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Aristotle and Dante Dive Into the Waters of the World
Aristotle and Dante Dive Into the Waters of the World | Benjamin Alire Saenz
The highly anticipated sequel to the critically acclaimed, multiple award-winning novel Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe is an achingly romantic, tender tale sure to captivate fans of Adam Silvera and Mary H.K. Choi. In Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, two boys in a border town fell in love. Now, they must discover what it means to stay in love and build a relationship in a world that seems to challenge their very existence. Ari has spent all of high school burying who he really is, staying silent and invisible. He expected his senior year to be the same. But something in him cracked open when he fell in love with Dante, and he can't go back. Suddenly he finds himself reaching out to new friends, standing up to bullies of all kinds, and making his voice heard. And, always, there is Dante, dreamy, witty Dante, who can get on Ari's nerves and fill him with desire all at once. The boys are determined to forge a path for themselves in a world that doesn't understand them. But when Ari is faced with a shocking loss, he'll have to fight like never before to create a life that is truthfully, joyfully his own.
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Read4life
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Andrew65 Not heard of this but it sounds good. 😁 1mo
CoffeeNBooks I loved Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe! I haven't read this one yet. 1mo
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NataliePatalie
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Mehso-so

I liked the first book a lot, and kind of wish they'd just left it as a standalone. This one felt very repetitive and even cringey at times. The audiobook is read by Lin Manuel Miranda, which I did enjoy.

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LibraryFairy
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Honestly, I liked this book more than the first one! I felt the story and characters were incredible. The ending was really good. An incredible LGBTQ+ story featuring an interesting perspective from a scary time. I haven‘t seen aids actually talked about in a young adult book and I was glad that it was discussed. The pacing was a little off but overall a really good story that I loved!

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StellaDz
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Unlike the first, this was emotional, heart-wrenching and tough. They are some rough waters. Set during the AIDS pandemic, Aristotle is just beginning to discover who he is (part of which is his identity as a gay man). This book, although simply written, is hard. Although it started to feel like every character was a philosopher, I‘m glad I finished it. The two books together, are sweet and magical, as well as real. They are life.

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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BookNerd9906
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I wanted to love it. And there were parts I loved, but there were parts I didn‘t. I listened to the audiobook narrated by Lin-Manuel Miranda and I could literally listen to him narrate a dishwasher manual and be happy so it‘s a soft pick for me.

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shortsarahrose
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Thank you so much @kellyann28 for my #sliceofsummerswap package! I am looking forward to seeing what happens next with Aristotle and Dante! I love all the pampering goodies (definitely doing a mask today!), the coozie is perfect for a sparking water, and the bookmarks are super cute (love the Leslie Knope one).

shortsarahrose Thanks @Catsandbooks for hosting! 7mo
kellyann28 Yay! I'm glad you like it ❤️ 7mo
Catsandbooks So fun! Have a great summer! ☀️ 7mo
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Sarahreadstoomuch
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Mehso-so

This is a tough one…. It doesn‘t live up to the first book, or at least my memory of it, but that‘s not just it. I think that a lot of it is just overwritten, a bit repetitive and a lot of extra. Then every little issue/conflict was fixed easy-peasy. There is a moment in which a minor character is pushed to come out - and that just didn‘t sit well with me, or really the rest of the story I think. Oof. I wanted to love it so much.

Nikki_E Oh man, that‘s disappointing.I loved the first one so much. 9mo
Sarahreadstoomuch @Nikki_E me too. Others have liked this one, and while I didn‘t hate it, I‘m not going out of my way to recommend it. 9mo
TheBookHippie I had the same exact thoughts… 9mo
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PickettT
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Onwards to the sequel!

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AileenRR
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Of course it‘s not as good as the first book, but I liked it anyway. The story was in turns slow and overly dramatic, but I liked seeing Ari‘s growth and the development of his relationships. And I liked being reminded of how much I like reading about good, smart kids.

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RebL
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The youth participating in programs at my work talked to Mr. Sáenz, who is insightful with a breadth of experience, but I didn‘t quite finish this book. Having finished, I can say it‘s stronger than the first book.
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The teeny inconsistency captured here probably would have blown by me if I weren‘t listening while reading. Miranda‘s narration corrected the error & changed “house” to “room.”

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TJAhearne
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At first, I struggled with this book. My mind was not open and then things happened in Florida politics and with Disney, and I began to have different conversations with different people who began to make sense and proved my thinking was clouded. This book made me think, made me love, made me cry, and made me a better person.

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Branwen
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"Don't ever let anybody tell you that war is something beautiful or heroic. When people say war is hell, war is hell. Cowards start wars and the brave fight them"

This quote hits pretty hard today given the current circumstances in Ukraine. ?

mrsmarch “War is war and hell is hell, and of the two, war is a lot worse….There are no innocent bystanders in hell. But war is chock full of them…In fact, except for a few of the brass, almost everyone involved [in war] is an innocent bystander.” — my beloved Hawkeye Pierce, in MASH S5 Ep20. 11mo
Chrissyreadit 💔😢I‘m in awe of the courage being demonstrated in the Ukraine. 11mo
Branwen @mrsmarch Wow. That is a powerful quote! ❤ @Chrissyreadit Same, my friend, same 💔 11mo
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Read4life
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4 bingos on my January #BookSpinBingo board.

Finished my #BookSpin and #DoubleSpin books, too.

TheAromaofBooks Yay!! Fantastic month!! 12mo
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SiriGuruDevSingh
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Poetic, romantic, pure enjoyment ❤️

britt_brooke Such a pretty photo! 13mo
SiriGuruDevSingh @britt_brooke Thank you!❤️ 13mo
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IndoorDame
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Clwojick So cute! I love it. 13mo
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IndoorDame
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Clwojick Awesome! 13mo
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IndoorDame
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I didn‘t completely fall in love with this like I did with the first one, and I can‘t quite put my finger on why because this was a beautiful story. It‘s only real flaw was that it was a bit morose which fits the time period of the story, but not of the moment so maybe I found it harder to loose myself in. #Booked2022 #AComingOutStory #PopSugar2022 #ABIPOCRomanceNovel @BarbaraTheBibliophage @4thhouseontheleft @Cinfhen

Cinfhen I love the cover 🥰 13mo
BarbaraTheBibliophage Keep hearing good things about A & D! 👍🏻 13mo
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annamatopoetry
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Last book of last year. Weak pick - I didn't find it as engrossing as the first, although it picked up towards the end. More rooted in the specific time (the eighties) than the first, which sort of floated in the second half of the twentieth century, barring some details. Still nice to see Ari and Dante again.

annamatopoetry Oh and I don't want to keep this hard copy - let me know if you want it and I'll arrange to send it to you! 13mo
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annamatopoetry
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Got started this morning, but hopefully it should be quick enough.

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ilyssa.g
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Mehso-so

I was really disappointed in this one. The first book is one of my fave books of all time. However, this one is repetitive. There were so many tropes and overall predictable things. Many problems were wrapped up too simplistically. I didn‘t like that almost Ari‘s entire focus is on Dante; more occurs in senior year of high school than a relationship. I also found many grammatical and spelling errors. So disappointing for me!

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BayouGirl85
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Saenz did it again. Ari and Dante are so raw and real. Even though they are younger in the book than I am in life I can empathized with their struggled as we all have them in our high school days. But Ari and Dante feel like old souls to me. They have a different clarity of the world yet lack an understanding of how to navigate their speed bumps. Their love is breathtaking.

December Book 18/25 #LitsyLove #bookspinbingo #wintergames2021

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WriterAtHeart
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This book was simply amazing. Book 1 was fantastic and this just continued the legacy of Aristotle and Dante. I cried a few times towards the back half of the novel and I definitely want to reread this.

CBee I still need to read the first! Very much want to 😊 13mo
PaperbackPrincess19 Still need to read book 1 13mo
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fredamans
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I loved them in book 1 and I love them still. ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

Read my full review: http://www.fredasvoice.com/2021/11/aristotle-and-dante-dive-into-waters-of.html

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MaggieCarr
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Avoiding the monstrosity that is 'Mount Unmatched Socks' with a viable excuse--- my book is due tomorrow.

I reread the first book because I forgot the emotions right at the end and since this title literally picks up where the other stops I knew I needed to read them in tandem. Both take place in the 80s but the decades don't erase the intolerance of so many. The complete acceptance of both Aristotle and Dante a parents is amazing. 5⭐

fredamans I'm reading this one now and was immediately pulled back into Ari and Dante's love story! 😊 1y
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Mirazzles
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I was really enjoying this. However, now I‘m feeling conflicted. The first 150 pages were good, and now, I don‘t know if I want to finish this book… 🤷‍♀️😔

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Book_yogi
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If I could describe this book in one word, that word would be, “hopeful.“

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chasjjlee
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Okay so.....The first half of this book is EVERYTHING. We are picking up where Ari and Dante left off and we get to see some beautiful moments between the two of them. And that is why I was so excited about this book, to see their relationship unfurl....and then that's not really what this book ended up being about. But it was still beautifully written I just wanted to see more Ari & Dante, I mean who wouldn't 😁?

⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 1/2

Nutmegnc Agreed. 1y
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Lauredhel
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This is possibly going to be my Most Disappointing book of the year. There is just so much unrealised potential, repetition, telling-not-showing. Honestly tedious. I was hoping for some sort of relationship development, character development, them getting involved in AIDS activism... SOMETHING.

GondorGirl Oh no! I was really looking forward to this one... 1y
Lauredhel @GondorGirl same!! I mean, it's possible you will like it a lot more than I did? But I guess I suggest not going in with high expectations. 1y
GondorGirl @Lauredhel Yeah... I mean, I already bought a copy, so I guess I read it... but I'm not hopeful. 1y
TheLudicReader Disappointing, the first book is soooo good. 1y
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readingjedi
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I disliked this & need to rant out my disappointment. I found it irritating, unrealistic, repetitive, facile, poorly written & cheesy. Yes, I get Ari wanted to kiss Dante but I didn't get much out of it after reading it for the 147th time. Someone/everyone cried every 7th line. Yet at the moment of the only genuine emotional event everyone acts weirdly flippant! Ari said/wrote/felt the same few things over & over & OVER again!!! More ⬇️⬇️⬇️

readingjedi All the finger combing of hair got annoying. Everyone is amazing & everyone loves one another - really?! There's no conflict whatsoever - trite, tortured teen angst doesn't count! Sorry, but no parents are that amazing all the time. Dialogue was cheesy/preachy. More ⬇️ ⬇️⬇️⬇️ 1y
readingjedi Ari and Dante's characters were inconsistent - they went from seemingly having the emotional maturity/social sophistication of 10 year olds to having the experience & wisdom of someone 3 times their age! The short sentences/chapter seemed gimmicky/got tedious. It was all just a bit overwrought yet kinda shallow at the same time. More ⬇️ ⬇️⬇️⬇️ 1y
readingjedi I felt there was an awful lot of 'telling' & not much convincing 'showing'. I have to say I found it childish and weak. So disappointed as I adored the first one. What's changed? Is it me? I've had my rant & will now shut up! 1y
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LiteraryinLawrence Oh NO! I am so sorry the sequel was such a disappointment! I have been wanting to read this because, like you, I loved the first one. I think I still will, but I‘ll be very curious whether I‘ll have the same impression. All of those things would really bother me too. 😬 1y
Lindy Wow! Good rant. 🏆 1y
TrishB @Lindy agree 😁 1y
SilverShanica I‘ve heard much the same from others. It‘s been quite a few years since the first one came out, and because of the current political climate, I suspect that this was pushed & rushed in order to get it out rather than letting the author work it out naturally. 1y
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readingjedi
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Just finished this one. I have it as a So-So currently but I really think it could be a Pan. I'm disappointed and kinda confused. I mean, I loved the first one - gave it a whopping 90% rating. This one....I think, I'm not sure really, but maybe....I hated it.

Full review to follow.

nichollinlove That's so disappointing to hear! I was so looking forward to this! 1y
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Mpcacher
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This is the sequel to the teen novel “Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe“, which I loved. This one picks up on the story featuring high school senior boys in love, but I did find the first part of the book rather slow and repetitive. Thankfully midway through the book the story picks up and I then enjoyed it. I really loved the characters in this series and would love to see it made into a movie. I give it 3.5/5.

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MatchlessMarie
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Finished this one today. Chiming in with everyone else who wanted an epilogue. Honestly even if we got one I still would have wanted more. I could never get tired of reading about these boys. A sequel very well done 💙😭 #OutstandingOctober #Scarathlon2021 #TeamSlaughter #BookSpinBingo +26 pts (Halloween mention)

Andrew65 Well done 👏👏👏 1y
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Mirazzles
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FINALLY!!!! 💛😊😀

GingerAntics I want to get this, but I have the other one in paperback, so it will bug me if this one is hardcover. 🤣😂🤣 1y
Mirazzles @GingerAntics I get that! My other one is in paperback but I just couldn‘t wait!! 1y
GingerAntics @AWildMandaPanda I‘m so bloody torn!!! 1y
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Mirazzles @GingerAntics haha I know what you mean! I just couldn‘t wait! I live in a rural area too so no local bookstores had it so I had to order it in! Haha 😂 1y
fredamans I need this book in my life! 1y
GingerAntics @AWildMandaPanda well, then you had no choice, really. 1y
Mirazzles @GingerAntics exactly… I‘m trying not to speed read it but that‘s proving very difficult! 1y
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annamatopoetry
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Ugh. My local bookstore didn't have it?!? So I felt cranky and petty and ordered it from Powells instead. And now I have to fucking wait I hate everything

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Apinlibraryland
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SO EXCITED to continue Aristotle and Dante‘s story!

Mirazzles I‘m picking my copy up from the post office after work today!! 😊 so excited! 1y
Nutmegnc Y‘all. Omg. When you read it PLEASE TAG ME. I MUST KNOW WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT THIS INCREDIBLE STORY. SO much to consider!! 1y
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Nutmegnc
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Y‘all. I am not okay. The beauty of these words. Oh, my heart.

Nutmegnc If you have read this see comment below: (edited) 1y
Nutmegnc I‘m gutted. It‘s so sweet and so tragic. I was expecting the dog to go first. I sobbed and sobbed. But I‘m hopeful. Can we get an epilogue? A short story? Tell me all your thoughts! I have no one to talk to about it! Halllppp. 1y
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JELEIGH
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NArrated by Lin Manuel Miranda- need I say more? Brilliant book and beautiful narration

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Nutmegnc
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It‘s every bit as good as I hoped. And Lin Manuel Miranda is BACK as the audio performer! I‘m trying not to inhale it..but it‘s a real struggle. Can we also talk about this amazing accidental picture?! I was going for the cover when it opened to the first page and my screenshot caught the transition. Couldn‘t have done on purpose but wow. I@love it@so@much.

Texreader That‘s so neat!! 1y
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bookishkai
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I‘m going in! I was too tired to read yesterday, after staying up till all hours finishing the new Vanderbeekers book.

This is one of my most anticipated fall reads, along with Billy Porter‘s memoir. I‘m so excited to read this.

LiteraryinLawrence I can‘t wait to hear what people think of this book! 1y
Nutmegnc It is soooo good!!! 1y
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Crinoline_Laphroaig
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My only complaint is I wanted an Epilogue. (Better yet would be another book.) To see the life Ari and Dante make for themselves. Because in my mind they're still happily together all these years later.

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Nutmegnc
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#freddiethetacocat is my reading companion today! He‘ll be ready for more rounds of fetch in about 3 seconds 🤪😩✋

BkClubCare What a sweetie 1y
wanderinglynn So cute! 🧡🐱 1y
Nutmegnc @BkClubCare give him about five minutes and we‘ll have #theorangemenace 🙄. The “trouble puffs” have got to go!! (edited) 1y
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Nutmegnc @wanderinglynn thank you. Mostly he warms my heart. Didn‘t know it needed warming 🥰🎃😻 1y
RaeLovesToRead So snoozy 🥰 1y
Michael_Gee 😻 1y
Nutmegnc @RaeLovesToRead @Michael_Gee He‘s the best snuggler. I try to run him out by making him chase things so he will rest. 🙀😺😹 1y
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Nutmegnc
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@Eggs 1. No. I‘ve been tempted but I‘m an eclectic reader and picky. 2. I use all the things! (For book recs, of course😜). Actually, I use some for work like Twitter and Pinterest, and some for chonky kitties like FB. Insta and TikTok are my book media. 3. To finally have in my hands Aristotle and Dante book 2. I‘m melting!

Eggs Thanks for joining in 📚🎃🧡 1y
Michael_Gee I have so much already on my TBR that the idea of a book subscription box stresses me out, BUT I am still tempted by some horror subscriptions I see out there. 1y
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chasjjlee
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It's release day!!! I can't wait to go on this adventure with Ari and Dante. If I don't make it to the bookstore soon I will definitely pick it up on my Kindle.

Anyone else excited to dive into this one😉? What are your thoughts?

*I also just learned that the 1st book is being adapted for film! How exciting!*

Nutmegnc A FILM? Oh my heart ♥️. 1y
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MatchlessMarie
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It‘s out It‘s out It‘s out. 🥲 Definitely not losing my mind that my name is the first word of my most anticipated read of the year — even if it‘s not about me 😍 #epigraph

mrsmarch Someone sent you a special message today. I wonder who? No coincidences. 1y
MatchlessMarie @mrsmarch love that idea ❤️ 1y
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thevagabondlawyer
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Opening salvo is just breathtaking 🙏 🙌

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readingjedi
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It arrived! Was it worth staying up till midnight to start it? Well, no actually as I promptly fell asleep without even reading the first line! Looking forward to getting stuck in today.

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readingjedi
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Clearing my schedule in preparation for this one, due on the 12th. So excited!

CoffeeNBooks I can't wait for this one! 1y
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WanderingBookaneer
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Road trip means audiobook!

BennettBookworm Wow read by Lin-Manuel Miranda?! 1y
Sharpeipup Where are you headed? 1y
WanderingBookaneer @BennettBookworm : He read the first one as well. (In the pre-Hamilton days) 1y
Nutmegnc I‘m trying to save it for my trip tomorrow but it‘s so good!! 1y
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MatchlessMarie
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I knew it was hinted that LMM would narrate this one too but I didn‘t see a big announcement or anything but you can bet I preordered this baby. Got to be one of the most anticipated books of 2021

BookBosomed1 Whoa. 1y
Bookjunkie57 He did such a great job with the first book. I‘m really happy he is back for the second. 1y
MatchlessMarie @Bookjunkie57 I know! When they get around to making the movie I would love to see him as Dante‘s dad. 1y
Bookjunkie57 @MatchlessMarie that would be perfect 1y
peanutnine Ooo yay! I listened to the first book on audio and loved his narration. I was hoping he would read this one as well! And I agree, he would be great as the dad in the movie 1y
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