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Howl and Other Poems
Howl and Other Poems: Pocket Poets Number 4 | Allen Ginsberg
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The epigraph for Howl is from Walt Whitman: "Unscrew the locks from the doors!/Unscrew the doors themselves from their jambs!" Announcing his intentions with this ringing motto, Allen Ginsberg published a volume of poetry which broke so many social taboos that copies were impounded as obscene, and the publisher, poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti, was arrested. The court case that followed found for Ginsberg and his publisher, and the publicity made both the poet and the book famous. Ginsberg went on from this beginning to become a cultural icon of sixties radicalism. This works seminal place in the culture is indicated in Czeslaw Milosz's poetic tribute to Ginsberg: "Your blasphemous howl still resounds in a neon desert where the human tribe wanders, sentenced to unreality".
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CogsOfEncouragement
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Panpan

Well, no notes from Jess in this copy, but I can check it off my #RoryGilmoreBookClub list.
It is beat generation stuff. I don‘t admire them. I find them to be miserable and self-centered. I didn‘t like On the Road by Kerouac either.

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PaperbackPirate
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#MarvellousMay check-in time!

I read 52/275 pages of Fluke: Or, I Know Why the Winged Whale Sings by Christopher Moore

On Saturday morning my nephew texted me from City Lights Bookstore in San Francisco, which prompted a reread of Howl by Allen Ginsberg (18 pages).

Total: 70/355 pages

Thank you @Andrew65 !

🌊 Photo taken in 2019 at Half Moon Beach, CA

Ruthiella Beautiful photo! 😍 2y
Andrew65 Doing well 👏👏👏 2y
Leftcoastzen Wish I was on that beach right now ! 2y
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PaperbackPirate Thank you @Ruthiella ! 🌊💙 2y
PaperbackPirate Thank you @Andrew65 ! 📚 2y
PaperbackPirate I had a feeling you would enjoy this one @Leftcoastzen ! 🌊💙 2y
ShyBookOwl Gorgeous photo! 2y
PaperbackPirate Hard to take a bad picture there, @ShyBookOwl Thank you! 2y
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GingerAntics
Howl, and other Poems | Allen Ginsberg
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UNPOPULAR OPINION
Ginsberg really loves his nudity (does he want to be a nudist?!), male genitals, and what I‘m guessing is meant to allude to sex. He comes off as angry and vindictive in places. He seemed to think Walt Whitman was a predator of underaged boys which is just ridiculous. It was hard to tell. Some of this poetry didn‘t even come off as lucid. No thank you. Hard pass for me.
#AllenGinsberg #Howl #Poetry #unpopularopinion

GingerAntics @TheBookHippie and the only mention of water was about oily (dirty?) river water. No oceans. Way to disappoint Whitman while insulting him. Fail. 4y
BookishBelle I agree. I was required to read Ginsburg in college. Didn‘t like it at all. 4y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics scratches it off the TBR no thank you no one insults my Walt ! 4y
GingerAntics @BookishBelle oh I‘m so glad it wasn‘t just me. That‘s a relief. 4y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie the second or third poem is all about going grocery shopping with Whitman, and he claims Whitman is ogling the “boys” whatever that means. It‘s just weird. Not sure if he means young men that still look like boys or actual boys. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ It‘s not good. 4y
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GingerAntics
Howl, and other Poems | Allen Ginsberg
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I‘m not sure about this collection yet. The first poem was so confusing and all over the place I didn‘t get past the first page. Forget the other 11 pages. The second poem was very in your face and almost crude in places. This one was interesting, but I‘m not sure why he thought he‘d find Walt Whitman in a grocery store (or glaring at grocery boys). @TheBookHippie
#AllenGinsberg #Howl #Poetry

CarolynM I think he imagined Whitman ogling the boys rather than glaring at them😉 4y
GingerAntics @CarolynM yeah, that is probably the better word for it. Still, it seems more mythological Whitman than actual Whitman. 4y
GingerAntics @CarolynM although, I suppose if he realise discovered his own “gayness” in the 40‘s, he‘d have to go for the mythological to find role models or heroes, as opposed to actually having people to look to for guidance or to know what he was feeling sort of thing. I guess I can see where he‘d take comfort (if that‘s the right word) in the mental image of Whitman checking out bag boys on the sly. 4y
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TheBookHippie Maybe he thought Whitman was closeted ..scholars opinions vary as most believe he was bisexual however most written at the time is that he was homosexual. He didn‘t like labels didn‘t believe in them I think he was probably fluid sexually . I‘ve gone to several exhibits that explore all this but never did I get the impression he was lusting after boys in public 🤣🤷🏽‍♀️ no oceans mentioned . 😳🤣🤣🤣 (edited) 4y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie there is a severe lack of oceans in this collection, yes. 🌊🤣 yeah, I think to say that he was listing after children is disturbing. I‘m hoping Ginsberg meant young men as opposed to actual little boys. 4y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I agree that he was probably fluid. He was definitely in the middle area of the spectrum. From his writing it seems he enjoyed everyone. More power to him, I say, as long as everyone‘s consenting. 4y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics my feelings exactly the Ginsberg it sounds unethical I don‘t think that was true at all. 4y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I‘m really struggling with this collection. The poem before this is almost lewd by today‘s standards. I totally get why it was considered lewd back in the 40s and 50s. It seemed unnecessarily lewd, like he just wanted to freak people out and rub his own sex life in other people‘s faces, for lack of another way to describe it. The one before that was almost nonsensical. (edited) 4y
TheBookHippie @GingerAntics I‘ve heard he was very angry and wanted to make people squirm 😳🤷🏽‍♀️ I‘ve never read this but I‘ve had it on my list off and on to read. 4y
GingerAntics @TheBookHippie I can believe that. It was poetic shock and awe. That‘s the best way to put it. I‘m not really impressed. (edited) 4y
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GingerAntics
Howl, and other Poems | Allen Ginsberg
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Taking this for a spin as part of my 2020 Adventure in Poetry. Right off the bat, the first poem is 12 pages long. I‘m not sure this is going to go well.
#AllenGinsberg #Howl #Poetry

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GingerAntics
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One of my students suggested this to me, and it was on sale, so of course I bought it.
#AllenGinsberg #Howl #poetry #studentrecommendations #writerrecommendations

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Leftcoastzen A favorite of my mine. 5y
wanderinglynn @Leftcoastzen 🙌🏻 Mine too. I reread it every April for poetry month. 5y
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arlenefinnigan
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TrishB Great pick 👍🏻 6y
Cinfhen clever 🙌🏻💡 6y
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PaperbackPirate
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Pickpick

Hooray! I finished my #BookAWeekChallenge with Howl for Banned Books Week! Then I watched the docudrama Howl with James Franco. When he reads the poem it‘s animated so I definitely recommend it for others who have read this.
Dirty enough to warrant a trial? No, but I looked up all the names mentioned & got quite an education!
Thank you for hosting and giving me encouragement @TheReadingMermaid ! 🧜🏾‍♀️
#bannedbooksweek #bannedbook

Linsy 🖤🖤🖤 6y
plemmdog I loved that movie and how they combined it with animation 5y
PaperbackPirate @plemmdog It was really creative - definitely a unique docudrama! 5y
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Megara
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My coworker has a #signed Allen Ginsberg at home. EEEEEEEEEEE!

IamIamIam 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤 6y
Megara @IamIamIam RIGHT??! 6y
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Lindy
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The movie Howl was screened as part of the Edmonton #Poetry Festival. Love the courtroom scenes. Love the poem.

“Concentrate on what you want to say to yourself and your friends. Follow your inner moonlight; don't hide the madness. You say what you want to say when you don't care who's listening.”

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Keigh.art
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Beautifully written poetry that's relatable for any generation. Ginsberg is brilliantly insane in his poem, Howl. Highly liberal ideas displayed in fast paced & urgent lines of poetry. The emotion can be felt between each page. Highly recommend!

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mrp27
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#24in48 #readathon #fantasticfirstline

Finished this slim volume of poetry last night. Not only a fantastic first line but iconic as well.

Book 2 for #MountTBRChallenge completed!

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arlenefinnigan
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TrishB Wow 😁 great pick 6y
Leftcoastzen ❤️👍👍 6y
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Nat_Reads
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Last book of 2017: I love Ginsberg! His poems are so pertinent for today--reading these aloud to my husband tonight was invigorating and just fun. A quote I thought Littens would like: "My books piled up before me for my use/waiting in space where I placed them, they/haven't disappeared, time's left its remnants and qual--/ities for me to use--my words piled up, my texts, my/manuscripts, my loves." Purchased at City Lights in San Fran!

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PoetWarriors
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You should read Allen Ginsberg!
#poetwarrior
We have all the banned books at Poet Warriors!

DrJunk 👁❌👁 6y
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PoetWarriors
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You should read Allen Ginsberg!
#poetwarrior
We have all the banned books at Poet Warriors!

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callielafleur
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LouLouLane
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Finally crossed #citylights off of my bookstore bucket list. Had the poetry floor alone for a few minutes, sat and looked out of the window and it was heaven.

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HLouiseM
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Everything is Holy!

I was busy all day yesterday, so Happy Howl Day today!

CoffeeBooksRepeat Gorgeous view! 7y
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JacintaMCarter
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arlenefinnigan
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RealLifeReading ❤️ 7y
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arlenefinnigan
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Cinfhen I'm reading off my iPhone so it's hard to see all the words, but wow! Powerful 7y
JanuarieTimewalker13 Interesting! 7y
arlenefinnigan @Cinfhen he had me at "go fuck yourself with your atom bomb". 7y
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Alma
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Who else had a crush on this guy?! 😍

PS: I had to use Howl for the reason you all know ...

Suzze I have no idea who that is. #feelingveryold 7y
Alma @Suzze It's Jess Mariano from the Gilmore Girls series. 😊 7y
Suzze @Alma Ah! I am old. My oldest grandson was born the year that started (2000). #youngatheart 7y
Alma @Suzze Age doesn't matter at all! As you said young at heart! 😉 7y
8little_paws Yassssss!!! 7y
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OrangeMooseReads
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OrangeMooseReads
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Ginsberg❤ I love my beat poets (1/2)
#litsypoetry365

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OrangeMooseReads
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'Howl' is an amazing poems. There is so much to it. You have the surface anger of Ginsberg directed at the abundant drug use that is killing his fellow artists and thinkers. But also there is the anger at society for not accepting the "Beat Generation" and the way they think and they way they believe. There are some amazing lines in this poem as well. #litsypoerty365

SharonGoforth I just picked up a collection of Ginsberg the other day on my Kindle. I haven't read any of it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. (edited) 7y
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OrangeMooseReads
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All that is left to put away

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JacintaMCarter
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Pickpick

At the risk of sounding like a stereotypical English major, I urge all of you to read Howl at some point.

Bookgirl Yes! It made a huge impact on me when I read it years ago as part of my English major education!! 8y
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HLouiseM
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Holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, everything is holy, every day's an eternity, and this day is my wedding anniversary!

brendanmleonard Happy anniversary! 8y
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annmayhew
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My family went to San Francisco and all I got was this FANTASTIC shirt (+ lots of other swag from City Lights Books AND x-rated fortune cookies).
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#shopindie #bookselleronvacation #howl #beat #ginsberg #booksellerontheroad #citylights #booksellerswag #booklover #sanfrancisco #california #beatgeneration #norcal #nocal #bookseller

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HLouiseM
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"Moloch, whose poverty is the specter of genius..." More from the Boston Public Library, because it was the first time I brought my Jason.

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LitHousewife
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#TBT I was about this age when one of my college professors taught Howl by Allen Ginsberg. I was so naive. Howl both intimidated and fascinated me. Later that semester, Ginsberg came to Grand Rapids to give a reading. I dragged my younger sister with me because I was too scared to go alone. What an experience! Watching him perform is an experience I'll never forget. Every so often I reread Howl to remember that evening when my world expanded.

marixa I love that pic! 90s? 8y
DivineDiana What a fantastic experience! 8y
LitHousewife @marixa Thanks. Yes, that was the earlyish 90s. 8y
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LitHousewife @DivineDiana It really was. A good reminder never to let fear hold you back. Plus it's a good laugh between my sister and me. She was scandalized. 🙂 8y
Yournewfriendsams Beautiful pic! I wish I could have seen any of the beats do a reading- what an special experience for you!! Howl is one of my favorites ever ❤️ 8y
OSChamberlain What a beautiful story! 8y
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Lindy
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I reread this poem every so often. It affects me every time. ?
Introduction by William Carlos Williams: "Hold back the edges of your gowns, Ladies, we are going through hell."

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scripturient
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#TBT - I love this picture of my brother and me reading. This was taken in Boston in 2001. We look so late-90s. 😂

mllemay Love the overalls 👍🏻 8y
Lacythebookworm The overalls! Yes! 8y
scripturient Those were so comfy!! Ahh, good old times. :) 8y
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ErickaS_Flyleafunfurled 😂😂 yep! I miss my overalls too! 8y
Heideschrampf Brilliant! 8y
Reviewsbylola I wonder what you two are reading! 8y
scripturient @Reviewsbylola I was definitely reading 'Howl' as I remember buying it before in Harvard Square. My brother's was probably scifi. :) 8y
Reviewsbylola That's amazing that you remember. 8y
scripturient @Reviewsbylola Once you know you can actually kind of see it (slim white volume with black edges). 😃 8y
Megabooks That is a great photo! 8y
mauveandrosysky This is awesome. 8y
Chessa So great! 8y
acg This is such a flashback 8y
MissCarrieLou 😍😍😍😍😍😍 8y
Simona @scripturient I love this photo...as if it's from the movie. 8y
scripturient Thank you all so much! @Simona Hahaha, that's what my husband always says. He claims it looks line Dawson might walk bx any second. 😂 8y
Zelma Ha ha ha, I could see Dawson walking by. You definitely have the Joey Potter vibe going on! 8y
Simona @scripturient YES, EXACTLY ‼️ I agree with your husband 😃 8y
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katedensen
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Happy Birthday, Allen Ginsberg (b. June 3, 1926).

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SamCampbell
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Starting the day off with all my faves.