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Tolkien and the Great War
Tolkien and the Great War: The Threshold of Middle-earth | John Garth
"Very much the best book about J.R.R. Tolkien that has yet been written." -- A.N. Wilson "A highly intelligent book ... Garth displays impressive skills both as researcher and writer." -- Max Hastings "It is a strange story that Garth tells, but he tells it clearly and compellingly." -- Tom Shippey "Somewhere, I think, Tolkien is nodding in appreciation." -- Charles Matthews, San Jose Mercury News "Gripping from start to finish and offers important new insights." - Library Journal "A labor of love in which journalist Garth combines a newsman's nose for a good story with a scholar's scrupulous attention to detail... Brilliantly argued." -- Daily Mail "Insight into how a writer turned academia into art, how deeply friendship supports and wounds us, and how the death and disillusionment that characterized World War I inspired Tolkien's lush saga." - Detroit Free Press To be caught in youth by 1914 was no less hideous an experience than in 1939 . . . by 1918 all but one of my close friends were dead. So J.R.R. Tolkien responded to critics who saw The Lord of the Rings as a reaction to the Second World War. Tolkien and the Great War tells for the first time the full story of how he embarked on the creation of Middle-earth in his youth as the world around him was plunged into catastrophe. This biography reveals the horror and heroism that he experienced as a signals officer in the Battle of the Somme and introduces the circle of friends who spurred his mythology into life. It shows how, after two of these brilliant young men were killed, Tolkien pursued the dream they had all shared by launching his epic of good and evil. This is the first substantially new biography of Tolkien since 1977, meticulously researched and distilled from his personal wartime papers and a multitude of other sources. John Garth argues that the foundation of tragic experience in the First World War is the key to Middle-earth's enduring power. Tolkien used his mythic imagination not to escape from reality but to reflect and transform the cataclysm of his generation. While his contemporaries surrendered to disillusionment, he kept enchantment alive, reshaping an entire literary tradition into a form that resonates to this day.
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BarbaraJean
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This was a mixed bag for me. The literary parts were so interesting, seeing the growth of Tolkien‘s early work and ideas, and the development of his mythology. I was fascinated by the connections the author traced between Tolkien‘s early writing, his life leading up to the war years, and his experiences in the war. But unfortunately, so much of the war part was a slog for me. Maybe I‘d have gotten more out of this ⤵️

BarbaraJean (Cont‘d) if I‘d taken time to research the relevant details of WWI, but honestly, I was in this for the Tolkien part and the Middle-earth part and not so much the war details. The parts I found most fascinating were the last few sections, discussing the overall influence of the war on Tolkien and his writing. I am glad I read it, and grateful for the #FellowshipofTolkien putting it on my radar! 1mo
Daisey I think this one is so interesting, but I also have a pretty strong interest in historical aspects of WWI as well. Glad you did decide to read it with us. 1mo
JazzFeathers So glad it was worthwhile for you, despite everything. I fell over n love with WWI for reasons that have nothing to do with Tolkien. Imagine my delight when l discovered the connection. But for a long time l didn't want to know anything about the war, so l understand your feelings. 1mo
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Susanita
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I‘m at dinner with my husband and his friend. While they watch football, I‘ll read my book! And eat a piece of cake! #hyggehourreadathon

TheBookHippie I love cake. 🍰 2mo
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Daisey
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I finished my audio reread a few days ago, but this morning I revisited the postscript to more closely consider Garth‘s discussion of the way writers wrote about WWI and specifically its influence on Tolkien‘s work.

This quote emphasizes one of the key aspects of Tolkien‘s work that I love. Many of his characters are simple people who just keep going and make a difference in their own small ways.

#FellowshipOfTolkien #quote #KindleQotes

wordslinger42 I wasn‘t able to join in for this one, but I‘m looking forward to reading it at some point! 2mo
Daisey @wordslinger42 It‘s a really good one! I‘ll look forward to hearing your thoughts whenever you get to read it. 2mo
CatLass007 I learned a lot from this book. I‘m going to ask a question that you‘ve probably already answered, but I just can‘t remember. Is there a tag list for this group or should I just use the search function to look for posts? Please write it in big red letters and stamp it on my forehead. 1mo
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Daisey @CatLass007 We do usually have a tag list, but I didn‘t do a very good job of keeping track of who wanted to be tagged for this book and also posted very little. 1mo
CatLass007 Okay. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Please consider me on the tag list for everything. I have a lot of Tolkien on audio, but I learned when we read the Silmarillion that having both the audio and the print version of certain books is soooo much better. I liked Letters from Father Christmas last year but that is definitely one best read in print so I‘m gifting it to myself this year. 1mo
Daisey I will and thanks for mentioning Father Christmas. It reminded me to post about rereading for this year. 1mo
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Daisey
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I finished my audio reread a few days ago, but this morning I revisited the postscript to more closely consider Garth‘s discussion of the way writers wrote about WWI and specifically its influence on Tolkien‘s work.

I found this quote from Verlyn Flieger enlightening as it makes such an interesting comparison between a return from war and a return from Faerie.

#FellowshipOfTolkien #quote #KindleQuotes #WWI

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Daisey
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Fellow Tolkien Readers,
How are we doing on the readalong? I apologize that life has gotten in the way again, so I‘m a bit behind as well as not sharing much. I just finished chapter 6 today, ending with Tolkien going off to war and wondering if he will ever see Edith again.

#FellowshipOfTolkien #audiobook #nonfiction

BarbaraJean I thought the early chapters were so interesting, seeing Tolkien‘s early work and ideas, and the development of his mythology. I finished chapter 8 today and this part is a bit of a slog! The descriptions of battle maneuvers, etc. are pretty dry. 2mo
Daisey @BarbaraJean I‘ve really enjoyed this reread so far. Now, I‘ll be curious to see if it slows down for me in the next few chapters. 2mo
BarbaraJean I‘m interested to hear what others think—it may be just me! I had a hard time picturing the various areas in my head! 2mo
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Susanita
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I‘m very late posting my goals for @TheAromaofBooks #birthdaybashreadathon and late wishing her a happy birthday. I won‘t possibly read all of this before tomorrow but I‘m making progress on all.

TheAromaofBooks Yay!!! Enjoy!!!! 2mo
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JazzFeathers
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#FellowshipOfTolkien

Loved the narrative way in which Garth I troduces this group of young men.
I already care abou them.

kspenmoll I want to read this.🧡 3mo
JazzFeathers @kspenmoll Join the readalonh! We've just started! 😁 3mo
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JazzFeathers
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#FellowshipOfTolkien

Starting now 😁

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Daisey
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Listening to chapter 1, I realized some of these Ishnesses are included in the book about Tolkien‘s art that I have.

#FellowshipOfTolkien

georgeknowles Wonderful 3mo
JenniferEgnor I really enjoyed the movie that came out about this. 3mo
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JazzFeathers Haven't started the book yet. I hope tomorrow. But l finished Sir Gawain!!!! 3mo
JazzFeathers @JenniferEgnor l loved the film too. 3mo
Daisey @JenniferEgnor @JazzFeathers I actually still haven‘t watched it. 😬 At first I was nervous to see how it was done and then I just never did. Maybe after finishing this reread . . . 3mo
Daisey @JazzFeathers Glad you‘ve finished Gawain! Looking forward to seeing what you have to share about this one. 3mo
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Today‘s the day we start reading Tolkien and the Great War. This is a fantastic nonfiction read about Tolkien, and I‘m so looking forward to rereading and discussing with the group. Life is a bit busy at the moment, so although I have an ebook I‘ll probably listen to the audiobook more.

#FellowshipOfTolkien

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LitsyEvents
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Repost for @Jazzfeathers

The next #FellowshipOfTolkien read is Tolkien and the Great War by John Garth. Our plan is about 10-15 pages a day starting on October 1.

See original post at https://www.litsy.com/web/post/2782919

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JazzFeathers
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#FellowshipOfTolkien

Sorry for the delay! Here's the schedule for “Tolkien and the Great War“.
It's about 10-15 pages a day, so hopefully is a manageable pace even in this busy season.

I read it during the pandemic, and it is one of the best books I've read about Tolkien. Full of information I haven't read anywhere else. I think it will also be great to discuss.

Hope to see many of you join! 😊

Susanita My reading dance card is FULL but I think I need to join you in this. 3mo
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JazzFeathers @Susanita Come oooooonnnn!!! It\'s a fantastic book! 😁 (edited) 3mo
BarbaraJean I‘m rearranging my October reading list now so that I can join in! 3mo
kspenmoll I would love to join- looking for a copy. 3mo
TheAromaofBooks Oh this sounds so intriguing!! The library has a copy so I\'m in. But I\'ll probably need those catch up days 😂 3mo
Daisey I really enjoyed this when I read it as well. I‘m looking forward to discussing it with the group! I also don‘t know how much reading time I‘ll have, so I‘m going to pair the ebook with audio. 3mo
BethM I‘m not going to read this one but I‘ll follow along with the posts! 3mo
JazzFeathers @BarbaraJean So Happy to have you 😁 3mo
JazzFeathers @kspenmoll So very happy to have you! 3mo
JazzFeathers @TheAromaofBooks 😂 I suppose many of us will, so l made sure to include them 😆 3mo
JazzFeathers @Daisey Ever since l read itI thought l'd live to reread it with the Fellowship 😁 3mo
JazzFeathers @BethM Wiil love to hear what you think 😁 3mo
BarbaraJean @kspenmoll My library doesn‘t have it in print, but I found it on Hoopla—both audio and ebook. 3mo
CatLass007 The audiobook I have doesn‘t have a preface. It goes straight to the Prologue. I guess I‘ll jump in tomorrow. (edited) 3mo
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JazzFeathers
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Finished this today and totally, totally loved it.
Garth made a superb work. Great research on the primary resources. I've found here information that l've never read before.
Loved the insight into young Tolkien's life. His live for words and medieval England. His brother-like bond to the TCBS members. His romance with Edith. His war experience.

This helped me to understand his work so much better.

#FellowshipOfTolkien

Daisey I really enjoyed this one, and I agree that it would be great to read together sometime. 5y
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JazzFeathers
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I'm so annoyed that l don't seem to be able to take full advantage of the lockdown. One would think l'd be reading like crazy. Instead l've been reading even less than usual.
But lately, l've gotten back in the habit. Looks like.

I'm adoring reading about young Tolkien. He was such an unusual, talented and quite extravagant young man #FellowshipOfTolkien

The Mena House is also quite enjoyable.

Can't complain of my current reads 😊

Deifio Good recommendation for the Tolkien book. I've always wanted to read more about the man himself, but there are soo many books, it's not easy to choose from. Thank you! 5y
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JazzFeathers
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Hey #FellowshipOfTolkien are we still going to start Morgoth's Ring at the end of the month? (It's my turn for the schedule 🙋) Because if we are, l have half a mind to read this while waiting 😁

BookwormAHN I believe that is the plan since I think one of us is still bookless. 5y
wordslinger42 I'm still waiting on my copy! It's supposed to get here Friday, but still hasn't shipped yet, so I'm not sure when it will arrive 5y
Daisey I‘m also still waiting on my copy. I ordered two books, one has arrived and the other hasn‘t. 5y
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Riveted_Reader_Melissa
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On sale on Kindle today!
#YearOfTolkien

JulAnna Thank you for the heads up! I am interested in this, I went to the Tolkien exhibit in NYC this winter and it was great! 6y
JazzFeathers I have the ltalian translation. Looking for an occasion to read it. Possibly before the film is out... which will be in September here in ltaly 😭 6y
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DuckOfDoom
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I was visiting friend rather spontaneously, so I could only open the #tolkieniteswap now! Thank you so much @Readergrrl it all looks so amazing!!
When will you be able to open your package? Tracking says it has been delivered on last Monday, I think.

@Sorceryandswords

Readergrrl I have just arrived home to CT from Scotland today. Picking up my mail from my neighbor tomorrow!! I will post pics ASAP. So excited!! 6y
Sophoclessweetheart Beautiful!! 6y
jenniferw88 Hi Esther, please can you email me your address as i didn't write it down after the #shortstoryswap? I may or may not have found a little present for you for Christmas. My email address is irene_gulliver@yahoo.co.uk (there's an underscore between irene and gulliver!) 6y
DuckOfDoom @jenniferw88 😮 I feel honored!!! I will send you an email soon :) 6y
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The Dead Marshes had always been a particularly haunting scene for me. The idea of the faces beneath the water is horribly vivid. Even more so when considering Tolkien's experience of the Somme in 1916, though he was quite reticent about the influence of either World Wars on his work #ThereAndBackAgain @jazzfeathers

JazzFeathers Great choice. I loved the Marshes last time l read LotR and honestly, whatever Tolkien said, l could not help but see the battlefield especially of WWI in many episodes of LotR. I suppose that some experience will just come out whether you want it or not. 6y
Moray_Reads @JazzFeathers it's unimaginable that the experience of war wouldn't affect his work in any way, deliberate or not 6y
Daisey Yes, listening to the tagged book really brought home to me the impact on his writing (purposeful or not) from those experiences and ultimately made the imagery more powerful in my rereading of the scenes as well. 6y
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JazzFeathers
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Can't wait to read these two, especially the one about the Great War. Or better, l am waiting to have a little time and squeeze this into my reading schedule

#YearOfTolkien #Tolkien

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JazzFeathers
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#LotRChapterADay

Sorry fellow one-ringers l haven't been posting yesterday and l'm not sure l'll be able to read tonight. It was a tough week and next week will be tough era.
But look what arrived today! 😍

A member of my Tolkien group gave a conference based on this book last Sunday. I really really enjoyed it.
Learning of Tolkien's experience during WWI shed such a new light on LOTR while l'm reading it. I had to get the book 😏

Moray_Reads This looks really interesting. Hope your weekend is less stressful x 7y
Daisey I listened to the audio of this book shortly after we started the chapter a day reading and really appreciated it. I think I may need to go back to it again during The Silmarillion. 7y
JazzFeathers @Moray_Reads The conference was based on the book and enriched by lots of photos of young Tolkien and clips from the war. It was very interesting 7y
JazzFeathers @Daisey l knew of course that the war (wars) had an impact on the novel, but knowing events better does make a huge difference in the interpretation of the story 7y
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Daisey
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Listening to this book often required serious concentration. It includes many details about the early development of Tolkien's languages and mythology before and during WWI as well as his life and relationships at the time. I had hoped for more about the impact of his war experience on LotR, but overall interesting for dedicated Tolkien fans.

As for the photo, my evening #audiowalk has been beautiful the last few days.

#audiobook #nonfiction

Daisey I really enjoyed listening to this along with the beginning our #LotRChapteraDay reading and may come back to parts of it again when we get to the Silmarillion. 7y
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Daisey
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This is relevant to chapter 8 "Flies and Spiders" that we read a few days ago, but in my listening today the author explained how the "attercop" for spider in Bilbo's song came from Tolkien's study and translation of the Middle English poem "The Owl and the Nightingale." It's not a made up word but one from the past due to the constantly changing English language.

The image of the poem comes from the British Library website.

#LotRChapteraDay

InLibrisVeritas That's really cool! I was wondering what it meant. 7y
DivineDiana So interesting! Thank you for sharing! 7y
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Daisey
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Supplementing my #LotRChapteraDay reading with some nonfiction audio! I'm not far yet, but it's interesting and packed with information, as well as currently available on #Hoopla.

#nonfiction #audiobook

Riveted_Reader_Melissa I'm going to need to go and look for that one now! Thanks for sharing!! 7y
JazzFeathers I've been meaning to read this one. 7y
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mylamalinalda
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Thinking about reading this book next month. 📚✨

I've only ever heard great things about this so I'm excited to read it. Have you read it?
#Tolkien #TolkienCollection #JohnGarth

emmekamalei Yup! I think we talked about this on Insta. 😂 it's so good! 8y
emmekamalei Very information heavy though, it must be said! Probably best absorbed in smallish doses. 8y
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bochord
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Love it

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BuechergnomMimi
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I love this #Tolkien picture. The book is really gripping, so much background information and the building of a whole world in the first stages. Love it!