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Jingo | Terry Pratchett

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Jingo (Revised) | Terry Pratchett

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Welcome to the #OokBOokClub open discussion for #Jingo feel free to discuss anything! Don't forget to tag each other in the comments so your friends can see your reply. Have fun!

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kwmg40 This story felt pretty dark for a Discworld novel, even if it did contain some very funny scenes. Two aspects that I liked very much: the continuing character development of Vimes and the hilarious and intriguing Dis-organiser. 2mo

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julesG @kwmg40 The Dis-Organiser was hilarious indeed. 2mo

julesG Yes, the novel was darker than what we've seen so far, but it can't all be sunshine and rainbows. Not even on Discworld. I think Pratchett used the Watch novels deliberately to show the darker side of life. 2mo

willaful I think this was one of his more ambitious books and it's not entirely successful. But it's full of fantastic gut-punch scenes, as well as laughs. 2mo

julesG @willaful There's a lot packed into the story. This time round I noticed a lot of small things connected to history (wars, border disputes, fishing rights squabbles,...) that I didn't notice upon my first read or didn't know about back then, which make more sense to me and made the novel feel less 'unsuccessfully ambitious'. 2mo

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Sergeant Colon had had a broad education. He'd been to the School of My Dad Always Said, the College of It Stands to Reason, and was now a postgraduate student at the University of What Some Bloke in the Pub Told Me.

julesG 🤣🤣🤣 One of my favourite quotes from the book. 🦧 2mo

BookmarkTavern I know way too many people like that! 😂😂😂 2mo

willaful @BookmarkTavern Those schools certainly never lacked enrollment! 2mo

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“He ought to stay here, and do the best he could.

But . . . history was full of the bones of good men who'd followed bad orders in the hope that they could soften the blow. Oh, yes, there were worse things they could do, but most of them began right where they started following bad orders.”

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BarbaraJean

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“Colon looked awkward, as if the bunched underwear of the past was tangling itself in the crotch of recollection.”

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When a mysterious island rises from the sea, it sparks an international conflict that threatens war. & all Sam Vimes wants to do is solve the murders in his own damn city.

This feels ludicrously timely. Vimes‘s whole speech about Us Vs Them, the anti-immigration rhetoric in Ankh-Mor Pork, the leaders in charge not truly understanding the costs of war as they throw the young men of the country into battle for pride/land/glory. Phew. 🌕🌕🌕🌕🌗

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Suzie You're making me wonder if I've actually read this one 2mo

julesG It's weird how apt this book is for what's happening right now. 2mo

BookmarkTavern @Suzie I did not remember this one at all! 😅 @julesG I‘m starting to think his books are going to be timely no matter what. 2mo

Suzie @BookmarkTavern I might have to put it on my groaning TBR and see what happens 2mo

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Jingo | Terry Pratchett

#OokBOokClub-ers, our Discworld adventure continues TODAY with #Jingo!

Looking forward to our discussion next month!

Happy reading!

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Just a friendly reminder that we'll be reading #Jingo next! Dig out your books, put in your library holds, or place your orders! The next Discworld adventure continues on August 8th! Woohoo!

If anyone wants to be tagged/untagged for future posts please let me know! Happy to oblige!

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julesG Thanks! 4mo

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Jingo | Terry Pratchett

#OokBOokClub

Just a friendly reminder that we'll be reading #Jingo next! Dig out your books, put in your library holds, or place your orders! The next Discworld adventure continues on August 8th! Woohoo!

If anyone wants to be tagged/untagged for future posts please let me know! Happy to oblige!

#Discworld #SirTerryPratchett #TerryPratchett #PratchettPosse #ReadAlong #BuddyRead #EpicBuddyRead

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Doppoetry

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so-so

This one was difficult to get into due to current events. Pratchett takes a hard stab at racism and prejudice, and what happens when two factions fight over a resource and a plan on making siege weapons. Although Pratchett's intent was good in satirizing both sides, the Middle Eastern presenting people feel more like stereotypical caricatures than actual human beings. I found their portrayal to be very racist, although I am aware it's accidental.

Doppoetry There is a very fine line between poking fun of those in power and making fun and mocking a minority group.

The tonal shift in this book was a bit jarring, but I think it fit for what the author was going for.

Overall, I think there was probably a better way to go about portraying people of color who are the major focus of the story with more empathy. But aside from that he did what he set out to do. 4mo

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Doppoetry

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Oh man, with everything going on, I was suggested skipping it for now, so that is what I shall do 😅

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Felt like reading it for the first time. There was a lot more adventure and hilarious hijinks than I remembered! I will say certain sections were tough to read in light of recent events. Major plot points involve the disputed occupation of a piece of land and racism, prejudice and violence between those of different ethnicities/religions/cultures. Satire bites harder, hurts more when it was written decades ago and continues to be relevant. 1/2

Robotswithpersonality 2/2 Highlights for me: 1) Vimes recognizing all the ugly and futile parts of war and dirty politics while continually reaffirming where the line is for himself as an officer of the law, what he should and should not have the power to do. 2) Nobby having gender feels (⚠️various character reactions do not age well) 3) Vetinari out of the palace and causing breathtakingly competent havoc 🤌🏻 2y

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Okay, you get points for that one.
A+ 'pune'. 😉

julesG 🤣🤣🤣 2y

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I love them.

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Awww, anxious gargoyle! 🥺 They should have a rooftop party next year.

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What makes this truly mind-boggling is I believe similarly poor sartorial choices are actually part of military history. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Singout What Terry Pratchett book would you start with? A lot of my friends admire him, but the one I tried just didn‘t work for me. 2y

Robotswithpersonality @Singout I think the writing gets better as the series progresses. I lucked out in randomly picking up Snuff first, but it is the last of the City Watch/Sam Vimes books, so I did get mild spoilers for plot points in his life. I've heard others who also don't really like Rincewind (wizard) as the main character, but do enjoy the witch books. (Anything with Weatherwax, Ogg, definitely prefer the later ones). If you just want to get a feel for the Discworld and don't mind emphasis on a theme, I might go with the Monstrous Regiment, The Truth or Small Gods. If you'd rather read from criminal makes good POV, than cop POV, try Going Postal, it's the first book with Moist Lipwig. For a more traditional, fairly mature YA fantasy bent, try the first Tiffany Aching book, Wee Free Men, she grows and so does the prose as her books go on. Happy reading! 2y

Singout Thank you! Lots of good insights there.
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I would pay admission to that exhibit. 🎟️🪖⛑️

Texreader Me too!! 2y

julesG Me too! 2y

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MariaW

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The desperate try of Ankh Morporkian aristocracy to overthrow Verinari. Well, not under Sam Vimes‘ (Night) Watch and not with Verinari‘s political calculations and his sharp tongue. Ah, and there‘s a long lost island as well. 😜

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Collecting … Discworld: The City Watch Collection 😁

4 down, 4 to go ❣️

Guards! Guards! ✅
Men at Arms ✅
Feet of Clay ✅
Jingo ✅
The Fifth Elephant
Night Watch
Thud!
Snuff

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Can't believe I'm halfway through Discworld! I've really felt Pratchett getting into his groove over the last few books in the series, and this was no exception. Very funny, with some serious undertones about the world in which we live, focusing in this book on racism and xenophobia.

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I loved this Nobby, undercover dressed as a woman, side story.

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😂

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GingerAntics I love the deep philosophical ideas Pratchett buried in his writing. 5y

JazzFeathers My goodness, that's so accurate and disturbing. 5y

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😂. And so it begins!

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Finally finished #PratchettPosse I‘m running behind on a bunch of my planned reading at the moment, so definitely me and not the book. I really liked this one, you get the prejudices, and then he undermines every one of them. I love the Leonardo Di Vinci-like character homages, Nobby on woman‘s rights, all the commentary on Us verses Them, etc. This one will be a favorite for sure, the Watch books are definitely winners for me.

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Freespirit I haven't read any of his books. 5y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Freespirit He starts out with such silly stories on the surface, but there is a lot of wit and social commentary, etc in them too just below the surface. 5y

Freespirit I will need to remedy that I think😊 5y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @Freespirit I hope you enjoy them. 5y

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Love this. Enough said. 😁😁

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Jingo (Revised) | Terry Pratchett

Hello friends! Open discussion is in the FOLLOWING POST marked as a spoiler. Find the #Jingo post & tap "show me" on the spoiler tag to join in the discussion. Join in whenever you can! Today. Tomorrow. Next month! The post will always be up so just tag each other & we'll jump in to discuss with you. Feel free to chat about anything!

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Jingo | Terry Pratchett

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Welcome to the #OokBOokClub open discussion for #Jingo! Feel free to discuss anything! Don't forget to tag each other in the comments so your friends can see your reply. Have fun!

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julesG Favourite quotes: "One of the universal rules of happiness is: always be wary of any helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual." + "Veni, vici...Vetinari." 5y

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khooliha I loved this book, whiiiiich might be made obvious by the half million posts I made about it. I remembered it being good and carried a worry that it wouldn't have aged well and I was so glad to have been wrong! 5y

julesG @khooliha That's right. It aged well. 5y

gossamerchild I finished finished this today. I freaking love Commander Vimes. He's just so...human. I love his thought processes. 5y

julesG @gossamerchild You're right. Vimes is "down to earth". I used to like Carrot more but the #OokBOokClub re-read of the Watch books made me a Vimes fan. ? 5y

gossamerchild @julesG I think the two of them together are just perfect. Each other's foils 🥰 5y

julesG @gossamerchild I admit, I even hate-love/love-hate Vetinari. There are a few instances throughout the Watch stories when I think he's right about some things. But he's the villain, of course. 😁 5y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @gossamerchild I just finished too! And yes, I think they are the perfect foils. Vimes is so human, the Everyman, and Carrot is the too perfect to be true ideal that works, but only for him. 5y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa @khooliha I loved it too, and I highlighted a bunch of quotes to post too. 5y

Riveted_Reader_Melissa So anyway, I finished, better late than never....I‘m running behind on a bunch of my planned reading at the moment, so definitely me and not the book. I really liked this one, you get the prejudices, and then he undermines every one of them. I love the Leonardo Di Vinci-like character homages, Nobby on woman‘s rights, all the commentary on US verses Them, etc. This one will be a favorite for sure, the Watch books definitely winners for me. 5y

khooliha @Riveted_Reader_Melissa It's a very quotable book! 5y

khooliha @julesG You know, I don't know if I've ever thought of Vetinari as the villain - I see him as a guy trying to build a perpetual plate spinning machine while in the midst of spinning the plates. I certainly think Vimes and a bunch of other people see him as a villain, though. 5y

julesG @khooliha That's what I was going for. That he's supposed to be the villain for some. I should probably be more literary and call him the antagonist. Sounds better than villain. 😉 5y

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Despite finsihing the book I am still thinking about it, so another thought, about the Dis-Organizer again because I'm obsessed: the split could be seen as coming down to love of country vs love of the people you have relationships with. The duty of staying and defending your city (and dying for it needlessly) versus the drive to help/protect your friends and loved ones (and you stop a war).
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Radio Morpork has pointed out the horrifying flipside of the already pretty horrifying Dis-Organizer mix up plot: the Vimes in Ankh Morpork is getting notifications about succeeding in stoppibg the war as everything falls apart around him, right up to his death. And I thought the half we see was scary!
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I gave this ol' paperback a hug mere seconds before taking this picture. I am emotional about how much I love this book!
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Vimes loves himself a bath and I respect that about him.
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Also, my feelings on the comedy crossdressing stuff in this book are as bad as I was worried they'd be? Nobby really takes to it, is the thing. Sort of reminds me of Jerry/Daphne in Some Like It Hot.
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Also, I'll be the first to say I haven't especially liked how Carrot and Angua's relationship is written on this reread, mostly with the dog stuff, but I think it's more interesting here specifically because it is paralleled with Vetinari and Vimes' relationship, one the book would tell you isn't romantic in the slightest. Takes some of the weirdness out of the former.
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khooliha (PS I have definitely ended up shipping Vetinari and Vimes, but mostly in a one sided, Vetinari has the feelings way. Sam would have to work through a lot, I would think!) 5y

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There are so many good images of Vetinari -doing things- in this book, and I'm not even talking the obvious scene (which is also delightful). He just decided to take a nap on someone else's souvenir and it brought a tear to my eye! Vetinari!
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Just reached the moment with the swapped Dis-organizers and I remember this subplot giving me chills. I've been enjoying the Dis-organizer in this reread and I think this is its last book? Where else to go from here?
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Gezemice

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Jingo is one of my favorites; hilarious and very quotable; timeless about ethnic hate, warmongering, and how good people living together for generations can turn on each other overnight if agitated by politicians. Vimes is at his best; but Vetinari steals the show with his performance as a civilian in Klatch. We have Nobby as a woman, Carrot as a military leader, and Vimes in outfits he really hates; Leonard de Quirm in a submarine...⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Gezemice #ookbookclub #terrypratchett #pratchettposse 5y

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I cannot believe that one of the things this reread is teaching me is that Nobby has more moral fiber and policing skills than Colon.
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I've started Jingo for #OokBOokClub and I am already pondering something I forgot, namely Vetinari, the lax tax collecting tyrant. I guess he doesn't collect taxes from the various rich figures in the city to have leverage over them? But I'm also wondering if it's a way to have an excuse to not have a standing army or navy.

MariaW 🤗 5y

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julesG @MariaW Why don't you join us? 5y

Catherine_Willoughby Getting through my #Discworld TBR pile - need to reed Pyramids and Guards Guards before I jump to Interesting Times lol 5y

julesG @Catherine_Willoughby I made good way with the audiobooks read by Nigel Planer(?). 5y

MariaW @julesG Kann im Moment nicht richtig abschalten. 🙈 5y

Catherine_Willoughby @julesG I listed to some of his and read some books- depends on the time I have 5y

julesG @MariaW Ich drücke dir die Daumen, dass es bald besser wird 5y

DrexEdit So far behind with Discworld. Sigh. I hope to catch up to you all again soon! 5y

Gezemice I am reading it now. I think this might be his funniest work. 5y

julesG @Gezemice I might disagree on funniest. 😁 5y

Gezemice @julesG I know, there are so many out there! I think it probably dependson the mood when I read it. A lot of the Watch and the Witch novels (ooh, never realized this alliteration before) are very funny. Those are his best - the middle ones. Early is a bit too scattered and late gets more subdued. 5y

Iblu I am a bit behind still reading this having even jumped completely the Johnny book!!!! I‘ll catch up I promise!!! 5y

julesG @Iblu Don't worry. You'll catch up. 5y

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Yet another Pratchett book that on the surface is hilarious, as always, yet has so many layers it's a hyper onion. Vimmes and the Watch are thrown into the middle of a diplomatic disaster that could explode in war between Ankh-Morpork and Klatch. All due to an island rising from the depths of the circle sea exactly halfway between the two.
In his usual blood minded way, Vimmes with weedle and bluff his way to a bloodless conclusion. 5/5 Stars

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