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Ch 10: #dancetime #maggiedoesntwanttodance #finallydanceswithtorry #stevengetsjealous #ispelledhisnamewrong 🤷🏻‍♀️ #itwouldhavebeenfastertochangeit #movingon #theystroll #stephenkissesmaggieshand #outrage #philvisitsthenextday #maggiewontangertom #staytuned #hashtagbrigade

BarkingMadRead @librarybelle @bookwormjillk @cuilin @mcctrish @deblovestoread @dabbe @julieclair @ruthiella @clare-dragonfly @thearomaofbooks @daisey @quietjenn @morr_books @leftcoastzen @kwmg40 @alldebooks @eeclayton @sparklemn @elizamarie @kao @jenlovesjt47 3w

mcctrish Can Tom be mad once he hears all the details ? Phil loves Maggie so much he makes his dad get the mill back into Tom‘s hands - seems like enough to me but Tom likes to punish so maybe not #cutoffhisnosetospitehisface (edited) 3w

Clare-Dragonfly @mcctrish Oh, I bet Tom can find a way to be mad. 🙄 3w

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mcctrish @Clare-Dragonfly 😂😂 3w

TheAromaofBooks @mcctrish @Clare-Dragonfly I'm fully expecting Tom to be too proud to accept the mill once he finds out Phillip was involved 🙄 3w

Clare-Dragonfly Yeah, that‘s my thought as well. 😖 3w

mcctrish @TheAromaofBooks you aren‘t wrong 3w

Bookwormjillk Tom will stop being mad once he finds a way to take credit for the whole thing 3w

dabbe @BarkingMadRead @mcctrish @Clare-Dragonfly @TheAromaofBooks @Bookwormjillk
I have to kind of bag on Maggie here. Her indecision is what's affecting everyone. She's not being truthful with anyone regarding her real feelings for Phil (which is NOT romantic love) and Stephen (which is sexual desire and maybe love). ⬇️ 3w

dabbe And re: the hand-arm kissing, what enrages her most is that “Stephen thought more lightly of her than he did of Lucy.“ Thus, she has been unconsciously thinking of her cousin as a rival, and she is angry that the disputed lover seems to treat her with less respect than he does her blonde cousin. #mytwocents 3w

Bookwormjillk @dabbe you are so right 3w

mcctrish @Bookwormjillk true dat and @dabbe Maggie needs to go to her situation and take a breather 3w

dabbe @Bookwormjillk 🤩 3w

dabbe @mcctrish 🎯🩵🎯 3w

ElizaMarie @Dabbe I agree with these statements. I feel like Maggie not being honest about her feelings allows others to act in ways that can appear problematic. Maggie needs to grow a backbone. 3w

dabbe @ElizaMarie She's the 19th-century damsel in distress. 🤣 2w

Leftcoastzen I‘m with @dabbe on Maggie. I also think Tom will react badly to the mill situation, he always does. 2w

dabbe @Leftcoastzen 🎯🩵🎯 2w

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DieAReader

Untitled | Untitled

#TeamFlerken #TrappedInASpookyHouse #ReadMyRoom

Although these magazines may not count for points, I‘ve finished 2/3 - final one is being read as we speak🤓📚

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dabbe If a short story can count as much as a novel, then I say these absolutely DO count!!! (#mytwocents) 🤩😀🤗 7mo

DieAReader @dabbe 🤓I like the way you think! I guess I just hadn‘t really though of it that way🤦🏻‍♀️😂 Thanks❤️‍🔥 7mo

dabbe @DieAReader 🖤🧡🖤 7mo

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PuddleJumper Oh yeah, you can definitely count that 7mo

DieAReader @PuddleJumper 🥳🎉Fantastic!! Thanks so much❤️‍🔥🤓 7mo

DieAReader UPDATE: Final magazine✅ 7mo

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TheAromaofBooks

The Scarlet Letter | Nathaniel Hawthorne

(thru ch17) The story continues, albeit not quickly lol Have any of you studied/taught this book in school? What theme(s) do you usually draw from it in a classroom setting? I'm honestly struggling to figure out what point Hawthorne is trying to make. The story itself isn't exactly enthralling haha I don't hate it, but I also don't feel like much is happening. Thoughts??

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BarkingMadRead I barely remember this from school, they probably meant it as a cautionary tale 🤣 2y

Librarybelle Hawthorne felt the Puritan society was so quick to judge and took great lengths to capitalize on any perceived sins. It is a cautionary tale of sorts, @BarkingMadRead , because it shows how a woman with independent thought in a Puritan community would in essence be judged. I think the book was written to make people gasp - especially in New England and Massachusetts, Hawthorne‘s state and the bed of Puritanical ideals. ⬇️⬇️⬇️ 2y

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Librarybelle Hope that doesn‘t sound too authoritarian! I was not an English major, but I had to read this book a few times for various classes in various contexts, including history. Hawthorne was so anti-Puritan. In a way, this could be his attack against society for the Salem Witch Trials (Hawthorne‘s ancestor was a judge, and Hawthorne lived in Salem in the 19th century). I love it, even if it is so slow going - so 19th century 😂 - ⬇️⬇️⬇️ 2y

Librarybelle But I think I love it knowing some of the context of it. Rumor is it is based on a real woman, who is buried in Boston. There are a couple of different women‘s stories I have found to be the “inspiration,” but the one I‘m more familiar with is Elizabeth Pain, who does have a placard by her grave in Old King‘s Churchyard that indicates her Scarlet Letter connection. 2y

Librarybelle I‘ll be quiet now! 😂 2y

dabbe To piggyback on what @Librarybelle said, Hawthorne's ancestor who was a judge and chief interrogator spelled his name HATHORNE. Nathaniel purposely changed the spelling to hide his family's dark past. This past and horrific shame Hawthorne felt is seen in many of his works to show that we all sin no matter what, and society does not necessarily have the right to determine an individual's morality. #mytwocents 2y

TheAromaofBooks @Librarybelle @dabbe - Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!!! They totally make sense. 2y

TheAromaofBooks @BarkingMadRead - Maybe that's why this is such a popular high school text 😂 😂 😂 2y

dabbe @TheAromaofBooks If ever there was a book for angst-ing, this is it! 🤣 2y

jewright I always think it‘s a study of guilt and its impact on people, as well as how we judge others. Hawthorne seems to write a lot about hidden sin. “The Minister‘s Black Veil” is one of his short stories that follows those same ideas. (edited) 2y

TheAromaofBooks @jewright - That interpretation makes a lot of sense to me. It's interesting to watch the way guilt eats at the minister for his unconfessed sin/hypocrisy and how that is slowly breaking down his mind. 2y

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Arvena

All Your Perfects | Colleen Hoover

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This entire book could've been 10 pages if they just COMMUNICATED and treated her depression...😕
I'm thinking that Colleen Hoover isn't my author 😔

Kelly_the_Bookish_Sidekick I was not impressed with November 9, and after reading reviews of her other books, I've decided she's probably not for me, either. 2y

Alwaysbeenaloverofbooks She‘s not for me either!! 2y

Parvez Felt the same while reading Verity. That could have been an excellent short story. 2y

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dabbe She needs to slow down and give better care to her plot-lines. #mytwocents 2y

BkClubCare Yay! My FOMO on Hoover is dwindling to zero 🤣 2y

AvidReader25 @BkClubCare I tried two of her books and she‘s not for me! 2y

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AvidReader25

The Once and Future King | T. H. White

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Ill-Made Knight: This section was huge, but I love that we saw a deeper character arc with Lancelot. He travels the spectrum from hero to lover to madman & finally penitent & proud father. There‘s a lot to process, but 1 thing that stood out was Arthur's realization that forcing people into peace through violence sends the wrong message & isn't sustainable. It‘s interesting he continues to ignore his wife's infidelity at all costs.
#OAFkingalong

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AvidReader25 Now here‘s where I am frustrated with the story. In the entire book, so far, there‘s been almost no interesting females characters we get to explore Maid Marion in the first book actually had a bit of a personality, but we only got to see it for a minute. Guinevere‘s portrayal is completely unrealistic. This queen, who is part of a groundbreaking nation building a new system of law is supposed to be a petulant, jealous, and petty. 2y

AvidReader25 Instead of showing us a complicated picture of unexpected passion and complex loyalties, we see her pitch fits when she doesn‘t get her way and completely ignore Lancelot‘s moral struggle. It just wasn‘t believable to me. I‘d like to see her story through a different author‘s lens. 2y

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TheAromaofBooks I've just never been a fan of Lancelot, who always comes across as self-absorbed and masochistic to me, so this book was a bit of a struggle for me. I agree about Guinevere (and I think also the portrayal of Elaine) - both the women in this story didn't feel realistic to me... but then, I didn't particularly like any of the male characters, either haha Also, I've been spoiled by Gerald Morris's Arthurian tales, which I LOVE. 2y

currentlyreadinginCO I liked this section! This was the turning point for me where I became invested. I don't really enjoy any of the characters, and I agree with the point that I would like to see all of this through another author's lens ... I guess that I like the story and I'm glad that I'm reading it, but I'm not overly impressed with T. H. White's writing. 2y

currentlyreadinginCO I did like Guenevere, though. She's a mess, but I don't think it's less tongue-in-cheek than the other portrayals. I was compelled by the explanation of her living through wartime and being unable to fight. But yeah, she loves two men that are supposed to be superior to all others, and she's caught in a fascinating mess over it. I would love to see her written with greater depth. 2y

currentlyreadinginCO And I understand how that's contradictory haha 2y

Lcsmcat @thereadingreference I liked this section too. But I found I sympathized more with Lancelot. He‘s got this deep-seated need to prove himself, like a little boy who never quite believes that he is lovable. Jenny is a mess, but a believable one. Think Marie Antoinette, married of as a teenager against her inclination and for political reasons. It tracks for me. And I‘m loving White‘s tongue-in-cheek anachronistic style. 2y

dabbe In some of my research before teaching this, I discovered that T.H. White had a troubled childhood. His parents barely paid attention to him while growing up in India, and he blamed his mother more for that than his father. #gofigure Quite a few critics even labeled him as a misogynist. That “might“ be one reason why few women get portrayed well here. #mytwocents 2y

currentlyreadinginCO @Lcsmcat definitely! I loved the mentions of airplanes 😂 2y

Lcsmcat @dabbe Thanks. That childhood makes his portrayal of Lancelot make sense to me. 2y

AvidReader25 @TheAromaofBooks Yes! Elaine and the other female characters all felt that way, very one dimensional. I need to read the Morris tales! 2y

AvidReader25 @thereadingreference I didn‘t think about her as living in wartime, but being unable to fight and go on quests. I like that perspective. I can‘t imagine how frustrating that would be. I felt very invested too. 2y

AvidReader25 @Lcsmcat So true, he seemed so broken. It was so strange that we kept being told he was so ugly, like that was his one defining characteristic. 2y

AvidReader25 @dabbe That‘s heartbreaking, but definitely explains some things. 2y

BarbaraJean @AvidReader25 I really appreciated Arthur‘s realization about his methods being contradictory. It felt like he‘d internalized Merlyn's teaching—that he had to keep thinking for himself and evaluate the consequences of his choices. I've wished there was more development of Arthur in these last two sections. 2y

BarbaraJean @Lcsmcat Your summing up of Lancelot and Guinevere feels spot-on to me. They both felt very realistic (well, realistic within the world White has set up!). I found Lancelot sympathetic, too—he‘s the only one who really seems conflicted about the love triangle! Although this section was much slower, I liked the greater complexity it drew out with Lancelot. But I'm conflicted about Guinevere. (continued ⬇) 2y

BarbaraJean The portrayal of her relationship with Lancelot felt thoroughly believable: willful avoidance of the moral dilemma, irrational and hypocritical jealousy, and even genuine love for Arthur (though a completely different kind). I didn‘t like her, but I found her believable. Like @thereadingreference, I wanted to see more depth. There‘s so much that could have been fleshed out beyond her relationship with Lancelot, and that‘s almost all we see. 2y

batsy @thereadingreference I had the same contradictory thoughts about Guenever. I thought White was sympathetic to her but somehow couldn't quite bring her to life in the way he could Lancelot, which I suppose is an interesting look at the author's limitations. Like @dabbe mentions Sylvia Townsend-Warner's afterword describes him as having a troubled relationship with both parents but especially his mother. 2y

batsy @Lcsmcat I agree, I thought Lancelot was so well-done, with a kind of "fatal flaw" in his character (wanting to be noble to the point of not realising why) that it tormented him. It felt very much like a Greek tragedy at some level, but also fleshed out and modern. 2y

Lcsmcat @batsy I too read it with Greek tragedy in mind. There are so many parallels! And if Guenever was only portrayed as a foul to Lancelot and Arthur, I saw that as the author‘s choice. Her story would be different, as would Mordred‘s or Gawain‘s. But one must choose a perspective to write from. 2y

BkClubCare @dabbe - this totally jives with my thinking on THW and I only did cursory look at his background. 2y

currentlyreadinginCO @batsy so true about Lancelot - you summed it up extremely well! Now I'll be reading with Greek tragedy in mind 2y

dabbe @Lcsmcat Good point on Lancelot, the ill-made knight. 💙🤗💚 2y

dabbe @AvidReader25 💙🤗💚 2y

dabbe @BkClubCare You nailed it! 💙🤗💚 2y

BkClubCare @dabbe - well, not sure abt that! TY for all your sharing of resources and insights!! 2y

BkClubCare Big kudos and applause for my cohost who took on most (99%) of hosting duties for this readalong!! 👏🏆🗡️ @AvidReader25 Melissa is such a wonderful person and drama lover and world traveler and book friend. ❤️ Thank you everyone who participated!! 2y

dabbe @BkClubCare 🥰 2y

AvidReader25 @BkClubCare 😊 I‘ll do readalongs with you any time sweet friend! 2y

AvidReader25 @BarbaraJean @batsy I think that‘s my main struggle with Guenever. It felt like we only saw her in the context of her relationship with Lancelot and Arthur. I wanted to see her brought to life outside of that triangle, but you are both right, that‘s not the story he was telling. 2y

AvidReader25 @Lcsmcat @batsy I loved the Greek tragedy parallels throughout the book. These quests and lofty ideals being brought to their knees by mortal weakness and flawed humanity, it was beautifully done. 2y

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Cinfhen

Not That Kind of Girl | Lena Dunham

#TimbitTunes Lena Dunham is #ThatGirl a modern day Brooklynite; outspoken & frank. Crude and unapologetic her “memoir” struck me as a little too self indulgent. As I‘m really not a fan of the HBO series Girls, nor do I follow Lena Dunham on Social Media her book of shared lessons was a waste of time for me.

TheKidUpstairs

mrsh62010 She‘s a terrible person. 6y

Cinfhen She didn‘t come across as remarkable or special, that‘s for sure @mrsh62010 😉 6y

TrishB Never seen or read, but don‘t think I‘m the demographic for this! 6y

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Susannah She‘s very problematic, but I don‘t know that I would say she‘s a terrible person. She just strikes me as the epitome of all the worst impulses of Millenials—she‘s never had a thought she didn‘t think it vital to share—and she reeks of privilege that she gives only superficial acknowledgement. (And much of the above is my age coming out. Now get off my lawn, Lena Dunham!😁) (edited) 6y

Cathythoughts I don‘t know this one at all ... sounds perfect for prompt ♥️👍🏻 6y

Cinfhen I agree @Susannah she does embody the worst of millennials and you‘re probably right too @TrishB I was/am the wrong audience for her shtick 6y

Cinfhen I think you can skip this book @Cathythoughts it didn‘t hold too much literary merit 😜 6y

KarenUK I‘m not a huge fan either, but I think to write, act and produce a very popular show at such a young age is pretty amazing, particularly when she has major health challenges. It‘s worth reading the chapter about her in this book. Reading all the comments here reminded me of it.

Too Fat, Too Slutty, Too Loud: The Rise and Reign of the Unruly Woman

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KarenUK She‘s definitely someone that people react strongly too! 😂 6y

Cinfhen I think you raise a good point @KarenUK don‘t have to be a fan or agree with everything she says or does to recognize she has accomplished quite a lot in her young life. 6y

TheKidUpstairs I was never a fan of Girls, and I've never really connected with Lena Dunham. I think I'm just that little bit too old. But I agree with @KarenUK she has accomplished a lot for such a young woman, so I will tip my hat to her for that. 6y

LeahBergen I was a fan of Girls but not a big fan of this book. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 6y

teebe I agree with @mrsh62010 . And a lot of the issues with her re: privilege, racism, etc. aren‘t generational. The one thing that‘s very millennial about her is her own belief in how “feminist” and “woke” she is (then again, hippies in the 60s were the same 🤷🏻‍♀️) (edited) 6y

Cinfhen I think it‘s Lena Dunham @TheKidUpstairs @LeahBergen @teebe she‘s just not “personable” and I think it‘s part age/ immaturity and part upbringing #MyTwoCents Thankfully there are MANY more young women who are role models and people to admire 6y

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Bookzombie

The Stepford Wives | Ira Levin

I‘m going with Fleetwood Mac‘s 1977 album, Rumors, plus one song. Rumors was fueled by the drama going on in the band (lots of drugs, the implosion of the Buckingham/Nicks relationship and the dissolving of John and Christine McVie‘s marriage). I disagree with Mick though. Stevie Nick‘s song, Silver Springs, should have been left on the dang album. #mytwocents #stepfordsummerparty

Link to Silver Springs: https://youtu.be/Ud2XKt2N8fs

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Bklover Yesssssss!❤️❤️ 7y

batsy Love Fleetwood Mac! So long since I listened to them ❤️ 7y

Cinfhen Man, did they make for drama!!! And amazing music 🙌🏻 7y

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Reggie My parents used to sing Dreams to each other when we were on road trips. Lol 🤷🏽‍♂️ #mytwocents Sara is my favorite song of theirs. Nice post. 7y

CarolynM #unpopularopinion I hate Fleetwood Mac 7y

Mdargusch I loved the Rumors album! 7y

mabell Love the background info! 7y

Cathythoughts Yes !!!!! Fleetwood Mac ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ 7y

Bookzombie @Bklover @batsy ❤️❤️❤️ 7y

Bookzombie @Cinfhen Buckingham and Nicks created lots of drama, but even before that the band was no stranger to it. This is my favorite album, but my husband and I also like some of the albums before B & N joined the group. 7y

Bookzombie @Reggie Thanks! ❤️Aww, that‘s a lovely memory about your parents. 🙂 Yes, I have strong feelings about Silver Springs, lol. Sara is a great song. 7y

Bookzombie @CarolynM It‘s okay! We all love and hate different things. ❤️ 7y

Bookzombie @Mdargusch Yay! 7y

Bookzombie @mabell Thanks! Yeah, when you hear the background on songs or what was going on in the artist‘s lives at the time, it gives them such life. Buckingham wrote “Go Your Own Way” about the breakup. Nicks has said she hates the lyrics “packing up, shacking up is all you want to do” in the song. 7y

Bookzombie @Cathythoughts ❤️❤️❤️ 7y

GripLitGrl Yes!!!❤❤❤ 7y

Cathythoughts Oh I remember where I was ( in a little shop , long gone ) when I first heard Dreams in the 70‘s. I remember what I was doing ( buying a dress ) for an event .... I remember it as clearly as today. Songs really do spark memories in our lives. This was a good one for me. I hope for you too 👍🏻❤️❤️ 7y

Cathythoughts I remember asking the woman who owned the shop.... what‘s that song !!!!!!! 7y

Bookzombie @GripLitGrl ❤️❤️❤️ 7y

Bookzombie @Cathythoughts That‘s lovely. Yes, songs really do that. My husband usually buys and downloads new music when we go on a road trip. Then that album always brings back memories of our trip. 7y

DebinHawaii Fleetwood Mac brings back such memories! 😍😍😍Great pick! 7y

Bookzombie @DebinHawaii Thanks! ❤️ 7y

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Pacific Crest Trials: A Psychological and Emotional Guide to Successfully Thru-Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail | Zach Davis

Also, I heard that Strayed donates $ to the PCTA which works to maintain the trail. So these elitists need to stfu. #rant #rantover #mytwocents

Anyone read Wild? What did you think of it? If you liked the adventure aspect of I highly recommend Thruhiking Will Break Your Heart by Carrot Quinn. 😁

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Chelleo

Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body | Roxane Gay

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So I finished this and posted it to Goodreads with a ⭐️⭐️ rating and no review because I wasn‘t sure how I really felt about it. @EchoLogical asked me what I didn‘t like about it (given the ⭐️⭐️) so I pondered on it and came up with this: See Comments

Chelleo I haven‘t really figured it out. I‘m not a huge fan of memoirs though I do appreciate her sharing her story. She lived through some dark stuff and made some decisions that really opened her up to harm but she somehow persevered if by nothing other than luck. (1 of 3) (edited) 7y

Chelleo She had some interesting and insightful perspectives and ideas on how society addresses obesity and obese people. It‘s repetitive in many places. I listened to her reading the audiobook version and although she has a nice voice it was sort of devoid of feeling. (2 of 3) (edited) 7y

Chelleo Another reader describes her writing (of this book) as detached and I agree. This is the first book of hers that I‘ve read so I hope Bad Feminist is better given that it‘s focused on an external topic. (3 of 3) (edited) 7y

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TheBookHippie I didn't like it either ? I think devoid of emotion is how I describe it. I liked Bad Feminist better, but still yearn for deeper ...Bad Feminist had me laughing -but also made me realize I'm not alone in being a "not considered normal" Feminist which was refreshing . #mytwocents 7y

Chelleo @TheBookHippie I saw glimpses of her sense of humor. I chuckled when she described the “bike-off” in the gym with the other lady. (edited) 7y

TheBookHippie @Chelleo I actually laughed out loud reading Bad Feminist, some of it is so true it's laugh or cry- her sarcasm is on par for sure. 7y

EchoLogical Aww man. Maybe I'll skip this one altogether if it's worse than Bad Feminist. I can't really say what I disliked about it. Only that it failed to grab my attention and I bailed. 7y

Chelleo @EchoLogical I wouldn‘t put it high on a reading list but maybe one day you‘ll be more open to it. It wasn‘t awful, it just didn‘t really go above and beyond for me. 7y

emilyhaldi I totally agree with the "detached" comment. I also didn't feel like many of her thoughts were especially ground-breaking so I was mostly bored. 7y

Dulcinella Mmm... the detached way this book feels might be due to the fact she writes it as a survivor. Sometimes writing or talking detached is the only way to cope. At least I felt that when I read it and it made me like it more. 7y

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