel Exactly. They can be hard to retell just because of all the violence, but I also like that she is confronting it, but not dwelling, not just sweeping it under the rug. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser I also liked that she is “humanizing” Hera a bit. Who is usually just jealous vindictive to all of her husband‘s bastard children. But they point out, she can‘t get revenge against him, so that‘s all she can do. Meanwhile how little Zeus cares.. ‘remember that girl you liked…which one…the one locked in a prison…ummm…the one you turned into rain to sleep with…oh yea, she was nice and lonely….she going to die.. oh…and your son….‘ ⤵️ 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ Hera thinks he cares, the woman sometimes thinks he cares and is watching over the kids, his new goddess daughter thinks he cares. Meanwhile he doesn‘t think about any of them, totally oblivious. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I am waiting for Athena to grow up a bit. She‘s so young and needy yet here as a newborn goddess, I‘m waiting for her to grow into that wisdom bit. 6mo
vlwelser He doesn't care even a tiny bit. He barely remembers any of them. They have to tell him a story with himself as the main character before he even remembers. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser yes! Exactly! 😂 6mo
KathyWheeler @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I think I forget about the newborn aspect of Athena. I hope she does grow into that wisdom. Right now, she‘s a brat. 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler yes she is, guess they needed to find a reason for the curse from a wisdom Goddess 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Maybe the idea is, they are all brats, no matter their qualities. Plus someone once told me a different version of Medusa, maybe not so much a curse as a gift so no one could touch her again if she didn‘t want them too. Curious to see how this one spins it 6mo
CatLass007 Last month I participated in the #LiteraryCrew buddy read of the author‘s A Thousand Ships, which I believe was excellent. It deals with the after effects of the Trojan War from the female perspective. Stone Blind also focuses on the perspectives of female characters and characters that are neither human nor Olympian, but something else entirely. I‘ve finished the book so I‘m making every effort to not spoil anything. Such a good book! 6mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 I‘m so glad you liked it! But yes, don‘t tell us… I‘m trying so hard not to read ahead with this one. 6mo
CatLass007 @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I have read several retellings of myths in the last couple of years. The two by Natalie Haynes have to be my favorites. 6mo
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DGRachel Would you add me? I‘ve had this book on my shelf for a while and I‘d love to read it with a group. 7mo
Karisa 🎉 I just finished her novel Thousand Ships and loved it. Can‘t wait to jump into this one. I‘m going with the audiobook because the author narrates them wonderfully! Hope my loan comes in in time 🤞 7mo
CatLass007 Can‘t wait to get started with this. 7mo
MallenNC I just got this so I‘m ready to start! 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @DGRachel yes, I can! welcome! 7mo
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Run Towards the Danger | Sarah Polley
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Hello #SheSaid!

What a different essay to wrap up the book!

Let me know what you thought of this last one and the book as a whole. See you in the comments!

CatLass007 I thought the final essay was very enlightening. I am disabled and have several “invisible” illnesses. Sarah Polley‘s mention of people believing she was “malingering” sounded very familiar. 7mo
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vlwelser This last essay was great even if it maybe didn't fit exactly with the others. That treatment plan was something else and also that it worked. I loved this entire book. 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @CatLass007 me too! And yes, so YES! From the time I was little other kids accused me of putting it on for attention, with no idea how I wanted to be able to just run with the rest of them unnoticed. People are crazy and so quick to out any otherness. 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @vlwelser it didn‘t fit exactly, but yet…it did, that running towards the danger was the theme of most of the book. So it seemed off from the rest, yet essential. 7mo
vlwelser As always she kind of just does her thing. She doesn't actually need a theme. This last essay actually made me worry about her wellbeing. The other essays were more retrospective. 7mo
MallenNC I really liked the last one. A lot stood out to me, from the randomness of her injury to all the contradictory advice and treatment she got, and how she was treated by others. The doctor in the US was so interesting too. Overall I really liked this book and am glad we read it! I wouldn‘t have otherwise bc I hadn‘t heard of it. 7mo
DebinHawaii I agree, although it was different than the others I liked how it brought us full circle with the title of the book & found it really interesting as well. I enjoyed this book & I‘m glad it was a pick. Like @MallenNC I probably wouldn‘t have come across it on my own. 7mo
Singout What @CatLass007 said, as per my earlier post. I can really resonate with her stories of multiple doctors/theories and am glad she found what she needed even if it seemed a bit strange. I‘m going to share this with others who struggle with similar situations, although each is different. It‘s important to put these stories out there, especially from a respected voice. I also appreciated what she said about grounding herself in family. 7mo
KathyWheeler The last essay was interesting and also pointed out the failure of many medical systems. She could afford to spend that money to go outside of Canada to get treatment that worked for her, and I‘m glad for her that she could. How many others would be able to do the same? 7mo
AnneCecilie For me the last essay brought the collection full circle and explained the title. It‘s amazing how what appear to be a small accident can cause so much trouble and over so many years. I had no idea who Sarah Polley before reading this collection and I never would have gotten to this on my own. So happy to have read it with this group 7mo
Suet624 That last essay was amazing. I can‘t imagine living that way for years. Thank you for bringing this book to us to read. It was great. 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I‘m so glad you all enjoyed it. I had never heard of it before either…so thank you whoever recommended it. 7mo
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Hello #SheSaid!

How is everyone doing this weekend?

Is everyone starting to catch up?

MallenNC For once I am caught up! I enjoyed this essay about how her early career impacts her motherhood and her return to a place that had been a challenge during her child star days. 7mo
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vlwelser Every essay makes me love her even more. She's very self aware. I'm sad to be finishing. She's so fierce and I think she's a great role model. Her voice is powerful and she uses it. 7mo
MallenNC @vlwelser I wasn‘t really familiar with her before this book. I remember her at the Oscars, I think! I‘m going to look up more of her work when we‘re done with the book. 7mo
vlwelser @MallenNC start with Women Talking. That's what she got the Oscar for. But Dawn of the Dead is pretty epic. She did a lot of indie stuff also. 7mo
Singout I‘m caught up too! I found this thoughtful: tensions between her memories and her current life, and the the way she could lay down what had been expected of her for such a long time. I loved the Anne Green Gables books when I was a kid and that was definitely a huge pilgrimage when I was seven, and my kid sister was addicted to the TV series, so I can relate to those girls! Interesting to see her point of view on it. 7mo
Julsmarshall Her perspective is so thoughtful and raw. I love her thoughts around being a child actor and the layered feelings around it. Such a brilliant voice! 7mo
MallenNC @vlwelser Thanks! I will start there then. I‘m looking forward to it. 7mo
vlwelser @Singout I definitely stopped watching the show quite so religiously after they wrote her out of it. She was really my fav. I still adore her. Total fangirl. I have no idea who suggested this book. I listened to the audio which she reads. 7mo
DebinHawaii I‘m caught up too. As others have said, I‘m enjoying her perspectives on being a child star & dealing with celebrity. She is very insightful & each essay draws me in. 7mo
Singout @vlwelser I suggested the book! It‘s been on my TBR list for a while. (edited) 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I really like the way she explores in multiple essays the way she remembers things happening as a child, doubts her own memories of the event….it wasn‘t that bad, right?…not that severe, right?…all her imagination embellishing & over exaggerated, right? ….if it had been that bad others would have intervened or said something, so it couldn‘t have been…. But each time she turns to face it and really revisit it, instead of downplaying it and ⤵️ 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa ↪️ and doubting herself….she usually finds she was not imagining it or overblowing it. It was real and happened. Hers is often about being a child star, so she has the benefit of there being some news clips, footage to verify some of it, but I think it‘s very useful to anyone with any childhood trauma. ⤵️ (edited) 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa Because “the adults” don‘t want to feel badly, they are fine with downplaying your childhood experiences, it absolves them too if it wasn‘t “that bad” “didn‘t happen that way” “you are overblowing it”, etc. but for me the message is, children are not stupid, they know, and their feelings are real & valid and society does them a huge disservice by minimizing their thoughts & experiences. 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa In many ways our current society still has a long way to go in the children‘s rights area. They are still second class citizens whose lives are dictated by their parents or guardians, with little say themselves or recourse if things are not ok. 7mo
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Hello #SheSaid! Sorry for the very late post this weekend! How are you all doing with the book and this week‘s essay?

Happy Father‘s Day to the Dads in the US today too (and elsewhere even if your Father‘s Day is not today 😉)

vlwelser This essay about basically putting young children in danger for art was sort of mind blowing. I think that's actually what this book is known for. Or why it got a lot of attention. Aside from Sarah Polley being a unicorn. 7mo
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MallenNC This essay about how unprotected she was making that movie was sad. She did a good job unpacking the different layers of blame she had for her parents and the filmmakers. 7mo
KathyWheeler What got to me was how long it took her to place any blame on the director! Children clearly need more stringent rules in place to protect them. I was shocked at what she was put through. 7mo
Singout I‘m late to the game, even though I think I nominated the book! I‘ve found all these essays powerful: this one really unpacks a lot of layers, as others have said. She does a really good job of articulating the tensions between her needs and fears as a child actor, the trauma caused by uncertainty and pressure with her parental relationships, and feeling both exploited and charmed by Gilliam. I‘ve never seen the movie but I am now intrigued. 7mo
Julsmarshall I‘m behind, my hold on the #audio just came in but I‘m already on the second chapter. What a heartbreaking story and powerful voice. With her directorial chops, I‘m not surprised that she is such a great writer. 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa @KathyWheeler I think because at that age you think of your parents as still all knowing and god-like beings that protect and care for you. So any danger that comes is their mistake. It takes the growing up to a certain age, where you realize they are just human too and make the same human mistakes as anyone else, that more comes in. Most kids hit that in the teens, that‘s why they become rebellious and do not take everything you say ⤵️ (edited) 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa To heart anymore, because you don‘t really “know” anything. But for our author, that normal growing up pattern through different age groups is all over the place, which she mentions in here, no boundaries as a child, and moving out while still so young. So I‘m not surprised it took here awhile to get there 7mo
Riveted_Reader_Melissa I really liked the accountability of everyone at the end…. The white, male, mad-geniuses are permitted to risk everyone for “the art” but that would not be tolerated by other directors/artists. I also like that the other mad genius Robin Williams who is just mentioned briefly, but in a completely different and caring way… just showed it didn‘t have to be that way. 7mo
KathyWheeler @Riveted_Reader_Melissa I agree with everything you just said. 7mo
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