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The Bee Sting
The Bee Sting: A Novel | Paul Murray
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Jeg
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Mehso-so

Well that‘s a week I won‘t get back! Heard a good review, saw it in the library and despite my dislike of door stopper books , I decided to give it a go. It got me in , lovely writing. Middle put me right off , little punctuation , started to speed read, needed to know the ending. What a disappointment. 🤷🏻‍♂️.

LapReader Oh dear. I‘ve got this one for book club this month. 1d
Jeg @LapReader you might love it. I looked at reviews on here and they were mixed. Start it early. It's a long read. Look forward to seeing what you think. 23h
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readingjedi
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Pickpick

The writing here is fabulous - SO readable, SO engaging. It's lively, warm, witty, incisive, kinda enveloping. The plot builds with tremendous force. And how can it all end? All these threads, all the subtle foreshadowing? As a casual reader, I was cross & dissatisfied with the ending - once I'd put my English Lit. graduate head on & cogitated further, I was left stunned. No spoilers, but it is devastating & inevitable & unexpectedly perfect.

Graywacke I was listening on audio and cursing Murray out while driving home. But now I appreciate his ending. 1mo
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readingjedi
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Currently devouring this one. It's a proper door-stop of a book, my hand aches holding it! But sometimes I like to ditch the Kindle for the feel of a tree-book (as apposed to an e-book!)

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Amiable
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Bailedbailed

I tried. I made it almost 300 pages — until Imelda‘s section with the run-on sentences and lack of punctuation took me down. It was a valiant effort but I just couldn‘t do it. Moving on.

kspenmoll Bailing can be such a relief!!!‘ 2mo
BkClubCare Yeah… if you need me to tell you about it…. I gave it 2 stars! 😩 and did the audiobook (which is why the Imelda section did not bother me?) 2mo
Amiable @BkClubCare I was going to push through but then I realized I really didn‘t care what happened to any of the characters! 2mo
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Hooked_on_books You made a really strong go of it! Good to let it go and move on to something that works better for you. 2mo
BkClubCare @Amiable - it‘s so liberating, yes? That realization, “hey, I don‘t really care!” The whole book is train wrecks. 2mo
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Donna Caldwell Author
Panpan

I did not bail but it was a hard slog reading this book and I did not enjoy it very much. It came out to rapturous reviews and was up for various awards so I wanted to see what all the hype was about. I get why it was nominated as it ticked all typical the boxes it just was not for me. I found it cringy in places and I could not relate to any of the main protagonists. Only my opinion though.

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LiteraryHoarderPenny
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Going to jump in! This has been waiting for me for so long, my Hoarder partner bought it for my birthday last year. Look at those end papers! It was meant to be that I reached for this book - Fall is almost here and these leaves give me that happy mood. 🍂

TheBookgeekFrau What gorgeous end pages😍 3mo
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Ididsoidid
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Mehso-so

The compelling and intricate narrative gradually builds layer upon layer, giving different perspectives of overlapping events and gaining pace towards the climax at the end. I was impressed with how convincing each of the very different characters were and the use of second person was intriguing. But for all that, I‘m not sure if I enjoyed the actual story that much. 7/10

Ididsoidid Tried it as Audio and I suspect I‘ve missed out on some of the literary aspects so will have to pick up a copy of the book. 5mo
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Amor4Libros
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Bailedbailed

Lost interest on this rather quickly…

dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 5mo
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Donna1980
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A fair few unexpected turns in the enjoyable classic family saga. Bit of a brick at nearly 650 pages but I‘m here for it.

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Amor4Libros
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The reviews on this are so mixed that it made me so curious! I‘m enjoying the story, so far but this is a long book 😅

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brushlo
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Mehso-so

i loved parts of this book…but the way he wrote some of the characters made sections hard to read. ending was a cliff hanger - which was good and annoying simultaneously. i have mixed feelings.

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JillR
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Pickpick

In the most part I loved this. Such a sad, messy, heartbreaking story of a family unravelling, and why. Told from 4 different perspectives in turn, you don‘t always get the full story, the closure you want, but I loved the twists and turns on the previous perspectives. Both very easy to read, yet one where you need to keep your wits about you! The final 100 pages or so where the pace really ramps up were brilliant and I really loved the ending.

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HettyG
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Pickpick

HMPH.

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Leniverse
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Mehso-so

Overly long and slow buildup and even when it accelerates towards what looks to be (metaphorically) a four lane pile up with a train hurtling through the crash site, it still manages to give us more flashbacks. Still, it pulled me in and it would have been a pick if not for the ending which is an affront to the reader.

squirrelbrain Ha! Glad you agree with me about the ending! 6mo
Leniverse @squirrelbrain I was hopping mad! 😂 6mo
Hooked_on_books Totally agree about the ending! I read it a few months ago and I‘m still mad! 6mo
ErikasMindfulShelf I threw the book when I read the ending! I was so mad. 6mo
Suet624 Ridiculous ending. 2mo
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Cathythoughts
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Final verdict it‘s been a long read. Maybe too long ( a bit of blah blah ) But it‘s worth reading. I couldn‘t put it down. I did skim some passages that were too hard for me to read … I got the gist of these passages , but didn‘t need the details. Some beautiful writing along the way. I‘m going out on a limb here and saying I felt some writing Shakespearean ( definitely out on a limb here 🙈) an immersive story , engaging ,disturbing , awful, real

Tamra I have this TBR, glad to know it‘s worth the time investment. Hope your trip was rejuvenating! 😊 6mo
Cathythoughts @Tamra Thankyou 😘rejuvenating , yes. We‘re back a few days now.. Im ready for more rejuvenating 🤣😂♥️ life ♥️♥️♥️ (edited) 6mo
Cathythoughts @Tamra … and there is a great feeling having finished a long book, that you feel was worth the time 👍🏻♥️ 6mo
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LeahBergen Great review, Cathy! I‘m happy to hear you had a nice holiday. ❤️ 6mo
squirrelbrain Glad you enjoyed it! I‘ll put a comment in spoilers ⬇️ 6mo
squirrelbrain I loved nearly all of the book but hated the ending - I thought it was really OTT / far-fetched. And I don‘t like unresolved endings either…. 6mo
Cathythoughts Thanks Leah X we had a lovely break 👍🏻❤️ 6mo
Suet624 @squirrelbrain I'm with you. 6mo
squirrelbrain I‘m glad you agree! @Suet624 6mo
Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain @Suet624 I loved the metaphorical bee, where and when would it sting ( or not). The ending 🤔 I would have liked more information about what happened , but it doesn‘t bother me that much… I‘m still thinking about it. I was fascinating with the bunker and its significance in their lives. Great character development, I thought he lifted these characters onto a stage. I‘m ok with the ending, a lot to think about though. 6mo
Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain @Suet624 Yes, I think Im ok with the ending. I don‘t see it so much as unresolved, more that everything just froze. And there are so many threads to think about. 6mo
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Cathythoughts
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On holiday with The Bee Sting. Set in modern small town Ireland. It‘s the layers that are built up upon the characters lives. Told with wit and sadness and awe. Paul Murray is bringing me deeper and deeper into these lives. The past and present fading into each other. Ghosts , histories repeating themselves in little details, or in full blown ways. A disturbing brilliant book. Im not half way yet. But I love it so far. Final review soon 👍🏻❤️

squirrelbrain Glad you‘re loving the book, and enjoy the rest of your break! 6mo
BarbaraBB It sounds like you‘re having the best of times! Enjoy 🤍 6mo
Tamra Can‘t wait to hear more! 6mo
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Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain Thanks Helen X I can hardly put it down. ♥️ (edited) 6mo
Cathythoughts @BarbaraBB Thanks ♥️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @Tamra It was compared to the Corrections , Jonathan Franzen…. Im not a fan of, so wasn‘t expecting to like it. But maybe it‘s the Irish familiarity of it , but it‘s much more than that , I think it‘s really good. 6mo
LeahBergen It sounds wonderful! 6mo
Cathythoughts @LeahBergen It‘s a great read so far. Disturbing, so I‘m not sure where I‘m going yet , but I‘m all in 😁😳. 6mo
youneverarrived Love when a book really grabs you 🩵 this sounds great! 6mo
Cathythoughts @youneverarrived I know !! It‘s great when that happens. Especially on holidays 😁🥂 6mo
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Cathythoughts
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Going away for a few days. These are coming too , also kindle. The Bee Sting will be first up. Of course that could all change 😁

julesG Enjoy your trip! 6mo
batsy Nice! Enjoy your trip ❤️ I'm a bit afraid of The Bee Sting so will look out for your review and can't wait to get to Butter! 6mo
CarolynM Hope you have a great time away💕 6mo
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erzascarletbookgasm Great stack! Have a lovely trip 😘💕 6mo
thegirlwiththelibrarybag Hope you and your lovely bookstack have an amazing holiday! 6mo
merelybookish Enjoy! 😀 6mo
Cathythoughts @julesG Thankyou ❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @batsy Thankyou X I‘ve only read the first paragraph of Bee Sting .. which is alarming straight away 🤞🏻. I know nothing about Butter yet 👍🏻 6mo
Cathythoughts @merelybookish Thanks Margot ❤️ I hope all is well you X 6mo
Erinreadsthebooks The order, the books, purchasing a new book…it can always change on vacation 😅 6mo
Leftcoastzen Have fun! Looks like you have some good ones to choose from. 6mo
andrew61 Have a great time Cathy. I'll look forward to your review of the bee sting as I want to read it soon, I remember loving Skippy dies. 6mo
Tamra 😍 wishing you happy travel reading Cathy! I hope you find *one or two extra to bring home. (Or 3-10) 😜 (edited) 6mo
bookandbedandtea Beautiful picture! Enjoy your time away. 💛 6mo
LeahBergen Have a wonderful time! It looks like you‘ll have good “book company”. 😘 6mo
Ruthiella Great stack! Bon voyage . 😊 6mo
squirrelbrain Great stack! Have a lovely time! 6mo
Cathythoughts @Erinreadsthebooks Well that is the truth, anything can happen in our book worlds 😂❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @Leftcoastzen Thankyou ! 👍🏻❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @andrew61 I didn‘t read Skippy Dies , but my son loved it. Bee Sting is starting off great .. loving it so far 🤞🏻👍🏻 6mo
Cathythoughts @Tamra Thanks X Don‘t you know one or two might just happen 😂❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @bookandbedandtea Thankyou ❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @LeahBergen Thanks Leah X I think my book company will be fine 👍🏻❤️ 6mo
Cathythoughts @Ruthiella We aren‘t leaving the country.. but it will be a lovely few days X 6mo
Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain Thanks Helen. I started Bee Sting , it‘s not like anything I expected.. it‘s a good story so far , I think you‘d like it 👍🏻❤️ 6mo
squirrelbrain I‘ve read it! I really enjoyed it, for the most part. 🤪🤔 I‘ll be interested to hear your thoughts when you‘ve read it. 6mo
Cathythoughts @squirrelbrain Ok ! That‘s intriguing 🤔😆 I‘ll keep you posted. I‘m only 100 pages in and I love it. But there‘s a lot to go … we shall see ! 6mo
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thewallflower0707
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🗺️ Kirkwall, Orkney-Islands (Home of sheep, cows and some puffins)

We went on a biking 🚴‍♀️ tour and had some time in the biggest city, Kirkwall. It was sunny ☀️ and the Scots were very warm & welcoming.

#TheBeeSting didn‘t convince me. The ending was a terrible punch to the gut. #PaulMurray

#holiday #sightseeing #scotland

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thewallflower0707
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I hope I‘m packing enough books for my one week journey through Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🫣 📖. I really need a #holiday.

Ruthiella Bon voyage! 🛫😃 6mo
AmyG Enjoy! 6mo
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Eva_B
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Pickpick

Wow! I now know why everyone is talking about this book! Basically this book is about a family grappling with past events. But it‘s much more than that. It‘s hard to review as it‘s a huge tome with a lot going on. A bit unusual for a Booker prize nominee. Very readable apart from the Imelda chapters with no full stops. I‘m not sure what that was about or why authors do that. I might find out soon as I‘ll be seeing the author at a festival soon!

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vlwelser
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Mehso-so

This is good. But the author buries the interesting stuff about halfway through. And that's too long to wait in a 600+ page book imo. Not actually recommending. If you choose torture, that's on you.

#BookSpinBingo @TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Great review!! 7mo
ErikasMindfulShelf And that ending! I threw the book. 7mo
vlwelser @ErikasMindfulShelf seriously! I would have too except 1 library book and 2 I was on a commuter train. 7mo
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vlwelser
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Getting close to finishing my book nemesis. How did a 600+ page book only get interesting at about the 45% mark? I sort of hate this book. But it's also quite good.

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vlwelser
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Today is National Bring Your Doorstop to Work day so I'm working on my arm muscles as I commute.

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vlwelser
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That bottom book is my nemesis.

TheBookHippie 🎉🎉🎉 7mo
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Branwen
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Happy St Patty's Day! 💚☘️💚

This isn't really a holiday I typically celebrate, but I do like to use it as a time to think about some of my favorite Irish authors! James Joyce immediately comes to mind, as well as Tana French and Douglas Stuart. But this year I especially want to highlight Paul Murray, whose work I have completely fallen head over heels in love with over the past few months! 💕📚

Who are some of your favorite Irish authors?

Ruthiella Ireland has no shortage of great writers and storytellers! Maeve Binchy comes to mind. Oh, and Anna Burns who wrote the amazing 8mo
monalyisha Claire Keegan, Maggie O‘Farrell — and, obviously, Oscar Wilde. 😉 8mo
JuniperWilde Claire Keegan, Lucy Caldwell - I just purchased John Boynes “The Hearts Invisible Furies” 8mo
Branwen @Ruthiella Ooooh, nice choices! Ireland really does have some fantastic authors! ☘️💚 @monalyisha YASSSS, Oscar Wilde! Great choices! 🥰💚 @JuniperWilde I totally forgot about John Boyne! The Hearts Invisible Furies is one of the best books EVER! ☘️💚 8mo
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mjtwo
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Pickpick

4-27 Feb 24
Despite its almost 500 page length, I finished this quickly. And I was enthralled but ultimately unsatisfied.
Not sure how exactly to describe it. ‘Irish family drama‘ is terribly misleading. Really, it is a book about pretence, hiding one‘s true self and miscommunication. The characters are frustrating and mostly self-absorbed. I did feel sorry for PJ.

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Bevita
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Pickpick

Wow just finished this 600+ page wonder and still absorbing all the relationships and … the ending!?! Captivating, going to be an amazing movie. Imelda, Dickie, Frank, the garage, the secrets. Great.

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Branwen
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Was this a bit presumptuous? 🤭 I saw that this book was propped up in the new book display during my shift earlier today, and I decided to hype it up a bit for patrons! 💕📚

Ruthiella It‘s an impromptu shelf talker! 👍 9mo
AnnCrystal 👏😉👍. That's spectacular! 9mo
AmyG I read some of it and put it down. So I am hoping what Rebecca wrote is true. 9mo
Branwen @Ruthiella @AnnCrystal Ahahaha! Thank you! 🥹💕 @AmyG I hope if you do pick it up again you end up really liking it! 🥰📚 9mo
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Megabooks
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Bailedbailed

Reading in the car right now, but not this one anymore! I made it 257 pages in, but just couldn‘t imagine reading another 400 pages. Entirely too long! And what does he have against periods and question marks!? So weird!!

First major bail of the year in the books. 😂😂

dabbe #hailthebail! 🤩🤩🤩 9mo
TrishB You got further than me! Think I managed about 120 pages. 9mo
MicheleinPhilly Wait, there‘s no punctuation??? 9mo
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vlwelser I made it to 40% and then the library decided we were taking a little break. So I went back on the hold list. 😂 I probably should just move on. 9mo
Megabooks @MicheleinPhilly no!! Just capitalization. So weird. 9mo
sarahbarnes I bailed on this one too. It felt too long and I wasn‘t getting into it. 9mo
MicheleinPhilly Unstacking! Good grief with these writers/editors. 🙄 9mo
BarbaraBB I liked it but yes, it could have done with a lot of editing! 9mo
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ErikasMindfulShelf
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Mehso-so

4 stars until the ending. Way too long of a book for that kind of ending.

AmyG I actually put this one down…it was slow. Still need to pick it up. 9mo
squirrelbrain I hated the ending of this one - way too overwrought, preposterous and very suddenly…nothing. 9mo
Suet624 That ending annoyed me soooo much. 9mo
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ErikasMindfulShelf @AmyG It‘s taken me almost 4 weeks to get through. Very slow. 9mo
ErikasMindfulShelf @squirrelbrain @Suet624 I threw my kindle (on the couch) after reading the ending. So much time invested for that!! 9mo
Suet624 I know, right? I sputtered for quite some time and am still mad that I wasted time on it. 9mo
Missusb I read (most of) Skippy Dies. Also long and slow. But this ending interests me… 9mo
ErikasMindfulShelf @Missusb I‘ve had Skippy Dies on my shelf for a long time. Not sure I‘m going to read that one now. 9mo
Hooked_on_books The ending made me so mad! All that buildup for nothing! Such a cop out. 9mo
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HessCA
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“…progress takes failure and turns it into the future.”

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Floresj
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Pickpick

This 642 page book spanning different POVs of an immediate family throughout events and flashbacks sometimes meanders. However, the ending is on point and pulls together seemingly loose ends to make the final 1/4 a wonderful page turner. Developed and flawed characters, a slow burn, and worth the time!

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BkClubCare
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Panpan

Bleak. One bad decision and consequence after another. Too too long; I suffered through, though, to the bitter ambiguous WTH ending. Listened at 2x speed. People seem to think it brilliant literature but I want a refund. #ToB2024 Book 5 of the year.

Ruthiella I‘m on the fence about this one. I liked but didn‘t love Skippy Dies and everyone raves about it. 10mo
Suet624 I‘m with you. 10mo
dabbe #hailthebail! 🩶🖤🩶 10mo
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Jilly6183
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Pickpick

This is a well crafted epic about how we cannot outrun our past. It switches narratives styles depending on the perspective and again, cleverly, as the drama intensifies. And despite being over 600 pages, it feels like a faster read than it is. All that said, I think it‘s been a *bit* overhyped. But I definitely liked it enough to check out Skippy Dies.

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sisilia
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The opening quote … Hmmmmm I don‘t want to shake with fear 🤪

IuliaC Quite an opening! 😁 10mo
batsy Intriguing quote! Coincidentally I just started a book on John Donne 😁 10mo
sisilia @batsy 🤩 That‘s awesome!!! 10mo
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AmyG I just started this book. 10mo
quietlycuriouskate Well that's quite a challenging perspective! 10mo
sisilia @AmyG 🙌 10mo
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Hooked_on_books
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Pickpick

I really liked most of this book. Seeing each family member‘s story from their own perspective while seeing each then through the eyes of the others was so interesting. On the down side, I found the lack of punctuation for the one character gimmicky and the ending is obnoxious, building up to nothing at all. #tob24

BarbaraBB Agree with your review. A fun read while it lasted (which was a bit too long to be honest) but that left me behind with nothing! 10mo
AmyG 😬 10mo
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TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! 10mo
Librarybelle I‘ve wondered about this one…have been seeing it advertised at various bookstores. The punctuation thing would annoy me too! 10mo
Megabooks I‘m picking this up at some point but not in a hurry. Great review! 10mo
Deblovestoread Not rushing to read this one. You are moving through the prompts at a fantastic pace! 10mo
squirrelbrain Yes, definitely a terrible ending! 10mo
Hooked_on_books @Librarybelle If you like a deep dive into a family and really getting to know each person in the nuclear group, the majority of this is a great read. It‘s beautifully crafted, which is what makes some of the choices so questionable. 10mo
Librarybelle Good to know!! 10mo
Hooked_on_books @Deblovestoread I read a lot and have been lucky to have the books I‘m reading anyway fit the prompts so far. I have no doubt I‘ll have to be more deliberate about finding books to fit the prompts relatively soon, which will certainly slow me down. 10mo
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Branwen
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My first 'official' book I'm starting this year! With how much I adored his previous book, Skippy Dies, I'm really really looking forward to losing myself in this one! 🥰📚

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Graywacke
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Mehso-so

People love this book. I just didn‘t take to his 3rd-person interior monologues (or whatever the correct term is). I mean, it wasn‘t hard listening to, but it was hard to rationalize anyone could have this little going in inside their heads. Where is the mystery, or multiple perspectives we all have on everything? Having said all that, it makes for decent listening and he does some very interesting things structurally and thematically.

batsy Love this review! I had decided that I wasn't going to bother with this book, but now I kinda want to read it because of your take 😆 11mo
Graywacke @batsy that‘s funny. A big commitment timewise. So the book is roughly five sections. One of each of a family of four (kids first). Then a conclusion section. The conclusion section is terrific. (I didn‘t like most of the rest, but was involved and it had its moments for me. Still, it was a lot of meh listening for me.) (edited) 11mo
batsy @Graywacke It does seem like a rather sprawling book, and I can imagine that it would be hard to stay focused! 11mo
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Graywacke @batsy as a listener? No. It was easy to follow and stay with. 11mo
batsy @Graywacke I tend to get super distracted with audio books, that's probably why. But it might be worse in print. Anyway now I think I'm back to not wanting to give it a try 😂 11mo
Graywacke @batsy 🙂 I can‘t listen like I read, it‘s different and less intensive. I have to be doing something (walking or driving or folding laundry or whatever - obviously I can‘t do any of this reading. Although some people read and walk… ) I think this is an ok one to read or not read. It‘s hard to explain. It rewards, but only so much. (edited) 11mo
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Graywacke
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I‘m 7 and a half hours in. Just 18.5 to go! I‘m into it at the moment, but most of the 1st 7 hours didn‘t grab me. I spent a lot of time listening wondering why everyone was is so clueless. But i‘m carrying on optimistically. #booker2023

BarbaraBB I enjoyed it because of the things you mention. Nothing too deep, too difficult but entertaining for sure 12mo
Graywacke @BarbaraBB your review was very encouraging for me 🙂 12mo
BarbaraBB I‘m glad 😊 12mo
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Tamra Really long audios are usually a slog for me. 12mo
Graywacke @Tamra oh, no, actually i like them. First, it‘s cost efficient for my audible tokens. ☺️ But also, once I get into them, it makes for many nice commutes. 12mo
Tamra @Graywacke I can definitely see how longer audios would be fabulous for long commutes! I don‘t have any regularly enough anymore. 12mo
batsy Oh dear. I'm glad you're carrying on optimistically but shall wait for your review if you think it was worth it 😁 12mo
Graywacke @batsy it seems a divisive book. 🙂 I see a lot of reviews that say they didn‘t think it was any good. And some say the last tenth of the book is the only good part. And everyone else thinks it should win the Booker. Or something like that. Anyway, I can confidently say it‘s not perfect. 😁 12mo
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Chelsea.Poole
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@BarbaraBB came through with the alert for the #ToB24 list. I‘ve only read 11 of the 58 😱
These three were already on my list, so I‘m grabbing them from the shelves to take home with me. So convenient working at a library 😆

BarbaraBB I have read only nine! I am going to read Rouge and Rachel soon too. The Bee Incident is fun! Which of your 11 reads would you recommend? 12mo
Flaneurette You guys are way ahead of me- I‘ve only read 2 12mo
BarbaraBB @Flaneurette 👋🏽 Hi, good to see you here again!! 12mo
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ClairesReads
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The Bee Sting is a big, sprawling family epic. It‘s very much Franzen-esque and I know this comparison has been made in so many other reviews but it‘s because it is so apt. It‘s a novel about how you can‘t escape from the past, but that you must reckon with it. Murray develops complex characters, and weaves past and present trauma and turmoil together expertly, in a story that for me, never felt overcooked even though it was long.

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SaraBeagle
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I love pretty endpapers 🥰

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rmaclean4
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October #bookspin! I'm excited to see what numbers come up. @TheAromaofBooks

TheAromaofBooks Woohoo!!! 14mo
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BarbaraBB
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#Booker23 11/13

I managed to finish this one in time for the shortlist too 😅 and I ended up liking it a lot. Yes it‘s way too long and repetitive and there are an awful lot of characters. I was mostly interested in the family: Dickie and Imelda (their back stories are great) and their kids Cass and PJ. Murray knows how to build a story and the ending is bonkers! It all comes together neatly and reminded me of the younger John Irving 😀.

Cinfhen Seeing loads of mixed reviews it this is one of the books that originally grabbed my attention- love the comparison to young John Irving🥰 1y
The_Penniless_Author Now that you said "young John Irving" I may have to give it a try. 1y
BarbaraBB @The_Penniless_Author @Cinfhen It‘s the kind of story that comes over you like a wave and you just hold on and keep coming up for air - if you know what I mean 😂. That‘s how I used to feel too reading Irving back in the days. 1y
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Cinfhen I‘m waiting for the shortlist announcement ! But I may need to read this book regardless 1y
JamieArc I‘ve been surprised to see picks for this. The early reviews and Booker commentary on it had me thinking it was going to be a complete slog that people weren‘t going to like. Looking forward to the shortlist announcement! 1y
squirrelbrain You have been busy reading today, haven‘t you?! Glad you liked it too. 1y
JenP I liked this one. It reminded me of franzen actually. 1y
batsy Great review. Happy to see that it's a pick for you! 1y
BarbaraBB @JenP You are right, it is comparable to Franzen too (good to know @The_Penniless_Author and @Cinfhen !) (edited) 1y
BarbaraBB @Cinfhen Go audio! It is long but you can combine listening with doing other things, it‘s no hard read and quite entertaining. 1y
BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain I have to admit I neglected work today!! Oh the joy of working freelance 😉 1y
BarbaraBB @JamieArc I thought so too and although it could use serious editing it is a good entertaining read. 1y
BarbaraBB @batsy You liked Skippy does too, right? If so I don‘t think you can go wrong with this one. 1y
batsy @BarbaraBB Yes, I quite liked that one! 1y
Cinfhen I‘m not a fan of LONG audiobooks but I may make an exception for this one 1y
squirrelbrain That‘s why I went freelance Barbara, so I could work 3 days a week and have more time for myself….instead I‘m working 6 days per week! Where am I going wrong?! 1y
BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain You‘re obviously doing something wrong 😂 I hope I can stay away from 6 days working weeks. You are my example lol! 1y
squirrelbrain Great comparison @JenP ! 1y
squirrelbrain @Cinfhen I like this kind of book on audio….bumbles along and great for background listening. 1y
Cinfhen It‘s not available to me yet on audio or print @squirrelbrain @BarbaraBB so I‘ll need to wait a bit no matter the outcome tomorrow 😁 1y
SaraBeagle Bonkers is exactly how I described the ending to my husband! 😂 Really enjoyed this one. 13mo
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Well, I quite liked this one but what the heck is wrong with everyone at the moment, with these unresolved endings?!

@TrishB had seen a review that said if you can get through the first 560 pages, the last 60 are great. I actually found the last part to be very OTT and I hate a pathetic non-ending. Make a decision for your characters and run with it FFS! (Spoiler below, Trish!)

Granted, it could have been shorter, maybe one character less ⬇️

squirrelbrain …I could have done without PJ. I found Dickie‘s back story really interesting once it got to his college days. That‘s my last Booker longlister; I‘ll post my shortlist tomorrow. 1y
squirrelbrain @TrishB long story short…. Dickie (the Dad) went all doomsday prepper and ended up building a hideout in the woods. He was also being blackmailed, as was Big Mike.(by someone else). At the end he had arranged to meet the blackmailer in the woods, and he was going to shoot him. All of the other characters (Mum, kids etc) were also crashing through the woods in the dark and the rain for various reasons and that‘s the end….(no-one got shot, yet) 1y
TheKidUpstairs Congrats on getting through them all! This hold came in at the same time as How to Build a Boat. I decided to start Boat and wait on this one. So Boat will be the last I'll get to before the short list is announced! Still waiting on a couple holds because of later NA publishing dates. It's been a pleasure reading the list with you, @BarbaraBB and @BookwormM 😄 1y
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BarbaraBB Wow you read that fast!! Kudos for finishing them all in time. I am at 75% now and liking it too. And I just started How to Build a Boat. Probably won‘t finish them both before Thursday! 1y
squirrelbrain You‘ve not got to the annoying end bit yet then @BarbaraBB ! It is quite compelling, but very over the top, I felt. 1y
squirrelbrain I‘ve really enjoyed reading along with everyone too Megan. @TheKidUpstairs 1y
Caroline2 Argh, the current trend for non-endings needs to stop already!!! 🤬 1y
Hooked_on_books I just finished this and while I really liked the book, I hated that ending. So much build up with no pay off! What a load of crap! 10mo
squirrelbrain LOL @Hooked_on_books - it kind of ruined the whole book though didn‘t it?! 10mo
Hooked_on_books It really did! And I‘m bewildered, because one of the things I appreciated about the book is that it‘s constructed so beautifully. So to put an ending like that to such a well crafted book is like congratulating the reader for getting through over 600 pages by slapping them across the face. Why?!? 😫 10mo
squirrelbrain It felt like someone completely different had written the ending @Hooked_on_books - so disappointing. Have you read any of his other books? I haven‘t, although people seem to love Skippy Dies so I may try it sometime. 10mo
Hooked_on_books No, this is the only one of his I‘ve read. I‘m a little ambivalent about trying another. If the ending has been as well done as the rest of the book, I would be jumping on his back list, but now I‘m just not sure what to expect. 10mo
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#WeeklyForecast 38/23

A few more days until the #Booker23 shortlist will be announced. I have these three to read yet but probably won‘t be able to finish them all in time. I am listening to The Bee Sting as well and enjoying it more than I expected. At 70% I have still not bailed!
Both others I started and put away because I wasn‘t in the mood but now there‘s no way out anymore so I am picking up Prophet Song again!

Cinfhen Oh wow! You‘re almost done 🙌🏻Happy reading 1y
squirrelbrain I only have The Bee Sting to finish but I‘m not sure if I‘ll have time before Thursday… I‘m about a third of the way through. 🤞 1y
TrishB I‘m in awe 😁 (mainly that you‘re finishing The Bee Sting!) 1y
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BarbaraBB @TrishB It is very repetitive and way too long but on audio kind of zen to listen to while doing other things 😉 1y
BarbaraBB @squirrelbrain It‘s sooo long but not as boring as I expected don‘t you agree? I am 2/3 through but not sure if I‘ll finish in time either. And I haven‘t read In Ascension and A Spell of Good Things yet, haven‘t got a copy. I‘ll read them if they make the shortlist! (edited) 1y
Suet624 It‘s just sooooooo long…and I usually like long books. 1y
squirrelbrain I‘m liking it at the moment Barbara. I decided to follow your lead and I bought the audio too. I never listen to books when I‘m working (actually, not even the radio) but I was doing some mundane work today so I listened to a bit. 1y
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I‘m enjoying this story but I‘m a little unsure of its worthiness for a spot on the Booker Longlist. I still have a fair bit to read so perhaps I‘ll change my mind by the end. 🤷‍♀️

Ruthiella Apparently the end is a humdinger. 1y
Becker @Ruthiella Yes I‘ve heard that. I look forward to it. 👍 1y
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This one from the Booker list just came in at the library - I didn‘t know it was so long! 😮‍💨

BarbaraBB I‘m listening to it on audio. Not sure what to think after 25% 1y
sarahbarnes @barbarabb I started it and read about 40 pages. It‘s interesting but not sure yet, either. 1y
TrishB Good luck! I bailed. 1y
sarahbarnes @TrishB oof, I just read your review. I‘m not clicking with much on the Booker list so far this year. 1y
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