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Babel: Or the Necessity of Violence: An Arcane History of The Oxford Translators' Revolution | R. F. Kuang
From award-winning author R. F. Kuang comes Babel, a thematic response to The Secret History? and a tonal retort to Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell that grapples with student revolutions, colonial resistance, and the use of language and translation as the dominating tool of the British empire. Traduttore, traditore: An act of translation is always an act of betrayal. 1828. Robin Swift, orphaned by cholera in Canton, is brought to London by the mysterious Professor Lovell. There, he trains for years in Latin, Ancient Greek, and Chinese, all in preparation for the day hell enroll in Oxford Universitys prestigious Royal Institute of Translationalso known as Babel. Babel is the world's center for translation and, more importantly, magic. Silver workingthe art of manifesting the meaning lost in translation using enchanted silver barshas made the British unparalleled in power, as its knowledge serves the Empires quest for colonization. For Robin, Oxford is a utopia dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge. But knowledge obeys power, and as a Chinese boy raised in Britain, Robin realizes serving Babel means betraying his motherland. As his studies progress, Robin finds himself caught between Babel and the shadowy Hermes Society, an organization dedicated to stopping imperial expansion. When Britain pursues an unjust war with China over silver and opium, Robin must decide Can powerful institutions be changed from within, or does revolution always require violence?
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mcctrish
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31% and I am entranced - decorations are out and lights are on the tree but now I have to make dinner 😡 and deal with laundry and put sheets on my bed and go to work tomorrow. 1 air pod is dead and the second will die soon 😆

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mcctrish @dabbe Denise thank you for the advent calendar ❤️❤️ I‘m downloading it now to be ready for tomorrow 8h
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mcctrish
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Christmasizing has begun. I am LOVING this story and loving it so much on audio. I hope I can get it done before Libby claws it back - I‘ve been working away for over an hour and I‘m only at 10% 😬

willaful Fingers crossed! 12h
TheBookHippie I have the faith 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 12h
BookishMarginalia That‘s a chunkster! 10h
mcctrish @BookishMarginalia 22 hours 😬 10h
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quietlycuriouskate
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A suitably dark photo, I think!
For personal historical reasons this was a challenging read. Many years ago I could have translated on sight any piece of Latin you'd care to give me. (Best of times, worst of times: you know the drill.)
I adored all the stuff about translation and am totally here for word-nerds bringing down the Empire.

AlaMich I am a fellow word nerd and translation geek. I found the first half-ish of the book much more interesting than the second half for those reasons. 1w
Cathythoughts ♥️♥️♥️ 1w
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bookandbedandtea
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This was beautifully written. I loved the discussions about translation & the ways languages grow & change. Having translation used to power the magic of silver was intriguing. The necessity of fluency in far-flung languages being the driver behind colonialism while maintaining English attitudes of racism, classism, & sexism brought the tension. But I wish the author had made her "alternate history" a little more alternate; see spoiler comment.

bookandbedandtea I would have loved for Babel to have been toppled midway through the story and for us to see a world in which the Opium Wars didn't happen, England had lost a lot of her power, and decolonization was underway. 1mo
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MeJeMiller
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How do you not go through this book without having strong feelings and thoughts about half a dozen issues? It took me a while to get through because I ended up thinking where I stood on things like colonialism and the history and future of language.

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britt_brooke
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️.25

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Honeybeebooks
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A lot to unpack in this novel. It is a story of a Robin Swift, an orphan rescued from a cholera outbreak in Canton. He becomes the ward of an English professor and after years of study is accepted at Oxford University and the prestigious translation institute, Babel. At university Robin makes close friends and learns the empire building skill of silver working. A 4/5⭐️pick for this boarding school novel with a few twists.

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bookandbedandtea
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I'm taking a #mentalhealth day and am going to try to make progress on some of these buddy reads. (Except Babel, which I am- very slowly- reading for myself.) I have my tea, birds are singing, sun is shining, ahhhhh 😍 #BackPorchReading

AmyG Enjoy! 2mo
Cuilin Taking time for yourself is so important!! 💕 2mo
bookandbedandtea @AmyG @Cuilin It was a really good day! I'm glad I took the time. 😊 2mo
janeycanuck I very much enjoy that a mental health day for you involves murder mysteries ❤️ 2mo
bookandbedandtea @janeycanuck 😆 I didn't even realize that! They're just the books I'm currently reading with groups. 2mo
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BookBr
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This was an intense, driven book, rich with history and a clear love of language and the power it holds. A damning condemnation of imperialism, being able to see the world through Robin‘s eyes was very impactful. Though there was little happiness to be found in this book, I found I loved it for its unflinching honesty, wealth of history, and the magic we can find in the ordinary. The footnotes added a contextual depth that made a big difference.

BookBr This was a beautiful, difficult book, that challenged me in a lot of ways. R.F. Kuang‘s world building is just stunning, and her characters are lovable and richly drawn. There‘s just so much to love about this book, even though it ends ambiguously and still in a state of solitude. I think I loved it even as it has left me unsettled. 3mo
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Jari-chan
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Well, I thought I would need half of the month for this audiobook. Turns out, I got addicted and ran through it in almost no time. I get that not all people like the all the monologues and the educated talks, but I did. It's amazing how Kuang fusions actual history and fantasy together, I'm still stunned. Also, how we see Robin growing and transforming just blew me. The older he grows, the more he understands and changes his points of view.

lil1inblue I really loved this book. 💓 3mo
Jari-chan @lil1inblue 💖💖💖 3mo
PuddleJumper Ooo that sounds amazing 3mo
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BookBr
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Finally starting this one ahead of #Katabasis — a buddy read with my book bestie😊 Seems perfect for a quiet Saturday afternoon…

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CrystalE02
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I found this book really interesting. I have never read anything by this author before. I loved the layout of the book. I want to read more by this author. I rated the book a 4 out of 5 stars.

Karisa I loved it too! I just started the tagged book by her and it‘s good so far too. 5mo
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dabbe 💙🩵💙 5mo
Amiable This one is still on my TBR—I need to get to it! 5mo
BookmarkTavern This is set in England?! I need to bump it up my TBR! Thanks for posting! 5mo
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BookishTrish
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After My Friends earlier this month, I thought it‘d be a long while before another book took possession of my heart and mind. Nope. This book was most excellent. I need a sequel.

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ReadingOver50
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I really enjoyed the first part of the book. Following Robin as he travels to London and then to Oxford. I loved hearing about his studies, and his first year at Oxford. He has been sheltered, so soon becomes aware of the racism, sexism and classism surrounding him. He begins to get radicalized and wants to make changes in the world. I thought the magic system was interesting. The silver working produced a more subtle magic that was fascinating.

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melissajayne
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Mehso-so

3.75⭐️ Set up for the story felt like it took too long; excellent story though #2025 #fiction #magicalrealism #fantasy #historicalfiction

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Aconight
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$3 gem! Happy donating Saturday. Hope everyone is having a fantastic weekend!!

TheBookHippie Ooooo!!!! 7mo
Aconight @TheBookHippie got super lucky. Was about to walk out the door & spotted her 💕 7mo
TheBookHippie @Aconight my daughter adores this book! I paid a bit more at Hanukkah 🤣 7mo
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Awk_Word_Smith
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An incredible story about white fragility dressed up in gothic dark academia. I loved it. The MC, a young Cantonese boy, seemingly rescued from death and poverty, is groomed by an Oxford professor to join the illustrious and elite translators. Kuang is a masterful storyteller weaving together class, race, socioeconomics, and sexism centering around language—the only real barrier dividing humans and complicating true understanding. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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SanjanaGhosh
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“The word loss was inadequate. Loss just meant a lack, meant something was missing, but it did not encompass the totality of this severance, this terrifying un-anchoring from all that he‘d ever known.”

I enjoyed the book and special shoutout to the number and references to Bangla and Bengalis in the book.

Too much jargon however!

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks Beautiful photo 📷 8mo
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pyjamaviking
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I finished Babel! #5starread #fantasy #babel

dabbe 🙌🏻🤩🙌🏻 8mo
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DebbieGrillo
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Babel puts a magical spin on 19th-century British colonialism. In this world, silver bars engraved with words from two languages that don‘t perfectly translate can create powerful magic. But at its core, the novel makes it clear that racism is the driving force behind England‘s colonization efforts. This was a heavy and thought-provoking read that should come with a trigger warning for racism, sexism, violence, and suicide.

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Awk_Word_Smith
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LOVED Kuang‘s Poppy Wars Trilogy. Finally starting this!

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LatrelWhite
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About last night!❤️❤️❤️

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Rachel.Rencher
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Okay, I finished Babel and I have some mixed feelings. I loved the dark academia vibes of 1830s Oxford and I felt like the topics of anticolonialism, racism, sexism, and classism were handled well. I just don't think this book needed to be a fantasy. The magic elements are cool, but they feel forced in some respects. I almost wish it had just been a dark historical thriller.
I'm going to add some more thoughts in comments with the spoiler tag.

Rachel.Rencher First of all, they're working with SO much silver that they're described as glistening with silver dust all over their clothes. They're also using mercury. How come the health effects of that are never brought up? 9mo
Rachel.Rencher Second of all, Kuang follows history so closely, maybe changing the course of events by a year or two (although I couldn't figure out why), that the silver was superfluous for most of the story. There were a few cool tricks that it could perform, but why was it set up like this was going to be some big change maker in the world? It never got to the level of necessity or excitement that I was hoping for. 9mo
Rachel.Rencher Finally, the magic system bugged me. I liked the idea of capturing the essence of meaning that gets lost in translation. That's a fun topic that I've thought about before, but I thought the execution of it was a tad flimsy and wish she'd put more thought into the necessity of the silver in the whole process. 9mo
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Rachel.Rencher That said, I think the book really does do a fantastic job of highlighting greed in leadership, corruption, and complacency in exchange for a convenient life. All very topical. 9mo
Ruthiella I totally agree with you. The magic was unnecessary because of how closely the book adhered to history. Also, I prefer a little more subtlety and shades of gray in my bad guys. 9mo
Rachel.Rencher @Ruthiella Yes! I agree. The characters in all were very flat, but finding a trove of letters spelling out the entire war was a bit...convenient. 9mo
melissajayne I‘m currently reading the book and I totally agree with your sentiments 7mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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I just got the news that I have another snow day tomorrow! Friday will *likely* be my only work day this week. I'm very much so appreciating the extra time to read and get stuff done around the house and work the shop.

P.s. notice the Corgi ears?

SheReadsAndWrites 🐾❤️😂 9mo
JenP Im reading this now. Do you like it so far? 9mo
Rachel.Rencher @JenP I love it! I'm halfway through and should finish by tomorrow. 9mo
LoverOfLearning This is a great book! 9mo
marleed Those ear tips! 9mo
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LoverOfLearning
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A historical fiction fantasy about the importance and dangers of translating language. How does culture and racism play a role in how words are translated? Is translation always an act of violence?

A story of survival, self-discovery, education, power, and betrayal.

It's an incredible read. 5 stars 🌟⭐️🌟⭐️🌟
Have you read this one?

TrishB I loved it ❤️ 9mo
rachaich Amazing book. I can't believe she wrote that and Yellowface and her trilogy and is still not 30. Such talent. 9mo
Texreader I thought it was a fascinating read 9mo
LoverOfLearning @rachaich actually insane! Love that for her 9mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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My sweet little reading buddy 🥺

Ruthiella ❤️🐶❤️🐶❤️ 9mo
BookmarkTavern Hi sweetheart! ❤️❤️❤️ 9mo
Texreader All the love!!💕 9mo
LoverOfLearning A great book! Are you enjoying it so far? 9mo
Rachel.Rencher @LoverOfLearning I'm loving it! 9mo
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Rachel.Rencher
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Started this one & so far, I love it! I'm realizing that fantasy *has* to be told in the 3rd person for me to enjoy it. I was happy to see that this one is.

LoverOfLearning This is an excellent read! Hope you enjoy it 9mo
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LoverOfLearning
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An overview of some of my favorite books from 2024 :)

Yes, I'm behind on this, but I'm back to Litsy. That's what matters. 🥰😅

Ruthiella Never too late! 😃 9mo
Lands Welcome back! It‘s good to see you. 9mo
Jari-chan Yay! Welcome back! And it really is never too late. Project Hail Mary is such a great book 💖 9mo
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mhillis Great list! I also enjoyed 9mo
Amor4Libros Welcome back! Great list, I LOVE the Shadow of the Wind series ❤️ 9mo
Librarybelle Welcome back! 9mo
Julsmarshall Happy to see you! 9mo
eeclayton I also read and loved The Secret History last year. Welcome back! 9mo
rachelsbrittain Ah yes Babel is an all-time great! I'm so excited for Kuang's new book coming out this year 9mo
LoverOfLearning @Jari-chan So good! But honestly, I liked The Martian a bit better. I think because I read it first. But I was hooked. Both are fantastic though! And thank you :) 9mo
LoverOfLearning @mhillis @eeclayton such a good one! My bookclub had a great time discussing this one! 9mo
LoverOfLearning @rachelsbrittain oh me too! I see people with the ARC and I'm so jealous of them! 9mo
Lesliereadsalot Wasn‘t A Little Life amazing? I couldn‘t believe the intensity! 9mo
LoverOfLearning @Lesliereadsalot yes! I couldn't pull myself away. It was beautifully tragic. I've worked in the social work/trauma field for 8 years. I felt it was an honor to hear such a personal story so I could learn from it. Fiction or not this is someone's reality and it deserves recognition. Was such a powerful read. I cried the whole time! 9mo
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Gryffleclaw95
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⭐️⭐️⭐️

“Babel” is not an easy read. Racism, slavery, and colonialism are major themes in this book, and Robin‘s journey is both empowering yet heartbreaking. I am in awe of Kuang‘s world building and attention to numerous languages. All of the above confirm “Babel” being worth the hype, it just wasn‘t for me personally.

LoverOfLearning I loved this one. 9mo
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Gryffleclaw95

“Because you‘re a good translator.‘ Ramy leaned back on his elbows. ‘That‘s just what translation is, I think. That‘s all speaking is. Listening to the other and trying to see past your own biases to glimpse what they‘re trying to say. Showing yourself to the world, and hoping someone else understands.”

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CarolynM
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Thank you so much, Barbara, for these lovely books and for your kind words. I love the little Christmas Tree band too🥰 Although I hadn‘t stacked Blue Sisters I have been thinking that I would like to read it, so you must have read my mind😆 Thank you again, my friend.

Cathythoughts Lovely 🥰 11mo
BarbaraBB Glad it‘s there although rather late 🤦🏻‍♀️ I hope you‘ll love both books! 11mo
TheKidUpstairs Blue Sisters just barely missed out on my Auld Lang Spine list, it's really good! 11mo
squirrelbrain Blue Sisters is so good! ❤️ 11mo
LoverOfLearning Babel is so good! One of my top 5 from 2024 that I read. 9mo
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lil1inblue
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My 2024 favorites:

Fiction: Babel by R.F. Kuang
Non-Fiction: A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear
Poetry: The Wild Iris by Louise Glück

In 2025, I'm going to set my reading goal low and increase it as I meet it. It worked well for me in 2024. I'm also not putting time limits on my reading challenges. (Except the Les Mis buddy read.) They will take as long as they take. 🥰 I hope we all have a fabulous year of reading!

#2024wrapup #2025goals

LoverOfLearning Babel was so good. One of my favorites from 2024! 9mo
lil1inblue @LoverOfLearning So, so good! 🤩🤩🤩 9mo
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Schnoebs
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Bailedbailed

Idk, why I thought I would actively want to read this. I really have not found many historical books that I truly enjoy and can get invested in. Even with the fantastical subplot, I just didn‘t care. Honestly, I think this was more a peer pressure thing where I saw so many people loving the book and I gave into the hype. #dnf

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dabbe
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#12daysofchristmas @Andrew65

Dark academia, meticulous etymology, bildungsroman, speculative fiction that reads like fiction and NF at the same time ... I was completely gobsmacked.

Andrew65 I‘m yet to read this. 11mo
TheBookHippie My daughter loved this read. 11mo
Larkken The footnotes were my fav part!! I love a good footnote 😍 11mo
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dabbe @Andrew65 It's so worth the read. 11mo
dabbe @TheBookHippie I loved it so much more than YELLOWFACE. Plus, it was so much more different and academic! 11mo
dabbe @Larkken They were, weren't they? 🤩 11mo
AllDebooks Such a good novel 11mo
dabbe @AllDebooks Agree 💯! 11mo
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Lands
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Yay! Used.

LoverOfLearning Love me a good thrifted book! 9mo
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LadyCait84
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Word-nerds are rarely depicted as fervent rebels, or at least not the kind who might believe the sword is mightier…

But it makes sense here, as a multi-national cohort at a fictional Institute of Translation reckon with the ways they (and the global population at large) are manipulated and exploited by the seekers of empire. But their refusal to participate in the status quo (as always) has consequences.

LoverOfLearning An excellent read! 9mo
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BookMaven9
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Bailedbailed

Yea I just couldn‘t stay awake long enough for this.

dabbe #allhailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 1y
Lesliereadsalot I hear you. I read to the end but was disappointed. 1y
BookMaven9 I struggled so hard and wanted to make it but just couldn‘t. I didn‘t miss anything right? 1y
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KCofKaysville
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Robin confronts Lovell about his Chinese mother.

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staci.reads
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I have a lot of feelings about this book, and at one point, I was sure it would be a 5-star book for me, but I struggled with the ending, and I felt the footnotes detracted from the reading experience. Overall, though, it was a great read! July #AuthorAMonth. @Soubhiville

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dabbe
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#AboutABook
#NewToYouAuthor
@Eggs
@Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks

I would never have heard of RF Kuang without last year's #CampLitsy and YELLOWFACE. I read BABEL for this year's #AuthorAMonth, and I loved it even more! She's already a prolific author, and she's only in her 20s!

lil1inblue This was a new to me author this year, too. I'm so excited to read more of her work! 1y
dabbe @lil1inblue 💚💙💚 1y
Eggs Another author I haven‘t read…! 1y
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dabbe @Eggs 🩶🖤🩶 1y
IMASLOWREADER @dabbe enjoyed yellow face and babel is on my list 1y
dabbe @IMASLOWREADER 🩶🖤🩶 1y
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vonnie862
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I did not fall in love with this book like many did, but I did like it. I highly enjoyed learning the etymology of languages and I really wanted to know how the book ended. However, I think I would have had a better experience reading the physical format because I found myself losing focus a few times with the audio.
3.5⭐️

#PopupReadathon @AmandaBlaze #authoramonth @Soubhiville
#BookspinBingo #8 @TheAromaofBooks

AmandaBlaze Nice review! 1y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 1y
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Texreader
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#wondrousWednesday

1) I picked a rather obvious name 😃

2) Drive, crafting, laundry, clean house, play solitaire, or cook (for easy but time-consuming meal).

3) Tagged.

Eggs Are you Native Texan? I love that you cook 🧑‍🍳 1y
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Maria_Pulver
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Bailedbailed

Bailed after 1/3 of the book: huge disappointment. There is an amazing world where words have power and translators are doing magic. But there is no action at all, the characters lack substance and the anti-colonial agenda is being pushed down the reader's throat with much force, but little understanding of nuances
#told_by_a_woman
#bookclub

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DHill
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I loved Yellowface so not sure why I‘m surprised that I‘m enjoying this so much but, I‘m really enjoying this dark academia novel. The footnote reading in the audio version though, not so much.

#AuthorAMonth
@Soubhiville

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vlwelser
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Pickpick

Tbh this was a bit of a slog but I very much appreciated all of the linguistics involved. The author clearly did so much research.

#AuthorAMonth @Soubhiville

#BookSpinBingo @TheAromaofBooks

Soubhiville Agreed, very heavily researched book I imagine. 1y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! 1y
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Melismatic
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Ultimately enjoyable, though the pacing in the first half leaves a lot to be desired. Would round up to 4 out of 5 stars. If you can push through to when the real story starts in the back half, I‘d say it‘s worth it. #AuthorAMonth