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Secret Place
Secret Place | Tana French
An absolutely mesmerizing read. . . . Tana French is simply this: a truly great writer. Gillian Flynn Detective Stephen Moran has been waiting for his chance to join Dublin s Murder Squad when sixteen-year-old Holly Mackey arrives in his office with a photo of a popular boy whose body was found at a girls boarding school a year earlier. The photo had been posted at The Secret Place, the school s anonymous gossip board, and the caption says I KNOW WHO KILLED HIM. Stephen joins with Detective Antoinette Conway to reopen the case beneath the watchful eye of Holly s father, fellow detective Frank Mackey. With the clues leading back to Holly s close-knit group of friends, to their rival clique, and to the tangle of relationships that bound them all to the murdered boy, the private underworld of teenage girls turns out to be more mysterious and more dangerous than the detectives imagined."
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britt_brooke
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Mehso-so

⭐️⭐️ Tana French is the slow burn mystery queen, but good lord, was this an absolute slog! Dublin Murder Squad books 1-4 were much more compelling. Was she going for dark academia? The idea of original sin, and a group of girls who vowed to do something they‘re scared of, and also a boy they all desired but who was also an asshole? I just couldn‘t care about this story. I‘ll still read her again, though.

Ruthiella This one was an anomaly for me too. The next one is better, as I recall. 3w
britt_brooke @Ruthiella I‘ve really enjoyed everything else I‘ve read from her. I think if this had been shorter, that would‘ve helped. It dragged on and on. 3w
Bluebird I finished this one a few days ago. I also thought it the weakest of the series and agree, it definitely could have been shorter. I enjoyed the present day storyline about the detectives and the investigation, but not the girls storyline—too much teen angst. 3w
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britt_brooke @Bluebird Agree! I think it was the past storyline that killed it for me. 3w
Centique I started this one earlier this year and couldnt get into it so youve helped me decide to skip to the next one! 2w
britt_brooke @Centique Good decision! lol 2w
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LapReader
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Mehso-so

Yesterday was a massive day that ended with a tequila courtesy of Stew & a dunk at my ocean 🛀 out front for the 1st time this spring. It‘s the small things. This was last month‘s #authorofthemonth that I picked to read. I can‘t say, a 3rd of the way through, that I‘d read 1 of hers again. A surprising plot twist has just happened so I‘ll persevere like I always do. The 💦 was 🥶 but refreshing after my arvo walk & housework that morning.

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Yenya1954
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This was my first novel by Tana French. I was pleasantly impressed by her work. The elite girls boarding school with a boys school not too far away is the perfect location for steamy teenage hormones and murder. The victim was a good looking young man. The girls were obviously suspected of being involved in the crime. Tana French did a good job keeping me guessing who was responsible. 4.25/5 I intend to read any more of her novels

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andrew61
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Pickpick

5th in the Dublin murder squad combined an interesting pair of Garda detectives who are outcasts in the squadroom with the claustrophobia of a girls boarding school. The teenagers are captured perfectly with their secrets , jealousies, conspiracies, and passions, a perfect setting for a murder. My only issue is that at 540 pages, it could have lost about 50 pages, but otherwise, another great read.

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Bookwormjillk
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Pickpick

Finally finished this one for July‘s #BacklistReadathon

I think this was one of Tana French‘s best, but as a parent to teens it freaked me out. My kids are never going to boarding school 🤣

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! We realized we kind of missed officially hosting the #BacklistReadathon for July, so I'm glad you carried on anyway 😂 We'll be back for August!! 1y
Clwojick Great Job! 💛💛💛 I have the Likeness by this author on my shelf… have you read it? (edited) 1y
Bookwormjillk @Clwojick yes, I‘ve liked the whole series so far. I think that‘s the 2nd but you don‘t have to read them in order. 1y
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Bookwormjillk @TheAromaofBooks I have a whole thing written down, so I‘m in for the year now! Even if I don‘t ever finish in the official Readathon week. 1y
Susanita This was great on audio, with two different narrators. 1y
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Bookwormjillk
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It‘s been a busy week with family but I finally got some time today to sneak out and take an audio walk and read by the lake. My audio is The Secret Place by Tana French and I‘m still slogging through my book club cozy on kindle. #JubilantJuly

Andrew65 Sounds heavenly, pouring with rain here. 1y
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LeslieO
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I love the slow burn of a Tana French mystery. Elite girls boarding school + Murder. #SetinHighSchool #MarchMagic

TripleS Love her books!! 2y
Eggs Great pick!! 2y
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deeannloso
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Pickpick

I got through this one a bit faster because I‘ve had trouble sleeping. I‘m bummed this is the second-to-last book in the series but I‘m also excited to see how Ms. French will wind up the series. In each book, the narrator(s) has something devastating/troubling that seems to flash back and have some affect on the current case, many times w/devastating effects. Let‘s see what happens in #6. #SeriesLove2023 @Andrew65 @TheSpineView

Andrew65 You have done brilliantly with these. Well done 🥳 Always sad when you are approaching the end of a good series. 2y
deeannloso @Andrew65 Thanks so much! 😊 2y
TheSpineView Well done! 2y
deeannloso @TheSpineView Thanks! 😊 2y
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deeannloso
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“A year ago a boy was found murdered at a girlsʼ boarding school, and the case was never solved. Detective Stephen Moran has been waiting for his chance to join Dublin‘s Murder Squad when sixteen-year-old Holly Mackey arrives in his office with a photo of the boy with the caption: ‘I KNOW WHO KILLED HIM.‘” #SeriesLove2023

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SheilaChew
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Pickpick

First book of 2023! This took me awhile to read because I couldn‘t figure out the writer‘s style. By the end, though, I got it and liked it. This complicated story about a group of four friends at boarding school and a brutal murder of a young man was interesting and I didn‘t figure it out until the end.

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Tertubotn
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Panpan

My least favorite of the Dublin Murder Squad series, and the last of the six I read. All the books have detailed descriptlons of the environment where the crime happens, so they move slow. Most of the time it works, here it just makes the book boring.

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Amoon
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Bailedbailed

I‘ve been hearing about Tana French for a long time. Reading on a tablet, didn‘t realize it was over 900 pages. Kept waiting for it to get better, Never did even after the murder was solved. Set at an exclusive boarding school where (of course) all any of them want to do is break the rules and maybe have sex. I didn‘t find any of the characters interesting. Wish I had bailed sooner.

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Susanita
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1. Mystery
2. Set in a #boardingschool 😎
3. Agatha Christie, Sue Grafton, Val McDermid, Louise Penny
#sundayfunday
#savvysettings

Eggs Thanks for the tag ❤️❤️ 3y
BookmarkTavern Agatha Christie is an amazing choice! Thanks for posting! 3y
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Susanita
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1. I prefer single POV but also like multiple POV when it‘s done well. Tagged book was a good audiobook read by two different narrators, even though they pronounced Costello differently!
2. Yes for school but not so much for personal reading.
3. I make lists then decide what to read by mood…or by what‘s due at the library first.
#wondrouswednesday

Eggs Thanks for joining in 🥳📚👍🏼 3y
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bekakins
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Pickpick

This wasn‘t my favourite Murder Squad novel, but it was still pretty bloody good. Teenage girls are scary… I‘m so glad my parents didn‘t send me to our local all girls school when I asked them not to!

And here‘s #bookspin #doublespin #bookspinbingo for Feb! I got a line in Jan so fingers crossed for the same!

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! I also can't imagine surviving an all-girls school 😂 3y
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DarkMina
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Eggs Great pick! 3y
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BethHagey
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Pickpick

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GatheringBooks
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A book that #BeginsWith #Secret Day 3: part of Tana French‘s book series.

Eggs Great choice!! 3y
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AlizaApp
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Pickpick

So glad to be back with the Dublin murder squad, though I am not sure this one was my favorite. It all unfolds over the course of one day, which I liked, and brings back Detective Stephen Moran and Holly Mackey (Frank‘s daughter), now all grown up and in high school. A mysterious note shows up that might be related to a murder, and Holly brings it to Moran who sees his chance to jump to the Murder squad.

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Coleen
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Pickpick

I‘m working my way through these (Dublin Murder Squad) in order, and each time I finish one I think it‘s my favorite. Yet when I look back at all of them as a series, I‘m not sure I could pic a favorite. They‘re all good and unique. I liked this one because it was set in a girls boarding school. I seem to be a sucker for those.

jhod This was the first one I read (I then went back!) And it's still my fave, am also a sucker for a school story! 3y
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Bibliotekate
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Pickpick

Perhaps my favorite of French‘s series.

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Branwen
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Ta dah! My book haul for the weekend! 🎉💕📚 #bookhaul

Weisubei Love we ride the storm trilogy ❤️ 3y
Branwen @Weisubei It looks amazing! I can't wait to start it! I had never heard if it before but the covers really drew me in! 3y
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Jas16
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Pickpick

It has been a year since a boy was found murdered in a girls‘ boarding school and Stephen Moran must wade through all of the cliques, mean girls, and teenage drama to help find the killer if he wants a shot at a spot on the Murder Squad. My least favorite book in the series so far for a variety of reasons. Even still I got sucked in and kept trying to guess the ending.
#charactersarefrenemies #booked2021

Reggie Aww I like the pic! 🌱 4y
Jas16 @Reggie Thanks Reggie! 4y
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crhealey
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We‘re back in school after a week of online learning so it is back to early morning reading and a #dailydunkin #teachersofLitsy

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crhealey
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Continuing to chip away at this one. Took a drive and ended up an hour away from my house with a new view and an apple cider chai. #weekendreads

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crhealey
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Soaking up every possible minute at outdoor cafes before winter comes. #weekendreads #dublinmurderseries

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Laughterhp
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#BookReport - Finished 2 books this week and started 3 books this week.

I‘m 50 pages into my #LMPBC book. The MC already annoys me so 😬😬😂

I‘m over 100 pages into Magic Burns. I really love this work and Kate Daniel‘s snark.

I‘m listening to Truth or Beard on audio. I‘ve never read Penny Reid before but I‘m liking the romance.

#WeeklyForecast - Honestly no idea what I‘ll read next but it‘ll be off #bookspinbonanza list

Amandajoy I love the Winston Brothers series on audio! 5y
Cinfhen I listened to the Friends book on audio / it was really good!!! 5y
Laughterhp @Amandajoy I didn‘t like the woman narrator at first because of her accent but it grew on me! 5y
Laughterhp @Cinfhen Oh that‘s good to hear! I have a hard copy of the book. 5y
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Laughterhp
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Pickpick

It was so good to be back in the world of Ireland and the Murder squad. Such a great mystery. I didn‘t know who the murder was going to be. I know a lot of people didn‘t care for the supernatural elements, but I didn‘t have any issues with it. It made an interesting storyline.

I have 2 left I think in the Murder Squad.

#BookSpinBonanza - Book 4 or 5 (I have to double check 😬, this was the 5th number picked)

vivastory There's only one more after that in the DMS 5y
vivastory The following one is not a part of DMS 5y
Laughterhp @vivastory I‘m totally reading them out of order 😂 I still have the Likeness and the Trespasser left. I honestly don‘t really know what the order is. 5y
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vivastory You're in for a treat! Those are tied as my number 1 favorite with Broken Harbor slightly behind. 5y
TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!! Great progress!!! 5y
Laughterhp @vivastory That‘s good to hear! Broken Harbor has been my favorite so far, with In The Woods behind it. 5y
MyNamesParadise This has been on my to read list for so long and I think my next read. I want a good book to read. My favorite of the Dublin Murder Squad is Faithful Place (I‘ve only read the first 4 so far.) 5y
UrsulaMonarch Beautiful picture! I‘m in the middle of this one 😊 4y
Laughterhp @UrsulaMonarch I hope you‘re liking it!! 4y
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janeycanuck
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Pickpick

I loved how the current day timeline happened all in one day! French is masterful at unfurling little bits of the story in just the right way to keep your mind constantly flipping between suspects. I could have done without the supernatural element, I just didn‘t see how that added to the story.

Book 5 for #bookspinbonanza

TheAromaofBooks Ooo great review! I've only ever read one of French's books, but keep meaning to try another! 5y
janeycanuck @TheAromaofBooks most people say The Likeness is their favourite but I think Faithful Place is mine. She‘s so good! 5y
marleed Your bath is so beautiful! 5y
janeycanuck @marleed thank you! 5y
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Laughterhp
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It was not nice out today. Some sun, lots of clouds and lots of wind. 😬😬

But we were working outside today at a friends house and obviously are not able to hang out inside. I had a winter hat, a vest, a long sleeves shirt, and a jacket/sweater on 😂😂

So I laid on their hammock and got a few chapters in.

#NutsInMay #dogsoflitsy

Also, apparently I was more concerned about getting Buddy in the picture than my book 🤷🏻‍♀️🤪

Andrew65 It was very cool and windy here too, I didn‘t head outside at all. 5y
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erzascarletbookgasm
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Pickpick

French captures the adolescent girls‘ relationships very well..the angst, intensity, bitching, young love, secrets...right down to the annoying teens talk (“OhmyGod!” “awesomesauce”). Intricately plotted, character driven & a great sense of place. I love when French writes about her detectives, this time, an odd-pair & an appearance of Frank Mackey (my fav). Fantastic read, my only complaint in the comments.

#mandmchallenge2020 #favoriteauthor

erzascarletbookgasm The story could very well do away with the paranormal (magical realism?) element. 👎 5y
Cathythoughts Nice review 👍🏻❤️ I saw somewhere on Litsy she has a new one coming out in the Autumn 😁 5y
erzascarletbookgasm @Cathythoughts I‘m so excited for it then! I only have one more of hers to read 5y
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BarbaraTheBibliophage Great job! I have one of her first books on my shelf and really should read it already!! 5y
Laughterhp Just took this one of my bookshelf the other day and added it to my to be read soon pile. 5y
heatherkaz @ezrascarletbookgasm I agree with you, I could have done without it too. I get it, French incorporated bits of the paranormal in other stories, but I didn't love the way it was done in The Secret Place. 5y
erzascarletbookgasm @Laughterhp I hope you‘ll like it! 5y
erzascarletbookgasm @heatherkaz I remember when I first read In The Woods, I was confused with the bits of paranormal but I‘m glad to have continued the series. I love the Dublin Murder Squad! 5y
heatherkaz @ezrascarletbookgasm This is by far one of my favorite series! 5y
BookDragonNotWorm I agree completely! This one and In The Woods are my favorite in the series, but they'd hit harder if they were firmly grounded in reality. 5y
erzascarletbookgasm @BookDragonNotWorm My favourite is The Faithful Place. This one comes close, if only the paranormal part is omitted. Broken Harbour is very good too. 5y
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Kaylamburson
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Debate! I just left a meeting where there was a hot debate about the effectiveness of step-back covers (a paperback cover that is trimmed slightly shorter to reveal the page underneath filled with reviews and awards). As a general reader, do you pay attention to review blurbs? Do they help convince you to buy a book? Have you ever even noticed a step-back cover? If so, is that more meaningful than just one blurb on the front?

Chrissyreadit I do not look at them. 5y
kstadt929 I purposely skip over them because I don‘t really care what they say at all! I would not choose a book based on these (or put it back if I was planning to buy it!) 5y
BookishMarginalia I look at them but it really only sways me if an author I love and trust gives a blurb that feels authentic. 5y
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MyNamesParadise I look at them out of curiosity to see what writers have given reviews but it doesn‘t determine if I buy the book, although lately I‘ve been getting my books from the library. Haven‘t bought a book in a while! 5y
IamIamIam I don't trust any reviews because I don't think they're honest. I dislike those kinds of covers, though!!! Lol 5y
Kaylamburson Hahaha, you don't trust any reviews, or just ones from other authors. Do you trust those from publications? And do you dislike the covers because of the aesthetic? @IamIamIam. I do personally hate how it feels in my hands. 5y
Hazel2019 I try my best not to buy books with step-back covers. They take away from the cover and make the book look cheap imo. I do read the review blurbs though. My preference is for them to be on the back cover. I enjoy the language they use. You can pick up some neat phrases 😁 5y
Jas16 I really don‘t like step-back covers at all and prefer not to buy them. Thanks for teaching me what they are called! 5y
Amie I don't read the review blurbs on books, and I don't like the way step back covers look (but now I know what they're called - I didn't know that term before). 5y
rockpools I find them odd. I‘m more likely to look at review blurbs in an advert or on a poster - once the book‘s in my hands I won‘t even glance at them - the cover/blurb/writing will help me decide whether to take it home. 5y
Hooked_on_books I don‘t like step-back covers at all. I find them unattractive and they can make the book unwieldy. I rarely pay any attention to blurbs anywhere on a book. I either already know I want to read a book or I simply read the description on the back cover or flap. 5y
Billypar I never use blurbs/reviews to help me decide on a book (opposite of movies where I do rely on critic reviews). When I was a teenager I was fascinated with blurbs - I would read and re-read them while reading the novel. Like they got me more excited somehow. Now I just glance at them sometimes but don't pay much mind. Not a big step-back cover fan either (though cool to know there's a word for those!) 5y
minkyb Don't look at them. Certainly never influences whether I will purchase the book.
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Kaylamburson Thanks all!! I love hearing all your thoughts about them. As a general consumer I never paid them any attention either. But so glad I was able to teach a bunch of you a new term! Haha.@chrissyreadit @kstadt929 @BookishMarginalia @MyNamesParadise @IamIamIam @Hazel2019 @jas16 @Amie @RachelO @Hooked_on_books @Billypar @minkyb 5y
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GatheringBooks
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#MagnificentMarch Day 17: Tana French definitely fits the #IrishAuthorSetInIreland theme. Bought all of her books in this series while I was in Dublin. How could I possibly resist that marked-down price? More of my book haul while in Ireland here: https://wp.me/pDlzr-iLv

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks I‘ve never read her books! 🤦🏼‍♀️ 5y
OriginalCyn620 I‘ve never read her books either but I watched The Dublin Murders on Stars and loved it! 🖤 5y
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djlewis78
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Panpan

This is my least favorite book in the series. Unfortunately, I think I‘m done with this series as the books have not gotten any better. The first book was fantastic but they‘ve steadily declined.

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AshleyKorinE
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I have a new challenge video out!

https://youtu.be/eBtPOnWGGa0

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Cathythoughts
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#WeeklyForcast

Started tagged book early this morning in bed & in the dark ... kindles are good like that ! So glad to be back on the crime scene

Also these 2 Curtis Sittenfelds are looking good !

And there are books wrapped up under the tree ... soooo 🤷🏼‍♀️ who knows where this weeks reading will go

Lovely to be reading Tana again ❤️

Cathythoughts @Cinfhen I must study the #booked2020 lists ... it will be new year soon & Id love to start one on New Years Day 🥳 5y
TrishB @Cathythoughts that‘s such a good idea 👍🏻 5y
Cinfhen I really enjoyed Eligible it was a cute retelling of P&P but I wasn‘t too crazy about 5y
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Cinfhen All 3 Sittenfeld books are very different from each other, I‘m including American Wife 5y
Cathythoughts @Cinfhen thanks! Forewarned is good 👍🏻❤️ 5y
LeahBergen I better find some books under the tree, too. 😆 5y
Cathythoughts @LeahBergen Ofcorse you will 👍🏻❤️❤️ 5y
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Pamwurtzler
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Pickpick

I liked this, but maybe not as much as her others. It seemed to move more slowly. But, still very good!

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rachelm
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Getting ready for a family picture! Listening to this one from French‘s Dublin Murder Squad series, and while it‘s not my favorite, there are some strangely supernatural elements that make it feel perfect for Halloween 🎃

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Molly_the_mezzo
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Pickpick

I very much liked this one. High school was awful and this captured that intense desperation for me. The detective was very likable. The bit of supernatural weirdness was odd, and for me it was never properly defined whether that was real or not, but maybe that was ok? Any A+

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brittanyreads
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My #libraryhaul from today!!

Does anyone know if you have to read Tana French in order? Thank you!

Susanita They‘re standalones that feature some of the same characters, but you won‘t miss things if you read them in any order. 6y
brittanyreads @Susanita Thank you!! :) 6y
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Tonton
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Gilded youth in boarding school angst as Dublin Murder Squad‘s Antoinette Conway and Stephen Moran partner up for one day to follow up on a clue in the death of a golden schoolboy one year ago. Conway gives no quarter, Moran is all about using this chance to move onto the squad. Heady, secret,and dangerous teenage world seems impossible to parse. Don‘t think I would have survived high school now. Now for French‘s next one🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

erzascarletbookgasm I just finished reading this! Great review. The only thing that stopped me from giving it full stars..the paranormal element. 5y
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DHill
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Back to the Dublin Murder Squad for me. I‘m enjoying this one on audio.

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LeslieO
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I love Harney and Sons hot cinnamon spice. #teatime #polarvortex2019 #snowday

booksandsympathy Sounds delicious 6y
LeahBergen I really need to try this tea! 6y
Samplergal I love their earl grey and African herbal tea. Yum. 6y
LeslieO @Samplergal The only other one I‘ve tried is the holiday blend, which I 💕💕 6y
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LeslieO
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Experimenting with tracking my reading with the Bookly app. I love reading to the sound of "light rain". The actual weather is another story. It hasn't stop snowing since yesterday morning. Current temp is 2 degrees with -15 wind chill. Back to my book and gentle rain! #snowday #readallday

DHill How are you liking the book so far? I just started it on audio. 6y
LeslieO @DHill I'm loving it! Got behind on my Dublin Murder Squad. 6y
AmyG I read to that, too. My husband works out of our home....which for now is a small apartment. So I put rains sounds on to drown him out so I can read. 6y
LauraBeth I can feel the chill in that pic - stay warm! I started using Bookly at the beginning of the month and have found that I really like it. I thought I‘d stop using it after one or two books but have been consistent with it. 6y
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DHill
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Grateful for a new audiobook to get me to work on this ridiculously cold day.

Cortg Ugh! I can‘t imagine. Bundle up and stay warm 6y
DHill Thanks @Cortg ! It doesn‘t feel much warmer at work. My little space heater can barely keep up. 🥶 6y
Lynnsoprano I‘m cold by Florida standards, but nothing like that! Take care. 6y
DHill Thanks @Lynnsoprano ! It‘s still -25 right now but at least we‘re on the upward trend. 6y
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ErinC
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Pickpick

Another great book #setinireland #irishauthor completed for #booked2019. This one seemed different than the rest of the Dublin Murder Squad series. I liked it, but toward the end it drug on. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

vivastory This is my least favorite of the Dublin Murder Squad series. The next one is one of my favorites though. 6y
Cinfhen I just read my first French (and probably my last) I was a little bored by all the cop shop talk... but she definitely nails the Irish prompt 💚 6y
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